I had the good fortune of meeting a lady new to the providing game about 10 years ago.  She was going through a divorce and being outspent by her husband, who hired two attorneys to ruin her life, when we all know it only takes one.

As a result, she finds herself turning to escorting to make some money.  Even though she's been doing the wifey thing for about 8 years, she's a honest to goodness 10 (she used to get invited to the Playboy mansion parties etc.).  But I'll call her a 9 since most people would think I'm exaggerating.  I, on the other hand, am a fraction of a 9, perhaps a 9 turned upside down.

So it turns out I'm one of the first 3 or 4 guys she's seen as an escort and we only live a mile apart.  One thing leads to another, and we become friends with benefits for the next 5 years.  Here's where the problem is- she spent her married life fucking like a pissed-off wife, and she really didn't have the skills needed by a provider.  Add to that, like many other super hot women, she (sadly) didn't see the need to develop her skills.  After all, guys were almost ready to cum just looking at her beautiful face and figure, so where's the incentive?

My mistake was I became one of those guys.  At first I paid her for her bad performance in bed and was happy to be with such a beautiful woman.  Then I tolerated it when we became friends with benefits, and all of it was the worst sex of my life.  What I would suggest instead, is that each time you see her, you casually mention one (and only one) thing that you really like when someone does it to you.  It doesn't have to be anything more than "You know, one of my favorite things is when someone does it like this..."  

It will require patience and investment in time because it will take time for her to change her ways.  But if you think she's worth it, and she's not totally indifferent, I'd give it a try.  When I was younger, I taught several women how to give both BJ's and HJ's and they were always willing to please.  One thing I know for certain, however, is if you do nothing, you'll have a lot more uninspired sex.  And based on my experience, that's no fun, no matter how beautiful she is or how much you like her.

So the mangina acid test is simple-  A real man will always take action to improve his situation, whereas a mangina will just be thankful to be with such an attractive lady.  I failed the mangina test, but I'm confident you can do better.

I have seen a lady today that is extremely attractive, and intelligent. I click almost instantly with her and she offered every service in the alphabet. Her prices are extremely reasonable. She seemed to really enjoy her time with me and when the time ended she invited me to stay longer and talk off the clock so she likes me as a human at least.

There is a problem though, while she offers a full menu and seems to enjoy it, she just is very not good at sex. Her BBBJ skills are the worse I have came across, she could not maintain any kind of pace during intercourse, and the hand job was lacking. I had to finish myself off as it was not happening.

This issue of her lacking the skills most ladies in this business have was made worse by the fact I am very shy in the sexual arena. I am lacking skills and confidence in the bedroom area myself and have a hard time giving instructions on sex. I have always let the lady take the lead and feel very uncomfortable taking control of bedroom play.

Now over all despite her lack of skills in sex, I still had one of the best experiences I have ever had in the hobby. She put me right at ease (not an easy task) and was very mentally stimulating. It was like hanging with a very good friend who happened to be very attractive and nude. Because of this part of me wants to try again and see if I can try to take control and have a better sexual experience. I am wanting to see her again if nothing more than a friend. I guess it is the mangina in me.

Has anyone else had a session like this? Ladies if you are not doing things the way the guy prefers how would you prefer that he tells you to do it a bit differently? I never had to instruct a lady in the bedroom area as all the ladies I have been with before today have all been extremely skilled in that area.

There's only room for ONE mangina on this board, and I'm it! Now you leave scoed alone or I'll hit you with my purse!

If there is enough connection between the two people, the experience can be transcendent even if nothing more than some minimal physical contact is made.

You yourself say that it was one of the best experiences you have had, so take joy in that.

In time, you two can begin in explore and find ways to improve the performance, but rejoice in the human connection you have now.

The former can always be improved, but the latter either is, or isn't, and is rare besides.

This is funny.  I have seen two providers who are absolute sexpots.  The problem is that when they do BBBJ they just cannot help but bite the shit out of me.  I have tried to warn, coach, caution, etc but they just cannot give blowjobs.  I have stopped seeing them  because of it.  The last time I saw one of the I was sore for a week.

Both my Exs fall in the category which you described, i.e, pissed off gorgeous house wives with lackluster sexual desire and performance (toward me anyway*, LOL) and unfortunately I was initially conditioned to be more accepting of the "uninspired" provider sex. Well, no more! I don't care as to how hot the provider may be, but if she is unable to deliver a very inspired performance both sexually and sensually, I would say arriverderci and many happy trails. Next!!!....

P.S. * any woman who says to you, "Honey I'm just not into sex and do not feel like it" must add these two words at the end of her sentence: "WITH YOU" It will keep matters honest and on the level

Last time I encountered an unskilled new girl, I actually told her it was the worst sex of my life.  At first she got pissed off, but then it drove her nuts.  She spent the rest of the summer harassing me to have sex with her.  Telling me about all her dates and what she did and how they loved it.  Insisting that she wasn't a bad prostitute and wanting to prove it.

Girls are crazy.  I never did have sex with her again.  Now we're just good friends.  But I still sometimes have to tell her that I don't want to hear about her sex.

I've not had bad sex with providers, but in civie life the absolute worst sex was with the prettiest women. Sorry, but tis true.

Of course, in civie life they were pretty shocked to have me tell them they were bad in bed so that didn't always work out well. Later I learned to be a bit more subtle.

Either way -- by all means, let her know. Bring her one of those books on how to give blow jobs.

I can relate. I don't really like having to instruct someone either. But, you say: "I am lacking skills and confidence in the bedroom area myself and have a hard time giving instructions on sex." Here's your chance to learn, in just the right environment to do so! 'Do you want to?' is the question.

Some of the hottest Providers I've had the pleasure of their company have not been the most "inspired."  It's great when you find both, but it's P4P, and delivery counts.

As a Provider, do you appreciate this kind of honesty, though or is it a major turn off?

But at the same time she has little of ability to choose for attractiveness and other key points of compatibly. Nor can she initiate contact with her clients. She basically sees who ever walks in the brothel with money, chooses her, treats her with respect and no visible signs of a STD. Yes she can refuse any client for any reason but if she does it to often her legal pimp will replace her. She cannot see any of her clients outside of the brothel.

I choose who, when, and where just not how long or how often. I can even choose to see more than one lady at a time. I can book a one paid session a week for no longer than two hours and can't see a lady for a paid session more than once every two months. All contact not paid for with providers must be strictly platonic. She also has veto power over who I see.

True she has veto power over who I see and I have no control over who her clients are, but she has never used her veto power. I am also allowed platonic off the clock time as friends with providers I have seen, as long as I introduce the lady to her. She can't see her clients outside of the brothel.

The only restrictions she places on the activities I engages in is no BBFS and no BB anal. The restriction on no DFK, no anal is restrictions placed on me by me not by my wife. She is not allowed BB anything by Nevada state law. Her menu is chosen in a large part by the brothel she works for. I choose the activities on my paid sessions based of the what the lady offers and I want to partake in. Her clients choose her activities based on the brothels menu. True she can refuse but again if it happens to often she will lose her bed at the brothel.

She to can see providers as a client but I must be invited to all sessions as a participant and she has all the restrictions I have. She can't see male providers. She has never seen a paid lady without it being a couples date. I can also see clients if I can find someone willing to pay me for sex.

Any of you ladies willing to pay me? Didn't think so.

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I will take your suggestion adding one thing at a time. The only problem is I am only allowed to repeat with a provider once every two months as per the agreement with my wife. It would take forever to get anywhere.

At least it didn't hurt as she sucked my dick.

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Very true but if your paying for a professional to do a job shouldn't she at least have a clue on how to do it. But strangely I still had a great time. Thanks for the reply.

It was strangely confidence building being the more skilled at sex than my partner for the first time in my life. After all, I know she had an orgasm, as the puddle on the table after I got done eating her out is had to fake. If you where lacking a skill in the sex department, how would you want to be told?

She was just clueless. She was animated but she didn't use her tongue at all during the BJ and her lips never got all the way to the top of my shaft, so she didn't stimulate head of my dick at all during oral. She was still enthusiastic though. She didn't know how to handle my large bulk during full service, but it was plain she was trying. She didn't lose points for lack of desire. It was almost like I was doing a virgin and I can be difficult do to health issues that affect my erection.