And this is one of the many reasons why you’re a gem.
This is for the Providers.
Let's say you have a regular that sees you on average 2x/ week for 2 hrs each visit.
Would you bump in existing appointment (new or existing client) to see this highly profitable client when he calls or do you make this high regular reschedule because you're already booked and possibly jeopardize that good cash flow?
Deposit?
My ATF I never would second guess.
I jump up for who values my time.
This is where providers either admit or deny their unprofessionalism. IMO, it’s a bad business move to bump the new client. Your regular is likely a good client and will work with you if you’re booked. And, they’re already your regular. Why lose a new client who could be a future regular?
It seems like it happens all the time.
It seems like 50 percent of the time I book a new provider, they end up cancelling day of or day before. On the other hand, once I have seen a provider, they always show up and I can request a booking with very little notice.
I have had it happen a few times, but 50% is wild. I had one who I was a repeat client who did it twice. After that, I was out and she lost a client who was hooked on her. Only reason I gave her a second chance is because I had already seen her and she was amazing. But if I hadn’t seen her, I would be less forgiving the first time. I don’t have a tolerance for BS.
I am curious...are these women who cancel that often with you providers with well established track records as professionals or are you taking some extra risk by attempting to see less verifiably sound women? Not blaming you at all, of course, as they should not be cancelling that often no matter what. I am just asking to get a better sense of what may be going on.
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I would also be interested in hearing how many we are talking about. As an example, if it were 2 out of 4, that would obviously be 50% but that would be an extremely small sample size as compared to say, 20 out of the last 40 women you attempted to see.
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Either way, I am sorry to hear this, as I know late cancellations can be extremely disappointing.
A lot of the recent cancellations have come from girls that work through a common booker. They are all very highly rated. One of them was actually top 10 in the city. One had car problems, another was sick, and another had family that overstayed their welcome.
I think these providers are in high demand so they probably get longer or repeat bookings that they would rather take than a 1 hour with a new client that lives on the outer edge of the city.
I usually don't give someone a second chance if they cancel last minute.
I haven't had an issue with anyone cancelling if I have already seen them once.
that should be as obvious as a boner in a bikini. Regulars are the lifeblood of this business, and while I, too, have had my share of 2 two-hour sessions a week with my regulars, it's narcissistic to think that there are not customers out there that hobby in terms of days or weekends (or longer) rather than hours. When one of these deep-pocket pussy-lovers wants to see a girl for a weekend or all day, if it's the same day with the same girl I have booked for two hours, I know I'm likely to get bumped so she can get the big score. It's part of the reality of this business, so no need to feel sorry for yourself, or to think you are being singled out for disrespect. IMO opinion, it has nothing to do with integrity, or professionalism, it's only about the reality of the circumstances.
I found myself on the other side of the coin when I would call an agency booker and ask for a same day appointment, and he would tell me to give him 20 minutes. He would call me back and tell me I had the appointment. After this happened with multiple agency bookers, I realized they were calling the girl and asking her whether she wants to see me or the guy who was already booked. I told one that if he was bumping another customer to fit me in, I will withdraw my request and reschedule, but he said this girl told him months ago to ALWAYS give my booking priority and move the other customer. This request from the girl to her booker held up for a few months until she got a request for a weekend, which got me bumped. I did not complain because every businessperson has an obligation to the business to maximize revenues whenever they can.
Depending on how popular the girl is, 2h x twice a week, SHOULD get you an appointment when you want it on most occasions, but don't blame the girl for wanting to get the biggest hit possible from a customer willing to pay for more time. I had one instance where I was bumped and asked the booker how long the guy booked. He said it was the entire weekend but then added if I wanted to match the weekend booking of the other guy at $5000, he was sure he could steer her back to me. I said, "No, thank you" . . . . because I'm a realist when it comes to business, and that's a part of my success.
Very well articulated....
Just keeping it real. I'm NOT one of the simps here that need a cuddly bedtime story about how this business works. Lol
It's telling that the OP has not jettisoned this girl that he has been seeing regularly even though she is choosing to take the bigger players when there is a scheduling conflict. Even the guy booking weekends that bumped HIM has this risk when a new guy shows up who wants to book an entire week for $20,000+. How many providers do you think would actually turn down a one-week engagement because they already booked a regular for three or four hours in the middle of the week? It stretches the limits of credibility to say a booking is always a booking and they would never cancel a regular for a date with a guy who could change their life for the better. "Let some other girl take the $20,000+, I'm sticking with my regular guy who does 4 hours a week with me."
I always get along better with ladies who don't try to blow smoke up my ass about how special I am compared to their other customers. As long as they show me the same respect I show them during the session, I'm good.
I don’t understand. I’m not making the regular reschedule if he didn’t have an appointment. I’m certainly not bumping a booked, confirmed client.
My regulars schedule well in advance and thus have my time reserved for them.
And this is one of the many reasons why you’re a gem.
You do the right thing over the more convenient, more profitable one. You are a person of your word and good for you! You are a professional in every good sense of the word. 
That's what I would expect. Even as the regular.
"I'm so sorry. I really want to see you but I'm not available at that time. Here's when I can take care of you....."
Most men would expect that when you set up a date with them, barring an emergency, you will keep the date. However, when running a business, it's impractical to state your policies in absolutes because then you look even worse when a situation arises where you need to contradict what you have previously posted. If you have a regular who booked well in advance and you stand to earn $1000 for the session, and then a whale shows up and wants to take you to Vegas for 5 days and will pay you $20,000 with half up front as a deposit, you should be prepared to go back on your policy of NEVER bumping anyone under any circumstances, so it's better to not ever publish this policy like you have just done. If your regular doesn't understand the impact of an opportunity like this, and that you MUST take advantage of it, then you don't have the connection you thought you did. How good will you feel if you lose $19,000 on your choice?
Well, first of all, this would never happen because I have a full time civilian job. Travel needs to be planned well in advance and would never last longer than two days. And because I book weeks in advance, a last minute weekend request would almost certainly not pay more than the multi-hour dates I would already have scheduled.
Second, I absolutely have told inquirers that the weekend they were asking about wasn’t available due to prior commitments, but I could see them at a later time.
Third, I didn’t say “Never.” I am always describing my general practices. If I had a booking a month out with someone who sees me occasionally but I know has flexibility, and I got a huge offer, sure, I would probably be like, “hey, Jim, can we meet on Wednesday instead of Monday?” But I would not do what OP asked about, which is bump a scheduled appointment *on the day of*, with an hour or two’s notice, because a regular with an unpredictable schedule suddenly had some free time.
You posted this further up the thread . . . . .
"I’m certainly not bumping a booked, confirmed client."
This sounds a lot like "never" to me. However, since you mention for the first time that you are only a part-time provider and getting a one-week booking is out of the question due to your civvie job, my point about being open to giving priority to one-week engagement is moot for you.
but what if someone says i need someone on my arm for a one week trip to paris or vegas, and is ready to pay your full rate with a 50% deposit as someone said above?
would you bump the booked client then?
Did she tell you that you're her #1 source of income or is that your fantasy?
It appears that you didn't book an appointment and your feelings are hurt because she didn't cancel a confirmed appointment to fit your schedule.
She obviously doesn't NEED your business and most likely doesn't WANT your neediness.
Or, does she think no matter how I treat him he will always come back. Btw - based on the frequency of meetings, a rough estimate is that he is a 75K/year client. Don't know too many providers that wouldn't move things around to accommodate such a valuable client. My experience is that almost all would.
Yes, I am the 2x client.
I asked for an appointment and then she proceeded to tell me that she was booked but said she would text me back in 10 minutes.
She texted back and said that she is now free to see me.
I posted this question to see if this was just some Hooker 101 stuff that they have learned or was showing me that she valued our arrangement.
Based on the comments, she values our arrangement and now I will spend more money on her! 😘
That’s how it works. Money talks bullshit walks in this industry.
Did she tell you what she did? Might be that rather than completely bumping the other client she asked if another time slot might also work.
I know a lot of people have tight schedules but I cannot be the only person that pretty much has complete control of their day and can easily move an appointment time.
I don't think anyone disputes that business is about maximizing profits and for most that means long-term profits, not quick gains that end up costing in terms of future business. So, sure if she can keep you happy that would probably make financial sense here. Any business will consider the revenue stream a customer generates in terms of how they prioritize the business.
But also, no business wants to have it's survival depend on just one customer so will want to diversify as much as possible (which means not having a reputation for setting appointments and then not honoring them). It's not clear just how far that "value" as a top customers goes so I would not take it personally like you seem to be doing. You also might be setting yourself up for her starting to play you on this by letting you think she has something else booked but then rearranged for you to get you to spend even more. If you're happy with that arrangement she certainly would be.
First, a 'regular' client that I was seeing consistently would likely have a regular time if we were at that level of twice weekly visits. So no one would ever be bumped for another...
Secondly, if there were an opportunity to see someone new during that same day/time and the requested date were going to be much longer, which equals more lucrative, I personally would be honest with my 'regular'. With him being my 'regular' we already have an honest rapport & friendship & he would likely want to move our time because he respects me. As close as we may be, he would understand that at the end of the day this is still about business. That being said, if he was unable to move his time that week for whatever reason, I would honor our connection and especially his loyalty and I would pass on the longer date. Honesty goes a long way I think & I try my best to act in ways I'm proud of. No judgment at all for anyone who makes different choices, but this is just me.
I can respect what you said.
But I don't have a regular time slot because my career doesn't have regular hours.
I call her when I'm available and she is usually ready to see me within 30 minutes from 8am - 11pm!
That's why I keep money flowing her way and not just with appointments. I get her gifts, clothes ,groceries we have lunch and dinner together, etc.
I don't think it's reasonable to expect any business to provide that type of exclusionary preference unless you've already come to some agreement that such actions are part of the agreement -- and ideally that the provider makes her other customers aware that nothing is confirmed (at least up to some period prior to the appointment, be it 12 hours or 10 minuets). I suspect that would drive a bit of business away thought. Plus, if you're looking for that you should expect to be paying some retainer fee to ensure that she has a good incentive to make such accommodations and accept the risk of potentially lost income.
I think expecting the rest of the world to dance to your tune is pretty silly.
I have a long time regular friend who is very busy because he's the boss and runs a huge business. I will jump up for this man anytime day, or night. Some people can't be treated as everyone else. Priority.
I would never cancel a booking, or priority prepaid date for him because I believe in honoring a commitment. First come first served principle. Professionalism. Prioritizing appointments.
And this is why even though we don't agree on everything, I still like you and would expect nothing less than a good time with you. The person you are and how you treat your clients is likely to show in your sessions. Vibes, IMO, have a ton to do with how good a session is. A provider who will chase a payday at any expense, aka dismissing the value of another client because it's not as big of a payday, is less likely to be a naturally warm person. And, I can usually tell the difference. The most successful ladies understand they are building a brand, not just chasing singular paydays.
I once had a lady ask. I wasn’t able to and told her no worries just get the bigger pay day and maybe I would see her some other time. She wrote back and said, not a chance we’re still on. He will need to work around it because I confirmed the appointment with you first. I saw her three more times and I rarely repeat. But she was worth it. I would have seen her more, but she moved.
…because some bigshot regular needed a cut fast with the person i booked so they passed me off to someone else….
to their credit, this lesser person was half the price and did a great job so they kept me as a customer, but i was still a bit peeved that some delusional rich asshole who was almost totally bald but needed “a trim” got priority over me…lol
So there appears to be a pretty rigid binary: honor the booking or take the money. I think there's a third option that works.
Something i've noticed is that the best regular clients actually want the business to do well. They want longevity because they want to keep seeing you for as long as you decide to be here. So when a conflict comes up, they're usually the first to say take it, we'll figure it out. Personally, I take that seriously and I will move heaven and earth to make something work, especially for a regular. I've rearranged my own schedule and shifted flights. I do my damnedest but that goodwill runs both directions and it's worth protecting.
When I genuinely need to move someone, regardless of if they're new or returning, who's already confirmed, I don't just reschedule. I make it worth absorbing. Rates are rate but maybe I can throw in some extra time, or have his favorite bottle of bourbon open when he arrives, curate a fantasy he's mentioned that we actually build around. Something that acknowledges the inconvenience is real without making the resolution feel transactional.
The part of this thread that interests me more than the logistics question is what consistent loyalty actually earns on both sides. But also worth mentioning... if someone is seeing a provider twice a week at two hours, the more interesting question is why hasn't that conversation shifted toward an arrangement? That's the structure that actually solves the scheduling problem. That way the client gets prioritized by design, and the provider has consistent and known revenue. He might need to be a little more intentional with his schedule, but that's a reasonable trade for guaranteed availability.
The "on demand" with almost no notice expectation is what creates the friction here and an arrangement removes most of it. The clients who genuinely want you to succeed are usually the easiest to reschedule. The ones who treat frequency as ownership are usually the hardest. The gap tells you something about the actual relationship underneath the arrangement.
compromise. I have had a few regulars add some OTC time when they had to reschedule. I can vouch that it mitigates any awkwardness over the cancellation/bump.
However, I encourage my regulars to prioritize opportunities and money over anything else. Inexperienced customers often want to keep a girl all to themselves. They don't help her with marketing or refer her to their hobby friends. Then one day she leaves town because she is not getting enough business. Many customers shoot themselves in the foot by not helping to promote business for their regulars.
The wealthier men that have the resources to book higher end gals on the fly as in, "My 10 o'clock just got canceled and I really want to see you this morning" type, probably are used to getting their way in all situations so the friction could also be from a bruised ego and hurt pride as I mentioned, not necessarily because they think they "own you."
Again, I am generalizing, but men (and women) at that level might expect pushback from people they consider their equals, but not from people they may deem lesser than them, like "how dare she not accommodate me!? I've put 100k in her pocket so far this year and she can't make this one concession for me?"
In my business career ..... "I sent you $5 million in business this year so cancel that fucking golf outing you had planned for tomorrow and finish that project by noon". Never had any pushback. So, yeah, if I was funding an escort at 100K/year I would expect special treatment.
.....but what guy is so rigid and inflexible about his sexy time that he won't work with a provider that says she can't keep their regular appointment that week because a new client wants to book an overnight that overlaps? I mean, he can't just say, "all good, we'll catch up next week" and book someone new or just pass that week? Is it a matter of pride and ego?
I could only really see it being an issue if the guy has caught feelings and is jealous...but what do i know - i'm just a broke loser....
Honestly, it depends how it goes down. I have had providers ask me in advance and we worked it out. Or, in some cases, I couldn't for one reason or another, and I just booked someone else. But I wasn't mad about it. Then, I have had providers text me two hours before our appointment and make up an excuse. Sometimes regulars, especially ones with big wallets, think they can call their ATF provider at the last minute and get whatever they want because they are spending big. And, some providers do bend over backwards for them. But as a client, I'm pissed when it's last minute. After spending all week thinking about it, and building up excitement the day of, I'm not okay with a last minute cancellation. If I do that to a provider she wants me to pay a penalty (possibly the whole fee) or she will blacklist me.
And she had a lifetime appointment with David so…Money talks
But here’s the deal, call it unprofessional or whatever… most ladies will grab the best deal at that time. If it means keeping a very solid regular happy over a first timer…then that first timer will eat it.
Hell, I’ve been bump before for that better paying date. Cool thing is, she was very upfront about it. She had a couple flying in for an all nighter. Tried to work another day/time.
One thing I figured out many moons ago… in my case.. is that I saw less last minute cancellation when I did the 2 hour meets. Just food for thought
But It’s all part of this game we play🤷🏻♂️
There's a balance. Kicking an appointment to the curb for an extra hour or two could cost more in the long run. That new customer could be a bigger whale and she will never know. It's not uncommon for a future whale to book an hour the first time to feel it out. And, most regulars are reasonable and not so demanding. Starting with asking them if they are flexible doesn't hurt. But hey, if we're talking an overnight or weekend and a very large payday, and that opportunity is not flexible, than sure. I have found in most cases loyal customers are more open to being flexible than new ones who have built no connection or devotion to a provider. Not as an escort, but in other customer facing businesses, I have found the customers who are not reasonable and are more demanding are usually the ones who I can live with out, and I would rather lose the business their money brings than to continue to bend over backwards for their demands. But that's just me. But like most things in life, I have my price.
I never saw Indecent Proposal, but I assumed correctly from reading your post that that was what you were describing and that those were the names of the characters.
