I've noticed that many providers either work out of LI exclusively or more often than NYC, and I was wondering why.

Is it a matter of higher hotel rates in the city, with too little business to be worth it?

Or is it a clientele issue?  In LI, I suppose there is the greater possibility of having homeowners as clients who might be able to afford multiple hours.

Or something else entirely?

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$60 parking per day,  $7 coffee, and $20 burgers--- you get the picture.  LI, and NJ are a bargain by comparison, and they aren't exactly cheap either.










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In the midtown hotels I stay in it's around $900 per night. No wonder I get a little grumpy when folks cancel on me ... -e

This is a silly statement. If you think people who live in Manhattan don't have money, you're absolutely wrong.

"In LI, I suppose there is the greater possibility of having homeowners as clients who might be able to afford multiple hours."

I could be wrong, that's why I wrote it as a question.

If you're paying $700 for a hotel, you need a new travel agent, sweety.  And $20 for a hamburger?  Not sure which McDonald's you were eating at.

And then you get the crappiest room they have, trust me. Travel as much as I do and you soon learn to book directly through the hotel as a member to get points, air miles and room upgrades. And I didn't say I spend $20 on a hamburger. I'm more of a street vender kind of gal. We don't have those in the PNW so it's still a novelty for me. -e

Which is why my midtown rates are increasing, and also why I get grumpy when folks cancel on me. -e

At the a pretty good hotel in NYC from January 7th thru 11th, for two adults.  At most, the Executive Room was $259 for two of those nights.  It's a far cry from $700-$900/night and these are pretty nice rooms.

For security reasons I didn't name the hotel, but if you PM me, I'll tell you.  Trust me this is no fleabag hotel by any means.


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I do enjoy empirical data collection. PM forthcoming. -e

Try to book arriving on the 10th (Monday) and leaving on the 14th (Friday), I bet the rates are way higher than 259.00!

The 7th is a Friday, when guys are leaving the city for the weekend or, the ones who commutes to the city for work, are going home = no much business.

The 8th & 9th are Saturday and Sunday = no business at all.

The 10th is Monday = when guys get back to work but do not book until they get to their offices and check their schedules for the week.

The only good day is the 11th, Tuesday, when (by your reservations) the lady has to check out at 11 am.

To do good in NYC, the important thing about hotels is location, location, location!

Also, some of these hotels have the kind of security a provider do not want to deal with. Some of these places are in our blacklists because of elevator keys or how they control activity on the guest rooms.

Lots of things need to be considered when booking a hotel, is NOT that simple.

It is a Monday through Friday!  PM me, I'll tell you the hotel, and you can see for yourself.

I would like to know what you find when you get there. Feel free to PM about it. By my experience, I really think Orbitz is overrated.

you can get rooms at many of the finest hotels during the week for $300-$400.  This isn't a guess, it's a fact.

Back up your fact with substance, buddy. And the Comfort Suites in Queens doesn't count. -e

In Manhattan you have got to go with the Waldolf Astoria or Trump Tower.

It doesn't matter to me what people or Rosie O'Donell say about Donald Trump, he's a smart business man.

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Booking in advance is part of the reason I get reasonable prices...I also do a LOT of research, as there are a LOT of options in NYC.

900 a night??  Never for me...it's not cost effective...

xoM

And get quality, suite accomodations, never spending more then around $550 (although with taxes and such, it's probably 6 when all is said and done...).  That is "high" season prices...I usually am able to get what I want for around $400.

You just have to do research...which I realize some people don't have the time to do, and then they pay more...

xoM

I did the same test from June 16th to 20th at that same hotel and got maximum rates closer to the $700/night mark, so we have to take seasonal variations into account.

This is only one hotel that I know about.  Providers who do work in the city must know others that are high quality and affordable.  Hopefully they will share that info with others who ask them about it.

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But I seldom pay more than $400-$500 for a room in Manhattan and I travel there for business four to six times a year. I book in advance. Orbitz, Price Line and all of those other on-line services are crap shoots. I've gotten great deals on great rooms and also had to settle for average rates in average rooms. It always depends on availability which, in NYC, is always pretty limited during the week.  If your not careful with Price Line you can wind up in a room the size of a shoe box for $300. OK for sleeping but not for seeing clients...

It appears that you already do.  I've always stayed in midtown hotels.  Always stayed in great hotels.  Always paid less than $400 except for a couple occassions.  Wouldn't be caught dead in a Comfort Inn.  Next time you're traveling to NY I'll have my assistant book your hotel since she is obviously much better than your assistant.

I don't book orbits and I find great bargins in the city and in LI.

So what is your definition of a "great hotel", and does the overall quality of your room impact the business you are conducting in NYC? Next time I travel to NYC, I wouldn't dream of bothering your assistant - it appears she already has her hands full. I pity the poor person. Please give her my condolences. -e

How can you possibly justify touring in NYC? At the rates you charge and the expenses you claim, How can you even break even, much less make a profit?

But you are entirely correct. Why would I do that? When I first started escorting I had never seen NYC before, so breaking even was acceptable. Not anymore, however. Hence, no future NYC tours planned. -e

but it would seem that regardless of whether the room was $500 or $900 a night, that any room rate that was significantly higher than the price that the provider charged per session would make it difficult if not impossible to justify the trip.

You're giving me a headache. You really are. Sounds like you're basing this on the assumption that a provider sees only one client per day. I'm finding myself developing a hard on for you.

Don't flatter yourself - that's not a compliment. -e

Or at least I was. My point was,there are only so many clients that you can see in a day(that number is obviously more than one) and if it takes you three or four appointments just to get to the break even point, your chances of actually making the trip worthwhile from a financial perspective, are virtually nil.

Take an aspirin, your headache will be fine. I also live in the real world, not fantasy land.