Damn I heavily relied on TER for finding providers and seeing everything, I think maybe TER is more better than p411 only pro is that you can screened easily. Well the golden question here is what will happen to TER? Will reviews still be up? THe ad boards are gone, and only thing that I can see regionally is the new review sections smh

and on the local discussion boards.
Get creative, girls!

Next is profiles. I wish I could sort all reviews by country to determine what percentage is US based value. That and how many from the US are or were paying members, guys or ladies.

It was a Creative Writer's Workshop that was protected by all known laws that we hold dear in this Country.

I’m confused. Because this issue has been long discussed. Foot note, escort hosting websites, escort ad, reviewing websites, are now subject to federal prosecution and a felony offense.

This may be a seismic shift, or not.  But, best to prepare for the worst...

Well said Sarah!  
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is what we are talking about. It has been around and will still be around. It has changed over time as it will adapt to this latest turn of events.  

New and innovative ways will be created to still implement the worlds oldest profession. It's the worlds oldest profession for a reason. We are just changing with the times, just like they did centuries ago.  

It's be a subtle way of advertising...Just a picture with a attachment to their reviews or website..no,  "Hey Handsome, I'm available"...just pictures. The national photo board is still up, just isolate it to each city....duh.

it's still 'advertising'. The only thing that can happen is super anonymity and in basically 'sugar coating' what this really is. The words escort, provider, hooker, courtesan and all sites that relate to that (including this one) etc will have to disappear. Someone will have to create an underworld (like wearing a members only jacket lol) and strict rules and regulations by some kind of governing body will have to take over  to allow people in who are all good LOL.  

Congress recognizes that human trafficking is a bad thing.  It has also lumped in general prostitution in their "sense" as they call in the bill.  Section 230, The Communications Decency Act previously immunized a website operator from criminal and civil liability for the content on its website.  Congress felt that immunity was too broad and allowed unfettered advertising of prostitution and in some cases,  human trafficking.  

I don't know if this has been mentioned but TER domain name is registered through a US based company, Enom Inc, which is located in Washington state.  I hope TER admins or whomever consider moving the domain name to a more friendly locale.

If elected, I will not serve.

Perfect!

I expect SESTA to be challenged in court and for plaintiffs to prevail.  

Lol no fun. Remember this is to lighten the mood, that's all silly xo

Our rights under the Constitution and the Bill of Rights have been under attack for years, so this is another battle in that ongoing struggle. Our rights to privacy, free association and expression under the First Amendment and the attacks on our Second Amendment rights becoming even more intensive as we speak are all part of the back and forth battle with a common theme -- keep the masses under control.

Curious how this affects those of us that provide website design and photography for the industry? Obviously we will lose business but will be legally in the crosshairs as well? Seems murky right now.

Searching reviews  does not tell us who is coming to town and when, they only tell history.   By the time a review is posted the provider could have left town 3 months ago!

sex trafficking by definition is due to force, fraud, coercion.

Keep involved,  xoxo

threADS #1 just for Jake!!!!  

fucking useless idiots running the govt.

Why the fuck would they call it a sex trafficking act, and then lump every consenting voluntary participant into the mix?
Might as well call it Fight Online Prostitution Act, since it targets the entire trade.
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Sex trafficking is done by force fraud or coercion.
Consenting adults do not fit the description.
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I hope this shit gets challenged big time in courts.
If they can give gays rights, they should be able to fight for those who just want to get their dicks wet.

Thank you, Jinx.  That was excellent.
I hope this blows over... so I can get back to...

I guess the battery industry will see an uptick by us randy ladies!

As long as part of the job description is running "quality control" on the women accepted.

I love this idea!

Those were the words of Gen. William Tecumseh Sherman when asked if he would accept a draft to be President.  It is now known as a "Shermanesque" decline and was delivered firmly tongue-in-cheek.
Thanks for not getting it.

I have an email in my inbox from this company who says they are offshore and can host out ads as well as our web-sites. Im going to check them out this evening but in the meantime I thought Id post this for the rest of us to take a look at as an alternative.  

It's  for your own good ... BS if I have ever seen it!  Even Reddit.com has shut down discussion boards on sex work. DISCUSSION BOARDS!

FOSTA specifically exempts locations where prostitution is legal. Since P411 is in Canada and it is legal for escorts to advertise, it should not have any problems.  

You are so right! Traveling at this moment doesn't seem like a good idea either....for me anyway and I am itching to go again. Hope for things to get better.....soon!

how do i find this photo board!?

I’m very curious how they will be able to show proof or evidence that has no victims or charges to support there assisting trafficking or even prostitution.  

post where the photo board is
this whole law passing is saying it wont take effect till 2019, so why is it starting now!?

Panic is why. Just stay active in boards your visiting or local, better than only once a week

I see irony in Trump and others who will cause this to become a law because they have probably used services of escorts in the past. Maybe they want to limit who can have access escorts (like themselves) by passing this law?

http://coyoteri.org/wp/us-sex-workers-affected-2-days-after-fosta-passes-the-senate/

will likely be fought in court for many reasons by who?

Umm, possibly by DOJ, LE, EFF, ACLU, and others.  

As for this law not taking effect until 2019, that's false.  The bill states that it becomes effective immediately upon passage, i.e., when the President signs the bill.  Most likely, this will occur next week.

Congress has surely assigned an agent to receive veto messages while they are on vacation, thus allowing them to override by 2/3's majority when they return rather than reintroducing the legislation.   Doubtful it will happen with this, though I'd love to see the President fu*k with them on this, and make those bastards own this turkey.    

.....everyone in the US who willingly participates in this industry. These are some crazy chaotic times. Even though I only accept a handful of requests a year, I’m really relieved I’m in the U.K...

The UK is proving that Orwell was an optimist.

As far as I’m concerned, free speech should never allow hate speech. There have been way too many incidents on public transport in the U.K.  where people have been subject to such bullshit - I don’t have a problem with someone being banged up as a result....

There are laws that can prosecute certain hate speech already. What SESTA is doing isn’t that, the are going to consider websites such as personals as facilitating sex trafficking without proof or evidence of a crime.

There is no objective definition of "hate speech" so it is just what someone doesn't like.  I am sure you are happy to send people to prison for may years for saying things you don't like.  That is, in fact, an Orwellian society.  Remember that some people may not like what you say, or like your business of sex for money and are also happy to send you to prison for many years.

So YOU decide who is using hate-speech and want to physically hurt them?

I just now noticed there were no ad boards anymore. The life blood of the site, the women, and they cut them out.  

That was false advertising, just like most bill "titles".  

I can't walk the streets!!!!  AAAAHHHH!!!!  I live in a super small town in WI.  And there is snow on the ground here 7 months out of the year.  No one is going to pick me up on a street corner wearing blaze orange snow pants and a Packer jersey!!!!!  

I’ll be there shortly driving that awesome fast snowmobile naked. Blaze orange right, isn’t that what everyone’s wearing, ok you better be naked too. 😃😘😃

I think it is going to make email lists the go to and push us into the dark web or something drastic. All i know is now is the time to network and cultivate those mailing lists.

Websites are panicking because it makes  “ex post facto laws” legal. So even though it’s not in effect today...... if (which unfortunately looks likely) it does become the law of the land next year, they could still be convicted, even though it was legal when they were operating.

The new law reads: "(e) Affirmative Defense.--It shall be an affirmative defense to a charge of violating subsection (a), or subsection (b)(1) where the defendant proves, by a preponderance of the evidence, that the promotion or facilitation of prostitution is legal in the jurisdiction where the promotion or facilitation was targeted.''

I was responding to a comment about the U.K. - not SESTA

I don't think you understand what "objective" vs "subjective" means.  

of the provider's web pages except for 411 info. some have nothing. I wish I knew this was coming.  
One provider I know has blocked all text messages to her. Good thing I still have some emails for ladies I see ...  

That must have been at provider request.  All of my personal reviews still show links to all active web links. Blocked texts?  Did it scare her in to retirement?

https://gizmodo.com/senate-passes-sesta-controversial-anti-sex-trafficking-1823916411

Now you’re just being obtuse
No-where will be there be an exhaustive list of what specific words/phrases are classed are racist however, that is not a get of jail free card for people to use - people who knowingly use derogatory phrases that are designed to inflict racially motivated and bigoted opinions pay the toll fee for it REGARDLESS of whether the law has an exhaustive list. It’s simple. Own what you say or shut the fuck yo. The law will not protect passive aggressive cowards...  
If you want a fence to sit on, fine. I couldn’t care less. But I’m not going to continue a back and forth with you about whether it is actually a fence or not...

Google, Facebook, etc. can't really control what gets put on, or shows up on, their sites. If they think this puts them in potential legal jeopardy, they might challenge this legislation as overly broad or on some other grounds.  I am sure that their legal team are already at work on this.

Yes FU to Cityvibe for stealing my money the day before they took down their site.

Good lord woman, a guy was just convicted of a hate crime in the UK for making a comedy video of a dog doing a Nazi salute.

I just wanted to say that was an amazing message to everyone.
 obviously being a provider I appreciate your kind words it was nice to hear (as I sit here and try to  keep myself calm) and talking to others while continuing  to try to educate myself  is somewhat helpful it's just a scary thing because of the end of the day we really don't have any control over it or the outcome so it's the unknown and we just have to why it ride the wave.  
But reading your encouraging comments and seeing that we have your support and that you're in our corner, allow me to take a breath and feel a little better for that second. Hearing you say that it was going to be okay and just giving us the positive encouragement when you didn't even know me made me feel better ... I didn't know I needed to hear that but I did ..... so I appreciate you and your kind words  
Thank you so much for being Advocate and supporter for  all of us it's greatly appreciated and needed in this community (especially in timesLike This)
♡ Payton Good

Taxation is theft.

Why would you think you smarter then TER lawyers? What are your credentials? Did you even read  new bill?

According to new bill it does not help much

I can see it now:

That's an area of the USA where prostitution is legal (in certain counties) for which the FOSTA legislation carves out an exception.  (Unless I'm wrong, and there was no Nevada Ad board, but instead just Las Vegas and the rest of the state rolled up under the Other Cities ad board).

Great idea. Photos only. Contact info for "dating".

That is a great solution. This should be enacted ASAP.

Cloud Act was the nail in the coffin. All Internet  companies have to hand over data or the USA & countries in said "treaty" can take the data anytime they suspect a crime. No warrant in needed.

I noticed several comments above about creating a photo-only board. I took a look at BP for the first time in a long time to see how they were dealing with this, and that seems to be their strategy for the moment. All of the ads are nothing but a phone number and a photo. Of course, the advertisers put text in the photos that kind of defeats the purpose.