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Sienna91 See my TER Reviews 3466 reads
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1 / 42

I have someone threatening to write me a bad review because they tried to bully me into a BDSM session.. everyone in the review community knows that is not something I have nor have ever offered ever.

this person book a vanilla session and then try to bully me into switching into BDSM after he booked.. I feel uncomfortable and now he is demanding a refund and threatening to leave bad reviews.

I have his real-life information do I need to report this to the board moderators?  

He is attempting to blackmail me to say that I stole his deposit so this is a serious issue.

Steve_Trevor 190 reads
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2 / 42

such as email(s), PM(s) or text(s)?  If this is a TER member you could report it to TER (Contact Us link at bottom of the screen) and send them his TER handle and offer to send them your evidence.  They can watch for any review of you he may submit.

 
If you have access to the Provider’s board here you can post an alert there.  

 
Not sure what you mean by “blackmail”, but blackmail is a crime.  Up to you if you feel comfortable reporting it to LE.  You might at least threaten to report the guy to LE if he doesn’t cease and desist.  

 
There’s also blacklist sites you could report him to.

AnotherDonJohn 131 reads
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3 / 42

...Report him. Like Steve said you have to have some written communication proof. Plus you have great longtime reviews so people will likely take your side.  

If he’s not TER, and I presume he’s threatening the police or something, then blacklist him (or whatever u ladies do) and explain to him that he’s forfeited his deposit for a cancellation due to threatening behavior (you’re obviously not going to see him at this point). In every professional setting, there are conditions for “cause” to terminate a contract, no matter how strange that is.  

Not to be too self serving, You are welcome to hideout with me;)

ADJ

TheVoiceOfReason 120 reads
posted
4 / 42

It sounds like he booked a session and provided a deposit.  Then clarified the type of session.  You told him that you don't do that session.  Then you kept his deposit and never provided a session?  Now you wonder why he is pissed?  Is that what happened or am I missing or misinterpreting something?  Did you have a session with him?

RespectfulRobert 110 reads
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5 / 42

Steve gave you good advice here. Report his heinous behavior to TER and blacklist him. Extortion and blackmail have no place in this, or any, realm and you are wise and brave to stand up to it for if he gets away with it with you, he will no doubt try it on the next provider(s). Good for you for being pro-active! Good luck!

DeClemente 48 Reviews 123 reads
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6 / 42

Had he posted negative (and false) information about you before you posted this, then it becomes YOUR burden to backtrack and try to clear your name. You got here first, so your next steps will be much easier if and when he does act.  Like one of  the previous responses stated, if he's already on TER, contact management DIRECTLY. Do that now (if you haven't already). If he's not on TER yet, be on the lookout for a review from him, or even a post on Discussion Boards (plural; he may use a regional one or service-specific).  Be ready to go straight to management again if he posts anything false about you anywhere.  

I hope this helps.

-- Modified on 2/13/2021 11:51:35 AM

-- Modified on 2/13/2021 1:09:42 PM

36363jensen 4 Reviews 115 reads
posted
7 / 42

Did the session actually take place?

 
Sounds a bit like something was schedule and a deposit paid. THEN an attempt to change the nature of the session. If so just give the money back and report the threats to the admins (but you would need his TER handle I suspect, not RL info).

 
If he gets his money back, and no session actually occurred he cannot, legitimately, write a review. You can split hairs over whether your should be able to keep the deposit in this case but is it worth it? Particularly since that would potentially allow a rip-off review to be submitted.

-- Modified on 2/13/2021 4:08:19 PM

MasterZen 34 Reviews 173 reads
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8 / 42

if you have email or text threads and he is a TER reviewer, report it to TER along with copies of the communications.

Whether you are entitled to keep the deposit is another thing; do you have a deposit/cancellation policy and are you following it? I would not keep the deposit just because you are pissed at him. If either of you cancelled far enough in advance, he may be due the deposit back. Stick to your policy and timeline.  

None of us condone using reviews coercively. Sorry you are dealing with this. I honestly think that if you have evidence of coercion and have his handle, TER should consider banning him.

RespectfulRobert 99 reads
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9 / 42

You don't give in to a blackmailer. That only increases the chances he will use blackmail in the future to another lady. If the facts are as Sienna states, he should be kicked off TER, be blacklisted and lose his deposit. Maybe that will make him think twice before ever doing this to someone else. Heinous behavior should never be rewarded. He needs to learn a lesson.

TheVoiceOfReason 103 reads
posted
10 / 42

Everyone seems to be making a lot of assumptions here.  As I posted above, did the session even occur?  It seems as if it didn't and the guy just wants his deposit back and if he doesn't get it back then he will write one of those rip off reviews.  If the guy were on here with his side you would all probably be telling him to write the rip off review.  Too many facts are omitted here such as how much notice he gave before cancelling, her cancellation policy, and so on.

GaGambler 108 reads
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11 / 42

Sienna's post is as clear as mud, and she has a VERY strict deposit policy which leads me to believe that "his side of the story" might be very different.

 
I will concede that "if" the facts are exactly as Sienna states than at the very least he should be kicked off of TER, but that is a very big "IF".  

 
OTOH, if he booked a session, a "vanilla" session as she has stated, and then tried to change the appointment to a BDSM type of session like she claims, BUT he did so well within her allowed cancellation period than Zen would be absolutely correct and the guy should be entitled to his deposit back and THEN she can lose his number and tell him to fuck off forever.  

 
I do have to say the guy must be pretty fucking dumb to send a deposit and then try to renegotiate the session. Once she has the deposit she has little motivation to change a damn thing. I read through her website pretty thoroughly and I have to say I would NEVER book a session with a provider who offers sessions "up to" a certain amount of time. A two hour session should be two fucking hours, not "up to two hours" that's the kind of bullshit the old CL and BP hookers used to pull, a woman charging her kind of rates should be a LOT more clear about what a guy should expect in his date with her. Sorry, but I am not buying this one, from the tone of her site I am willing to bet its a rare guy who gets any kind of refund from this woman once the money is in her hands. I wouldn't book a session with her on a bet.

TheVoiceOfReason 111 reads
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12 / 42

This is probably a he says she says.

He would probably say that he asked for his deposit back after she denied his request for a specific session and she refused to give it back.  So he told her that he would write a rip off review if she didn't.

She seems to be saying that it was apparently common knowledge that she doesn't do BDSM or whatever and that she should get to keep the deposit because he wasted her time.  

Too many unknowns and adverse inferences getting made based on biases.

GaGambler 94 reads
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13 / 42

I made a post that got caught up in random moderation asking some of the very same questions.

 
Personally I don't trust any hooker who gets a deposit even for one hour sessions. I do hate to kick a guy while he is down, but his first mistake was sending her that deposit, even if she is telling the gospel about what actually happened which I doubt seriously.

RespectfulRobert 105 reads
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14 / 42

Why would anyone send a deposit to a lady and then find out she doesn't perform bdsm after the fact? There are numerous ways for him to get that info beforehand including asking her, in a discreet manner, of course. If he really is blackmailing her, and I take her at her word unless I have convincing evidence to the contrary, I would advise her not to give a penny back.

GaGambler 100 reads
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15 / 42

"Why would anyone send her a deposit" PERIOD???

 
You are free to take her at her word if you'd like, personally I see way too many holes in her story, not to mention a VERY mercenary tone to her web site where it comes to deposits, cancellations, etc. and I would love to hear his side of the story before just taking her word for it.

AnotherDonJohn 101 reads
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16 / 42

I also am regretting I jumped to early conclusions.  

Deposit is always no bueno if the hobbyist has been around.

Rackhunter 107 reads
posted
17 / 42

VERY quick on the trigger to out a guy
This chick is dangerous
GREAT reason why guys should NEVER give out RLI

mrfisher 115 Reviews 107 reads
posted
18 / 42

Then when his back is turned hit him over the head with a frying pan.

Then you'd both be happy.

 
On second thought, maybe don't use. the pan, or he could then legitimately pan you in a review.

TheVoiceOfReason 103 reads
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19 / 42

What does she mean by blackmailing?  It sounds like that means either move forward with the BDSM session, return the deposit, or if you elect to do neither then he will write a rip off review.  Not exactly how most people think about blackmail.  

MasterZen 34 Reviews 98 reads
posted
20 / 42

and "mercenary tone" for sure.

I doubt "Fair and balanced" would come down on the side of her "policies".

DT_lover 188 Reviews 99 reads
posted
21 / 42

I wrote an answer (before reading the rest of the thread) based on the assumption the meeting had take place.  I would say the opposite if the meeting had not taken place and you are talking about refunding a deposit.

So happy I was able to re-write my post before it went up.

-- Modified on 2/14/2021 8:59:51 AM

Steve_Trevor 119 reads
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22 / 42

Yes, including you.

 
She asked a question. Why is there always a value judgment in these cases vs just answering the question?  

 
Her deposit rules are very specific, including under what condition a deposit will be refunded. I don’t like deposits by providers and I’ve never paid one, but when a provider has a published deposit policy it should be read before booking.  And if you don’t like the policy, don’t book with her.  

RespectfulRobert 108 reads
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23 / 42

Are you trying to lead the league this year? You are on quite a roll.

GaGambler 129 reads
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24 / 42

He went years without standing to the woke Twitter crowd, one of them must have REALLY fucked him over for him to finally realize he had a set of balls, unused balls of course, but balls none the less.

 
Now the irony is, he makes a LOT more sense than you do. You had the absolute worst reply on this entire thread when you actually suggested a hooker go to the cops over "blackmail" that only entailed writing a bad review. I guess I need to put on bet on you for BSU this year as it's plain that Zen is no longer a contender.

RespectfulRobert 102 reads
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25 / 42

And I told her no such thing re: the police. You don't like my posts, fine, but why resort to lying about them?

GaGambler 125 reads
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26 / 42

Your words are still right there for all to see.

 
Just in case you are too dumb to find your own post, here it is.

 
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/ter-general-board-12/do-you-have-evidence-of-this-threat-979974?page=1

RespectfulRobert 107 reads
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27 / 42

And then look at the name of the person you linked to. See any problems?

QueenBia See my TER Reviews 109 reads
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28 / 42

I am a lifestyle Domina & BDSM provider. Bullying is never okay, nor is switching up a session request after it has been booked. Nothing is worse, than thinking you have a GFE booked, then here comes Mr Wrong demanding caca you never discussed prior to playtime it's rude AF. BDSM sessions have to be planned & prepared for well in advance, and many providers do not offer these services.  

I would blacklist him. Let everyone know what he did, what he's attempting to do & call him out on his bs. No refunds. You booked a totally different session. Why should you be liable for his lack of respect & communication.  

If he writes you a bullshit review contest it. I just got a fake review 9/9. I notified TER & it is still up. I reached out to the community because it is wrong. How can a person write a fake review for free membership & get away with it in 2021 when I have required a deposit to book for over a decade?

Sending you positivity. I know it sucks when you are doing the right thing & some jerk wants to screw up your good reputation. Post on the provider only forum to warn others. DM me if you wish to share more. I am here to help. xoxo

Virtual hug sent.

GaGambler 102 reads
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29 / 42

The problem is I am stone cold fucking sober and I obviously can't fucking read. lol

 
My sincerest apologies. YES, I fucked up.  

 
Does this mean I have to be nice to you for the rest of the day??? lol

 
Once again, my apologies, I am going to blame it on the fact that I am still waiting for my Valentines date to show up, and I've had a bottle of Champagne sitting her chilling all morning, but I am waiting for her to get here before opening it.  Yes, I know that's a weak excuse, but it's the best I've got at the moment. My Bad.

36363jensen 4 Reviews 97 reads
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30 / 42

at least one person has book market the post for future use.  LOL

cks175 51 Reviews 131 reads
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31 / 42

I’m saying that based on the information initially provided.  With more detail, there’s a possibility that the response could escalate to notifying law enforcement of this guy’s behavior, but for now, at a minimum blacklist him and report to TER.

RespectfulRobert 149 reads
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32 / 42

That is a new one on me. But that's ok as he apologized and the apology is fully accepted.

MasterZen 34 Reviews 105 reads
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33 / 42

and disagreeing with her approach is not anti-provider.  

Nor is saying I would not book with her.

What part of my post did you think was anti-provider?

RespectfulRobert 115 reads
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34 / 42

You mocked her and added a stupid gif to further your anti-provider stance. And weren't you the guy who so many ladies on twitter were complaining about recently? I can now see why. Next time, if you are going to take a cheap shot at a woman and her business practices, just own it. Weaseling out the way you are trying to do now is pathetic. Don't be that guy.

36363jensen 4 Reviews 160 reads
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35 / 42

You're welcome to bookmark it if you want but my comment was not suggesting you.

GaGambler 153 reads
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36 / 42

but I certainly knew who you were talking about, just like you weren't surprised at all that I blame "sobriety" for my fuck up. lol

 
Ubersensitive Robert and I are never going to be friends, but I do own up to my fuckups when I make them. Oddly enough I rarely, if ever make them when PUI. lol

MasterZen 34 Reviews 124 reads
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37 / 42

I took a straight shot at her business practices, not at her personally. Moreover, you represent that I took a shot at all providers. Please explain how disagreeing with a single provider's business practices somehow represents being "against" all providers.  

If you like her business practices so much, why don't you simply say so? Better yet, go ahead and book!  

You are the guy who takes everything any provider says and defends it, no matter how wrong it may be. You are the guy who decides you need to protect any lady who gets any criticism, because obviously (to you) she needs your help. Yes, providers cannot possibly stand up strongly for themselves - they need you to jump in for them.  

Don't be that guy.

GaGambler 116 reads
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38 / 42

I can't possibly be the only one who is LMAO at the irony here.

 
Please Please Please tell us what happened with your and the Twitter Ho's that has your panties in such a twist?

MasterZen 34 Reviews 105 reads
posted
39 / 42

over a few hours and ample bourbon, as with all such stories.

Debra_Hollander See my TER Reviews 116 reads
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40 / 42

I'm not only a fan of yours, MZ, I'm also a bit of a bourbon aficionado.  ;-)

MasterZen 34 Reviews 118 reads
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41 / 42

I'll bring my best bottle of Pappy Van Winkle.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 107 reads
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42 / 42

When things went south.  My take is that if she actually met him to do the session, and that's when the bullying started, I don't think she's obligated to give the money back, but if it went bad BEFORE the session, then I think it depends on her deposit/cancellation policy.  He might be entitled to all, part, or none of the money back.  

 
With that said, you are right about him not being able to review her if they cancelled BEFORE the session.  If he writes the review and didn't see her, she can get TER to remove the review.  Its only a problem if they met in person, even for 10 minutes, because then he can write a review.  

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