Seems every time I post a review...and I've only posted a couple...I've had irate providers after me.  Had a review posted last night and now she keeps calling me--I assume to give me crap for giving her what I thought was a good score.  

Ladies, what's your problem?  How is a 7, 8 or 9 bad?  Is your ego really so fucking huge that you have to lash out at anyone that doesn't think you're the greatest ever?  Nobody's perfect--deal with it and you'll be far happier.

My suggestion is that you post messages like this under your real name, and that allows your reviews to be accessible.  Friendly folks could then look at your reviews vs. others, and determine if the ladies really had a beef.  

Without that, it's just a rant.  And ranting is good sometimes, just not as productive as comparative data.

I read his review.  It was not a bad one (7-8) which was very comparable to the dozen or so othr reviews.  she had.  It obviously upset her, because she emailed us asking to take ALL of her reviews down.

What do you guys think about a provider who wants to be removed from TER because of a 7-8 review?

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I think perhaps she's wound a bit to tight. I've seen tons of reviews equal to that, and have been with a couple ladys that had those numbers and really enjoyed myself. They seem like respectable averages to me, but maybe i just don't expect to much. lol.

If a provider wants to be removed from TER because she received a 7-8 review, by all means follow her wishes and remove her.  She will lose the best advertising she could have gotten, a just reward for her stupidity.

She'll learn that the only thing worse than people talking about her, is people NOT talking about her.

providers who ask to have their reviews taken off TER should, IMHO, have some sort of notice attached to their listings (if indeed these listings stay on TER, i admit i don't know). perhaps saying something like "reviews removed at provider's request"

otherwise, providers have the power to hide a disappointing track record and pull a fast one on unsuspecting newcomers who don't know any better. i'm not a lawyer (thank god!) but it seems to me that if they object to TER keeping such a database they're not entirely within their rights, unless of course we hobbyists have the same right (to pull our reviews) do we? i highly doubt it. and if not, then why should they?. anyway there's nothing to prevent hobbyists keeping a list of such providers on their own.

it can become all too easy for malicious providers with duplicitous intent to go into "silent running" mode and hide their past history and continue to prowl the deep for targets of opportunity

the only exception that makes sense to me is if a provider retires or is no longer using TER as an advertising tool

my $0.02

6:  Thou shalt never see a provider with fewer than 3 reviews, unless it's a direct referral from someone you trust.

Seeing that she had her reviews pulled, she obviously doesn't have 3 reviews on TER thus she doesn't deserve consideration.

I generally look at a 7, 8 or 9 performance rating as only a subjective difference between reviewers.  Basically they're all good reviews.  I know some guys won't rvrn consider a gal who has less than 10 reviews with an 8+ average.

TER is IMHO the best tool of it's kind on the net.  It has some faults, but we aren't perfect.  I learned never to see a provider who is not well-reviewed here.  If she thinks an average of 7+ over 12 reviews is bad for her business, she better get a day job.

If she wants to go, let her.  She's not B&S, nor is she ROB with reviews like that. It's her choice.

If she had a RIP-OFF label, or consistently poor reviews, I would be upset if TER let that go.

go gettm man! 7-10 is real good in my opinion...

don't take no crap!

The problem inherent in the ratings is that they are completely subjective.  A 9 or 10 to one person may be a 7 or 8 to another.  That is why the "top 20" ratings are often unfair.  Need to read the details to determine if the rating is valid or an example of "grade inflation."

Darlin,

Please do not give in. reviews are vital to this site and for those ladies who use them in their advertising.

I personally have always been ranked a 7 in looks...(I think it's my big thighs...LOL) but have varied performance scores of 7, 8 or 9 and I actually got a 10 once *smiles*

Personally I think ladies who Always get 9's and 10's across the board seem a bit suspect. I mean 3 years in the industry and I found it hard to be Everything to Everybody. I know there are ladies out there that can be..but dayum. There is one lady in vegas who gets 10's most of the time. but she does have a 5 and a 6 and 7 thrown in there too. I respect her for leaving those up. She obviously knows that her reviews show her to be a "real" person. I was never ashamed of my low scores. It did make me feel as though I could have done something to make my gent happier. So I truly worked on what some thought to be my downfalls.

My low scores showed gents who read them that I was not mechanical. It showed that I was varied in my tastes and activities and it wasn't a put on show. Sometimes we clicked, sometimes we did not. Thats all part of the fantasy.

If she is unhappy with between a 7 and a 9 then so be it. If every provider on TER got those scores All the time, the site would be worthless. I would much rather have alot of varied scores than high ranks all the time. Those kinds of numbers are really hard to live up to.

Keep posting reviews doll. Thats what this site is about. Sharing information. If she doesnt like it, then don't see her again and move on. If you didn't slam her or post lies or out her in any way, then the reviews should stand as they are. None of us are perfect and those who think they are...really need to take a long look at themselves.

Seems to me there are certain providers who vest so much of their self worth on the reviews and may also have inflated views of themselves as to looks, performance, etc.  

Looking at the reviews that I have written I was surprised to see that I am not generous in giving out 8s and 9s.  I thought that I was being a hard ass subconciously, but after experiencing providers in another (unnamed) city - their looks AND performance warranted the 8s,9s and a 10 that I rated.  So stick to your guns guys!  

Let the delusional providers figure it out - all they need to do is read what the women who consistently get 8-10s in performance do with a client and compare that with what they do with their clients - Very fucking simple!

All providers would love to have constant 9's and 10's, but that just isn't possible except for the superstars who are truly beautiful centerfold types with good attitudes and performance. I say kudos to them. They are very rare.

Now, the rest of us non centerfold girls will have to put up with the occasional bad review, because it's impossible to treat every client equally  every single day (although I really do try).

We girls all have bad hair days, fights with boyfriends, PMS, whatever, LOL--then you throw in an unappealing client (maybe someone with heavy smoke breath and you hate smoking, for example)--then you end up with a less than stellar session and the client writes about it.

Since most people know to throw out the occasional bad review, I'd tell the provider to just sit tight for a few days before she makes the decision to have ALL her reviews pulled. TER is such a good advertising source for many of us--I'd hate to see her lose money based on emotions.

I'd tell her to let some time go by, continue to provide quality sessions, hold her head high and then some better reviews will come in. Before you know it, all the bad feelings will be gone.

Well, I can certainly understand how you must feel, especially when you feel you've done well, and have been right in line with the other reviews. Wow, you even got Staff to back you on that one!
Don't allow the actions of others to influence you. Keep on keeping on, as the saying goes..
I don't know her, or the circumstances, or her reasoning. Most of my gents don't write reviews, and that's fine. And I am happy with the ones I have.
I wish I could remember somthing that Celtic Lass posted, but I'm in accordance..for those 2, 3, 5 hours, whatever, that he spent with me, he chose ME..and that alone did more for me than any number you can assign to it!

Hugs and kisses,
Sedona

Members often take a pass on ladies with no reviews.  Too much risk.

Staff--I'm generally opposed to the idea of providers being able to pull their reviews, except under really extenuating circumstances.  I know that TER wants to be fair, but c'mon...  I own a business and I can't choose not to insulate myself from the BBB, and I can't opt-out of oversight by the state attorney general's office.

It tarnishes the value of a review system when the reviewed parties ultimately have a veto vote over whether a review stands or not.  I appreciate TER's attempts to be friendly with the providers--hey, they make this whole industry possible.

But to be honest, I pay the freight here.  I pay dues to have this resource available, and as a customer, a business ultimately has to represent MY interests, not the other party's.  Review systems by their nature feel unfair to the reviewed party, but it's not about the reviewed parties...  Review systems exist to benefit the reviewers.  I'm not paying for justice, I'm paying for untampered reviews.

Seems to me that the best answer was in Squid Vicious' original post. "Is your ego really so fucking huge that you have to lash out at anyone that doesn't think you're the greatest ever?"  Anything I might have added was already said in ybjblman's post.  So that's what I think of such a provider.

Wasn't there a provider in LA who demanded that a 7 review of her be removed as "slander"?  Uh, yeah, and I remember who it was but I'm being discreet.

I doubt she understands the consequences of her request.

Three issues here IMHO
  #1  Thank GOD we don't get reviewed or you would be hearing a whole differt thread here.  What would the majority of us getting 5 and 6's say.
  #2  I think one of the problems is that many guys feel they have to give 9 or 10 reviews to get the free time.  Under TER guide lines of rating we all know what is expected of the provider to get a ten. I've been with really sweet, wonderful women that totally rock my boat but wouldn't do all of what may be necessary to get a TER 10.  But in any other realm would be a real TEN.
 Sometimes self-respect is more imortant then the rating.
  #3  We still have a huge problem with bogus reviews.  A few days ago I contacted a girl on Phx. EROS that had not been reviewed, a requirement of mine to date. But before I got to see her a review came up.  I private mailed the reviewer and got his honest opinion.  She could not have gotten more than an 8 on TER no matter how great she was, becuase of her limitations of some activities, at least on the first date.  But the guy was in love with her.  Best he had ever been with bar none.  That is a 10 in my book.  But the real problem was that he e-mailed me and said before I saw her I better read the latest reviews, there was another review posted.  This reviewer got the whole deal, everything the first guy didn't.  Only one big problem, I was in e-mail contact with this girl and I truly believe her, THE SECOND REVIEW NEVER HAPPEND. So what are the reviews worth?  Sometimes I think they stroke the ego of the reviewer more than give a valid report of the session.

IMHO

SlowStart

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My understanding of TER policy has been that a lady other than a rip off was free to demand that all of her reviews be removed from the database at any time and her wish would be granted.  She was not free to demand that one review that she did not like be removed unless she could prove that it was bogus to the satisfaction of staff.  If this lady wants all her reviews removed then grant her wishes.  It will be her lost.  If my understanding of policy is not correct then hopefully staff will correct me.

If she's LA based, let me take just one stab at who this might be...

of her 7-8 TER review rating.(funny, I'm using the same heading as my last post down below three discussions)....

I mean as everybody knows especially Moses and except of course,most likely this provider in question,there was only one person who ever walked on water.

....make that 2, lol, I'm forgetting Jim Carey.
Cheers!

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Everyone needs to remember here that "WE" the hobbiest are the buyer ... and should be able to have access to as much information on a provider until we feel comfortable about seeing that provider...... Far too many of us that write reviews are way too easy on providers ... we don't want to hurt their feelings ... maybe she shouldn't be in the business to begin with ........

you are going to have people complain no matter what you do.

If you gave me a 6-9 I would be satisfied, but between you and me, my services are worth an 11!!! - LOL

Shaye

Am I the only one bothered by this?  

Providers should not call clients about reviews, EVER (unless you both have a close enough relationship that you phone each other regularly).  It is an egregious violation of the code of discretion in this business.

....& I happen to value mine greatly.  I won't say it if it isn't true & whatever my ratings scores are happen to be my honest opinion...& it'll always be that way!  I wouldn't want a damn thing to do with a gal who tried in any way to coerce something different from me, regardless of how or why she did it---frankly at that point I wouldn't give a shit what her reasons were.  

So stand by your guns, Squid...& don't let crap like that stop you from writing reviews.  We need honest opinions to make the whole process worthwhile.  

I read the bad reviews, because I like to know what NOT to do. Otherwise, I  just be me

It's not clear from your post whether the provider was upset at the score of 7/8 or at SOMETHING ELSE in the review.  Such as too much details etc...

Finding out what exactly upset her is important and it makes a world of difference.  If she's upset at the score then I agree with everyone that she is being immature and her request should be ignored.  After all it is your subjective rating of your experience with her.  If on the other hand she has a legitimate beef such a lack of discretion about her services or her identity then it's a different story.

One more thing, you should probably keep your TER identity more private and delay posting your reviews a bit so that providers cannot figure out it's you and contact you to complain.  If they have a legitimate beef they should contact TER directly.  IMHO they have been more than fair in addressing legitimate issues.  I agree with the people who said she should not be calling you.  Unless of course you forgot to pay her or short-changed her or something like that.

My guess is that this is somebody starting out who is trying to artificially get stellar ratings so they can charge astronomical rates.  It has nothing to do with ego.  It's all about the Benjamins.  But that's just me being cynical.  On a less cynical note maybe she read you were dissatisfied with some aspects of her performance and wants to make it up to you.  Yeah, keep dreaming!

As for pulling all her reviews, I vote no.  Unless there is a valid reason that cannot be addressed by editing the review text (not the score).

If you allow a provider to have her reviews pulled because she got a 7/8 what about one who got a 2 or a 1?  Should they be allowed to have their reviews pulled?  I don't think so.

Personally I'm suspicious of providers who get nothing but 9s and 10s.  Nobody is that good or that consistent.  Nobody can be all things to all people.  All 9s and 10s tells me the provider is better at marketing herself than at her profession.

I think it's a mistake by the provider. First, most clients recognize that event the best don't always do their best. Secondly, clients do not all review on the same scale. I would not avoid seeing a provider based on a bad review if her overall review is good. I have seen gals that have all 7-7 reviews. I don't think 7-7 is bad. If I like the pics and they are honest pics then someone else's seven is not mine. I love older gals and perhaps rate their looks higher than other cients. I worry more about someone I cannot read anything about than someone who has a bad review or two.