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I cry and usually curl up with a pint of Ben and Jerry's chunky Monkey

Okay, I usually just ignore but I wonder how do people both hobbyist and providers deal with hate mail? I know I'm not the only one that gets them (Although I'm flattered because literally people are taking time to call me this or not including racist remarks) I'm just curious how do you deal with hate mail? Do you report it, answer it back or ignore it?

JackDunphy445 reads

Some peeps just want to hit and run with the hate mail and aren't interested in any meaningful exchange. Nothing you can do about that.

But many are open to dialogue and minds can be changed or their hatred can be lessened. LOL  

Personally, I always answer it back for its hard to determine who will hear you out and who won't at first.  

But many times it ends with "well, I still don't agree with but you are not the horrible, goiter infested wretch I thought you were." LOL  

I consider those wins.

For you though, I would ignore the racist ones. In my experience you aren't going to be able to change that mind or heart and I wouldn't even give them the satisfaction of a reply.

That's true Jack, I just don't understand why someone would write they would never see a spic....like what good does that do or oh i hate girls with curly hair. That just makes no sense to me.

JackDunphy407 reads

Beautiful skin color. My fav actually.  

What are you gonna do though? Haters gonna hate. Fk 'em Rox.

GaGambler350 reads

Not about "spics" of course, I agree totally about how fucking wonderful Latinas are, but where it comes to haters and hookers, I say "don't fuck em" Fuck everyone else but them and then laugh at them when they get blue balls.

GaGambler256 reads

and I might be an asshole, and I might have enjoyed his post, but I was not one of the two assholes who "liked" his post.

and I have to agree with Jack, varying shades of "marron" or "chocolate" are among my favorite colors. "mocha" included.  

Now lighten up, neither Jack or I are the villains here, the true asshole is the guy sending Roxy hate mail.

Why bother to write that garbage? If they don't prefer you, next!
If I get to NYC, my message won't be hate mail. Appointment time!
Losers everywhere, the 20% rule?

Posted By: RoxanneHeartNYC
That's true Jack, I just don't understand why someone would write they would never see a spic....like what good does that do or oh i hate girls with curly hair. That just makes no sense to me.

GaGambler374 reads

Ok, now that you have picked yourself up off the floor from laughing, I deal with hate mail the same way as I deal with my "fan club" here. I simply belittle and make such cowards look just as foolish and impotent in private as I do in public. Anyone who has to stoop to "hate mail" is almost by definition a coward. I love making cowards look stupid.

As for your three choices, reporting it empowers the sender and makes him/her believe you can be intimidated. Answering it can be entertaining, but I only answer hate mail for entertainments sake, my own entertainment that is, NEVER to play the game of someone else. and of course ignoring it works just fine as well, trolls and stalkers just HATE to be ignored.

But of course what do I know, who would ever send hate mail to little ole me?

Yeah I figured people would send  you hate mail they don't understand your sense of humor I love it. You come off strong baby do you doubt why people send  you hate mail for me it's a turn on. RAWR. lol. Yeah I think I will just ignore it then what else is left to do. Be someone's victim I don;t think so. I just can't imagine why some people would send you mail to tell you how much they hate you lol like really?

GaGambler344 reads

Who is the winner and who is the loser?

it's always been my experience that the person getting mad is the person losing the war. It's like the old poker saying "winners tell jokes, losers say DEAL"

and I am with Jack, I like spics, better than those pale faced mics, wouldn't you agree? lol

hotplants385 reads

‘politically correct’

And yes, there is some line out there, that when crossed, can take political correctness to a bizarre place (and there is a lot of this going on today—college students protesting professors who publically express ideas with which they disagree? And universities dismissing those professors in response? Are you kidding me? IMO---this, we should all be worried about).  

But there is also another line. That line is: getting all fucking happified about finding an opportunity to refer to people using labels that have a long and, very, very ugly history of being used, not only as an insult to an entire group of people, but the use of which has often been followed by all manner of hatred and physical violence.  

spics and mics? Why stop there? Why not niggers and coons? How about kikes? Injuns? Wops? Wetbacks? Towel-heads….dykes, faggots? At a minimum, if you're gonna pull out racial insults, as a joke, make sure you personally know the person you're talking to.  

You’ve said many times you don’t care about being called oriental. Not sure if that extends to chink. But, your personal tolerance is not the point. There’s nothing justifiable about trying so hard to continue propagating a hateful/violent status quo, because you perceive NOT doing this to be ‘too politically correct’.    

People that you guys perceive as being too politically correct on this are, in actuality, people who would simply like this kind of antiquated status quo to die fucking yesterday.  

What's wrong with letting this kind of thing remain in the past, where it belongs

JackDunphy325 reads

In case you haven't noticed, there is a major backlash sweeping the country against the PC culture and much of it is coming from liberal comedians, who can't use any of the words you wrote on college campuses because the kids all get their micro aggression backs up.

And you are asking the wrong guy in GaG as I think he HAS used all those words here. I had to introduce him to "slope" as I think he didn't know that one. LOL

Lighten up a bit sweetie. Crack open a cold one and relax. It's shits and giggles.

You know for someone on a fk board, doncha think its about time you got laid? LOL  

I'll kick in a few bucks to make it happen and I'm as cheap as they come.

Love ya plants and Happy New Year to you!

hotplants370 reads

You’re right jack. There is a problem with political correctness. But it’s definitely not about ‘liberal comedians’. Because any comedian, liberal or not, who has at least one foot in the present, can connect quite well with college audiences. This is because these comedians have written a new joke since 1985---1990?

While you’re worried about someone taking away your right to use some particular word, the actual problem with political correctness is flying right the fuck over your head.  

I’ll give you an address where you can send money for me to get laid

JackDunphy333 reads

That's the point plants.  

And no, I am not worried about anyone taking a "right" from me in this regard. I am concerned that the PC police in general feel the need to try and limit speech by bullying/shaming people into using "correct" verbiage.

Who gets to decide the "right" and the "wrong" words plants? You? You know exactly where to draw the line or is it more of a gray area?

Context and intent is everything. GaG and myself may use politically incorrect language at times but it is not directed at any one person with the intent of harming them. Anyone with a modicum of intelligence and sense of fairness would see this based on the totality of our posts.

The use of these words, from my perspective, is to actually poke fun at those specific words and to use them with humor to actually DISARM their hurtful qualities

bigguy30286 reads

Posted By: JackDunphy
That's the point plants.  
   
 And no, I am not worried about anyone taking a "right" from me in this regard. I am concerned that the PC police in general feel the need to try and limit speech by bullying/shaming people into using "correct" verbiage.  
   
 Who gets to decide the "right" and the "wrong" words plants? You? You know exactly where to draw the line or is it more of a gray area?  
   
 Context and intent is everything. GaG and myself may use politically incorrect language at times but it is not directed at any one person with the intent of harming them. Anyone with a modicum of intelligence and sense of fairness would see this based on the totality of our posts.  
   
 The use of these words, from my perspective, is to actually poke fun at those specific words and to use them with humor to actually DISARM their hurtful qualities.  
   
 

JackDunphy285 reads

Wtf does my views on PC hace to do with getting laid? LOL  

Are you pulling out all the stops on the last day of SPOTY contention?

Ok, I'll give you credit. It was a good effort. We'll see what the judges say in late January. LOL

followme296 reads

He was declared the SPOTY winner this afternoon.

His acceptance speech/post was confirmation he is well deserving of the title.

Thank yo

bigguy30268 reads

Then you went back to your usual bs.
You are such a joke on here.

Posted By: followme
He was declared the SPOTY winner this afternoon.  
   
 His acceptance speech/post was confirmation he is well deserving of the title.  
   
 Thank you  
   
 

bigguy30232 reads

It's a word for people like you. Lol  

Posted By: JackDunphy
Wtf does my views on PC hace to do with getting laid? LOL  
   
 Are you pulling out all the stops on the last day of SPOTY contention?  
   
 Ok, I'll give you credit. It was a good effort. We'll see what the judges say in late January. LOL

GaGambler299 reads

Roxy was called a "spic" in a hateful manner, what Jack and I did was take ownership of that word and take all it's power away. When a racist uses a word like that in an attempt to hurt someone the best defense is to NOT get all bent out of shape over the word, but the intent. I can't believe that something this basis just flew right over your head.

 
and yes I do know Roxy and I am POSITIVE she was not offended by either Jack's or my words. Our words were written in support of her, not to demean her. I like you Plants, but somedays you really need to get a clue, this is most definitely one of those days.

Words can only hurt you if you give them the power to hurt you,

JackDunphy292 reads

Clearly an intelligent, well spoken woman who is up on all the issues. I actually think I would have a whoot with her over a beer or two.

But as you state, there are times when she sees certain words and phrases and it sets her hair on fire, for whatever reason.

I just don't like the "word" or "thought" police coming down on peeps to stifle freedom of speech, and that is exactly what PC does.

Can you imagine what would happen if a few aholes came into this thread like the ones Rox decribed in her OP, amd called her a "no good, fkin ugly spic?" You and I and others here, including plants, would be all over that dude.

THOSE are the idiots that need to be confronted and bullied. Just my 2.5 cents.

And fwiw, plants persona is sorely needed here because she does have a unique take on things and she won't back down to the mob and I always respect that. I really do like reading her posts, whether I agree with her or not.

hotplants284 reads

I get the context. I do. That was not my point. The point I’m attempting make is more subtle. I also ‘get’ that subtlety tends to not translate well on the interwebs; the only solution to that, of course, is being better able to communicate subtle nuances. And that failure is mine.  

Suffice to say we disagree and that’s fine.  

I will comment on the old saw that: “Words can only hurt you if you give them the power to hurt you”.  

Lots of people say this all the time. But, it’s not true. It’s not. The hurt happens. Some are better at overcoming (rationalizing?) it, after the fact.  
 

Posted By: GaGambler
Roxy was called a "spic" in a hateful manner, what Jack and I did was take ownership of that word and take all it's power away. When a racist uses a word like that in an attempt to hurt someone the best defense is to NOT get all bent out of shape over the word, but the intent. I can't believe that something this basis just flew right over your head.  
   
   
 and yes I do know Roxy and I am POSITIVE she was not offended by either Jack's or my words. Our words were written in support of her, not to demean her. I like you Plants, but somedays you really need to get a clue, this is most definitely one of those days.  
   
 Words can only hurt you if you give them the power to hurt you,

Posted By: hotplants
‘politically correct’  
   
 And yes, there is some line out there, that when crossed, can take political correctness to a bizarre place (and there is a lot of this going on today—college students protesting professors who publically express ideas with which they disagree? And universities dismissing those professors in response? Are you kidding me? IMO---this, we should all be worried about).  
   
 But there is also another line. That line is: getting all fucking happified about finding an opportunity to refer to people using labels that have a long and, very, very ugly history of being used, not only as an insult to an entire group of people, but the use of which has often been followed by all manner of hatred and physical violence.  
   
 spics and mics? Why stop there? Why not niggers and coons? How about kikes? Injuns? Wops? Wetbacks? Towel-heads….dykes, faggots? At a minimum, if you're gonna pull out racial insults, as a joke, make sure you personally know the person you're talking to.  
   
 You’ve said many times you don’t care about being called oriental. Not sure if that extends to chink. But, your personal tolerance is not the point. There’s nothing justifiable about trying so hard to continue propagating a hateful/violent status quo, because you perceive NOT doing this to be ‘too politically correct’.    
   
 People that you guys perceive as being too politically correct on this are, in actuality, people who would simply like this kind of antiquated status quo to die fucking yesterday.  
   
 What's wrong with letting this kind of thing remain in the past, where it belongs?  
   
   
 

How do you deal with hate mail for example  

Roxanne, I can not understand why anyone would pay for your spic ass I could do better at a bar. You are a fat hideous woman.  

How would you answer that?

I've never received anything like that, but if I did and knew who sent it it wouldn't end well...and I don't understand the mental processes that would drive one to write that...

How do you handle it? Do you, or can you even ignore it? It would seem that responding would be nothing more than feeding the troll...but not responding would and could leave one bitter and belittled..

GaGambler300 reads

It's an anonymous fuck board for fucks sake. If some little turd can leave you feeling "bitter and belittled" over some shit said behind the anonymity of the internet, just how the fuck do you survive in real life?

A minute ago, you said "it wouldn't end well" and you would probably end up in jail.

GaGambler309 reads

because that certainly sounds like "giving a shit" to me.

Senator.Blutarsky314 reads

Save your breath – you’ll need it to blow up your date

That's good! "Bless your heart" might work too LOL

bbfs4ever348 reads

Just ignore that stuff.

If you're really bored and want to just fuck with the sender, sure.  Screw back with them.  I do that with the scam callers that have made the mistake of calling me to tell me that I owe IRS money (it's a popular scam).  Or the call from some moron claiming to be my sick Aunt and needs money (I don't have an Aunt).  Or maybe the fool that just needs $ 199.99 so that the $ 1.875 million in trust for me can be wired.

Same crap with some moron sending hate mail.  Either ignore the troll, or just fuck right back at them and see how long the emails go on.

You should tell them that you'll need an advance deposit (non-refundable) of $ 1,785 in order to comply with their email banter.  Maybe some moron would actually send it.

bbfs4ever312 reads

I'll just take my 30% commission.

JackDunphy314 reads

I see GaG and Jack and BB and...

We are lovable, in our own bizarre, schizophrenic and hedonistic ways, are we not? LOL  

It's like the OP chimed the waters and all the Sharks came up to the surface to feed. :D

post the hate mail on here. Say all this sh*t where others could have an input. Where are the balls? That's what I want to know. I love that the alias is always something stupid like 666 or something dumb.

Wait a minute!  Are you saying I'm stupid, Roxanne?!  I'm so hurt...

JackDunphy338 reads

Didn't you send ME hate mail Rox a few weeks ago? :D  :D

We worked through it though, didn't we?

bigguy30287 reads

They are fools and looking for trouble!

Posted By: RoxanneHeartNYC
Okay, I usually just ignore but I wonder how do people both hobbyist and providers deal with hate mail? I know I'm not the only one that gets them (Although I'm flattered because literally people are taking time to call me this or not including racist remarks) I'm just curious how do you deal with hate mail? Do you report it, answer it back or ignore it?
-- Modified on 12/30/2015 6:27:53 PM

posts on TER are thoughtful and well written. Once I have the pleasure of spending time with you, I will be further able to recount how wonderful you are.

Now, the question, why would some A-hole take the time to even bother to send someone (provider or hobbyist) hate mail? I got better things to do with my time.

Why waste the energy?   Haters are going to hate.  Why let them suck the energy out of you?

Three words: I forgive you.

Then block them lol  because as they say 'you can't fix stupid' so why even try.

-- Modified on 12/30/2015 10:23:14 PM

GaGambler333 reads

Anyone who feels the need to block someone might as well just admit the other person got the better of him/her. Unless of course the other person turns into a stalker and starts blowing up your shit.

You might think it gives you the upper hand, but in truth it's waving the white flag of surrender and a real "cunty" move.

Though I see your point so like everything else, it just depends on ones point of view. To me I don't think in terms of surrender or cuntiness (is that a word?). It's more that I don't have time for this shit so I don't even want to look at it.  Sort of like putting telemarketers on a no call list.

GaGambler287 reads

but what you describe is a tactic often used by "cunts" here. They send a flaming PM and then block you so you can't respond back to them and course they claim victory in the process. If that's not "cuntiness" I don't know what is.  

Now please don't confuse "cuntiness" with simply being a bit "cunty" That would put someone in Tobi territory, where "cunty" is a term of endearment. Not very many people can pull off cunty though. TT is one of the few.

Clearly I need to consult urban dictionary more regularly.  It's such an advantage living in the information age as before the internet there was probably no way for the average joe to learn the difference between cunty and cuntiness - but now there is.  Now that's progress.

followme296 reads

And going out of his way to make a big announcement that he put someone on ignore.

He does fit your description.

Thank you  
2016 = 28

bigguy30327 reads

Then they like to post comments like this one below.
 

Posted By: followme
And going out of his way to make a big announcement that he put someone on ignore.  
   
 He does fit your description.  
   
 Thank you  
 2016 = 28
-- Modified on 12/31/2015 4:42:06 AM

I thought you were Italian?

Posted By: RoxanneHeartNYC
Okay, I usually just ignore but I wonder how do people both hobbyist and providers deal with hate mail? I know I'm not the only one that gets them (Although I'm flattered because literally people are taking time to call me this or not including racist remarks) I'm just curious how do you deal with hate mail? Do you report it, answer it back or ignore it?

bigguy30303 reads

So Italians had to deal with racisim back in the day.
Also it's nothing Italian about Roxanne.  
It's clear she is a sexy latina.

Posted By: DURHAMDREW63
I thought you were Italian?  
   
Posted By: RoxanneHeartNYC
Okay, I usually just ignore but I wonder how do people both hobbyist and providers deal with hate mail? I know I'm not the only one that gets them (Although I'm flattered because literally people are taking time to call me this or not including racist remarks) I'm just curious how do you deal with hate mail? Do you report it, answer it back or ignore it?

GaGambler327 reads

You really are the dullest wit that has ever come on this board?

Well Fancy made a nice run here at the end of the year, but I think this last post of yours clinches it, you are the overwhelming choice for SPOTY 2015 Congratufuckinglations.

Ok, now that the title is yours, you can fess up now. Please tell the crowd, "are you really this fucking stupid, or is it all an act for the boards?" Enquiring minds want to know.

followme297 reads

His acceptance speech/post.

it will be entertaining if nothing else.

 
Thank you
LI = 5

bigguy30283 reads

So it's going on ten years and counting. Lol
 

Posted By: followme
His acceptance speech/post.  
   
 it will be entertaining if nothing else.  
   
   
 Thank you  
 LI = 5
-- Modified on 12/31/2015 7:34:39 AM

followme266 reads

So you are so obsessed with me that you keep track of my reviews.

My gosh are really  desperate for jack-off material.

Well you just keep checking my reviews, ya never know when one will pop up  
so to speak.

I'll be in Las Vegas, yes "in January" if ya know what I mean.

 
You're Welcome

bigguy30321 reads

You start trouble with people like the coward you are and then play the victim?
So I could care less but if you start making trouble I will respond!
We all know you are not here for the female providers.
This is your problem you need to find a woman and get laid!
Just take one step at a time but hopefully you will get their one day.
 

Posted By: followme
So you are so obsessed with me that you keep track of my reviews.  
   
 My gosh are really  desperate for jack-off material.  
   
 Well you just keep checking my reviews, ya never know when one will pop up  
 so to speak.  
   
 I'll be in Las Vegas, yes "in January" if ya know what I mean.  
   
   
 You're Welcome  
   
   
 

bigguy30282 reads

So you just wanted to write something to feel good about yourself again GaGambler? Lol

Posted By: GaGambler
You really are the dullest wit that has ever come on this board?  
   
 Well Fancy made a nice run here at the end of the year, but I think this last post of yours clinches it, you are the overwhelming choice for SPOTY 2015 Congratufuckinglations.  
   
 Ok, now that the title is yours, you can fess up now. Please tell the crowd, "are you really this fucking stupid, or is it all an act for the boards?" Enquiring minds want to know.
-- Modified on 12/31/2015 7:33:29 AM

I see sarcasm Isn't your area of expertise. In other words ... DUH!

I cry and usually curl up with a pint of Ben and Jerry's chunky Monkey

I don't get hate mail...best to let it go...I feel for ya!

Posted By: RoxanneHeartNYC
Okay, I usually just ignore but I wonder how do people both hobbyist and providers deal with hate mail? I know I'm not the only one that gets them (Although I'm flattered because literally people are taking time to call me this or not including racist remarks) I'm just curious how do you deal with hate mail? Do you report it, answer it back or ignore it?

Don't sweat it Roxy, some people are just plain ignorant. I saw a beautiful provider that had blonde hair in her pics but when I went and met her she was a brunette. I actually thought she was even hotter but still beautiful either way. She told me of a client that came to see her once he saw she wasn't blonde to let him know when she went back to blonde. That was a stupid move on his part.

Those people are too IIU   (insignificant, ignorant  and unimportant  to deal with).

I ignore it, don't fuel fires you don't want.  If they don't stop, I block and black list them.  Some ladies have gone as far as restraining orders.  Do whatever it takes to keep you safe and away from the nonsense.  Normally not giving them a response is best.

I have responded once or twice with something like:

"You actually too the time out of your day and CHOSE to say something to another human being for the purpose of causing them negative feelings.  I feel sorry for you and hope one day you will get past that."

I get apologies and actually got 1 regular client that has been seeing me for a year.  If you do choose to respond, make it a mature one that doesn't fuel his hateful fire.  Don't lower yourself to his level, you're much better than that.

Posted By: RoxanneHeartNYC
Okay, I usually just ignore but I wonder how do people both hobbyist and providers deal with hate mail? I know I'm not the only one that gets them (Although I'm flattered because literally people are taking time to call me this or not including racist remarks) I'm just curious how do you deal with hate mail? Do you report it, answer it back or ignore it?

You would think a society would progress beyond such ignorance, but that's not the case. The problem is, we're not getting smarter, we're getting dumber. Whenever some type of derogatory comment comes my way, and it can happen right here on the general boards, I make a mental note of the sender. I may or may not make a comment in response, but after that one instance of disparagement, that handle no longer carries any weight, nor has any value. I refuse to read anything they write in the future. It doesn't matter if it pertains to me or not. They no longer have a voice.

GaGambler322 reads

If I did, I wouldn't have anyone left to talk to.

I have posted many things "disparaging" to Roxy, but we get along just fine. Come to think of it, I am pretty sure I have said at least a couple of unkind words to you too. Does that mean you have me on permanent ignore?

and I don't think Roxy is talking about being slammed on the public board, I think she is getting some "personalized" hate mail disparaging her for her race, her looks and any other hurtful thing the sender thinks he/she can use to hurt her. That kind of hate mail usually comes from a coward, too afraid for his/her comments to be made in the light of day. Ignoring a person like that is probably not a bad idea, but toying with them like a cat with a cowardly mouse works for me sometimes as well.

Don't wrestle with pigs,  the pig likes it and you both get dirty.

First of all, this jackass that sent you this hate mail has terrible taste, IMHO. To each his own, but I adore both Latinas (especially Dominicans) and curvaceous women in general, and Roxanne, you in particular seem like quite a catch.  

Beyond that, I would suggest that you not waste any further time or effort on this fool and just ignore the message, and only report or block him if he continues to send you hate mail. What would you hope to accomplish and gain for yourself by reacting? IMHO, the only thing that you might have to gain would be some possible entertainment at his expense by messing around with him, as some other contributors to this thread have suggested. If that is not your cup of tea, then you can probably make better use of your time and energy by ignoring him and focusing instead on those that will appreciate you.

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