So in my experiences of late the looks rating has become a total farce. But as I'm told it's all subjective, well if a 60 year old woman with way too much cheap plastic surgery including rock hard tits with thick blue veins can score an 8-10 in looks then subjectivity needs to be banished.
Which brings me to MILFS. The term (I guess in my subjective knowledge) comes from stories about guys in high school or college. When an 19 year old has a buddy with a super hot mom, then she is definitely a MILF, however the friends mom is somewhere between 30-40 years old. By this fact a woman 50-60+ years-old is not the friends mom but in fact his grandmother. So a GILF. If i was in charge you wouldn't be able to mention you saw a MILF if she's 50-70 and so on. But i'm not in charge so I will just have to expect guys with mommy issues will continue to call grannies MILFS
Personally I'm 67 and I'd rate myself a solid 5, I'm in very good shape for my age, skin not to bad, and I may or not been of average looks, so yes a 5. But for 500-700 I don't want to engage with a female version of myself.
One last thng and then I''ll shut up. There is not 1 single sex worker that is a 10 in looks period and objectively. A 10 means you are more beautiful than almost all other women in the world. Three may be a handful of 9's and of course definitely some 8's. But a 6 is probably what a lot of 9 and 10' rated women are really. And a 6 means your hotter than 60% of all women, and that my friend is very beautiful and a 7 is a headturner on her bad days.
So I said it and now I'll crawl back in my hole. Oh and by the way I've overrated looks myself out of guilt and kindness but I wish I didn't. TER is supposed to be a place to get real info about the ladies
I’ve seen more than a handful of MILFs in the last ten years! The ones I have seen have had overall ratings in the high 7’s to low 8’s, with looks in that range as well. Most of the MILFS I have seen I rated 8 on looks, with one 9 and one 7. Are these MILFS an 8 compared to the 23 year old I saw yesterday who I rated a 9? Of course not! Are they an 8 compared to the population of 45 year olds out there? Yes! I think you have to modify your thinking for the age of the provider. Of course I’m 63, and a guy who is 23 will be disappointed with my rating if he sees a milf that I rated 8 on looks. Let’s face it most milfs have put on a few pounds in the midsection! I have given a few MILFS 8 for looks when the rear view is more like a 7! My solution- focus on the front side! The one I rated 9 kept herself up really well with a slender midsection and sexy toned body!
Men actually rate women on a normal bell curve scale, which means men are pretty objective in reality, compared to what they might say about someone out of politeness.
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Women on the other hand are savage. The "average" male in their eyes rates about a 2 to 3. Now I know we guys here on TER are from Lake Wobegon and all are above average, but otherwise our typical rating would be 3 as well (except me, I'm ugly.)
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Well it would be a waste of time to argue a point on this subject because everything is so subjective. I've lived in 2 cities NY and LA so if I go to Erewhon (a very upscale Whole foods) there are lots of 8's and 9's I mean gorgeous sexy women that have on very very revealing clothes, especially the yogo pants with NO UNDERWEAR, camel toe city and a bra top.
These women, well maybe for $1500 and up, don't exist in the sex workers milieu.
But I have got suckered enough times by seeing a 8-10 looks girl that turned out to be a 2 or 3 and so I was just fantasizing that there was reality in the looks rating, but alas not gonna happen.
Although I do think looks ratings should have some rules like performance. 8-10 performance has to match the services rendered.
But on this sight Melissa McCarthy and Cardi B can get 10's.
So be it.
is that men will make cutting remarks to other men, but it's just locker-room jive and they don't really mean it. Women always say sweet things to other women, and they don't mean it, either. Your chart kind of bears this out, too.
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I’m curious Mr L what the hell your comment has to do with the subject I posted. Of course you are a perfect example of either fake reviews (probably) or extremely inflated scores for looks (definitely).
You’ve seen 400 kgirls and everyone is rated at least an 8 in looks which is absolutely absurd.
So since all the kgirls are crazy about you should advise that being some of the most beautiful women IN THE WORLD 80-100% more beautiful then the regular woman on the planet, that they should be fashion models or movie starlets instead of getting on their knees to please thousands of strangers. No?
I think k-girls are all groomed from the same stock so consistent ratings would be unsurprising.
In other words, Fester thinks they are bred to be hookers and groomed from birth to be sex-bots?
Not racist at all, Fester. Nope!
same confusion about my review scoring as a lot of others have in the past. The system I use is absolutely accurate and there is no deviation in the baseline over time or from girl to girl. You should print it from the link below so you can refer to it when you are not sure how to score a review in the future.
First, do you see the irony in calling me out for rating MOST Kgirls an 8 when your average appearance score for Kgirls is 8.29. Is that ALSO "absolutely absurd?" In fact, your average score for all of the providers you have seen is over 8. I have several Kgirls that are below 8 for either looks or service, but maybe you didn't look hard enough. My overall average may be higher than yours because I do a better job of vetting the girls I'm thinking of seeing, and that keeps my disappointment average very low compared to a lot of guys here. (Rocket once said he is at 50% disappointment).
The other thing you should consider is that looks are highly subjective, whereas most reviewers can be more objective about good service versus bad. Some guys like chubby women, and others, like you and me, like them slender. In fact, when you did choose a rather robust woman, you gave her a low score for looks, which makes me wonder why you saw her in the first place. She wasn't your type.
Enjoy reading about my scoring system. Its beauty is in its simplicity, accuracy and reliability. This is why hundreds of Kgirl mongers have seen (or not seen) Kgirls based on my in-depth reviews.
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Ok Mr Amazing i have absolutely no interest in yoyr ratings system.
As for my ratings if you actually read my original post you will see that I said that i’m guilty of inflating my ratings which once again make most of your snide comment pointless
I think that 90% of looks ratings of 8-10 are often EXTREMELY inflated, especially coming from a guy that’s a 2 in looks.
I do it out of some guilt or politeness and it’s goes against the whole point of this site.
Although I really appreciate seeing a girl with dozens of 8-10’s plus 2 or 3 seemingly legit mongers giving said girls a 5 or 6 rating.
If we put 90% of the 9/10’s on a stage before an audience most would be laughed off the stage.
That’s my belief and i’m sticking ’ with it.
Oh and can you please rate my grammar, spelling and sentence structure.
Conan The Grammarian is all-knowing. But he has no criticism of your grammatical "skills." At least your comments, while imperfect, are comprehensible. Conan cannot be everywhere, as much as his many fans would like.
inflating scores, and then you say most of my scores, where I rate them as "average" (8 on my scale) are inflated. That would mean you think most providers in general are below average, and yet, you are using the ten point scale, where five is average, so every girl but one that you have seen was above average. I'm sure you don't believe that 96% of the providers you have seen were above average in looks, so you are a shining example of my explanation that most reviewers don't know how to make their review scores accurate or consistent.
Like me, for example... Literally tooting my own horn but here we go lol
When I give out a nine, it's one of a kind girl. I utilize all range and just off my score, you can understand the trends and my preferences as to what I like service wise and looks wise.
If you limit your review ls only to three or two scores, then there's no way to differentiate whatsoever. It leaves no room for nuance either.
Age isn't a huge issue unless it's at the extreme ends. The other possibility is someone marketing themselves as a young provider only ending up to be very old.
especially with, “A 10 means you are more beautiful than almost all other women in the world.”
A 10 on TER’s rating scale, flawed as it is, means “once in a lifetime.” As in the lifetime of the reviewer. Since I’m never going to meet almost all women in the world, let alone have sex with them, I think the 10 is relative to providers I’ve met or am likely to meet. And I can honestly say that I have met one provider who to me was a 10 in looks—but not in performance only because of said flawed rating system.
Yeah well if you thought about you phony metric then a monger that has given dozens of girls a 10’s must mean that said monger must have died a dozen times and reincarnated so he can have another “ONCE in a lifetime” experience
A 10 is in the eyes of the beholder and you are partially blind.
Have a nice day, and yea I admit it Lizzo and her grandma are definitely 10’s
of 10s either.
But it’s not just a 10 that’s in the eyes of the beholder… it’s beauty in general. The sooner you and everyone else who complains about TER appearance scores accepts that, the happier you’ll be.
Pretty old. I'm going GYLF.
I'd do her in a heartbeat.
Nice example.... no label needed. Stunning!!
....just from your P411 picks, I'd say it takes one to know one as you appear just as stunning if not more. And your reviews?!?! Can you come out to Minnesota so we can show you how nice some of us really are? Minnesota Nice is a real thing!
Ok 1 out of 100000000 that changes everything.
Anyone know 70 year old 10/10 that does MFR? The R is for rodent
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Geez ma’am, you seem like you’re having a really bad day based on your posts in this and other threads. Maybe take a couple of Xanax and sleep it off? Or maybe go to an AMP and have a soapy massage? Just something to relieve your stress. Ciao!
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This is one of the most dramatic crash and burns of an OP in a long time. Lol
In a country like the Un-United States of America where conformity is mandatory and any one that does not comply is an outcast and then cancelled.
Your assumption that I’m “ having a bad day” is typical of the brainwashed robots living in the virtual world.
I have a very strong opinion about this subject as well as experiences of walking into the apartment of a supposedly 9 or 10 and finding a burned out wrinkled gnome . That’s when i go home.
My point was simply that looks rating is 90% unreliable especially due to fake reviews in addition to the fact that mongers giving out 9/10 ratings are pretty obably 2’s.
I made a point and i believe i can argue this point as munch as i want. And you too can continue to use trite pithy retorts like telling me I’m troubled for have strong opinions.
I usually stay away from here because this board is just a twitter junior where you are on a team and anyone that doesn’t follow the rules is fucked up and need a massage or a xanax so that can follow the team in lock step.
A 10 is an insanely gorgeous girl and nonexistent among women that suck cock for a living. And as I initially said in my post i too am guilty of inflated ratings to be polite. Which is counter to the point of rating hookers. Yea i used that dirty word hooker, so sorry i meant pleasure sales ladies.
And thanks for your virtual opinion about someone you don’t know.
Have a great day!
Also Mr Regency it’s pretty funny that a guy that books an $80 whore (Caroline) that turns out (what a surprise) to be a useless hag is giving out advice to others .
Come on man it’s time to step up and go upscale and drop at least a hundy.
What’s even funnier this pathetic babe only has one fool that reviewed her…you.
You should look up the elderly lady that posts here occasionally that does $15 car appointments which by the way according to CDL’s ratings rules scires a 9 in looks!!!
Go for it man
Odd that you would attack me given that my review scores support your hypothesis. I've been posting on TER since 2010 under this account, and prior to 2010 under another account. In that time I've given one review with a looks score of 10. Only one. And when I review hags such as Caroline (and plenty of others) I score them appropriately. Given this conduct of attacking your supporters I renew my suggestion that you're having another really bad day and should get some help.
Ok yes i was having a bad day until i read that review and laughed my ass off.
Considering you’d go for that hag i gotta figure your 10 is a 5 in the real world.
Thanks for the laughs.
By the way how much was your 10 $120/hour?
By the way this board isn’t reality and so i could care less what you think of me nor should you care about me.
But i do love busting balls
Thanks for making my day
Love LL
looks are subjective. On my scale a 9 is above-average. You're saying the car-date provider is a 9, which is above average in looks, but I think most guys here would disagree with you. This won't be the first girl you have over-scored in relation to their looks average from other mongers, but you are entitled to find above-average beauty wherever you want. It's your opinion and you're entitled to it. I'm sure she is flattered that you would give her a 9 on my scale.
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a moron you look like when you have to edit a post that is all Z's? Lol
me, and I know you're not^^, the 10 rating is ok.
IMO, just eliminate the "Once in a lifetime" add on.
Or maybe make it once in a lifetime at this moment, 'cause you don't know who you will meet tomorrow!
Take away the bitter attitude and a quick search reveals there are 8 pages of providers over the age of 45 who also have an average appearance score of 9 or higher.
In conclusion, BREAKING NEWS: TER's rating and profile
systems are deeply flawed.
Then again, everybody has a bad day, even 10s.
There are subjective and objective ratings. It has been suggested that TER can increase objectivity and decrease subjectivity by using color charts (complexion), silhouettes (body shapes), and so on. For starters, see:
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/suggestion-and-policy-4/waist-to-hip-ratio-sulhouettes-pantone-color-charts-etc-14295
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/suggestion-and-policy-4/no-no-noooooo-14301
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/suggestion-and-policy-4/re-no-no-noooooo-14309
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/suggestion-and-policy-4/use-images-for-better-ids-15747
Take away the bitter attitude and a quick search reveals there are 8 pages of providers over the age of 45 who also have an average appearance score of 9 or higher.
In conclusion, BREAKING NEWS: TER's rating and profile
systems are deeply flawed.
Then again, everybody has a bad day, even 10s.
I think the old expression is a2 at 10 becomes a 10 at 2.
For consideration to the conversation . I have had a few meetings over the years when on the first meet with the provider she had a immaculate appearance. Perfect hair , nails, clothes and attitude the whole nine yards. On the second or third meeting things were not quite the same. In both cases I did not go back and review the provider at a lower score .
Things like this could explain some rating differences.
Maybe when someone rates a a woman who is 45 and older as a 9, they are really saying they look great for their age.
72+ equals 9, maybe people are saying they always wanted to bang their friends grandmother. Or grandfather in you are into 2 guys and a girl.
Lmao!!! Im into all kinds of fucked up shit.
I rate on an age-adjusted curve
But, chances are if you ran into a highly rated K/C gal on the street in mufti, you wouldn't even notice her.
It's always been a wonder to me, much like the transubstantiation of the host, that a bit of makeup, some lingerie, dim lighting and an itch to scratch, turns a plain, middle aged woman into a roaring object of desire.
I've only had my expectations exceed a couple of times, oddly enough by gals from random ads on Adultlook. Turns out they were visiting the SRBA and needed some quick cash to continue their journey.
They seemed disappointed by the 50+ 'Eurasian' that is Moi, so that tempered the feeling of 'Wow' when the magic door opened.
I consider myself a certified MILF.
First - everyone has the right to rate looks according to their preferences and tastes. Just because you feel that a 20 year old is more attractive than a 40 year old doesn’t mean everyone feels that way. Some men, especially seniors, prefer a more mature look.
Definition of MILF - the idea that the 19 year old college buddy has a 30 year old mom is ridiculous. That would make her 11 years old when she gave birth. If you consider that many women are waiting to start families until after they have pursued an education and started a career it’s more likely that your 19 year old college buddy’s mom is in her late 40s to early 50s. MILF/GILF/whatever - hot is hot at any age.
I find it interesting that some men seem obsessed with youth. If you look at what is commonly considered sexy for men, it’s definitely not the young ones. Look at the following list of top ten sexy men in 2023, only one is under 40:
1. Brad Pitt - 59
2. Chris Hemsworth - 40
3. Leonardo DiCaprio - 48
4. George Clooney - 62
5. Idris Elba - 51
6. Henry Cavill - 40
7. Keanu Reeves - 59
8. Jason Momoa - 44
9. Henry Golding - 36
10. Jared Leto - 51
Of course you are welcome to your opinion, but I can’t help but ask, why do you care if others think older ladies are hot? You clearly prefer younger providers so stick to rating girls in your area of preference and allow others to do the same.
The old rule was that she should be half his age plus seven. I'm 70 so she should be around 42 - 45.
I have no absolute rules regarding who I see but I have to say that in general I prefer women 40+. I've had some amazing times with "older" women.
Yes I admit it my definition of MILFS is completely inaccurate.
However nowhere did i say i like 20 year olds. That’s something you made up, i wonder hoew old you really are?? but there’s a lot of women between 30-45 that are awesome that you completely left out in you comments.
But A LOT of women advertise being 38 but when they open the door they’re closer to 68 No Bueno.
I’m happy for you that according to this site mist men prefer say 50-70 so you must be very busy.
I’m 67 and when a working girl asks for my age and race that’s what i tell them. I wish you gals would do the same. I would guess the majority of women knock off 10 years.
But as i just said according to this post i’m a rarity that goes for those 30-45 yo losers.
Go GILFS!!!
Oh and speaking of youth obsession i wonder how much botox, hair dyes and other ways to try and undo your true you’ve done??
WOMEN ARE OBSESSED WITH YOUTH!!!
Oh I apologize, I jumped to conclusions from reading your rant. I now see you have only reviewed three 20-something providers this summer. Lol. I don’t care what age ranges you like - just saying you shouldn’t impose your preferences on others.
Not too difficult to figure out how old I am - look at my review history over the past years and you will note that I have aged accordingly and consistent with my profile information.
Not sure where you got this idea that I left out the 30-45 age group? That’s just odd. I didn’t even suggest that one group was more attractive, my point was that everyone is entitled to their opinion and you do not get to dictate the scale of attractiveness for all.
I don’t know any girls who are 68 and say they are 38, that’s so ludicrous it’s almost hilarious. Where are you shopping?
Look ma’am all of your arguments are completely invalad.
1. I saw 3 20 year olds this summer.
Truth- 90% of kgirls have fake reviews and photos Mia who I adore is probably 30-35
And you didn’t mention the majority of my reviews are 30’s 40’s so again a specious argument
2. The hottest men in country are all in their 50’s
First of all your list is probably from People magazine or some other rag average read (99% women i’m sure) is probably your age 55-60
And surprisingly (sarcasm) you didn’t mention that Leo dates women still in their teens i think 22 is already too old for him. And why do you ask?? Because he can!
Brad Pitt is currently dating a 32 yo gal.
So again a pointless argument.
3. You don’t know any 68 yo that say they’re 38.
So you know every escort in the world and have met them and can personally vouch for their ages.
Wow you’re amazing.
4. As for your age you point. No I can’t figure out your age and since you did say what it is I’ll assume you’re not in your 40’s and since you want men to share ALL personal info i would need to see a DL and birth certificate to be able to know TRULY how OLLLLDDDD you are.
I was born in 1956
Now what year were you born.
Good luck and I don’t care how many guys like banging older women more power to them but in the real world Leo dates 19 yo and most normal are attracted to younger women.
Fortunately for you they’re lots of fetish guys that want to bang their mommies.
End of debate for me
You have a happy life and i’m done with this topic and TER-Twitter.
35-45 is my preferred age range for both providers and civvie women.
Since it seems we settled on 45 as the borderline age measure what if the woman says shes 38 when its clear shes over 45. For instance there was one woman on another board, (bless her-she was alot of fun), who claimed she was 38 for years and years. Others say they are under 40 but the tire wear tells a different story lol.
I expect women to under-state their age since it's such a common practice. I personally don't agree with it but I have no control. If a woman looks good I have no problem with whatever age she is. In fact, I find it more of a turn on if I know a woman is, say, 50, and is beautiful and has an amazing body. I've seen some women in their 50s who have bodies that any 20 year old would envy.
Considering the obesity epidemic, it's not unusual for 50 year olds to have better bodies than their younger compatriots.
I’ve been in the hobby about 11 years. Married to a former model who still looks good as a GILF. But at my advanced age and financial stage I’m looking for a 8-10 in both looks and performance.
There are two in Atlanta that have fulfilled that desire.
Sophia Soma and Alexis Summer
Unfortunately I have only been able to see these ladies a few times. Wished it was more.
They’re looks and performance easily deserve a 10!
I have a problem w 10's also because to me a ten is the most amazing, incredible, perfect score. During the Olympics (yes I am aging myself) in the late 70's (I was maybe 11yrs old) Nadia and Olga were these gymnasts that scored 10's. I think they both did. And obviously these 10s had nothing to do w looks but the idea of what a ten was was a once in a lifetime thing. These women train 7 or 8 hours a day for pretty much their whole life and maybe got a ten twice. That to me is what a 10 rating of anything means. So really you can't know what your ten was till right before you die, then you can look and decide.
But when people get 10s across the board I don't believe. First noone gets along like that w everyone and two you can't always be giving your best. It just makes me think it's all bullshit. And I can't even ever get a 10 because I don't anal or cim which is another bs thing. I have had guys tell me they tried to give me a 10 and couldn't. Now I don't believe I have been a ten but then again a ten for me may not be what a ten for a middle aged guy whose been w 5 ladies his whole life. Maybe my hohum performance that day is his once in a lifetime. That makes me sad. And not that I give mediocre performances but chemistry matters a lot when you are talking once in a million. So you can give your best all the time but if there's no chemistry I don't think that's a 10.
Sorry too long. Nobody will read and it is actually a pretty brilliant post.