Mmmm..a Metrosexual Male (What defines one)

I just read this article online, and I found it pretty interesting I am curious to find out the Male point of view on this, Would you be considered a Metrosexual Male? meowza

Mel

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New Breed of Men: Metrosexuals

Metrosexual: (noun) Of or pertaining to a straight, urban male who is eager to embrace and even show off his feminine side, especially when it comes to expensive haircuts, designer suits, and $40 face cream.

And thanks to a certain type of male celebrity (read: David Beckham, Justin Timberlake, and Ben Affleck), it's now cool for a man to own 43 pairs of Bruno Magli shoes, wear moisturizer, and paint his nails. At least, that's what The New York Times and a handful of papers around the globe say.

The metrosexual guy is not gay. He's "just gay enough," opines the Dublin Daily. He can take real pride in his appearance. He can go shopping with his gal pals and help them mix and match their outfits and accessories. He can stop at the Clinique counter and purchase products--for himself. But unlike years past, he can do all this and still be considered manly. THAT is what the metrosexual revolution is all about.

Here's another way to look at it: When it comes to good grooming, the straight man is catching up to the gay man. Writes Dublin Daily reporter Frances Winston of metrosexuals, "They've embraced all the stereotypical qualities of homosexuality that make them a more groomed and well-rounded individual without 'changing sides.'"

The ultimate metrosexual is soccer hunk David Beckham. Here's a little known fact about this über-athlete: He paints his nails and wears sarongs. He goes to the hair salon to get perfect highlights. What's more, he doesn't care if you know that.

The Dublin Daily outs these famous metrosexuals and says why:

Justin Timberlake

   * He's obsessed with good grooming, especially his hair.
   * He loves his mom and says so.
* He showed his sensitive side by admitting that Britney broke his heart.

Ben Affleck

   * Once committed to a wardrobe of sweatshirts and jeans, he's now one of the best-dressed men in Hollywood. (Thanks to J.Lo.)
* He just landed a lucrative contract to promote L'Oreal male grooming products. When L'Oreal announced the deal, the rep said, "Ben embodies a new generation of men who show their strength in their personality, but are not afraid to care for their appearance."

Who is NOT a metrosexual?

   * Tommy Lee
* Liam Gallagh

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Re:Mmmm..a Metrosexual Male (What defines one)

If you do this shit, you are one gay ass motherfucker.  thats all they is to it.

VonRyan(yours truly)
George Clooney
Denzel Washington
Harrison Ford
James Dean
Sean Connery
Clint Eastwood
Paul Newman
Frank Sinatra
Humphrey Bogart

These guys are what you call real men's men.
No nail polish worn by this group.

I guess I'm just an old fashioned guy.

I am just curious. Please don't beat me up on this..lol Honestly, I found it a fascinating article, and I would love to hear everyone's view point on this Personally, I don't think of it as being less of a man at all (but, what would I know? I don't have a penis in between my legs- the last time I checked, anyways lol). I will be honest and say, that I would be attracted to  a Metrosexual Male, and wouldn't think less of him, as a Man (however you may define that word). I would consider a man who is nicely dressed, gets a manicure-No, I am not talking pink fingernails here lol, facials, a nice kept male Remember: " A The metrosexual guy is not gay. He's "just gay enough," opines the Dublin Daily. He can take real pride in his appearance" Now everytime I have seen Denzel Washington either on the screen or magazine, he is nicely dressed, you can tell he gets facials, and I read somewhere he even got his top part of his teeth "fixed", for they were rather crooked, before he made it big in the pictures. Also, he displays sensitivty in his articles, and some of his pictures (not Training Day). That is what pulls me to him..purrrr

Mel




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Maybe a good analogy would be extremely athletic and muscular women. I don't see them as being any less sexy than extremely feminine women.

Re:Mmmm..a Metrosexual Male (What defines one)

But why would a guy want to be like that.  I would much rather spend the money on my latest love.  The women I see need the money more than I need 42 pairs of shoes.  I have trouble mating socks.  Cant imagine trying to decide which of my 42 shoes I am going to wear.

Hey: Do both! LOL

Buy your 42 pairs of shoes, and impress the ladies with your sense of style at the same time (not to mention spending some of your "sense of style" money on her, as well) lol

Mel

Re:Mmmm..a Metrosexual Male (What defines one)

Thank God for that article and similar ones that have run over the last month!  At last there is recognition for men who take pride in their appearance, style and grooming.

I am a middle-aged man blessed with very good looks, great hair and a fit body.  I am also fortunate enough (and have worked hard at it) to be successful and affluent.  My wife -- whom I married less than a decade ago -- is an attractive and very style-conscious woman.  When we got together, she introduced me to the world of men's fashion, style and grooming.  I used to own two pairs of dress shoes; "casual" meant jeans and a tee shirt; and I got my hair cut at whatever place did it quickest.  Now I have a real and extensive wardrobe, dozens of shoes, and have my hair styled at a "serious" salon.  I also use moisturizer and get manicures.

Guess what, guys?  Women notice me a lot more than they did before I metrosexualized.  I feel more confident and more comfortable about myself than I did before.  My wife and I stand out in a crowd -- not ostentiously, but as a suave, sophisticated couple.  Besides, since I am middle-aged, I need to take extra care to preserve what I've got.

Before the term "metrosexual" was invented, a provider I know said I was "a straight guy with a gay guy's sense of style."  If that's what it is, so be it.  The reality is, it has nothing to do with sexual orientation and everything to do with self-respect and caring for yourself.  

Stereotypes of "manly men" are as unfair and constricting as other stereotypes -- and if there's any message that reading these boards should convey to all, it's that stereotypes just aren't true.

So I'm a metrosexual, and I'm proud.

Beckham - Don't know a damn thing about him, but any man who paints his nails probably swallows.  (JK)

Timberlake - Boy Band, not Man Band.  'Nuff said.

Affleck - Real man?  Ben Affleck is not a REAL anything.

There's nothing wrong with looking your best.  I dress well - for a straight guy.  I keep myself well groomed.  I drive by the gym every day.  I live in a metropolitan area.  I've even been known to cry.  At the end of "Rudy", for instance, and when Troy Aikman retired.  

Facials?  No.  Painted fingernails?  Please.  Sarongs?  What the hell is a sarong?  If these are the men of the future, I'm glad I don't live in the future.  Superficial vanity and pretentious pride aren't qualities I strive to attain.  Rudy.  There's a real man.  

In closing, let me say, "RUU-DY!  RUU-DY!  RUU-DY!  RUU-DY!" *Sniff*  I think I'm gonna cry.

Meowza, Turkana!

You classy male you..purrrr

Mel

I remember reading somewhere that the Spartan ambassadors to Egypt were scandalized by the fact Egyptian men used makeup, wore perfume, and otherwise behaved in what the Spartans felt to be feminine ways.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Lets run down this list, shall we?

David Beckham: I am not familiar with him. But, I will admit if he came to me with nail colors that I wear, I wouldn't give him the time of day.

Justin Timberlake: He is a cutie. I also admire the fact that he can admit to a broken heart, and love his momma

Ben Affleck: If he came by my place for a cuppa sugar, he would be getting more than that lol

Mel

I was wearing Armanti at the time (color coordinated and geopolitically correct), with exquisitely manicured nails, coiffured to the nines, and just a dash of Givenchi cologne.  

The depth of Bambi's suffering and loss was just....was just.... (sniffle!)  

I'm sorry, I am too choked up to continue this post! Damn this streak of sensitivity and style to my personality! (opportunistically intrusive and yet hopefully quite sexy in a disarmingly and refreshingly sincere way that will facilitate my sex life!)

Join the club.  Next? lol

Mel

No.  I'm just saying that at 55 I'm probably what you would consider a more traditional man.  

I don't use "designer" cosmetics.  Or any cosmetics for that matter. Regular name brand shampoos, etc. are fine in my book.  The one time I did have a facial (on a cruise with my late wife), I had some allergic reaction to whatever was in that stuff and swore never to do it again.

I would never paint my nails, although I do keep them trimmed and scrupulously clean.

I believe that I dress well.  I will buy designer label clothes if I like the way they look on me.

I don't think I'm a Metrosexual.  Does that make me any less of a man?

BTW, I have cried over many things in life.  Most of them, INHO, deserved crying over, male or female.

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"The only thing that is new is the history we haven't learned"
                                                Harry S. Truman

was for men not to feel that they are less of a man for being a "Metrosexual". Are you less of a man, for not being a "Metrosexual" NOPE. That was not the point that I was trying to make

Mel

This is a nice thread.  Light hearted, non threateneing and fun.  We should have more of these.  I didn't take it as being "less of a man", but just felt like adding my .02.

Enjoyable post, Mel

About the time I start "painting my nails" and worrying about the level of moisture in my skin is the same time that I will be too old for the hobby because I have gone totally feeble.

Look folks, the fact is that a man can dress well, smell nice, be able to keep a clean house, cook well and have an interest in more than sports (like literature, theatre, movies, travel, etc.) and be a normal male at the same time.

In the past, these type of men were referred to as being well raised by their parents.  Men with intellectual abilities were also referred to being well educated.  I would like to think that being well raised and well educated does not necessary equate with being gay.

My business partner happens to be gay and is about as masculine as they come.  The only difference between us is our preference for a sexual partner.  We are both well raised and well educated.  He and I share a passion for business and we both happen to enjoy taking our companions to similar events.  

Neither one of us can see participating in the other's sexual preferences, but as males we have lots in common.  The point here is that he doesn't obsess on his grooming, "paint-his-nails" or have an over-riding desire to arrange flowers.

Just as there are all types of straight males, there are also all types of gay males.  Not every straight male is an over-bearing macho red-neck just as every gay male is not a sissyfied fem speaking with a lisp.  Yes, there are assholes in both these categories, but for the most part straight and gay males appear, act and react the same in most matters of life.

Accusing someone of being "gay" is like accusing them of having brown hair.  So what?!  We need to get past this point in our evolution and get on with life.  The principle problem here is that the straight community has yet to get over the "ick" factor when considering the gay preference.  Look boys and girls, when it comes to "ick" factors, I can tell you there are plenty of other things that I find more repulsive than the thought of being gay.  Besides, how many of your fine gentlemen have ever considered oral and anal sex?  The only thing separating you from the gay equation is the sex of the individual you are doing those activities with.  Straights prefer women, while gays prefer men.  The acts are identical!  The motivations are identical! The outcomes are identical!  There is very little that separates gay and straight men on this count.  

One last thing, straight men have it one better than gay men in that the straight's sexual partner can offer one other sexual treat that a gay man can't, vaginal intercourse.  If anything, straight sex is richer in experiences for that fact alone.

We all have our private prejudices. If Truman didn't let his get in the way of performing his duties, who cares, except the damn race shakedown industry?

It was over 40 years ago, and my mother still remembers dragging me out of the movie theater because I was was crying at the top of my little lungs!

Good post loarthan and I agree with most of what you said.
I think appearance is important but have no need for $40.00 face cream, nail polish or 42 pairs of shoes.

I can accept gay people for who they are but some how I still believe that sex between two men is unnatural. The rectum is not designed for sex and I do not understand how pleasure can be derived from this particular sex act (the recipient). Each to his/her own though.

Anyway, I thought that these sites were amusing.  

http://www.top-greetings.com/G.py?P=/art/447/
http://www.top-greetings.com/G.py?P=/art/469/

If you missed more than half on the two tests above try this last one.

http://www.hekkuli.org/~hekkuli/flash/gaytest.swf

Re:Mmmm..a Metrosexual Male (What defines one)

I'm happy to say that I'm NOT a metrosexual man.

I'm just an ordianry guy:

I don't wear expensive clothes, because they don't make me feel BETTER about myself than I already do.  I never get my shoes shined.  I get 'em at Payless and throw them away when they get dirty.   Same goes for cars and manicures and all that other stuff.

I've seen what's out there in the world of available men.  I have a job, all my own teeth, most of my own hair and I bathe regularly.   In other words ... I'm a 'real catch'

I loved my Mom ... sad for anyone that didn't love there's.

MY favorite movie is Casablanca, because in the end, he did the right and honorable thing ... not what he personally wanted.

I thought Bambi was a stupid name for a male deer and wondered if the other deer made fun of him behind his back - seems that it's the same as a man being named Percy.

Didn't really care that much about Old Yeller ... but I get choked up when I hear the song El Paso and the guy died fro the women he loved.

Having said THAT .... I'm noy just a guy ... I'm a PIG!

I tell a woman that OF COURSE I expect to have sex on the first date ... how else would I know if I want a second date?

I know I'm a great lover, because when I'm done, I'm always satisfied!

I suggest to her that she should take care of her own orgasm before I get there, so when I arrive, we can both concentrate on mine.

I tell her that sometimes, yelling 'BRACE YOURSELF' really IS foreplay.

I tell her that she's in my life as a stress REDUCER, not a stress producer.

I tell her to let go of my ears ... because I know what I'm doing.

Re:Meowza, Turkana!

I guess rugged good looking men will be going the way of the dinosaur. Certainly rule me out of the metro look . Hairy chest, thin muscular build and I wouldn't be caught dead with painted nails! My god, what the hell is happening in this country? I pity my poor teenage sons who be living in a world full of vain silly men and the woman who find this attractive. Please don't call this good grooming. Good grooming is being clean, trimming the body hair, keeping your nails short and filed(not painting them)etc. Thank God there are still woman out there who still do appreciate a real man. By the way woman still look at this middle age guy and smile and I haven't even had my facial done yet!

Lets back up a bit, darlingcakes

First and foremost: I love men. Period. I love the rugged look to a "polished, neatly kept man", and  I did find this subject very fascinating. Remember, I pointed out that it doesn't make him less of a male.  I am attracted to a variety of men. Men who are construction workers, UPS men, to men in the board room. "Metrosexual" does not equate itself to being homosexual( to each their own). So, lets clear that up, shall we. Again, IT DOESN'T MAKE YOU ANY LESS OF A MAN, EITHER WAY, FOR OR AGAINST. Btw, men with painted nails, would not turn me, either. But, I do love a manicured (just nicely a trimmed, buffed look) hand

Mel

Re:Lets back up a bit, darlingcakes

Does this mean you would actually consider a date with me?

Let me clarify this. You have always appealed to me... and you are closer than you think. I'm told I have sexy hands too.

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I would be highly honored, Sir

My contact information can be obtained on my website below I look forward to hearing from you.

Sincerely,

Melinda





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and neither would I lol


Mel

Re:Mmmm..a Metrosexual Male (What defines one)

They may not be gay but they'd better not be metrosexualized if they have to do time in the joint.  They might end up like those guys David Alan Coe sings about in Anita Bryant.

Re:Mmmm..a Metrosexual Male (What defines one)

They may not be gay but they'd better not be metrosexualized if they have to do time in the joint.  They might end up like those guys David Alan Coe sings about in Anita Bryant.

A well dressed, well groomed man, with good posture and a confident, but slightly shy smile sure gets my attention! I like a man who takes good care of himself.
Every man I've ever known in my personal life spends way more time in the bathroom/vanity area than I ever do - and that included when my hair was long! LOL!
But, while I do like a man who can dress well, I also like seeing a man like in that Pepsi (?) commercial where they all run to the window to see this guy in jeans, shirt off, drinking a Pepsi! And I still say that in the movie "Medicine Man", the sexy rugged Sean Connery in that movie would have me giving up life in the city to live with him in the jungle - in a heartbeat!
I like a man who's comfortable in jeans, looking under the hood of a car, and yet can put on a Tux naturally, too. I want to dress them up, as well as undress them! LOL It's being 'all things' that I think is sexy! My ex husband and my FB both have told me that they never know what kind of woman they are getting tonight as I'm hardly the same twice! I choose to take that as a compliment and not that they were saying I'm schizophrenic! LOL!
Now, painting the nails..sarongs..just turned me the heck off..

Thanks, Sedona!

It's also good to get another woman's perspective on this, as well


Mel