I can't remember a thread in recent history that asked this.

We all know it happens, and as I said it wasnt' even MY question. I borrowed it from a thread on the Atlanta board where a VERY highly reviewed provider asked this  very same question. I thought it deserved a broader audience so I posted it here.

If you have no thoughts on the actual question, fine, but you have a habit of skimming and not reading so it's no wonder you didn't get what the actual question was.

How does a woman feel, knowing that the guy about to knock on her door is expecting someone ten years younger and twenty pounds lighter? Does she feel any shame that she has let herself go and needs to lie to get a guy to call her? or does she just get so jaded to the process that she just doesn't give a fuck anymore?

If everyman were to suddenly grow a spine and stop tacitly approving of this practice by not turning around and walking right out the door, these B&S women would be out of business overnight, but we all know that is not going to happen.

I've lost track of how many reviews start out with "she was not the hottie in the picture, but I was already there so........"

I hate to agree with you that "it really must not matter that much" but I would think that the truly hot women whose REAL pictures have to compete with the photo shopped ones would be the ones the most upset about this as they are the ones with the most to lose.

To shave 10 years and 20 pounds, they're not relying on repeat business anyway (or they are hoping performance brings 'em back).  The money outweighs whatever shame.

and I am with you, I won't hesitate for a second in turning right around and leaving without saying a single word except for maybe something along the lines of "no fucking way!!!" lol

A few pounds 5at most is normal.  

I shared my thoughts on this same topic probably a few days ago.

If the goal is to get you to purchase, the short term is the thing that matters the most.

perspective on it.

But I used to hear about girls getting walked out on at the agency I used to work for, and there were several times I didn't recognize women in person who showed their face, so I understand what you mean. But who is it that lets them keep getting away with it?

A public board.  At least not without an alias.

I don't understand how anyone could possibly think that word wouldn't get out that their photos are edited to that extreme.  

Yeah, it happens A LOT. You are doing things right, and will benefit for it.

I've seen many providers who post say 4 or 5 pics to start off that make them look smaller or taller than they really are and then BAM... they add pics that show their entire body and there is no way in hell they weigh what they claim to weigh, so the reviews they bitched about were in fact true all along. I am talking some that look like a totally different girl, it was that bad. Adding 3 inches to your height is also the same thing as taking off lbs... you still look bigger than your photos suggest when you do that. Heels don't make your gut any smaller lol.  

just do a search for "Are photos real: NO".  

I just walk out if it's far too different from photos. Quick and simple.

A few pounds here and there I'll probably stay. I've walked out maybe less than 5 times over the years so it's not something I like doing. I prefer to see someone like the photos,  stick around,  and have a good time. Also depends on what her price is and how horny I am at that time.

Seems to me one needs more than a spine to fight the repercussions when the girl decides to make up stories after guy walks out.  

Review afterwards not realizing that its their fault ...taking pictures to feel sexy is one thing pretending to be someone else is another ...and many fat women would be better off exercising rather than calling Aldo caused the fat is still there ...its ridiculous ..

They run away from it !  

I don't expect any business owner to actually care what (I the customer) actually thinks about their business. Even this business... Fuck you pay me, is what I hear most hourly employees say when OnTC.

I'm taller than average, but photos don't show that at all. It's all about context/comparison... I appear as more statuesque in person, but that's not always apparent in photos (unless I stand next to someone short, lol). Likewise, I've met some woman in person, who were very petite, who I'd pictured as being much taller than they actually were. I think we kind of tend to assume average height from photos.  

When I view your photos, the touched images are what draw me in. Then I get a little disappointed when I'm reminded of your body art. I'm not sure why? I like tats. Even though you are honest, and upfront from the begging, I feel somewhat deceived as your photos, contradict your honest words.

Providers or agencies that use fake Photoshopped pics know most guys are like me, we are going to pay them and somehow figure out how to get through the session.  

"Hiding shape" as you say, that can be achieved by twisting, the very first professional shoot I had proved this, they are not the most "natural" pictures if you leave it to the photographer to just tell you what to do. For those women who do that, there's nothing wrong with putting your best self forward, lighting, makeup, what have you.

Didn't some "innocent" woman feel some heat, for that agencies poor business practices.

airbrushing vs using real photos and the pros and cons to it. Don't blame it on my skimming LOL while I admit I do at times, I still read the OP question and then go from there. This is a semblance to something already discussed and recently on this board. I can find it if you'd like but I don't have the time. Perhaps you were out to lunch that day with a tica consuming heavy alcohol. Don't know LOL. I believe CPA was in on the convo though and a few other regulars here.  

No customer cares what a provider wished she looked like. Only what she currently looks like.

I never went to a M&G to meet mongers.  But in LA where donations seem always be climbing, nothing like seeing someone in person, before you stuff an envelop.  
 

And it's been around as long as this business, and that's a mighty long time.

We all have what we have, it's how we market the goods that works for each individual woman here that matters and no reason to get jealous. That word has no play at least in my eyes. The truth will come back to haunt your ass the minute you open the door. Proof is in the pudding right there.

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It's difficult or next to impossible to photoshop a video unless one hires some expensive Hollywood service.  I found that I usually get the same girl in the videos as long as it's within a few years of production.  

to give the 'stats' of us to go with the photos if we choose to not duplicate and furnish those stats on our own websites. Photos depicting us are one thing while real stats, if guys can visualize that, are something else. As long as both are true, nothing else matters. I appear very tall and I am barely 5'2 on a good day but I have legs that go on forever and with heels, 'appear' to go on even further. But still, I'm just a lil peanut and will look like a peanut standing up against a gentleman who is 6'2 with my heels on.  

I can see bending, posing, etc. but that's now what I am talking about. I am flat out talking about only taking photos in parts... i.e. an ass, legs, boobs, etc. and never showing a full body shot from at least neck to toes. Putting a pillow over your gut is also hiding it. Providers often do that so guys can't come back and say they did not look like their pics, because all she has to say is "Well, I never stood up in my photos so you could not tell."  

What were you a victim of, deception?  

I charge $400 an hour, and I am still upset by the stories I hear and the things I see with my own two eyes from other girls even in this price bracket and beyond.  

besides exposing yourself as the morally bankrupt person you truly are, you made me look good by comparison in the eyes of BCG.

BTW you give pigs a bad name, as BCG the name change has done nothing to change the revulsion that most of us feel just seeing your name on a post. You can change your name a thousand times, but unless you change your attitude you'll still be a pariah around here.

P411, Eros, my site. Along with the 'tall' tagline. Some guys just don't read any of that. Or, they see my pics and don't think I 'look' tall. Again, because to see height in a photo, it needs to be comparative...I'd need to stand next to the equivalent of Shawn Johnson. Then they'd be like, "Ohhhh, she's really tall!"

Are you referring to

Didn't you see where I plainly said this wasn't about the photo shopping itself, but about the mindset of the women that do it???

Sheesh, and you wonder why people call you BSC

Reminds me of when my G-ma use to see a burger on tv and then go to the drive thru and ask for the burger on the commercial... Of course, the burger in the bag had a smashed bun and wilted lettuce! LOL!

I have neither problem nor compunction in 'walking away'. I loath false advertising of any sort, and I will not allow myself too fall easy or willing victim of it

most cases, but it's not our fault if they don't take the time to read what we write including viewing the stats. They are provided there for a reason LOL. I don't think P411 set up their profile page as it is currently designed if they didn't think it was important for impending clients to view our info as it states.  

sometimes his posts look like he is just stringing random words together, other times it's more like he is just randomly hitting keys on his keyboard, hoping against hope that something intelligent will result.

Well when you start posting half naked photos of yourself that include marks that could identify you to your parents, friends, and brothers, then we can talk.  

My eyes tell me this... My mind tells my that

No matter how BSC that opinion is.

It's hilarious to me that he keeps coming back, though. You know you're a twat when the mongers AND the feminists all collectively hate you.

Never in a million years did I think I'd end up liking GaG, but Vern changed all of that.  

But you have to realize, some peeps are photogenic & some are not.. Photographs are deceiving even if it has been Photoshopped or not.  You need to have some kind of realization that the person you are visiting isn't going to look EXACTLY like the pic.  

Unlike this big vern guy who's constantly trying to troll.  Actually he's not trolling,  he means what he says which is the freaky part.  This is all assuming any of his random words come out to be coherent.  Sometimes it does get put together to form a sentence that sounds a bit coherent, by sheer dumb luck. lol

There may well be "no reason for women to get jealous," but they certainly do and it's a big reason for some of the BSC behavior.  Surely you're not suggesting women don't get jealous?
(and don't you dare say, "Please don't call me Shirley."

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and I will withhold comment as to not appear "mean" Sorry.

I don't have photoshop'd pics!

But I just got say damn that was hot!!!!  Spot on with you're observations, a lot of guys will put up with some BS just because she's hot or cheap. Screw that kudos to you for sticking to you're guns and putting pride in you're "work". I feel the same way in my line of work sometimes no customer loyality anymore. Had a guy last month let a competitor install a new heating system because he was 600.00 cheaper than me, never mind the fact I was selling a name brand top 3 national brand unit and the other guy was pushing builders grade junk. And of course he forgets how I came out on a Saturday night when it was 10 degrees and got the old crap running and didn't even charge overtime rate like anyone else would. Was a good customer and I took care of him, obviously he didn't return the favor

Which us why my pics are accurate

I do partial face blur and no would never send a face pic to a potential (possibly BS) client. I do not an would not post a full on face pic of myself in this realm. Not something I am willing to put out there, seeing as I live and have lots of family and friends in my area. The internet has no delete button, and if it's out there, it out there for good. Not willing to let my church, my kid's school, my career/ colleagues, or community know what goes on in my private intimate life. I DO try and attend M&G events, everyone there has a similar interest and has been screened, so we are all kinda there under the same secret. Same goes when I attend swing events. If that's too deceptive, and a deal breaker, so be it, but my true identity is kinda my business... Sorry, the guys can go elsewhere! I'm not the one. Darnit! LOL!  

I certainly am not one of them and never understood that behavior which is why I keep my 'women' friends to a minimum. I'm a 'guys gal' all the way.  

simply tell the 'essence' of the woman they are meeting from her photos the minute she walks thru the door. And in a heartbeat if those photos were accurate to begin with, no matter what is missing. I've personally never had anyone 'question' that point and they can usually see me coming from a mile a way LOL. My hair and legs personally give me away immediately.  

pick me up with one arm with ease practically....and ok, that was HOTT LOL.

I wouldn't read too much into that.


Truth be told, virtually every woman listed her as "baby fat" I would consider at least "chubby" as long as you show up "as advertised" it doesn't matter whether you are skinny, average, baby fat, or outright "heavy" If you show up looking like your pics the guy has zero basis to bitch.

The definition of twat is thinking; 1: You think some posters are influencial enough to dictate who/whom should be permited to post. 2: You think your opinion matters.

Get off you fucking high horse

Hell no. He's just going to have to trust (based on my reviews) that I don't have a fucked up mug.  

Do you know what a blithering idiot is? You're begining to blither.

That's what this site is for.   We don't need to know the reviewer in order to trust what he writes.  

Since that thread came down due to "advertising Aldo spex"  LOL

To me, Tobi didn't have as many tats as her disclaimers made me think she would. They look really good on her.

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but as for being "mean" I try not to call out anybody for their appearance, and I have never done that to you. I have simply called you old, but without commenting on any specific picture to criticize your appearance, to do that IMO would be "mean" and since I have already crossed that line once this week, and profusely apologized for doing so almost immediately after the words had come off of my keyboard, I don't intend on doing it again soon.

This leaves me two options, well actually three. I could 1) ignore your question completely 2) Tell you some lie about how hot I find you. or 3) simply refuse to comment.

I chose number three, it seemed like the lesser of the evils.

but I thank you if it is nothing but yet another "mean" comment directed towards/about me...as if that's a shock LOL. Only god knows what it could be....one can only imagine what goodness could be at this point.  
Unfortunately, I will have to yet again RETRACT the 'dedication' to you. Even though it was meant to be a joke.

While us guys are losers in this whole photo shopping, bad service/high price, lousy attitude yet high reviews scenario. IMO ladies like you who truly give a shit are the biggest losers in this.

For us guys, this is literally a hobby, even though I hate the term hobbyist, but for you ladies it's your livelihood. I think it's a travesty that deception and manipulation are rewarded at the expense of those who put out a full effort.

and the guys are every bit as guilty for tacitly helping to facilitate this type of behavior as the ROBs that practice it.

It was fun..but some gals seemed to take offense to it as well.  I can't imagine why.

And used your real name as your porn name, I am not surprised you ask this, and this is the only response I can dignify it with.

Please don't start obsessing over this delusion of yours again, I have never said that anyone should or shouldn't be allowed to post. I don't know where you come up with this shit, but if you want to defend a rapist sympathizer, you go right on ahead. We all know how much you loathe women. No one gives a shit, but knock yourself out, dude.  

marbles, perhaps only a few. But with the gents knocking on my door as of late, the marbles should be back in place in no time...thank goodness. And with spring in the air (almost) Life is Good.  

...and even in Vegas out of towners can check the board for reviews and find reviewers they trust as over time they find they have seen the same ladies, said the same things and pretty much agree with you in regard to those ladies. You have to cross reference. Takes some research. That makes you trust them on ladies they have seen that you're considering seeing. That doesn't matter where you are. It does take time.

...I can say the photos are accurate if her body looks like the photos. Photoshop changes belly, legs, butt, weight, wrinkles, etc.. Blur only keeps face from being recognized.  

Which I'm not stupid enough to do.  

woman to a car.

or a hallucinating. Show me any thread where I professed support for the raping of any human being.

Excuse me, rather than doing porn, you PERFORMED AND ADVERTISED ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES under your real name.

Good God Robbin...you haven't made $ 3M in your lifetime...that's fucking hilarious  LOL

Word, girl!

Tobi, you're wonderful.

Post Title - Lingerie tummy covers to hide the gut aren't dishonest, they just aren't showing everything.  The viewer fills in what he thinks is there and is wrong - his bad.  Photoshopping the belly and showing the smaller belly - your bad.

That's NOT even a taxable event dear....nice try on the garbage story.

Not everyone considers a provider a piece of meat with a few holes, Robbin.  There are some who like to get to know the woman behind the persona.  Go ahead, call me a mangina, I don't give a crap.  I'd much rather know that woman on the other end, it's the brain that's sexy (and the heart that's tender), the rest is mostly the mechanicals.  You may need a couple regulars who respect you for you, instead of you for being another trophy for the wall.  Unfortunately (?), you are trophy material externally so it's always going to be hunting season.

You're looking for an honest answer from a dishonest person?

cry. If only you could take a few moments to really look in the mirror and 'see' how beautiful you really are despite all the other stuff. If you believe it, others will too. It doesn't matter what anyone else says about or to you as long as you believe in yourself first.  

fall for that line of BS from her.

Her photos on IMDB are amazing

But she likes men as much as I do.  

Well...
First off this response was so very eloquently written; If not from a wording aspect, but from the stand-point of clearly communicating. And I could not agree with you more.

Expecting women to bare their souls about photoshopping would be a bit much to expect. Ok, it would be a LOT to expect. lol

I will help you out here.

No one got raped... at least I didn't call you a monkey.

And bait n switch has been around for decades ! And again his pics ain't that great ! LOL

Posted By: TaylorSteele

airbrushing vs using real photos and the pros and cons to it. Don't blame it on my skimming LOL while I admit I do at times, I still read the OP question and then go from there. This is a semblance to something already discussed and recently on this board. I can find it if you'd like but I don't have the time. Perhaps you were out to lunch that day with a tica consuming heavy alcohol. Don't know LOL. I believe CPA was in on the convo though and a few other regulars here.  
   
 Btw, I dedicated a photo to you personally on the Photo Board. If you can get what the tee says  
   
 A true selfie shot, nothing airbrushed about it. What you see is what you get. Should be posted soon.  
   
 

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I post weekly new candid cell pics. if i happen to use back page that day or night for a quick massage appt I post a pic of me right before i post.  
then i specify, "pic taken NOW."
i think the glamour shots look better on your wen page. I did try more frequent gallery updates with cell pics. I think cell pics ruin a nice web page.
 I know for me, if a man does happen to go read my web site...
 Its after he just read my most recent ad FIRST. which i always use either a pic from that week or that day.
if you guys are not happy when they get there you really should say hey you know are you really the lady in those photos? maybe try asking her? if it is that far fetched when you arrive!
 i mean those ladies with straight ten tens, they obviuosly look exactly like thier photos.
 thier photos look like extremely beautiful, so hence the 10 10 they also must be drop dead gorgeous.
 BUT on other  hand if a lady has equally as dazzling pics of her displayed on her site,  
BUT then the looks score is all very low.  
 i suppose that may be a warning the gal has super doctored up pics.
if i didnt like something . i d either go ask for refund or just send it back before i ate it, even better!
 i think using a cell pic thats un edited, every week or better yet that day,.  
works.
i would turn this right around on the hobbyist, and my question to you would be why did you hand her an envelope and go through with it?  
 if your not gonna do anything about it, then i dont wanna hear you complain about it.  
 you know why they do it? because your stupid ass is the kind thatl still pay ! so its apparently a good business practice for them apparently, once you guys stop paying them and then bitchin about it after the fact maybe theyl go outta fuckn business! geesh.
 god.  
 men.  
 i seriously am so annoyed with them lately. they are like little boys.waaah, waaah she didnt look like picture and i have no self control and will fuck anything that walks so i gave her my 300 any how cuz i am a child with not an ounce of self control.
 is basically what your saying!
 you think she suck when you arrive?> then tell her she looks nothin like her pics , and she can go suck it. and make a bee line for door,  
 what real man lets a fat ugly bitch take 300 from him? grow some balls.

I can answer why I blur my face and tattoos.. Privacy reasons.