Thank You, Everyone

You know you are not and that is what matters.Forget what those two guys said to you of course a natural reaction would be to be upset by their comments.Not every woman who is chinese is going to be a small body size and petite.
Women of all races comes in different heights and weight.
Hold your head high and keep providing a great service to your clients.
There is always going to be some people who are not satisfied.

Letting it go. Now you can move on and only hope others will be more kind and understanding. But when something like this happens again, and it probably will, don’t allow them the privilege of making you upset or angry. I know that’s not easy. But they are not your friends or family and should never own any part of you that caused pain and anger. They have to pay extra for that.

Thank you so much Dear  

I can see from your pics that you are not a tiny woman. Kudos to you for accurately representing yourself.  If it were me and they asked me if I was transgender.... I'm afraid I would have said "why? Would you like me to fuck your virgin asshole? That'll be 5k" 😂 and then see their reaction then lol
I'm so sorry you had to go through that love. Don't let these 2 idiots even be a thought in your mind at all. I know that is easier said than done but they aren't worth it.  Dealing with that and being so far away from your daughter? Ahhhh.... my heart breaks for you 😢Just remember,  where there is 2 assholes, there are 100 wonderful GENTLEMEN out there.  
Love
TL

You posted something like this on our PO board.  

Yes.I let it go. I was so upset calling and texting & calling those 2 people to show how much I hurt but I know is not worth it. Is just my OCD not easily letting things go  

Hey TL .  

Do I post on PO board?  I'm not aware of that  

Can any of us really say we find all women (or all men) equally attractive?  I've been married a few times to jealous women who thought someone else was always out to snatch me away.  I've also often been bluntly rejected by other women as too ugly to consider.  On the flip side I have my own ideas of female beauty or ugliness.

I totally agree with you Not everyone is going to be everyone's cup of tea  

I am so sorry that your feelings were hurt by these two miserable cretins.  I’m also sorry that you seem to encounter other morons who don’t seem to know or care how to treat a lady (or people general probably).

there are ways of navigate those situtations politely and with consideration for the feelings of others.

You post it on the providers only board. You have to be approved by TER by requesting access. Here is a link to get you started.

I'm thinking of post an secured question like  

That sounds brilliance.I need to practice my let go skill

Unfortunately the nature of the biz attracts a disproportionate percentage of the socially inept.   The best thing to do is be emotionally prepared for such.

Sometimes you just need to kick ass LoL.

I can use that in my web too

Ask again after tonight. I think they should let you in seeing tonight’s post and having a history of reviews.

But I don’t see pics of you other than P411. And while it’s not important for me since my expectations are to get an awesome massage, you may need to get more flattering pictures sorry.

What is the problem with the picture at P411?  All of my pictures are face blurred

From what I read, both men felt uncomfortable. The first asked if you were transgender and the second clearly displayed discomfort as well. Being uncomfortable and speaking up about that does not make someone a jerk. Many providers on these boards ask men repeatedly why they finish appointments with women they were unhappy with and go on to write bad reviews? It’s mean, or horrible to speak up and leave an uncomfortable situation? I would rather know up front if there is going to be a problem personally. I don’t want to be with women who feel they have to grin and bare being with me. When that happens to a guy, it’s called YMMV.  

I was gonna mention Gemma because, well, she and  I play.  Perfect example! Really hot but not a spinner or short asian woman! Ok, thanks, now I need to hit her up! Lol yummmm.....
To me, your pics do not represent a small Asian woman but a tall, sexy voluptuous woman 😏😚
XOXO  
TL

There will always be douche bags.  

Awesome post!

And I should know because I AM one the socially inept.

trouble of writing something similar.  You said it well.  Except I would not have included the part about me not being "women's idea of  attractive or boyfriend material."  Instead, I would have said,  "I know a guy named Allstar . . ."  
Lol

True, I think she realizes it now. Ok here let me show you my pussy, do you want a massage or not???

Thanks love.I'm going to use that on my website as well  

Damn, that's a fabulous percentage!

As I said I'm not upset I'm not some type of guy's cup of tea.No, Not at all  

Thanks buddy  

And I’d love to meet you! I don’t know if you know other providers in MN but if you don’t (or if you do even) I’d be happy to get lunch with you sometime! This job can be difficult emotionally sometimes and it helps to have friends.

Abbi has it right. If you ever need someone to talk to call me. 480-485-6160 Eden
I’m sorry this happened to you.

Yeah, that was some harsh shit to say to a woman, I don't blame you for being pissed.

Asian spinner guy, too, like GaG, but I don't rule out taller girls with good reviews.  My last review was for an Asian girl I saw over Christmas weekend (and repeated with three days later for two hours) who was 6-1.  I'm 5-11, but when you're horizontal, height difference means nothing.  I scored it a 9/9 session without hesitation.  Her ad photos were extremely accurate, which I always appreciate.  

and I have never said anything so harsh, not even from behind the safety of my keyboard. I can't imagine saying something like that to a woman to her face. I will freely admit that I have turned around and walked without leaving a cent when I thought I was being deceived and the woman answering the door was 40 pounds heavier or 20 years older than the hottie in her pics, but even then I have NEVER stooped to calling her ugly or suggesting she was trans.  

No doubt the guy is an idiot for ignoring the ad, but if you believe taking one look at someone, turning around and walking out somehow makes that individual feel any better than asking to clarify if they are transgender is selective empathy. Being directly rejected based upon the way you look doesn’t feel good no matter how fancy of a platter you put it on. The OP is hurt because she tried to avoid that very situation in the first place by represnting herself accurately and the guy ignored all that and booked the appointment, just to reject her upon seeing her. I agree with the OP that simply saying she played volleyball doesn’t directly translate into how tall someone is (athletic sure), but she was as open as she could have been.  

I said I would leave "without leaving a cent" NOT "without saying a word" Please at least TRY to read what I actually have to say before using straw man arguments.

and I wear heels that are no less than 4.1/4 inches. Absolutely will not consider it! I just purchased a pair of heels that are five inches high and I have a few pair already as tall. So in those heels it puts me at 6'4 at least. I have been asked twice in the past about my gender. It seems it is beyond some men's comprehension that there are tall women! I cannot and will not wear flats!! Sorry but to me they are not sexy and they hurt my feet! I also am now training with a very muscular woman and I actually hired her because of her physique! I like a defined body on a woman. She did tell me that due to my height when I get muscular that I will look like a monster! I was like wow but I smiled. If anyone feels the need to ask my gender when I do reach monster status lol I will show him the door. l am a woman, through and through. Had my sex been something else previously before I would share it. I am sorry to hear this happening to you, even after you show them your pinkness. That's terrible! I saw some pics but maybe take some in sexier dresses and heels lol! Heels rock!!!! Depending on your foot size I can lend you a pair for new pics!

Hey.Gaga. Focus the 95% and F the rest of 5% haha  

Agree that speaking up about feeling discomfort and ending the session is the right thing to do. I’ve done it myself and had it done to me. Yep, it stings for a few mins but it passes much more quickly than the memory of some imbecile asking if you are transgender.  What is not right is asking someone if they are transgender. What’s the point? If they say ‘yes’ the guy leaves. If they say ‘no’ the guy (if he has brains) will still leave (because he is not feeling it) but he also hurts someone in the process. Sorry but there are zero reasons or excuses for what they did. None

Gaga you just made my days  

Well said.Allstart  

Yes, Dear, there is.

More than happy to

If anyone feels the need to ask my gender when I do reach monster status lol I will show him the door. l am a woman, through and through.

Sorry, I think you’ve misunderstood me (or I’m misunderstanding your reply)
I never said it was ok for them to say what they did - I said the exact opposite. Sorry you didn’t understand that

How about a kick in the nuts followed by a punch in the face?

I'm sorry, My "Chinglish" is getting wore  

Just checked out your site & pics. Your site says clearly you're tall & athletic. All lot of guys don't read, they look @ pics and dial.  

1. There are many big and tall women who are on TER. I am short, but sometimes I like to be with a tall woman, as long as they are thin and tall, not "big" and tall. Not every tall Provider creates doubt in the minds of their clients. (Also, I am talking about full service Providers, not massage only.)  Your pics on P411 clearly show that you are athletic and tall, not thin and tall. That can create some ambiguity. One suggestion: take some pics with your HAIR PULLED BACK. Sometimes the SHAPE of the face can convey M or F characteristics. Does your face have feminine features? Can you add a little makeup for face pics? You can still use blurring. (Maybe I will add a recent story, at the end.)
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2. There have been other FS Providers on TER who touted their NCAA volleyball backgrounds. One even mentioned that she played varsity on an Ivy League V-ball team.  The two I am thinking of were "California" blondes: tall, curvy, etc. with unambiguous, very fetching lingerie photos.  
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3. Thankfully, I have not been in many uncomfortable situations. If I was in such a situation, I think I would try to use my sense of humor to try to ask or make my direct comments very indirectly, always trying to gauge my hostess's sense of humor and to give her a chance to "get" what I am talking about. A close made up example might be about rock hard fake boobs. "Wow! What are these made of?  Kevlar body armor? ... When we're finished here, let's go rob a bank!" But I would already have some sense that she would "get" the jokes and not be hurt by the criticism of her boob choice. Humor is very hard to translate across languages and cultures. (I have many Chinese friends. Chinese jokes are really hard to understand.)  (Some K-girls I knew both before and after their surgeries knew me well enough that I could joke about preferring their pre-boob job boobs.)  
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4. Where humor didn't seem appropriate, I have either really been ill or pretended to be ill. "I'm not feeling well. Let's just hang out for a while ... So what position did you play on your V-ball team? What's your best Standing Vertical Jump?" (This will get me in BIG trouble: Women can't jump!)
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Sometimes, "I'm not feeling so well. I think I had a bad piece of sushi or something. I'd better leave. Here's the envelope. Sorry." (There was also a situation where I really was ill even tho' I wanted to proceed full speed ahead!)  
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5. The guys you described were expressing their discomfort, perhaps very clumsily. Some people say that the BRAIN is the largest sex organ. If they got some idea in their head upon meeting you, it can be very hard to dispel. They won't be comfortable so they ask to leave or to avoid certain things. Although their comments were hurtful to you, I think they were trying to be mean or insulting. They were just socially inept.  Are you comfortable enough to answer the door in your V-ball shorts? Those shorts do not hide anything!  By the way: beach V-ball (even MORE revealing) or indoor V-ball? If your pics leave any doubt, V-ball shorts will put an end to that!  
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6. I am in urban areas where there are many Asian civvies of every size and shape. My glances are more attracted to spinners, of course, but also to the tall, thin women.  But I also enjoy ogling the tall, "big" women, some of whom have picture post-card or cover-girl faces.  
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7. A few weeks ago, I was on a crowded subway but I was pleased to be standing in front of a late 20-ish attractive black woman dressed very hip and stylishly. Over the course of several stops, I'm checking things out. From the bend of her legs, I can see that she is very tall. She had fashionable leather knee-high full-lace boots. But her feet were huge: maybe size 13 mens. (My foot was not too far from hers for a side by side comparison against the tiles in the subway car.) Her hair (or wig?) was straight and light brown with a big jeweled ribbon - head band thing. She had on winter clothing, but her coat was partially unzipped and her chest was not flat. Her big stylish shopping bag thing was on her lap so I had no view of her crotch. Then I got to her face. A faint dark fuzzy mustache. Some lipstick. No eye makeup. ... To me, this face was 100% male. She did not smile. She squinted and scowled right at me. It was a little bit scary.  I "framed" just her face in my mind and this could be somebody I used to play basketball with (men's basketball, not co-ed).  I am nearly positive that it was a guy. I didn't leave early or ask for my fare back or ask her wassup but I just continued to my stop.  
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Embrace the positives. Don't hold on to the occasional negatives. Let it go.  
Let it go, let it go.
Turn away and slam the door.
I don't care what they're going to say.
Let the storm rage on.
The cold never bothered me anyway.
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Summary: New pics with hair pulled back to show face. Greet guests with hair pulled back and more revealing outfit. Maybe some makeup.
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Haoyun!  Xin nian kuai le!

You and John Galt used to be buddies, weren't you? lol

This is a very strange business.  I’ve seen some absolutely gorgeous women whom others felt looked masculine in their photos.  Square features like the jaw-line and shoulders, for example, create questions by some.  Perhaps those guys were previoulsy surprised by a tranny or two and are gun shy.  Who knows.  Try not to let it get to you.  

Oh hell no. Never

Touché 🤣

I am so sorry that happened to you. Some men wouldn't know a real lady if she bit them in the ass. Don't fret the simple thoughts of simple minds....you're a queen. Now straighten that tiara and walk tall..

When he asked you if you were a Tranny you took time to show him you were not.

just so you could use that line and post that pic. 😊

Thank You

I dont know how to feel about this situation. on the one hand i cant help but seeing some humor in it. on the other hand i know first hand what it feels when the person who makes an appt looks or acts or says things that make us feel uncomfortable, but i also feel a little sad that you think being thought of as trans is some kind of an insult (unless i just read too much into your post). In short, i sympathize with you.  

I have nothing against trans. There is nothing wrong to be trans and but I'm not trans.

My interpretation of the OP was that the guys weren’t asking to be jerks. I assumed they were dumbasses who didn’t read the ad, and were asking to clarify/verify.  

Yep. I remember johngaltnh. I even used to ask HIM, "Who is John Galt?"  
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I didn't remember that he was, eh, another wordy type.  
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(Must! ...... Resist! ....... No! ...... More! ...... Wor

Genteically you are what you are.  Wanting to not be doesnt change what the BIOLOGY and GENETICS say you are

trans women are women though.

This is disgusting.  In this business, everyone puts up with a lot of bullshit. Whether provider or hobbyists, we all have been taken advantage of or insulted in some shape or form.  Can't we all just be a little more respectful and empathetic?  It's a shame such ignorance is being projected at you.  However, fighting ignorance with more ignorance is not going to improve anything.  Educate yourselves.  If you don't know something ask in a way that doesn't compromise someone else.  Try to feel how you are affecting others. Personally, I find much of this dialogue to be derogatory and stigmatic.   Did anyone here consider that a trans person might read this? I AM A TRANNY.  Last I checked it doesn't need to be censored.  I AM A REAL WOMAN. Because I said so, much like MckenzieGold undoubtedly told whatever dunce prompted this conversation.  I'm TERRIFYING, but no need to jump through the window.  I AM IN MINNEAPOLIS.  I encourage you to get to know the story of trans providers.  I would happily chat/meet with anyone who would like to hear the perspective from someone in the community.  You might find we are just people too.  

Otherwise you’d be aware how reductive and inaccurate your statement is.