Ok, I am not judging but I am judging (I guess).  I notice that many Hobbyists refer to Providers as

"great person", "very sweet", "nice gal", or some other term(s).  

I have been hobbying for years.  I couldn't tell you if one Provider was nice, sweet, etc.  The only thing I can tell you is if she fucks real good.  Now I realize that guys hobby for different reasons.  But does any guy hobby to make friends?

Now I am not saying that sex is the only thing about the Hobby.  Well let me re-state that SEX IS THE ONLY THING ABOUT THE HOBBY!!!!

What kind of fucking loser would I be to pay $300 an hour for a friend?  Shit I would pay a few of my so called friends AND family $300 to stay the fuck away from me.

When I make an appointment with a Provider I am there for sex (and usually kinky sex).  So when that hotel room door opens up I do the faux hug (Why Providers do this I have no idea but what the fuck I'll play along), drop the envelope, exchange quick pleasantries, then I am ready to fuck.  

I don't need to know her personality, whether she is college educated (HINT: college pussy is no better than GED pussy), or some other vague aspect that has nothing to do with her sexual ability.

Now some Providers (and Hobbyists trying to score some points, -Note: saying bad things about me will not get you a discount or freebie) will read this and say that guy is an asshole.  

But ask yourself this?  If you went to a very expensive salon for a "makeover" that cost $300 would you want the job done right by someone who didn't talk or the job done "ok" by someone who was very friendly?

I have a MUCH better encounter if I like the lady. How is that going to happen if we don't chat some? If one seeks no connection at all, why not just jack off to free porn on line?

Of course some ladies would be happy just chatting for most of the session. I'm not a huge fan of that much gfe!

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If I just wanted to pay for sex, I would pick up streetwalkers.

I'm another one of those guys wo likes to talk and at least have the illusion of some connection in addition to a physical connection.  You, on the other hand, just want sex and only sex.  Your preference doesn't offend me.  

But why does me looking for what gives me personal pleasure bother you?  You are basically saying that me seeking what I like makes me a "fucking loser"  That does not really bother me, because I don't care what you think about me. But it does make me think you're an idiot.

But don't you really understand why that, (among other things - you are a weird dude) might make people attack you?  You just called a whole bunch of people "fucking losers" because you can't seem to cope with them being different fom you. And as an OP with no other point.

Ah, why do I bother?  As you said, you just don't get it.

When I'm on the road I see a lot of "fuck and leave" agency girls. It scratches the itch and that's all I'm looking for.

With my faves at home however it's a different story.  I didn't start seeing them because I was looking for "friends" but in some cases that is simply what develops over time. Believe it or not Ridgetucky it IS possible to get your brains fucked out by a woman that you actually like! I'm not paying for the friendship, I'm paying for the sex.  It's all about boundaries and two people being on the same page. The benefits are both tangible and intangible but definitely not to be underestimated!

You go ahead and do whatever works for you.  The rest of us will do the same...

The truth of the matter is that men see women in this hobby for different reasons.  Some men see women purely for the sex, and others see women for the intimacy, which the sex is just simply part of.  Every guy is different, and that's why sometimes you can see guys just talking about the sex and seeing it as a transaction, and other guys will end up falling for the provider and potentially putting himself at risk with personal life, girlfriend/wife/SO, and job in doing so.

The provider's personality makes a difference to me.  I can't speak for anyone else, but to me that's a big part of why I would repeat with a girl or not repeat with a girl.  The sex is, of course, important, but there's a reason why I would see one girl again and pass on another girl.  For me, all other things being equal, personality is a good thing.

You really shouldn't talk about money and throwing it around, though.  You are a self-admitted Wall Street guy in Ohio (not really the epitome of "big swinging dick"), and you've talked in the past about such nonsense as paying for another hobbyist to bang a provider while you watch.

While it might not be about the personality for you, if you really want an answer...probably best not to antagonize those who you actually want answers from.  For example, if you really wanted to understand why certain guys liked men as sexual partners, it's probably best not to phrase it as:  "Why do you faggots like getting drilled in the ass in the gay bar?"  Probably not the most endearing way to get a response.

But, then again, you never understood that.

Hopefully this is an answer you can use, and you aren't just being the guy living under the bridge that you normally are on this board.

hobbying to make friends and having a good time with the girl because you like her personality.

I don't hobby to make friends per se, but wouldn't refuse friendship should it develop in the course of hobbying. However, I do tend to repeat with those who personality I tend to like.

Is this too hard to grasp tucky?



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The Older I get it probley will be for the friendship.Now I would not see a Lady if there was not some personal connection.Thats just me.

Rest of us want to call providers, friend, mistress, courtesan, secret love, etc., it is our right to do so.

So stop trying to create bullshit drama. Many providers, most of them I have met over the years are: "great person", "very sweet", "nice gal”. Some of them were really Girl Friend Material.

Any other dumb fuck questions.

Fornicate as a matter of pure instinct. Should you ever aspire to a higher branch on the phylogenetic tree, you'll find that some emotional connection can enhance the experience.


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for the majority I don't think these things are planned. If you see a provider a lot, it is only natural some type of bond is going to form with her vs. someone you don't see but once a year.

From your post, it sounds like you only see providers as a hole to fill, and hey...nothing wrong with that. Many providers advertise themselves as "hotel room only" girls, meaning their education, travels, etc. don't mean a damn thing to the guys they see. For other men who don't just put their d*ck in anything, they value the entire package types. Luckily, those women who are seen as more than a blow up doll, can also command a higher rate from men who focus on all things external.

You do what works best for you, and you will attract women who also don't care if they are viewed as cum dumpsters. For the rest of us, I would say don't worry so much about what we do. Us making friends certainly does not affect you, your wallet, or who you see.

You sound a tad grumpy .   That's your choice .  

  I have a tendency to strike up conversations with total strangers in most situations .  Sometimes strangers become friends , for different reasons .
 It happens with providers too .
    We are all wired different .

 When I have my $300 makeovers,  I prefer the friendly magician, who  tells me how great I look , while she's smiling when she's doing me .  lol
 

You actually spewed your nonsense with a reasoned, well thought argument. Your still a jackass, and in this case a total moron (possibly just a troll as well) but you did so with a thread that was at least palatable to read.

My suggestion to you...stop looking at people as to how they affect your commission check. I understand how that little old widow investing the life insurance check, is in and out the door ASAP so you can move on to the 401k rollover waiting for you...but this isn't banking...its fucking. An emotional or intellectual connection enhances the experience...it doesn't diminish it. Try reading some poetry or something. You need to come back down to Earth and join the rest of the human race. We are actually having a good time. You should try it.

As the great JFK once said, "Ask not what your hooker can do for you, but what you can do for your hooker."-True Story. That JFK guy was a hobbyist on TER back when the GD board was done by mail....

I also don't go to the RedSox game just for the baseball. I go for the entire experience, the sights, sounds, smells, taste, and the all around pleasure of the event. If I just wanted to see the game I could watch it on TV.
Same thing with the hobby, what don't you warm up a wet towel and jerk off to whatever it is that you are into, and save yourself some money. Personally I think you are an asshole to treat women that way, but then again those are not the women I am seeing I can GAURANTEE that. Even if a have a particular new fetish or kink, I am going to have conversation with the girl first excuse myself to get changed and at that time the session is on. We are all humans (I assume) and I will never treat a woman without respect. She knows why I am there and I know why she is there. Why be rude about it?
The more I think about your assinine post, I realize at least you are paying the girl and not just raping them. Then again I have a personality that people get along with, I doubt you can even make it to your car without someone calling you an asshole.

if you pay 300 all you get is sex if you pay more you can actually get a more date like  meeting. Not everybody like sex only I prefer a date like meeting

Treat the lady nice, bring some well thought out little gifts, be totally sincere, and you will be rewarded well in most cases. Have a some well thought out departing thoughts when you leave that let her know that you appreciate her as a fellow human being! It should be a no brainer to treat others the way you want to be treated!

the question, no I don't hobby to make friends. But, I have made friends in the hobby.
I like women, and it's even better if I happen to like the woman I am with that night. The experience is much better when both parties can make the business part of the encounter a little less important and concentrate on having a pleasant time. I would bet that the OP hardly ever gets more than he bargained for with providers. Providers are still women and as women, they respond to a man who behaves like a gent and treats her better than the guy before.
It happens infrequently, but making a friend in the hobby is a good thing, and a bonus, as far as I am concerned.

You could just buy one of those rubber Dolls thay don't talk!

Hi Sethic,

ROTFLMFAOPIP!!  I wonder If TER has JFK's review of Marilyn Monroe on Microfiche?

I don't hobby to make friends, but then I don't volunteer to make friends either and I do make friends both hobbying and volunteering. I'll say some of the most wonderful women I've ever met have been hobbying. Yes, I'm there for obvious reasons but during the down time it's nice to have good conversations and that's how friendships start and evolve. The same thing goes for when I volunteer, we have down time and I talk to fellow volunteers and friendships start and evolve. I could site different activities Golf, Softball etc. that I don't do to meet friends but I'm happy to say it happens. One can never have too many friends.

I do not believe anyone should hobby to make friends but I do not think anyone should go to a bar to make friends, or go to a ball game to make friends.  Participating in any activity with the intention of making a friend places unreal expectations on the situation.  People who hobby with the intention of making friends usually are forgetting the other party in a compensated participant in meeting.  The person they are meeting is usually a provider persona and not the actual ladies persona.  

Now with all that being said, as when any two people who get along well a friendship can develop.  I am sure many occur everyday in the hobby.  It all depends on the personality chemistry between the two.  I have met some I would be friends with and some where the connection just wasn't there.  Doesn't mean they were not excellent providers either.  

Each persons expectations are different.

I don't do this to make friends but I would love to be friends with any great lady that I meet who in turn would like to be friends with me. Being friends doesn't mean that you get their merchandise for free.

For me I think the hardest part about this is knowing if the lady really is interested in being your friend, or if it is just an act for a client. As I said I would love to be friends with any great lady I meet who is interested, but I don't for a second want them to pretend to be my friend outside a session.

Honestly a perfect situation for me sounds like it would be very different for you. For me I would have 2-3 ladies local that I love to be with and who like me as a person not just a client. Ladies that were ok with emailing back and forth with me as a real friend and maybe even going to lunch with me or talking on the phone at times about stuff. And then when I had the money/time/desire I would make an appointment with said lady as well for other things. Honestly this is probably the only way I COULD have a hot lady friend as I would like her for who she is but that doesn't mean my baser instincts wouldn't be lusting after her at the same time. This way I could have the friend and the satisfaction. All only if she was ok with that and liked me as a friend and was not pretending to of course.

And for any ladies who may be reading this that I have seen or will see, this is not by any means a requirement of seeing you. Just a nice bonus if it happens. I imagine most ladies want to keep their client relationships professional and I totally respect that. But if you ARE someone I have seen or will see, know that I am being genuine if I express interest in friendship.