Our community is full of decent, kind, great folks.  My hope is new providers will read this and stay around to meet good clients.  (I fully realize providers can write a list for clients on how to receive horrible service.)

It really amazes me how many new providers follow these rules and then wonder why they don't do better.  This sounds rude and unkind, but my honest desire is to help new ladies have better experiences.  

1.  Answer the phone during sessions, especially telling the caller "I'm in a session right now."  Any moron can figure out that if you do this to the guy you're with, you'll do it to me.  
2.  Answer the phone sounding bored and/ or hostile.  
3.  Refuse to return phone calls.
4.  Give a horrible session to the second guy who wants to give you a review.
5.  Have a messy/untidy location.
6.  Charge like an excellent, experienced provider, even when you have no reviews or experience.  
7.  Show up late.
8.  Show no interest in the session.
9.  Deliberately give bad service to a new client and then tell him, "I'll treat you better next visit."
10.  Record a hostile, unprofessional answer on your cell phone.
11.  Give a 15 minute session even when th eclient paid for an hour.
12.  Never read TER.

if any of the above happens thats a sure sign to leave asap. find another provider. there's plenty that will treat you better.

it's important to be courteous and good at what you do. Sometimes ladies might sound irritated when they answer the phone because of getting prank calls all day, or perhaps they're just having a bad day and didn't realize it when they answer the phone that way. We all have bad days. So let's cut some a little slack. However, I agree with you:  The lady should always try to be polite and professional, but that goes the same for clients.

Hugs,
Ciara

13.  Leave a message on the client's home voicemail that says.... "I can't wait to see you @ 1:00 PM honey, we are gonna have such a hot time together!"


I got that one from a visiting provider... guess who immediately cancelled his appointment?!

And providers complain about the client not being discrete!

Really, just like any other business its all about CUSTOMER SERVICE!!!

Just because you have a provider's contact number, doesn't give you the right to call her EVERY NIGHT, to ask about what she is wearing! Sorry, but I don't get paid for phone sex, unless it was mysteriously put on my website somewhere, that I don't know of.  HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. You want to know what I am wearing, make an appt., and I will wear something nice for you

Sorry but I felt like, if we were discussing things that we don't like from one another, I had to chirp in.

Ladies feel free to share more

Good response CiCi;

we all need to remember that we all have "off" days.
The other side of the coin is that guys also need to not be "jerks" when contacting a provider. You are not the only guy she may be dealing with at the moment.
I don't mean to preach, but as I have said before, -
treat each other with respect, be considerate, have a little patience with each other, don't be an arrogant sexist as++ole and you will get much better response.

Just my opinion...
B

Great for the east Coast home of lemmings-  out here in the west almost all people block their numbers, so it's less effective.

I don't think that there are bad hobbyists or bad providers, just ignorant or uninformed individuals who when given a chance to do something right, f**k it up for the rest of us.
Same goes for the once upon a time, nice guy, who is now viewed as a complete jerk over what one girl did to him.
However, I agree with your advice 100%
Common sense is also a major player.

Why should I have to feel discouraged in answering a call, in general? Commonsense would tell any individual that it is my business phone. Business phone means when someone calls me to book an appt. NOT to know what I am wearing. NOT to waste my time, in wanting phone sex. Be considerate of one's time. When someone is looking to make an appt., do just that, NOT be indecisive, but yet-waste someone else's time, with his indecisiveness. Until that person is looking to make an appt., he should not be calling consistantly. No, it's NOT okay for a provider to do this to a gentleman, and it's NOT okay for a gentleman to do this to the provider.

I think you are the victim of your garden variety crank caller, not a real hobbyist.  Two very different agendae (SP?)For the hobbyist- hit it and quit it is a way of life- the crank yanker is just trying to yank your chain.

TRhere might be some overlap among the younger guys- but you know your bread and butter is the older guys.

I wish I had a solution to offer too, must be galling.

He has reviews on the TER board. I have even screened him, and we had talked a couple of times, which was fine. He is located in the west coast, where I am on the east coast-thank god.  But he does consistanly travel to my city all the time. He made it habit of calling me constantly every night. Infact, I have been throwing him into voicemail every night, since last week. He has called me at 2 am in the morning, 10pm at night, and it has not let up. I have told him once already that he should only contact me, when he is ready to meet. But he feels the need to continue this non-sense. Now, I am at a point where I don't want to be rude to him, for I don't need anything false going up, either. So I am hoping by him going into my voicemail he will take the hint. But anyways, I know that some of the women that I have spoken in this business, this same type of episode does continually happen to them by other men. Just something for hobbyists realize that we ladies do have a personal life, and after hours mean we are having that personal life. Be respectful.



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making a appt. with you so tell me why I should.  they can come up with all of them. we have to try to stay one step ahead.

incredibly rude and possibly dangerous for you.  When a person goes to that extent, who knows what he is capable of?

well, if you need him as a client, then you don't want to lose him.  some people are f'd up like that.  maybe he likes hearing those things, so he feels like he needs to call you.  if you tell him to stop, you might lose him since maybe that's like his fetish.  if all his calls go to voicemail, then it's not that bad and he might slow the calls down.  but if you can put up with it for $, then hey why not

Anyone calls me with a blocked number and I don't answer the phone.

At 4:00 am you should return his call! - Several times!

I guess if a hobbyist were to ask me, I'd refer him to my website. I don't want to pressure someone into seeing me.

No offense to the kind gentlemen out there, but NO it's not okay for a provider to make those type of calls. But, it's okay for him to make calls to me, and other providers, just because I fear of losing his business?????? Honestly, I have no plans on meeting him, that is why I keep throwing him into voicemail. If I wanted to meet him, I would have spoken to him, each and every time, that he has called me. Why should this issue be just one-sided? To me, it shouldn't. It's called respecting those around you, and expecting respect, in return. I am just picking a "bone" with how your post came out, but in with you, in general.

It is done quite often as a conversation starter, but it only reminds the client he is fooling around on his SO.

Of course, the fact that you are having sex with him automatically places you outside this rule!

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Give her a 20 minute notice.
Call repeatedly, in a short period of time (leave a message)
Haggle over payment,
No Call, no Show,,grrrrrrrrrrrrr
forget to take a shower the morning of your appt.
Ask her if she excepts check or better yet, barter services.
try to get her to have phone sex with you.
pic collect
ask her "what is *82?"
ask her "why do I need to tell you my name?"
ask for graphic detail of session via phone or email!
providers, wanna add to this? Chime in girls!

True. I have had a few potential clients call me when they were in a bad mood. Not a good first impression, which in this business means alot. I try not to work when I am moody.

What about when guys call and are like 'is Michelle there', 'is Niki there, is (insert name here) there'  And then finally they call back again and say 'Is Sara there'?

You can add that to the list for clients not to do, lol

But seriously, answering a call when with a client is rude.

Unless it's a regular client and you are expecting a really important call and are like out on a dinner date, etc and let him know ahead of time. I have done this when I am expecting an important call (not necessarily work-related) and haven't had any problems. But I keep it short on the phone.

I wish I could remember the other things you mentioned but I am so tired, I need to get off the computer, and I'm too lazy to go back and then post.  

I thought it was a good post and I just wanted to contribute.
Sara

Especially the 20 minute notice part!

Sara

To make our time together more pleasurable:

1.  If you smoke, please pop a mint or a tic-tac or SOMETHING before trying to kiss me.
2.  Don't ever refuse a shower if offered.  Sometimes you think you smell okay, but you don't.  You expect me to be shower fresh and I don't think it is too much to ask that you be too.  
3.  If you do not have my entire fee, do not wait to tell me that when you arrive, let alone after the session.  
4.  If you are going to be late, pick up the phone and call.  
5.  If you are a no show, don't call me in another week and either pretend to be somebody else or hope that I 'forgot'.  Also, it would be nice if you apologize for not showing up when you do call to ask if you can reschedule.
6.  Do not call me after my scheduled hours asking for an appt.  Even if you have the nerve to do so, at least offer to pay extra for my time.
7.  Do not compare the activities spent with another client with our time together (one downfall of the VIP reviews).  Understand that favorites get special treatment same as clients do for their own ATFs.
8.  Do not try negotiate my rate.  I provide great service for that amount and you will find it to be competitive for the local market.
9.  Do not ask me how long I have been a provider, how I got into the business, ask me about other providers or clients, etc.  Makes me very leery of being with you and your reason for asking such things.
10. If there is a service that I do not provide and I have already told you no, please do not ask me again.
11. In reference to #10, do not think that just because you wave an extra hundred in front of me that I will change my mind.
12. If you want an appt with me and you already have my number, CALL ME.  I am not sitting at the computer 24/7 checking email and may not have access to one where I may be at the time, especially if I am on the freeway.  Who knows, I may be in your area and can see you right away if need be.
13.  Be discreet when taking care of the financials.
14.  Since I try to avoid as much neighbor nosiness as possible, please follow arrival instructions (knock quietly, do not park where you are not supposed to, etc.)

Thanks!