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P411 w/o reviews; trust her?
Keep an open mind 
Gambler seems to think she's legit
I usually followed the TER advise to stay safe, only see well reviewed providers.
I just started a P411 membership. I came across an ad for a lovely looking woman with no reviews. Is P411 strict enough to screen out LE?I don't know anything about this girl, but P411 does not allow girls without a personal recommendation from at least one established provider and one established hobbyist.
Low rate may be due to lack of reviews. You can also chat with "customer service" at P411 as they are very responsive to inquiries.
Good luck.
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an established, reviewed escort?
Check out where else she advertises, her website, maybe she has reviews on other boards, def google image her... See how many "Okays" she's given... There are many tools/ways to check to see if she's legit... Good luck...
I don't think it's possible for hobbyists to see how many "Okays" a provider has given. I sure wish I can see it. It certainly will make me feel safer.
I didn't know that.... From my end I can see the girls a hobbyists have seen & their okays... But other tools of the trade, def inquire via TER especially on the board in which state the girl is in...
I would pass on any gal where there was only a single 'hot' picture. I really want to see several pictures, from different angles, poses, props. Why? Because I have discovered one I was planning to see... using 2 pictures over & over. They were 10 years out of date. So I insist on an assortment of pictures which gives me confidence that they are real & current.
Lack of a web site or other info, gives me pause as well. Sure she could be a new gem... but being so new, there's no cred either. Lots of new gals give it a whirl but don't want to give the services expected.
Maybe escort got reviews on other webstes.I'm P411 without review.I'm not cop.
I'm on my shitty ass fucking phone and suddenly the piece of shit copy paste isn't working on this shitty ass browser for some god damn MFing reason, but here's one I found on her in LA, the page scrolls fast so you fucking fuckers have to dig the fuck around a fucking bit.
Also found a body rub place using her God damn photos. Gut feel tells me it's a fucking bait and switch but can dig the fuck around a bit fucking more once I'm in front of my god damn computer later.
http://losangeles.bposx.com/escorts/page/36
Fucking Fucker
P411 is a great site but dEF not foolproof. Cops have been on there busting providers. So be careful.
In terms of referrals, I had nothing when I signed up for P411, I'm trying to think how I got there, what the sign up process was, but I definitely was not recommended by anyone, I knew no one. I was asked if I had a site or some other presence, which I did have a site, but no presence. I don't necessarily think it's rocket science to get on something if you try.
My understanding of P411 entry is they require a provider to have reviews, or a recommendation from another P411 provider or hobbyist.
Went back to my records, I signed up for P411 at the end of July, at that moment I had exactly 1 review. But definitely no recommendations, just a TER ID and a site, no blog.
Hi Cosette. You actually had a review by an established reviewer, AND a P411 client member vouching for you, when you signed up.
I'm not saying it's rocket science for a provider to get on P411 either, but she does have to have a review posted by an established reviewer, OR a P411 client with at least 5 Okays to vouch for her before we'll approve the application. If a provider has that information, it's definitely not difficult at all.
I'm assuming he also vouched for me. I was fortunate, it was a seamless process.
There are millions of cases of guys that can't count , or drunk out of their mind , hitting a 12 and winning big time , when the dealer was holding 4, 5, or 6 . Not a good idea from my perspective , but I'm not using your money .
There are cases of four and five star restaurant patrons finding themselves with food poisoning .
There are cases of new unknown restaurants that some would call two stars , with much better food ,
kitchen cleanliness , and service , than some established , overrated five star restaurants .
There have been cases of TER reviewed providers and seasoned TER hobbyists , finding their own skin in trouble yesterday , cooperating with LE tomorrow , attempting to save themselves .
One of my best experiences by far , a provider with no reviews . She was brand new , working for an agency without a majority of excellent TER reviews .
One of my few turn around and walk away , a highly reviewed independent TER provider , with mostly nine and tens .
One of my best experiences was a provider from a site , little big boys would never use .
The best advice I can give you , stiffen your back bone , listen to your self , use your own mind .
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It's much safer when you have both, IMHO.
I am not going to contact this girl. I try not to meet someone with so little info available (pictures, reviews, web pages). I am a little OCD about who I try to meet researching carefully. "Shopping for my perfect provider is a big part of the hobby for me. I am still looking for my ideal experience with a provider, and this girl is not her.
I posted the question more as a philosophical one as I am new to P411.
She does appear to be quite legit, but I guess you will never know. Have a nice fucking day.
BTW, TER and P411 are not the only resources out there, they are two of the best, but far from the only way to check out a provider. My offer still stands though, if you want to know more about this lady you can contact me through PM
The 'perfect provider' for you or anybody else likely does not exist.
A wise madam said to me once, "They go from girl to girl looking for Marilyn Monroe, and when they finally find her...she's too blonde." Shows her age, but anyway...
This really isn't the place to find a perfect, or ideal, girl. It's a place to satisfy a need and have some fun. If you happen to find someone who makes you want to sing and dance - great! Stay in her good favor, keep things in perspective, and keep going back.
Also, the girl who seems 'perfect' on paper might not be satisfying for you, in person. The girl who you might just 'settle' for because nobody else is available might be the girl who does it for you. The chemistry factor is incalculable.
Also - (I don't know but I would guess) sometimes unrealistic expectations might keep you from recognizing a provider who you might eventually come to enjoy. From the provider side, I've given a second and third chance to some clients I wasn't crazy about the first time around...and now they are some of my favorites.
Keep an open mind Gambler seems to think she's legit
Not even a thank you after all the help and suggestions you have received? GaG even offered his help in PM. On top of that, making a comment about this is not a great discussion? Get the fuck out of here. I seriously doubt you will ever receive any help here from now on. Some people really feel entitled.
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