critical and basic.  It is never acceptable to make a mistake with the envelope.  That is common knowledge and a legitimate expectation.  That said, I have an interesting personal situation.  I don't want to make this more complicated than it needs to be, but I want to solicit and understand other perspectives.  Here is my situation:

Sorry only saw the first part of the question and not the follow through.  You're being a bit too true to your name and  over thinking this.  Go with the rate that you first saw her/screened under.  Others on here are going to disagree with the multiple rate structures, but noticing she has a P411 discount after the set up and asking for it is a bit tacky to me.  If you didn't find her that way, then why ask for the discount?  If you are happy with the service you received, you can always tip her. However, it would be poor form to ask for a refund if you paid the higher rate, did not like the service, and used her divergent rate structures as a reason to request it.

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My advice is to send a pleasant e-mail, saying that you are confused, stating why, and asking what the correct rate is.

That certainly would not be my default option.  
I would say the p411 option is the most accurate. I am not just saying that because I am a cheap bastard trying to get the lowest rate. I am saying it because the provider has control of her p411 profile and she is in charge of what's on there.  

This is her problem, not yours, so just ask. She may not even realize that she is advertising disparate rates.

....IF she is offended move on and consider yourself lucky. You just dodged a flake.

I fucked up, with a lady whom I wanted to see many times.

Tactfully explain the reason for the confusion (a very legitimate reason) and ask for the rate.

That some reviewers on TER that set up the initial profile for a provider will put how much they paid rather than what the girl's advertised rate is, so the tip is included.  Unless someone corrects it (and the girl has no incentive to do it), I'm guessing many guys seeing the girl will just pay what it says on TER.  I would caution against discussing rates with a provider prior to the first appointment.  That makes you look like LE, and is the point where the girl may stop talking to you.  My suggestion is to go with the rate that is on her OWN website.  If she doesn't have one, then go with a rate posted in a CURRENT ad on CV or some other advertising site.    

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Ask. Something like this happened to me twice. I didn't end up seeing them (not because of rate confusion)

fucked up.  Since you are a repeat client, there is no reason why she would not discuss/clarify the rate for you.  Perhaps when she first told you about the $500 rate, you could have asked her at what point someone is considered a "repeat" client.  I have done that when I was told a better rate for multiple hours, where I will generally phrase it "How often to I need to see you to qualify for that rate?"  Then she can put more limitations if she wants and If I'm not good with it, I can pay the posted rate and pass on the discount.

And with a much higher incidence when the rent is due...followed closely by the car payment...and then the other assorted bills that are late.

Because I usually see girls only on business trips, I don't typically have envelopes handy. So I usually just put the wad of cash someplace where they can see. Is that a huge faux pas?

Misunderstanding, but these three websites for you list 3 different rates for your time. Can you please tell me which one is correct? Thanks.  

I dunno about sending an e-mail inquiring about the rate (aka #4) if you have never seen her before.  As others have suggested, you might scare her off.  I suspect that after you hit the send button you might hear, well, nothing ... chirp, chirp, chirp.  Time waster.  Especially if she is high end, which seems to be the case.  I would love to hear from the ladies on this one.  No pussy for you.  

And if you know the answer to the question before you ask it, then don't ask it.  No upside, all downside.  If you send that e-mail, then, chirp, chirp, chirp ... no pussy for you.

Here is the proper answer for anyone who actually works for their money.  

You are assuming that he has a P411 account.  And if he doesn't that he will be able to get one in time to book her.

and it seems that I was quite clear that I did not get that second session, because I asked about the rate which she told me in person, instead of just paying the rate she posted, thus I hadn't yet made it to repeat client status.

Didn't I say the same thing as you (as usual)?

and that competition is even more hotly contested than SPOTY, with a lot of crossover of course.

You should have said, in your initial contact, 'Hey, I saw your ad on P412, let's get together." Now you have to go with default 1. Asking about pricing is risky business, even if she has three different ones.

I always say you should never discuss rates along with sex acts, and you shouldn't discuss rates when a providers rates are very clear. However if she has different rates all over the place, then It is far better to ask her what her current 1 hr (2 hr, etc.) rate is, or better yet to ask if the rate on abc site is the correct rate, than it is to show up with the wrong amount bevauseyou made an assumption.  

I knew a provider who had a published rate of 400 for 1 hour, 500 for 2 hrs, and 1000 for 12 hours. (Overnight or all day) why? She enjoyed longer dates. Whatever she had to do to prep for the 1 hr date is the same she does for the 2 hr date.

Since the OP is the one who brought up that he saw her rate on p411, it's not a bad assumption to make that he is a p411 member.  Non members can see some profiles on p411 but many are blocked, and I would think since the OP brought up the p411 rate, that he probably  is a member.
Secondly, he mentioned on a post on the newbie board a few weeks ago that he was joining p411.

There was a third option, besides paying the posted rate or asking before the session. Put the amount you spoke about in person in the envelope but bring the full amount with you just in case. Then ask in person if you had the discount right. That way she won't just blow you off, at least. I've done it that way before.  

The OP is using "envelope" to mean the rate you pay. Envelopes aren't critical, generally speaking, though some girls are particular.

I always confirmed the rate, because I was paranoid. I don't do that anymore, but I feel free to ask if there's any confusion. Not once have I ever been turned down or ignored after asking.

when she told you about the $500 even though you were not yet a "repeat" customer?  If that's the case, yes, you blew it, because she was telling you to come back and get the $500 rather than saying it was a discount for THAT session.  

I find it more appropriate to leave what I'm sure is the correct and acceptable amount. I also have money in my pocket.  

Why didn't you just go by her 2 hour $700 on the website? You said that she said for repeat clients it's $500 an hour for two hours. That's a grand! I would have said eff that! I will give the $700 for 2 hours as her website says! I do not see why this was a problem and I certainly would not have asked! It seems that repeat clients are being taken lol in the good way and bad way lol!

Why even make a possible misunderstanding with her by not letting her know ahead of time which rate you are going by? She may get mad if she thought you were paying a certain rate and then opens it up later to see less with a printout.

I would choose the safest, the highest. But that's on me. Each woman is different when it comes to discussing rates. Tread softly. If a provider chooses to talk to you when screening, it may be an opportunity dependent on the chemistry and rapport you develop on the call to get clarification.  

But until now I didn't post on this thread because the OP was so fucking stupid.  So there's that.

Somehow, no matter how BSC a hooker acts, they still manage to find a way to blame themselves.

but I'll lay a thousand to one the OP is still stupid.

I don't give a fuck what you or anyone else thinks about me, nor do I give a fuck about your meaningless labels.

If you're not going to bother reading the post, kindly don't reply, it illustrates how unintelligent you are.

I see I hit a nerve, which I assume means you know I am right.

I could not care any less about such nonsense, it makes me no more money, contributes nothing to my life, liberty or happiness. So, it's as useless to me as tits on a bull.

A) since she has 3 different rates advertised she's clearly an idiot and I wouldn't go near her

I was just giving you a chance to adopt my version and look a little less stupid about how you handled it.  It shows you no good deed goes unpunished.  With 70+ reviews, you shouldn't be making rookie mistakes.  Of course, you're averaging about one new girl a month over the life of your review history, so at that volume maybe you're forgetting how to do things since the last girl?

When making an appointment, I always ask her to confirm the lowest rate I see posted!  She will correct me if it is wrong, and if I don't like the answer I can always cancel saying, sorry your rate posted on xyz was $X, I thought it was accurate.  Who can blame a horny hobbyist for trying to stretch his dollars?

There are many things I've thought you were or weren't over the years GaG, but I was reasonably sure that you were pragmatic, evidently I was wrong.

P411 requires providers to have their lowest rates advertised on there. Not saying everyone does, but I am saying what the rule is and it is to be current.