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IMO, this is absolutely . . . .
GaGambler 613 reads
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1 / 69

but he was also very lucky you were as nice and understanding as you were.

The prevailing wisdom here is that if YOU cut the session short, you owe him at least a partial refund, unless of course you cut the session short due to his bad behavior in which case all bets are off. Now if the client cuts the session short, do to personal reasons, like a migraine, that is on him and you don't owe him a penny back unless you are feeling particularly magnanimous that day.

Personally, if I had to cut a session short by lets say half an hour, it wouldn't even occur to me to ask for a partial refund, and most likely if one were offered, I'd be grateful for the offer, but I would probably give the money back to her as a tip.

I know a LOT of the more mercenary women here would not even dream of giving a single penny back in such a case, I guess you really are nice, aren't you? lol

Fridays117 27 Reviews 413 reads
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2 / 69

Unless the provider cancels the date just as they are starting or something for her own reasons.  The guy books the woman's time, he bought it.  If he got a migrane, its on him.  If I had a nickle for each of  the number of times I was going for pop #2 or 3 and I was unable to finish I would probably be able to see 5 providers a week for life.  But thats on me, not her!  For a 1, 2 or 3 hour session, if I gotta cut it short, its my bad.  Now if she cuts it short, then yeah, money back.  As GG said, you are really nice!

John_Laroche 358 reads
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3 / 69

one of my ATFs who i've been seeing for several years (so I know she wasn't BS'ing me) started feeling ill 1/2 way through our date. I had already popped once and she was as charming as ever up until that point. I gave her a hug and a light kiss and told her to go to bed. Left my usual envelope.  

response part 2: I've had migraines. NEVER would have the wherewithal to think about cash back if it was a real migraine. I just want to be alone and in a very dark room ASAP.

ValuedCustomer 352 reads
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4 / 69

GaG is right-  this would not be something I would expect.  You are a sweetheart.  

My guess is that some viagra was involved.  It can give you a serious headache after an orgasm if you take too much.  And from personal experience - he was probably in serious pain and really not able to think rationally.  It is a serious motherfucker.  Think of a chisel being driven into your head by a hydraulic press operated by a spastic monkey.

So basically you were nice to a guy when he really needed it.  Further, on a selfish note, you got him out of your room quickly and without incident.  No ambulance.  No drama. My guess is that you will profit from this;  you will probably see him again and he will think kindly of you.

In my opinion, you did well by doing good

NinjaThisPost 198 reads
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5 / 69

I find it to be a bit rude that he asked for some money back only because you scheduled a block of time for him and he was the one who cut it short.  You did a nice thing though...I probably would have done the same if it was a regular who saw me often or someone who I knew had to scrape up the change to come see me...Otherwise I'd say he's out of luck.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 513 reads
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6 / 69

the only way to look at it.  I contracted for the time, and she reserved it for me.  If I don't complete the session for whatever reason, I still pay for the time I contracted for.  If SHE cuts if short, then as you say, its on her and I get a refund.  

I have often left a multi-hour session early to get to a subsequent business meeting, but still always pay for the whole time I booked.  (Yes, I can still close a deal when I smell like pussy, just in case you were wondering.)

NinjaThisPost 292 reads
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7 / 69

Now that I think about it most people I've seen experiencing a migraine just want to be by themselves in a dark place and can't think of anything else but getting rid of the pain...Perhaps it was just your typical "sex headache".  I get those sometimes and they hurt pretty bad.

jackwparsons 12 Reviews 264 reads
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8 / 69

I would never think to ask for money back for something like this. Definitely if it was the other persons fault, but not it it were in me. However, assuming I had a good time,  if you offered without me asking you'd probably bump up a few points in my book! But if you didn't ask, I wouldn't think twice about it  
 

Posted By: Mysterylover
If you schedule a date but need to cut it early because you got a headache or something? I had a client have to cut the date short because he got a migraine after his second pop. He asked for some money back, I had no problem with that since it wasn't much back and it was what he should have originally done instead of wanting more time when booking (an extra half hour after a couple hours). He was nice. I am not complaining because it means I could do something a little earlier than I planned and that was nice lol. I'm just curious how people handle this when it happens to them.

Pavliena See my TER Reviews 339 reads
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9 / 69

so other women would know and avoid such "nice client"
 
Poor girl sorry that you have to go through that ..
 Fact that you are asking here shows me - you wanted just some moral support.

I am glad many here and gentlemen and ladies did offer that to you.

Never see those men - one day they may be not so nice asking money bac

GaGambler 299 reads
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10 / 69

Didn't promise to leave quite some time ago? I am not pushing for you to leave, but a promise is a promise. lol

bonordonor 277 reads
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11 / 69

Posted By: coeur-de-lion
 (Yes, I can still close a deal when I smell like pussy, just in case you were wondering.)

Pavliena See my TER Reviews 327 reads
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12 / 69

Gambler. Are you really my shadow? Every time I post and you are here !!!! Truly said - from love to hate is one step:)  
Sorry, can not drinking with you.

Pavliena See my TER Reviews 552 reads
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13 / 69

that you are not a dangerous .. yet according to your harassing people online and bitter posts - that I think would make many to think about your character

PRS2005 224 reads
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bonordonor 256 reads
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followme 351 reads
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17 / 69

Was on him not you he is an asshole for asking for money back.
And after two pops no less

Did he at least have the courtesy and respect to email a thank you note when he was feeling better ?

Thank You  
LI = 5

Pavliena See my TER Reviews 292 reads
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18 / 69


END OF MESSAGE

mrfisher 115 Reviews 273 reads
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21 / 69

If a gal gets sick and ends early, then she owes something back of course, though when this once happened to me, I requested only extra time on our next session.  That was a win/win for both of us

impposter 49 Reviews 241 reads
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22 / 69

There have already been 15-20 or more replies, and I agree with most of them:  
You were very nice about it.
He should not have asked when it was HE who cut things short on you.
If you had cut it short, you do owe a refund of some sort.

But I'll add this ...

Watch out in the future. Don't let this guy schedule a block of time and then decide he wants to cut it short and get a pro-rated refund BECAUSE YOU DID THE PREVIOUS TIME. If he reschedules, I'm pretty sure that you're the kind of person who would first say that you hope he's OK and that his migraines stopped and all sorts of nice stuff like that.  

But also let him know that you're setting aside that time FOR HIM. "Yeah, the last time it worked out because you really looked like you were in bad shape. And I had something I could do to fill the time.") You're not like a box of tissues where he can grab a big handful, use what he wants and stuff the rest back into the box. I wouldn't be nasty or forceful -- and you don't sound like that type --  because I might need him to cut some slack down the road.

Be reasonable, but just don't make a habit of it.
 
Posted By: Mysterylover
If you schedule a date but need to cut it early because you got a headache or something? I had a client have to cut the date short because he got a migraine after his second pop. He asked for some money back, I had no problem with that since it wasn't much back and it was what he should have originally done instead of wanting more time when booking (an extra half hour after a couple hours). He was nice. I am not complaining because it means I could do something a little earlier than I planned and that was nice lol. I'm just curious how people handle this when it happens to them.

MissLALove 297 reads
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23 / 69

Hello mr Gaga gambler, I loved your response. I felt the exact same way. She was nice by giving it back but  I would be upset if my client asked. I like the mutual respect and etiquette between gents and ladies so we can all have fun and I think keeping your word (on both ends) is the right thing to do. Just like going to a theme park, I pay for a ticket, if I get a headache a few hours into it, I can't go to customer service and ask for a partial refund. They would tell me to get to stepping! Escorting is a business too, and the young lady who posted this thread shouldn't have been asked that question in the first place, but everyone acts different of course . Just my thoughts :) hope everyone is having a kickass monday!

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 299 reads
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24 / 69

Cuts ME in in the 8-10K a week SHE makes.

JakeFromStateFarm 360 reads
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25 / 69

I would wager no one knows what you meant to say.  I hope you speak our language better than you write it, or else you would starve.

Jacque_Jenesais See my TER Reviews 362 reads
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26 / 69

He will play on your compassion again to get you to book again. If it worked the first time, the second time he'll switch something up and you'll be tricked again, in a way where you agreed - again, and it'll be worse/more money out of your pocket.

He's just like the person who brings their own bug to a restaurant and puts it in the soup so he can get the dinner for free.  

What a sleaze ball.

-- Modified on 11/28/2016 8:30:13 PM

2648667 31 Reviews 210 reads
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Skyfyre 272 reads
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28 / 69

For the original poster's sake I hope she doesn't follow this bad advice. First off this sounds like a good regular customer of her to start with. Secondly she acknowledged that the amount was very little, 30 min. worth out of 2.5 hrs. and it didn't bother her one bit. Thirdly apparently this is only the first (and maybe the only) time it happens.

If she follows your advice she's going to lose a valuable regular who normally sees her 2hrs. over a petty amount of money. Pennies wise pound foolish?

Last but not least almost everyone agrees that she's 100% rightfully not required to refund the money yet she was super nice to do so.

Can you say "PR coup"?  

OTH, I'm pretty sure many if not most guys are turned off by mercenary, vindictive and petty women (hint, hint

TurbayVeronica See my TER Reviews 406 reads
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29 / 69

I'm bilingual and I can understand her post lol  

Posted By: JakeFromStateFarm
I would wager no one knows what you meant to say.  I hope you speak our language better than you write it, or else you would starve.

TurbayVeronica See my TER Reviews 348 reads
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30 / 69

Agreed!

Say I planned on a 2 hour date so I make a place reservation that cost me according to the date... and this guy cut the time off? So I'm the one that end up loosing.  

Nope, too bad, we can see each other next time.
 
Posted By: Courtney.Ova
He will play on your compassion again to get you to book again. If it worked the first time, the second time he'll switch something up and you'll be tricked again, in a way where you agreed - again, and it'll be worse/more money out of your pocket.  
   
 He's just like the person who brings their own bug to a restaurant and puts it in the soup so he can get the dinner for free.  
   
 What a sleaze ball.

-- Modified on 11/28/2016 8:30:13 PM

Rebelcountry 1 Reviews 254 reads
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31 / 69

Good post...I would have been too embarrassed to ask for money back....If it's that tight, prolly need to find a better hobby.

Not to offend, but I'm learning under fire as a "new" guy.

JakeFromStateFarm 291 reads
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32 / 69

And I would like to wear your ass as a hat. :)

Skyfyre 264 reads
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33 / 69

Hey I too would love to tell my business competition to dump their customers so my business can have them instead (LOL)

souls_harbor 227 reads
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34 / 69

There is no best answer because this is all marketing and you target marketing differently based on different individuals.

I bet not every provider gives the same rates to everybody (i.e. discounts to some customers, etc.)  Because they feel out what might attract a return visit, or reward a steady customer.

Not every marketing gambit goes right.   But by and large over the long run, specific marketing can produce a net gain over a one-size-fits-all approach.

MidnightKitty 227 reads
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He booked your time, he got two pops. If he is a regular, this is only the beginning. This was a test to see if he can push you around. He pushed you so that just gives him the okay to keep pushing. Regulars like this will just piss you off and it's not worth it. Cut him loose.

I occasionally have clients leave early for whatever reason and they never ask for their money back. Because they are gentleman and they stay true to their word. Not like this guy.

Jacque_Jenesais See my TER Reviews 326 reads
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Pavliena See my TER Reviews 390 reads
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37 / 69

Have fun  

http://youtu.be/5wSw3IWRJa0

P.S.  
That is why we - who are bilingual , as a rule , are more inteligent .
 Sorry, that takes some work to learn few languages.

Yet, I myself ( and many others new americans ) we do prefer to keep own induvudualism which clear separates us  from those americans as in the clip above !!!  

Verstehst du mich jetzt?

Jacque_Jenesais See my TER Reviews 336 reads
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38 / 69

and some start testing the waters after a couple of dates. We've all had it happen.]Those guys will turn on you so fast the second you ask them to pay for the 30 minutes he stayed over with zero notice.

And I agree, some of my clients leave early every single time, and still tip

But if she is going to take a date with him in the future, it'll be good for her to be mindful & watch him and the patterns evolve - cut it off if it happens again at least.  
 
Posted By: MidnightKitty
He booked your time, he got two pops. If he is a regular, this is only the beginning. This was a test to see if he can push you around. He pushed you so that just gives him the okay to keep pushing. Regulars like this will just piss you off and it's not worth it. Cut him loose.  
   
 I occasionally have clients leave early for whatever reason and they never ask for their money back. Because they are gentleman and they stay true to their word. Not like this guy.
-- Modified on 11/28/2016 10:59:17 PM

GingerGunnar See my TER Reviews 271 reads
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Posted By: Mysterylover
If you schedule a date but need to cut it early because you got a headache or something? I had a client have to cut the date short because he got a migraine after his second pop. He asked for some money back, I had no problem with that since it wasn't much back and it was what he should have originally done instead of wanting more time when booking (an extra half hour after a couple hours). He was nice. I am not complaining because it means I could do something a little earlier than I planned and that was nice lol. I'm just curious how people handle this when it happens to them.
I have to say I'm way more accustomed to people paying me above and beyond- so the one time I had a guy tell me he didn't "need" all the time he booked or something to that effect (because I had done a great job!) and actually asked for some of the donation back it was extremely akward, to say the least.  Rates aren't something to negotiate at any point, before or after.  Book the time, simple as that.  On the other end I don't start demanding more pay if the session runs over, most just respectfully take care of me.  
When this did happen, I felt extremely uncomfortable and put on the spot.  Quite frankly, it was a slap in the face and a huge insult so I just wanted him gone.  I would never give a guy like this a reference, in good faith as, again donations really aren't something to discuss or negotiate.   Some people shouldn't hobby..but again, how do you say no without a very uncomfortable confrontation and a need to be a "tough guy" wondering what form of back up you'll need to defend yourself when this happens?  That's all I could think about the one time it happened to me and for that reason I just wanted him out, and out fast.  
Please don't be "that" guy.   so not cool.

Pavliena See my TER Reviews 358 reads
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41 / 69

as, seems, that is your only one way of satisfy your needs.
 By the way .. what are your needs? Just share with us here. That would be some interesting reading.. as manual about needs of johns.

ROGM 247 reads
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42 / 69

You didn't have to give him back any money. Even the time he decided to not use to see you. Any client that asks for his money back, even just a portion of it is a Scumbag!!!!!  You were such a sweetheart to give him back the money for the time he cut short with you. You should have just given him a discount on the portion of time he didn't use for the next session.

Tobi Telford See my TER Reviews 272 reads
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43 / 69

I'd be willing to bet my left tit that "migraine" = "there's no way I can get off a third time so I might as well just bounce." I would have given him an Excedrin or two, but not one red cent.

TheGovernor 142 Reviews 289 reads
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44 / 69

My ATF arrived on schedule, 10 minutes in my GI tract reacts to the Wisabi.  I knew everything was going south literally! I explained that it would be best to reschedule.  I handed her the envelope with entire donation.  At this point I was glad that she was leaving as my tummy ache was getting worse.

A few days later she visited me again at no charge. I felt that my sincerity and good faith was rewarded by a nice lady with integrity.  Have seen her again several times but have not eaten sushi since....nor do I intend to!

BigPapasan 3 Reviews 253 reads
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45 / 69

...the Excedrin (and the left tit.  In my case it would be the left nut).  She should have given him a swift kick in the ass for asking for some money back.  That would have taken his mind off his "migraine."

JakeFromStateFarm 352 reads
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46 / 69

She speaks gibberish.  And that's about it.

Fancy8888 See my TER Reviews 319 reads
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47 / 69

Posted By: TurbayVeronica
 
 I'm bilingual and I can understand her post lol  
   
Posted By: JakeFromStateFarm
I would wager no one knows what you meant to say.  I hope you speak our language better than you write it, or else you would starve.
[/quote                            Bullying over spelling on the board. people jump on each other bandwagon..LMAO...This has nothing to do with the topic....2 pops clients got what he wanted out of you.Rate charge 1.5 ..Will you see him again?

-- Modified on 11/29/2016 5:16:16 AM

Walter_Sobchak 351 reads
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48 / 69

To dudes everywhere. This guy was being VERY un-dude. The Dude treats his special lady friends with respect.

FatVern 335 reads
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49 / 69

... and when is he going to write the review?

1736687 15 Reviews 252 reads
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50 / 69

I was with someone.. and just as we finished the 1st time.. the alarms in the hotel started going off.. The fireman were running up and down the halls and we had to get out.. The provider tried to give me some of my donation back.. I refused.. when I got outside I found $150 in my pocket... (! !!! ) amazing..  
Another time.. I was with a provider.. I have been with her more times than I can count.. her phone rang.. it was her daughters school.. and her daughter was sick... she had to be picked up.. I left the donation with her.. she didn't offer to give it back.. just before the phone rang she was telling me about her rent being due and so on.. I didn't have the heart to insist.. she made it up to me later.. it depends on the provider and also her situation.. really.. I can't be a jerk to someone..

Fancy8888 See my TER Reviews 213 reads
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Posted By: FatVern
... and when is he going to write the review?
Good point client passed screening.I would like to see review too.

keystonekid 114 Reviews 276 reads
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52 / 69

call her Pav. Did you write a review of your visit with her? Did she help you remove your kackies?

keystonekid 114 Reviews 279 reads
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53 / 69

money back on the ticket cost? I don't think stubhub works this way nor does any other team whether it be high school, college, or the NFL.

GaGambler 245 reads
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54 / 69

BSC hookers who speak in incomprehensible gibberish, well that's a different matter of course.

I might add, you are the one responding to me when I hadn't given you a single thought when replying to the OP, so who is harassing who here? and I further defy you to find a single "bitter" post I have made. Let me remind you, the piñata is almost always the bitter one, not the stick.

Tobi Telford See my TER Reviews 247 reads
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We all know our divine Dude would never do such a thing to his fuckin' lady friend, man!

Tobi Telford See my TER Reviews 231 reads
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Tobi Telford See my TER Reviews 299 reads
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Unfortunately there are a lot of dude's out there who will pull this kind of shit to "test" a lady's willingness to stand up for herself. The OP was incredibly sweet to give him some cash back, so props for that (I for one would have been SUPER cunty had it been me), just don't let it open you up to getting taken advantage of.  

Posted By: impposter
There have already been 15-20 or more replies, and I agree with most of them:  
 You were very nice about it.  
 He should not have asked when it was HE who cut things short on you.  
 If you had cut it short, you do owe a refund of some sort.  
   
 But I'll add this ...  
   
 Watch out in the future. Don't let this guy schedule a block of time and then decide he wants to cut it short and get a pro-rated refund BECAUSE YOU DID THE PREVIOUS TIME. If he reschedules, I'm pretty sure that you're the kind of person who would first say that you hope he's OK and that his migraines stopped and all sorts of nice stuff like that.  
   
 But also let him know that you're setting aside that time FOR HIM. "Yeah, the last time it worked out because you really looked like you were in bad shape. And I had something I could do to fill the time.") You're not like a box of tissues where he can grab a big handful, use what he wants and stuff the rest back into the box. I wouldn't be nasty or forceful -- and you don't sound like that type --  because I might need him to cut some slack down the road.  
   
 Be reasonable, but just don't make a habit of it.  
   
   
Posted By: Mysterylover
If you schedule a date but need to cut it early because you got a headache or something? I had a client have to cut the date short because he got a migraine after his second pop. He asked for some money back, I had no problem with that since it wasn't much back and it was what he should have originally done instead of wanting more time when booking (an extra half hour after a couple hours). He was nice. I am not complaining because it means I could do something a little earlier than I planned and that was nice lol. I'm just curious how people handle this when it happens to them.

vantheman666 11 Reviews 288 reads
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58 / 69

Everyone's confused.  Pav is completely incapable of making a post that makes sense.

Jacque_Jenesais See my TER Reviews 238 reads
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perfectstorm 19 Reviews 250 reads
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And somehow you missed that I was talking to Veronica, who said she understood Pav because she is bilingual.

JakeFromStateFarm 188 reads
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Posted By: perfectstorm
And somehow you missed that I was talking to Veronica, who said she understood Pav because she is bilingual.

JakeFromStateFarm 216 reads
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And, no, she did not help me remove my khakis because I wouldn't fuck her with your dick.  In fact, I'll bet YOU wouldn't fuck her with my dick! LOL!

613spades 5 Reviews 245 reads
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Leave games at half time if a friend got too drunk or some other reason and sell our ticket stubs if it was a big game that was close. More than once we made out ok doing it. I can't think on an NFL team that allows re entry now but 15 yrs ago a fair number of college stadiums did for sure.

Walter_Sobchak 266 reads
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Okay, thanks. What I'm hearing is that I'm not wrong. I think we can all agree this guy was out of his element.

Tobi Telford See my TER Reviews 206 reads
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Posted By: Walter_Sobchak
Okay, thanks. What I'm hearing is that I'm not wrong. I think we can all agree this guy was out of his element.

WickedBrut 27 Reviews 235 reads
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Also, with 2 pops down, it sounds like it was a multi-hour appointment. So like if he booked 3 but left after 2 because of the migraine, you reimbursed him the difference between a 2-hour rate and a 3-hour. Which was probably discounted at less than your hourly rate. So that sounds fair. He obviously enjoyed himself, so you may see him again.

I had a similar experience except it was the provider who had to call it short, and she returned the balance for the time without my asking. That was different circumstances, of course. But there's no crime in just being kind to each other.

Oldtimemonger 245 reads
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