"don't say I never gave you nothing" You like to quote others, you are welcome to look it up.
No, you don't get me hot and bothered. How little you really understand me despite all we have been through in the last few weeks, lol.
both on the hobbyist and provider sides who 'discount' or take it for 'free' when given the opportunity.......
IMO...NO respect there in my book. Defeats the whole purpose of this biz.
That makes this biz CHEAP and those who do so in it.
Stay true to who you are.............
Gentlemen...pay for her time, don't weasle. Period.
Ladies...don't discount for ratings or rankings and certainly don't give it away for free for your own enjoyment, seriously?
Under your set of rules must she continue to charge him right up until the time they reach the altar? or according to union rules must she continue to charge him even after the nuptials? lmao
and just who is going to be the one to write these "rules" that you speak of?
Just when I think you are starting to make some progress, you take three giant steps backwards.
backwards in your eyes and everyone elses...again just because I am NOT AGREEING with the masses as usual...so funny how that is. You become controversial for one second and it's a 'negative' thing in everyone's eyes....that is funny to me and why this board is such a friggin hoot...
Lil reflection...I DON"T FOLLOW the MASSES haha, never have never will. I thought you got that by now.
So let me repeat,
In your world of Unionized hookers, what happens if a provider pursues a "real" relationship with a client?
Are you really so mercenary that not only do you not "fuck for free" but you want every other hooker to live by your rules as well?
No I didn't ignore your question Gambler...sometimes obviously I go off on tangents...I'm not perfect ya know...geezk. Ease up.
In my world, if a provider actually does find something 'real' in a client then they go about it however they seem fit. Again, I don't think that can happen on a real level honestly but to each his/her own.
No I don't fuck anyone for free.
No I don't want everyone to follow my rules. I simply don't agree if she gives it away for free in this biz...perhaps let me repeat....it seems you ignored my original point as well.
and I find it very presumptuous for you to once again, dictate to others how to not only run their own business, but actually say with a straight face that others should not fuck for free, in or out of the business.
When hookers do unionize, I am sure you will be running for president of your local chapter. Of course that will be sometime long after pigs have learned to fly, and Maxwell the GEICO doesn't count. lol
so let's clarify that one....yes there are providers who fuck for free for their own enjoyment with clients and I VEHEMENTLY disagree with that....if you don't like that fact that I disagree with that, go away...I don't care what you think. I have a right to my own opinion just as much as you. Sorry, it's not right.
President? sounds good to me haha
And if you believe that one, good lord. Don't again, make me out for something I am not...I know it is fun for you gentlemen poking at people on here, especially you who hide behind alias' but whatever floats your boat
Let's start with the alias accusation, you do realize I hope that this is my "real" fake name, and there are hundreds if not thousands of members here who know exactly who I am. A hell of a lot more than who know you.
Secondly, I have had many "real" relationships with providers where they would "fuck me for free" the last time I checked that's what boyfriends and girlfriends do, regardless of what their occupations happen to be. If you don't like it than maybe you should go away because I am not asking for your permission or approval to fuck who I want. Nor are the several married couples I know who met as client/provider, I am sure they are so disappointed to learn that their marriages are nothing more than a sham because some forty plus year old hooker who's only been fucking for a living for a few months doesn't think it possible for two people to make a life for themselves just because it started off as a business relationship.
Next time just remind me to bring the smores.
I am sure you are now on Liam Christmas card list. rofl
Do White Knights like him really think that they are in fact "gentlemen" as opposed to spineless little pussies terrified of disagreeing with a woman, even a "know it all" middle aged hooker like Taylor?
liam just needs some testosterone shots and a gym to build his self confidence. Maybe he will come around or maybe he will turn into another lungboy.
I'm keeping a scorecard here...that's great...kudos to you on your popularity. If that's what floats your boat, by all means.
Go away.....awwwww, you hurt my feelings Gambler. And here I thought we were getting along just fine. Sorry...never.
And sorry, but don't put words in my mouth, now that's not playing fair. I said that's great if it works for those who can figure it out on their own in this biz and establish something. I would never knock love...real love...for those of you have have READ my PREVIOUS POSTS LMAO.
Now play nice please. I know it's asking alot, but try really hard...I know you can do it.
You make response criticizing posters that use an alias, then when called on it you weakly attempt to turn it around. I know that you are used to dealing with the likes of Liam who would never dream of speaking plainly to a women, even when she's plainly full of shit, but not all men are that spineless.
and if you are for "true love" between client and a provider, how do you suppose they find out if what they have is "real" if not by taking the money out of the equation at some point? yet another one of my points you chose to ignore.
Now as for playing nice, if that's codespeak for allowing you to make ridiculous statements without calling you out for it? Sorry, but that aint gonna happen.
Now please post more intelligently, I know it's asking a lot, but try really hard...I know you can do it. I know this because you have set the bar so low, you could literally trip over it.
Trying to tell a provider how to run her business is a moot issue. Do I think all people should get respect "just because" they are in the hobby? No, but I generally give credit, where credit is due. We just have to face the facts that not everyone is going to be like we think they should be, and when you realize that....no more stress lol.
I lived a long time trying to change OTHER people to make ME happy, when the person I needed to change was myself. Small steps
her business...this is just a 'general' comment on my thoughts on the topic that disturbs me about this business and I think in the end it undermines all women and why it is so frowned upon, that is all. To each his own, hell, noone agrees with the way I run my biz, do I give a FLYING FUCK...Hell no LOL...as you don't either.
I'm just saying, if most would just play by the 'rules' instead of being 'cheap' about it on both ends, I think makes for a better business deal for all of us in it, don't you agree?
You're saying everyone should "play by the rules instead of being cheap.."
Isn't every lady free to choose how she wants to operate her business?
Must she conform to a set of "universal hobby rules"?
What she charges and to whom she charges what is a personal decision.
Is that not what you are all about?
Granted, there are some abuses within the system like coersion by reviewers. But if
a provider wants to give a discount (like grandfathering in her regulars) or to get more business
she has right to do that. That to me is not cheap - just good business.
I'm just saying, if most would just play by the 'rules' instead of being 'cheap' about it on both ends, I think makes for a better business deal for all of us in it, don't you agree?
because they are career escorts, who can't do anything else. Those women will always do whatever it is to knock someone else down over a dime. I have one in my area who is that way. She basically threatens guys not to see "London" or any of her friends, or she will ruin them professionally. She spends all day yelling about how great she is, how she is the best, yet the bitch is nearly 45 and a high school drop out who has to blackmail guys into "taking care of her." It went as far as her hiring a P.I. to find out where I lived a few years ago, and taking photos of me and my CHILD!
Many people here are not playing with a full deck, and that should have not been such a surprise to me, but I must admit it was. I was very naive to assume everyone was genuine and on the up and up, because that is how I treated them. Nope. Respect is earned...I agree.
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P I, photos of your child......wow, scary.
Some would say, it's the devils' playground?
The whole escort things, that is.
To bad, because I believe the escort biz has it's place for older, single, lonely gentleman like me.
imho.
Well of course, I just used 'rules' to put things into perspective...when I entered this industry, it was apparent there were set fules as to how things were done and followed. Whether I agree with them or not is another story and not the point...there are a set of 'rules' to just about anything in life that 'society' or whomever of authority sets...so yes, take the word 'rules' for what it is.
I hate rules personally (I think that's pretty obvious) but when it comes to some things...yes there are some I believe that change this whole thing and not in a good way. Fuck if I had my own way, I'd change the course of the 'escort' industry in a heartbeat the minute I entered it, I saw things and was like 'WHAT?' get outta here, how about we do it this way instead.........................haha, but that ain't gonna happen and I'm not about to become the new 'pioneer' of the industry......can only do that with the way I run my biz and voice my opinion. That's all I got haha. Still don't agree with alot of it tho, obviously, or I wouldn't be criticized so much on the boards for my 'opinion'...
'change' or the idea of change brings out fear in most people when things are done a certain way for a long time...that goes with anything.
posted on this friggin board...however...there are some things that we all adhere strictly to...this is one of them for me. Of course, I know that most do it...I just don't agree with it is all. I'm sure most would disagree with me as usual anyhow...that's what makes it a topic of conversation...varying opinions.
I don't think I've ever agreed with any of the crap you've posted here. Total drivel.
A friend at work once told me:
"It took my wife 20 years to get me just the way I like myself" LOL.... Still, on that comment....today.
I lived a long time trying to change OTHER people to make ME happy, when the person I needed to change was myself. Small steps.
whether or not my regard for them will grow higher or lower is dependent upon the way they treat me.
there is a baseline of respect which i show to ANYONE. from that point forward, though, it has to be earned.
i am kind to every person i meet -- taxi cab drivers, waiters, front desk staff at hotels, etc -- and expect the same.
Respect that they, like you, are a live?
Respect they were created with strengths?
Respect that no one chose what attributes their life would be imbued with?
Respect that death is the same endlessness for everyone?
Respect that not liking someone because they do not live their life they way you think they should is frailty?
Depraved
whether we're talking about hobbying or outside the hobby.
He/she who has the gold, makes the rules; and we all know where the gold resides, don't we?
Respect comes from being comfortable with yourself, as in the Biblical pronouncement: Love thy neighbor as thyself. Note it does NOT say love thy neighbor instead of thyself. You have to like yourself before you can treat others properly. If you are the type of person who treats others poorly, then learn to love yourself first. Stay at home and whack off, in other words.
While I'm on a roll with the Bible, here's another one to consider:
Yea, as I walk through the valley of death, I shall fear no evil, (for I'm the meanest son-of-a-bitch in the valley.)
That last quote. Adorable . As always.
I believe you give the respect to the person as a human but there is a limit. If provider or client is being a complete ass then no need to quibble about what you should take or give away. As a provider you have the right to stop and say that's enough and the client has right to just walk away. Personally I would never not pay a lady if I started in with the appt wether or not it was offered for free. It's still a business transaction and if he or she wants to make it something other then that then a proper date should be set aside with both parties being aware. Really though I gotta say to the client that's still the provider and to the provider that's still the client. How often does something else ever truly come out of that start to a relationship?
as they please. For you to say that any providers who are giving discounts deserve no respect is out of line and the same with hobbyists.
For you to say that women should not be giving themselves away for free and for their own enjoyment is preposterous, idiotic and shows that you are introspectively bankrupt.
You may remain an authority in your own mind.
I don't think her "don't give it away free" comment was meant to concern civie world. I think she meant providers who fked for free to get higher scores. I also don't fk anyone for free, but more power to those who want to live their lives that way. I just can't justify fkin for a living and then doing it for nothing at the same time lol. I would be totally exhausted!
It happens in the civie world too...
I work on computers all day for a living but I do help people with theirs for free...
And that can be exhausting too 
She said....certainly don't give it away for free for your own enjoyment, seriously?
She had made it clear on several occasions that her pussy will never be given to men free of charge. So what do you think she meant by "your own enjoyment?" She's out of line, and you can't give her a way out of her own words.
If you have two providers and one is fkin guys for free just for enjoyment thus getting all 10s, and another who is doing her damn job actually EARNING those scores, would you not consider that "unfair" to providers? This is a BUSINESS!
I am not saying I give a shit about what others do, but I do have to say women using this BUSINESS as a playground, do fk up the market some. You guys wonder why review scores are so inflated...there is your answer. Even TER discourages discounts and freebies for good reviews, so I don't know why Taylor saying the same thing is taken so out of context. If the only way you can be a good hooker is to give it away, you're not a hooker to begin with!
If they want to just get their rocks off and NOT charge, why bother having a website with a "Rates" page? Seems a little stupid to claim you're a provider but you don't charge. That's my only issue. What a woman does outside of this business I could not give two shits about, but on that same token, don't tell me that I have to do it or that there is something "wrong" with me because I choose not to spread my legs for every d*ck on my off time.
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Then why aren't they just on Adult Friend Finder?? Or Craigslist's casual hook-ups?? That's like bringing cake and a cup of coffee from home to Starbuck's and wanting to sit in one of their cozy chairs all day.
Yes Sarah...it happens here more than you'd believe. For enjoyment, rankings, ratings, reviews you name it...
wouldn't it be likely that SHE is the one who is more deserving of the tens than a mercenary hooker who only fucks for money?
The hooker that THINKS she is putting on a good act, but doesn't really like sex might think she is earning high scores, but the truth of the matter is maybe guys are a bit more perceptive than you give them credit for?
Personally I don't really give a fuck whether a provider fucks some other guy for free, or if she is secretly a man hater like your friend Taylor. That is as long as her "real" attitude about it doesn't bleed through into her sessions, or at least her sessions with me. I have no delusions that any of the hookers that I pay to have sex with me have any real feelings, but like most guys I prefer passionate sex to mechanical sex, and it's a lot easier to fake passion when you actually like what you do, and what better proof is there that a woman likes to fuck than the fact that she does it for free, "FOR HER OWN ENJOYMENT"??? That's such a no brainer, it's not even worth asking.
The freebies for reviews question is just as easy, of course that is not right, and as you pointed out it's also against the rules and rightfully so.
It connotes more insecurity than anything else if done in this BUSINESS! Outside of this, no problem. That's the issue. There are those who have you THINKING they really like you, will fk you for free or half off, KNOWING you're going to reward that "naivety" with higher scores. Just because she catered to your EGO through her own manipulation, does not in any way mean she actually enjoyed it. Cmon.
You are manipulating the system and the business, so no...I don't think some AFF candidate is more deserving than a woman who vowed to do what she said she would for the PRICE quoted, to feed her family or get ahead in life by being in this business. If I fk my boss at my real job and get a promotion, I did not "earn" shit. Same thing goes here. We would ALL have solid 10s, if we just gave the shit away to the bottom feeders who are willing to write bs reviews.
So no, it's abuse of the system, and in now way correlates with true enjoyment. I don't know a single person alive who does not "love and enjoy sex" but they don't enjoy it with ANYONE. Ask some of the hubbies around here. You saying a woman who fks ANYONE for free enjoys it more than one who has some standards, is hilarious. Fkin EVERYONE FOR FREE does not mean you enjoy sex in EVERY instance...it could mean you are desperate, butt ugly, have been abused, or will do anything for attention and to feel like someone gives a damn. Fail.
I don't buy for one second that some 20 year old super model ENJOYS fkin guys that she would otherwise find disgusting, and let's face it...we are not in a business that caters to the Brad Pitts and Channing Tatums. She will however PRETEND to enjoy it, give you that discount/freebie, to sucker you into taking care of her and giving her those 10/10 reviews. Sorry, but I just don't operate that way.
Though higher scores look good on paper, they don't pay my damn bills or give my child a better future...money does that. Great reviews without the money that goes with them, is useless.
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"certainly don't give it away for free for your own enjoyment, seriously?"
Her words not mine.
and since you chose to direct this little tirade at me. I don't review, and everybody knows it. So anyone who is fucking ME for free better damn well be enjoying it, because that's all they are getting from me for it.
LR, please tell me you are drinking today, and yes I mean alcohol, because from the tone of this post, it sounds more like you have been drinking some of Taylor's stupid juice, you normally make more sense than this.
and since when is convincing a man that she really enjoyed it NOT part of the fantasy that should be rewarded by higher scores. Your anger is getting the better of you today, and you post makes almost as little sense as those of Taylor's. I would suggest you take a deep breath, another shot of vodka and start all over again. lol
have completely misinterpreted this whole damn thread as usual....taking things personally I see...well too bad for you. Ease up Gambler...perhaps you should ease up on the juice a lil bit. JC already.
but if you think that we are going to let you spew crap all over the board unchallenged, Sorry, but that just isn't going to happen, so get used to it.
OTOH you seem to be the one that has to answer every post that disagrees with you on every thread you are on, maybe you need to stop taking things personally, or give up drinking, if you even drink that is.
and I see you still haven't answered the question I asked you from the very beginning, of course it's impossible to answer with out admitting that you are full of shit in the process. Don't worry, I am sure you will get better at this if you stick around, you are at the very bottom so there is nowhere to go but up, or out I suppose.
This is all my post meant. If you fk a provider FOR FREE, then you did not HIRE HER AS A PROVIDER, and therefore CANNOT review that fk she GAVE YOU. That's it. If you bang a chick for free you did not HIRE her, it cancels out the entire "provider" part of the equation thus making it stupid to give away ass to begin with when you have a website stating you are a hooker!
Reviews are for women you HIRE and PAY, and for guys to know how that SERVICE was with someone YOU PAID, not how some chick who fked you for free, performed. I bet that free fk you had was better service than the next poor sap, who is buying that review lol. Duh. Oh, and I did not mean that YOU write reviews, just used "you" in the general sense. We good? And, who the hell is "angry?" If you actually TALKED to me, you would know my ass is hyper all the time, and nothing more. 
Both you and Taylor had good points, and I don't just jump on the bandwagon when I think her post made some sense. Do I agree with everything she writes? No, but much of this I do happen to agree with because I am a business woman...end of story. OTOH, I am not telling providers they should do this and that, because that's just insanity. You can't change other people.
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Now that is bat shit fucking crazy.
and I have had providers that have fucked me both on and off the clock. It not really that complicated, Sometimes it leads to something, sometimes it doesn't, but for a newbie provider to be giving lectures to others about fucking for their enjoyment is just the height of arrogance, and certainly reinforces her image as a man hater.
I also know your ass is hyper, that's I felt you needed a sharp rap to the head before I started drinking myself, Speaking of which, time to open a bottle of wine to wash down the blue crabs I am about to eat followed, by a different bottle to wash down the crawfish to follow, Now who could possibly be angry with a meal like that on the horizon? lol
Between the crawfish and the blue crabs I stunk up the whole house. maybe I will have dinner out tonight? lol
Sorry bud, she's right...I'm only talking in 'this' world, not the real one. No matter how much I disgust you, I have a right to my own opinions etc etc...and yes, there are women who do this job and offer their services 'free for their own enjoyment' to their clients for whatever reason...I agree with London...I'd be exhausted and no way in hell would I ever ever do that. I feel sorry for the women who do, again my own opinion. They are taking this business out of context then.
So sorry bud, you are wrong.
She had made it clear on several occasions that her pussy will never be given to men free of charge. So what do you think she meant by "your own enjoyment?" She's out of line, and you can't give her a way out of her own words.
Just your Alias speaks volumes about who is in "their own mind"
For you to say that women should not be giving themselves away for free and for their own enjoyment is preposterous, idiotic and shows that you are introspectively bankrupt.
You may remain an authority in your own mind.
can handle him...trust me LOL. He makes me giggle Liam.
We all know a gentlemen like he is only threatened by a 'beautiful' woman with a mind and someone who god forbid speaks their mind and posts things that actually touch something inside of themselves that we all think about but never say...god forbid. Fear is an ugly thing especially hiding behind that fear....which we all do no matter how you try to mask it.
He's fascinated with the fact that I don't give a fuck what people think and that I can actually speak intelligently and be in this biz at the same time. To 'own' what it is I do. It's ok Panthera, we all get it Love you. Anytime you wanna play for real, you let me know. Oh yea, but that's right, he'll come back and say I'm not close to being his type of course...physically, emotionally with all my baggage haha...you like to 'control' the women you see...sorry not my style, not in this world or 'that' world. Men like Panthera with those issues don't like that kind of thing. LMAO Still love your machismo tho...have to admit, it's gentlemen like you that actually get me in trouble in the 'real' world haha. See right thru you bud.
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It doesn't impress anyone, but maybe she will buy you some new knee pads for yours are getting worn out.
all those he disagrees with.
Are you unable to entertain civil discourse with anyone on the boards?
Me thinks you try too hard your "lioness".
Be Civil little one.
really!!! knee pads!!! lmao!!!
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IMO, equating money with respect is not valid. Rates are economics 101... Supply and Demand.
Ladies (supply) should charge as much as they can to maximize their revenue and meet their monetary goals.
Guys (demand) should pay what they can afford and get as much time with who they want for the lowest price.
Where the two meet is market equilibrium. The market is dynamic and changes over time based on numerous individual decisions. Attaining equilibrium involves numbers... Period.
Negotiating to reach that point can and should be done with respect. Your language (weaseling, cheap, golden pussy syndrome, giving it away,etc) is loaded and inflames the negotiation process and does show lack of respect.
Trying to get lower rates should not be equated to lack of respect. The negotiating process can be respectful. It is how each side interprets it.
Talking about rates...
I like how LR structures her rates. 2 hr min for $300/hr avg. Then additional hrs for $100 each. Is she practically giving away those hrs? Is LR some sort of $100/hr BP skank. HELL NO... because those extra hrs increase her weekly revenue to where she wants it.
Side note... If I was in NO, I'd love the opportunity to spend 3 or 4 hrs with her without breaking the freaking bank. I haven't been able to do that before because most providers are too shortsighted to see the overall revenue picture rather than the hourly one.
You charge $500/hr avg for 3-4 hrs and then discount to $250/hr after that. I will never pay that because I can't afford it. Would I try to get you down to a lower rate? No because I'm too busy enjoying a Cajun meal elsewhere that I can afford But if I did decide to ask about lower rates, I'd do it in a way that is reasonable and respectful. You can say no respectfully too.
To me, it's all about HOW you negotiate if you choose to. Not the fact that you try it
You will note I DO NOT OFFER anything above 2 hours of bcd time....ever! If a guy wants 3 solid hours of fking, he has to go to someone else, because this hooker is not doing it lol. Now, I am VERY reasonable with respect to true gentlemen who want to have a nice dinner, which is why my dinner rates are so very cheap. My dinner rates are half and half, always have been, and always will be.
I agree, it is about equilibrium which most providers simply have no clue about. Some price themselves too high and have to run specials every other day...some too low, and attract bottom feeders. I toyed around with rates for a few years before finally getting to a place that worked for both me and the guys seeking my services.
I would be lying if I said that cheap women did not piss me off at times, but only in my area. Why? Because when you have 19 year olds fkin 4 guys a day for less than 200, it does in fact affect that average market of women in the 250-300 range, who do not WANT to fk that many guys to get by. Does not affect me, because I priced myself right out of all that shit, but many friends of mine including agency businesses, are struggling to compete.
If every provider got together and said "NONE of us are taking less than 500," guys would either have to pay it or go jack off. Same thing if the guys got together (and they do in certain areas of Texas) and said, "We are not going to see any touring provider over 300." Welcome to the world of price fixing.
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ITO = in the open
UTDT = under the dinner table
LOL = laugh out loud
Nice Evening."
That was spoken, some 3 decades ago ,by the Father of a friend, to my buddy and I.
After we both declined the $100 each (MALE EGO!!!!), Mom stepped up and said.......
"Boys, Don't look a Gift Horse in the Mouth"
Knowing they had a shit load of $$$$$$$$$, (Family owned one of the biggest Co. in Chicago) and mom was insisting ...... we kindly acquiesced. lol!!! (No twisting my arm)
2 bills more ...... back then went a long way for the 5 of us on the club scene.
Thanks Pop we had a good time....... we never turned down his offers ..... Ever!!
of course such generosity always gets paid forward in the manner of tips....
Haha... more than you know Liam. It's pretty obvious most gentlemen dont understand that concept.
It's a simple notion really.... treat a woman with the utmost respect and beauty she deserves and you will be rewarded in ways you never dreamed possible.
I still gotta pay for it? 
IMO...NO respect there in my book. Defeats the whole purpose of this biz.
That makes this biz CHEAP and those who do so in it.
Stay true to who you are.............
Gentlemen...pay for her time, don't weasle. Period.
Ladies...don't discount for ratings or rankings and certainly don't give it away for free for your own enjoyment, seriously?
Come on be serious. Every business has a plan to keep them coming in for the first time and to keep them coming back. It might be 2 for 1 ( a second cup). by 1 at full price next 1 at half. It might be you just put out an extra special effort. But 1 way or another you are doing something extra to get them to come back. It might not be a blatant as a freebee but without it being a bargain or something special why would a customer return to you as opposed to seeing who is next on the list??
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Don't say I never gave you nothing, and it's free, just for you.
At least admit I get you a lil hot and bothered underneath that anonymous handsome collar you are wearing LOL.
"don't say I never gave you nothing" You like to quote others, you are welcome to look it up.
No, you don't get me hot and bothered. How little you really understand me despite all we have been through in the last few weeks, lol.
my ego a lil and just have said yes to one thing altho of course I wouldve known it was a lie silly...geezk. You don't know how to play nice at all do you. Again, tisk tisk disappointing Panthera. I thought we agreed on when to say 'when'.
*crickets chirping*
A lil bit more.......
yes..................... right there lol
Next time you start another controversial get your knickers in a twist thread LOL. I'll be sure to chime in if I see fit.
P....Try not to miss me too too much, k?
Talk soon.
T. xxoo
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