In the general detail of a review it started with this message.

*ADMIN NOTE: The Provider disputes this review*

http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/detail/freya-fantasia-review-by-jrohan-2198608

Is this new? Is this the start of provider input into review?

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Never seen that before.  Weird because it its a positive review.

you leave off the "s" after http.  Please edit.  Thanks.

The review is one of her worst in years but the text reads very positively which is what I think you are referring to.

 
I wonder what she is contesting? The sex acts? If the date took place at all?

 
I think TER should be more specific in the review body, but kudos to them if this is the first step in the right direction.

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The review is so generically written what there is to contest and I don't know how she could even claim it didn't happen unless she happened to take the time period involved off from work. What is obvious is that although the review is positive the score is one of her lowest and THAT is exactly why many providers used to come on the board whining that sessions never happened.

 
This is hardly something that you should be using as an argument FOR providers being able to contest their reviews, this is a much better argument for why they should NOT be allowed to do so. We are opening the door to every subpar review being contested, and THAT is why this idea has been roundly rejected every time it's been brought up.

Good point, but I’ve also seen providers on twitter claim a lot of their reviews are exaggerated and they don’t do the services that the reviews claim they do. I’ve also seen providers say they don’t like reviews because it makes them feel pressure to not say no.

It USED to be the case that starting a link with "https" wouldn't work. Now it does. I do it all the time.

We need more info. We don't know why she is contesting and we don't know TER's new rules on this. Lets dig and find out what her beef is, what the protocol is, and then judge it on its merits.

It's so generically written there are only two reasons for her to contest it, one of course is the numerical score, the other is if the date never happened, and surprise, surprise her lowest scoring review turns out to be the one she can't remember happening.

 
I HATE this idea, it's only going to lead to more of this kind of thing.  

 
I will concede that if providers are ONLY allowed a brief sentence "The provider disputes this review" I could probably live with that. It will be obvious if a provider starts disputing every low score she gets and as long as she can't go on a rant that the reviewer was "stankin" or otherwise denigrate the reviewer I probably wouldn't object to this one single line that she disputes it. One sentence is very easy to ignore, which is exactly what I plan on doing when providers start contesting reviews like this one.

and naive newbie as he is, he thinks really hot means really hot, and above and beyond means above and beyond.

The joke is on the reviewee as she is now tagging herself as being difficult, and this could cost her business.

It doesn't take much to realize a whole bunch of these reviews are fake, simply submitted for the purpose of gaining free  VIP days. I can copy/paste that review, throw a dart on the board, and apply it to any hooker in here and it will probably be approved. The more generic the review, the less believable it is. Yawn, next....But the disclaimer on top is interesting at least. It appears to be a push back against the recent rash of delisting by hookers, to try and pacify them a bit.

See how many 10/10 reviews will have that note and will be called *fake*  .

He gave her 8/8, that  lowers her score, hence the dispute.  

If he needed days for VIP he would give her higher score.  

Kudos to TER for leaving the note vs removing it. But yet, it's still not good enough for you all.

I am 60 y/o and have read 10 of thousands of news papers and technical documents.
I can read between the lines and decide for myself what is the truth.

If you can not, sorry I can not help you.

 I like the fact that I know what ever the reviews state, she does not agree.

No need for TER to be more specific, we will be just left with he said/she said.  This Note is perfect if you really need provider's response.

He is just not experienced enough yet and didnt't  get the memo that 10/10 must be given no matter what to keep hookers happy.  

that my reviews are exaggerated and I never done services described, when in fact, I did it all and more. Just because I did it with others, doesn't mean  it is easy for me to do it with you. TER blame comes handy here.

Because it was a fake!  

Now I have no dog in this other ladies fight but I'm going to need a lot of y'all to stop acting like we only dispute them if it's mediocre or bad.

Bye.

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No, actually, I have had someone tell me that a reviewer said I didn't kiss, and that is just bogus information, so why WOULDN'T a provider be able to contest some misinformation being circulated about her? ESPECIALLY, when the bad info can cost her business. Can you see where an ex could sign up and wreck her business? I also had to have a lot of BS changed years ago, when a couple of guys MADE UP encounters so they could get the free VIP upgrade! They made up a phone number and totally distorted my physical characteristics & I had to spend a lot of time back and forthing with the mods to get the correct info presented here ...

I didn't go read any of this stuff, but in general the idea of gaming the system (free VIP time reward) by writing fake reviews has to be a common occurrence.   Providers are really the only ones who might know if a review is fiction.   Absent that, we really have no idea what percent of the reviews on TER are fake.

When I responded I did a quick look at her profile and noticed recent 8s.  That’s not a bad score.   The number system is so subjective anyway, it’s probably the least important factor I look for.

I don’t think anyone here knows what admins thinking or plan is for noting the provider disputes the review.  Did they do away with the dispute process and so a provider can no longer have a fake review deleted?   That’s not good, because I don’t want to have to second guess if a review is fake or not.

Or is that an interim notation until the dispute gets sorted out?  Either way, it’s not a good look for for either reviewer or provider.

In her case, it’s clearly he said/ she said.  

There is no way TER going to lower their standards.

Good for her to state an objection.. Only problem is that the objection does nor define whether it is a fake review or whether an aspect of the review is disputed.

Why?  Because if they gave all 10s and it was her latest review, back in the day when TER dominated they would be inundated with massages from other guys asking if she was really that good.  A guy who wrote fake reviews even posted the "how to" guide on another site about this.  He write a fake review about me... it was eventually removed without me having to do much because TER was on to him...  He gave me 9/8.  Whatever.  If he didn't compensate me for my time I don't want him profiting off me.

 
The review in question very well may be a fake because it's so generic and the scores are good, but not great.

 
It may also be a provider crying foul because the scores lower her overall score, which is something a lady who is a full time provider and completely dependent on that income (especially if she has no other skills in life) might get hung up about it.  That is understandable.  Most of us don't care about scores as long as they are acceptable.  The Top 10 feature isn't a deal breaker.  It feels good to be well-reviewed but it feels better to be well-paid.

 
Or maybe the reviewer be new and think 8 is really good because 10 doesn't actually exist.. and let's be honest, there are ladies with pages of 10s in appearance that are maybe a 7 on a good day in looks.  How many times have you met someone and been slightly disappointed in what you saw?  Very few "one in a million" exist as there are too many pretty ladies out there.  If a lady has pages of only 10 reviews then she's a 10 at working the system, not necessarily a 10 in bed, lol... I can appreciate that as well.  You need to be clever about your marketing.

 
What her pages of reviews DO tell us is that she is a consistent and professional provider.  She may not be a 10 in every department for you, she may be a solid 8 on all counts, she may not be your type at all, but she doesn't rip people off.  Her appearance is acceptably attractive AT A MINIMUM or else there would be more reviews stating that it wasn't.   Look at her photos and decide you if  think they're real enough.  Read her copy and see if she's someone whose personality you like.  Hope you have chemistry when she opens the door.  But if you play by the rules so will she.  Even with 100s of reviews it's still a risk to meet someone new.  You don't know for sure until you meet in person.

 
I will also point this out because I experienced it myself... I had reviews that were 10s and suddenly they were lowered to 7s and 8s... There are ladies that complained that my scores were too high to the moderator, that the reviewer MUST be lying.  Ones that had never even met me but they thought I was hurting their business by outscoring them, as ridiculous as that sounds... YES, THIS HAPPENED YEARS AGO.  They would give the moderator a freebie and he would leave the text and lower my score to please her. And raise her scores. The he would offer to do the same thing for me if I saw him for free.  With crazy logic and backstabbing like that the only thing you can do is ignore all parties involved.  The cream does rise to the top and if you're the real deal, the clients will line up for you.  

 
The new management seems to not being doing all things the same way.  That is a good thing.  At least they're trying to address the flaws in the system.  This is probably a work in progress.  Maybe even an experiment to see how people react?   It will be interesting to see how it all works out.  The reviews haven't been posted as furiously and regularly as they were in the past but they may change as things settle back in.  And then we'll get a better feel for who is complaining about reviews over petty grievances and who's posting fake ones.

 
What we are seeing right now is that those who are trouble makers, both clients and escorts, are becoming obvious through their usage of this platform and many others.   It has been an eye-opening year for me.

 
Be smart, read about who you're interested in meeting and then go with your gut.  You may make a mistake, she may be good but not great, she may even be a total ripoff, but at least you have a place to post about it.  It's all part of the game.  Stay safe.  Have fun.  This is a hobby after all, right?  Look for the good where you can and if you sense something amiss, move on.  Not every provider is right for you and not every hobbyist is right for me.

 
Best, Alex

I have had providers I see tell me all manner of horror stories about customers showing up for an appointment with hygiene or health issues, and that, even if she doesn't send them away, it necessarily follows that not everything on her usual menu will be available to them.  Its incumbent upon mongers to arrive fresh and clean, or else take SOME OF THEIR PAID TIME to shower at the incall just before the action.  The same goes for health issues, if guys have toe fungus, cold sores, sniffles, a cough, jock itch, scabs on their dicks, or any other manner of potential contagions, they should not be taking them into a provider's workplace.  You would think this would be common sense, but from what many providers have told me, many customers are clueless.  

 
For the record, I always make sure, at the time that I book, that a shower is available to me at the beginning of a session.

Maybe she don't do Greek any more or bbfs so she don't want every dude asking for it.

What do you care about one fake review? You've got clients coming out your ears and don't need new clients, obviously.

So why do you care if they say you smoke or don't, as your listing says non-smoker.

You've lost more clients through your lunatic posting these past days than one fake review that says you smoke. This is hooker math at play here.

You've been around here for YEARS and you should know better. You've certainly have been around long enough to no longer be 31-35, that's for damn sure, especially since you were admitting to being well over 30 five years ago.

 
But that brings me to your major lie. For those of you who haven't been around here for ten plus years they might not know how the volunteer mods worked back in the day. The discussion board mods had NOTHING to do with the reviews system and less than nothing to do with the scores. What you are accusing your local mod of doing not only did NOT happen, it could not have happened. The review approval process  was ALWAYS done by paid admin for this very reason. Your local mod had no ability to change your scores.

 
So this brings me to my major question. WHY did you feel obligated to tell a bald faced lie? EVERYONE who has been here any length of time knows you are full of shit, so why tell such an obvious lie that you had to have known you'd be called for? This raises another question of course, since you just told a whopper of a fucking lie, what else are you lying about?

GaGaGoofball, you have always turned to ridiculous attached when someone doesn’t agree with you.   Must suck to be you since most do not agree with you. This is just another example of your inability to be an adult and play nice.

Your response post proves my point:  the bad people  always show who they are through through their aggressive and immature posts.  Thank for proving my point by being a bully and attacking me with blatant lies and unfounded petty grievances.

As we say in the dance world, you just got served.

I play "nice" all the time. I guarantee you I have more hooker buddies here than you do, but I can't let BLATANT lies like yours go unchallenged. It's not like you could have made an innocent "mistake" about this, so you had to have lied intentionally,  

 
LUCY, you got a lot of splaining to do.

 
BTW, I just took a quick look at your reviews and most of your "7's" for performance have come in the last few years well AFTER the local mods were replaced with paid Admin. There is no way to give a "freebie" to a paid TER admin if you wanted to. You don't even know what country they are in.  If you are going to lie at least be good at it. Don't blame me just because you don't know how to cover your tracks when you make ridiculous claims.

I’ve never claimed to be “well over 30”... I’m still not “well over 30” lol... take a look at my reviews maybe?  Or just continue to back channel as you usually do about all of the women here who expose what a lying jackass you are.  I’m sure you’re already taking smack about me now... aren’t you going to be late to your white supremacist support group meeting?  Or is today your misogynistic strategy group for men with small penises group meeting?

You aren't REALLY going to claim you are under 35 are you?????? You aren't going to claim you have been using pictures that are over TEN YEARS OLD  are you? Confronting people with the truth so they don't deceive is NOT bullying me dear, it's looking out for the community.

Here's a post from four years ago where you admit to being "Mid thirties" Did you find a fountain of youth sometime in the last four years.

 
AND, there are more posts where you admit to being over thirty going back a LOT longer than four years ago.

 
So are you a pathological liar, stupid, or some kind of combination of the two?

 
BTW I am no more white than you are 30. roflmfao

You’re a self-hatibg individual so it’s but a surprised that you hijacked this thread  to harass me and Lexi and any other woman you comes across your path.  You’re “evidence” is weak at best. I have all of the message and emails from the person who changed my scores. He says he was a moderator, I believe he was at some point, but he was a close friend of David Elms and he had some sort of power.  I’m using the title “moderator”  describe him but he’s was more than just that. You’re getting hung up on one word because that’s how your slow brain world instead of looking at the  actual content of my post... it’s sad when you use an anonymous handle to socialize instead of getting out to meet real people.  Please take your medication before your respond yet again.  

I’m busy with clients today because the real men like a real woman like me.  I’ll have to check your whiny response when I have time.

*Mic drop*

Isn't that nice coming from a girl who is well known for REVIEW SCORE MANIPULATION. Face it Alex, you are OVER FORTY and why is THAT so hard for you to admit? I am over FORTY as well. See how easy it is?

 
And just as an FYI, it is common knowledge here and for EONS that GaG is Asian and NOT white so your "white supremacist" remark is the sign of someone who has given up totally re: the truth.  

 
GaG HATES white supremacy and all forms of racism as he has stated here about a hundred times or so but keep digging. Casting HIM as a racist is certainly helping your cause. NOT!

 
You are a disaster. You get called out for your bullshit, make up wild lies about the person who called you out, then wont defend ANY of your lies.

 
And update your pics please. Using photos when M*A*S*H was still showing first run episodes really makes you look like the deceptive person you really are. Sad!

Just yesterday I just saw a group of Black Lives Matter peeps on CNN and I would say 30-40% of them are white supremacists. OMG you are SO dumb.  

 
Do you even read the stupid shit you post? It's filled with..."he says"..."I believe"..."at some point"...yeah real confidence inspiring! But I am sure you know MORE about the sitch than GaG, as he is a former mod here. LOL

 
And GaG isn't anonymous you moron as he has been outed; something he has been VERY open about here.

 
Alex, the hole you are digging is now SO deep you are on the verge of breaking ground and landing you in Wuhan, China.  

 
Please wear a mask while there for the protection of your health, as there is NOTHING to wear there, or here, to protect your disintegrating reputation.

Check out your profile, honey bunch. Not the 30 something you claim anymore huh?  

 
Happy Birthday! Looks like you had TEN of them all just today.

 
***MIC DROP***

Just check out your own profile, you skipped right past the mid thirties all the way up to FORTIES. lmao

 
But please don't let that stop you, I am eagerly awaited another lesson about race from an old white woman, or are you 1/1064 native American like old lying white woman?

She is very busy fucking her johns at the moment. Now when they go home, can they contact the BBB to ask for a refund since she aged 10 years since the start of their dates with her today? LOL

 
Alex is a BIG fan of the BBB so maybe she will chime in and let us know?

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and then there is this ad from yesterday.

 
Even Aldo can't seem to work his usual magic. lol

 
BTW if anyone needs a couple of VIP days, I am sure Admin will give you a Plus 2 for a heads up about her misleading (lying) ad posts.

 
Maybe it's something in the Philly water? Remember all the meltdowns BSCTaylor used to have on that board? (and other boards of course)

.......but I have seen this lady several times and she is a great person, provider, and damn good looking.  

I guess I am old school, but I do not like talking about a person until they are in the "room" and can explain, if they so desire.  

Perhaps I am missing the whole point of this conversation,  not the first time.

I got a late start leaving from a Lunar New Year overnighter with an Asian girl, who very rarely have attitude like some of our OTH white hookers here lately.  I would have argued that she was LATE- 40's, based on her out-of-date website photos.   You guys have all the fun.  Lol

She will be "Over 50" by the time my order from Olive Garden arrives in about 30 minutes.

In order for TER to survive and prosper it does not just need reviews. It needs guys who PAY for reviews.  

I will not pay for reviews that allow the girls to publicly comment or dispute.  

TER became a powerful review board by being client-centric.  Its reviews were never supposed to cater to the hookers in any way.  

Disputes should be done privately as was always the case.

Amen to that!  

Hope WK who started “ New , Improved,  and Kindler, gentler TER “  will see this post.  Bet he never paid for VIP, so he is coming with those ridiculous suggestions.  

Too bad TER is listening.

but if you do, I think you could manage it.

On that note, it holds people accountable on both ends, because we know there are a lot of people who will write revenge reviews, or are just plain negative.

Sure, it could be that way on both sides, but you and I and everybody does know that there are men who aren't as cool as you, right?

So to have a word helps.

I remember reading a Yelp review and I was like, "Wow. This lady is really going off on this company. They couldn't have been this bad." Then I read the response, and I thought, "Wow. This company isn't going to last long, and they completely validated the negative review."

Some responses do help the consumer understand more of the story so they don't miss out on something good. People are here for "something good" and if a response makes or breaks that, I mean... why not?

It's helped me avoid places, and also not near miss great places.

Agreed GaGambler, AM was caught in a stone cold lie...

I can't recall another like it since the days of BSC Taylor. I mean TWO MELT-DOWNS in the SAME thread! And yours is even better than Lexi's because you were not only caught in a BLATANT lie but ended up shooting yourself in the twat and getting your profile age raised. Just another reason why this board actually provides a fine service by letting the stupid out themselves.
You go, girls!
And thanks for giving me the chance to trot out this old gif I use to use on BSC Taylor.

BUY entertainment like this.  Lol

I have verified every review that I’ve gotten.  A lot of times I know who they are from screening because they used their reviews and white listings for that.  But if I don’t know who they are, I reach out to them and I ask for them to send me their email or phone number so I can verify who they are before I whitelist them.

So if I am disputing a review it’s because they couldn’t prove who they were and TER also could not prove who they were.

Because a lot of times, if they want to stay anonymous, they don’t reply to me and verify who they are. Then TER will get back to me and say they are leaving the review because they know who they are and they believe that it happened for whatever reason.

But now they are not removing fake reviews. There have been some that have been obviously fake because they say something like I started by doing a lap dance in a chair, which I hadn’t done in a year, or they loved my red velvet comforter, which I’ve never owned and there was no hotel that had one either, or another one says that they got to my Incall and we walked upstairs hand-in-hand, and my in call was a one story building. These are all reviews that I have gotten. Then I knew were fake. And many of them were left up.

And you guys are wrong when you say that we only dispute the negative reviews. I have disputed reviews that were above my averages because I don’t think it’s safe for someone to be able to write a handful of fake reviews. They can use that for screening.  And once the first few get up there then the rest are presumed to be real and as long as he’s giving numbers that are above average most people will leave those up. But I never did. I disputed any reviews that I couldn’t verify.

Now TER says they’re not taking down anymore Reviews. They are no longer Going to help me verify reviews before I whitelist a person or before fakes get left up.

So enjoy your fake reviews you guys.

why did you dispute the review? You still haven't stated what about the very generic review made it a fake review.

Considering this was his 1st review and he had no apparent posting history prior to the review, I don’t believe TER could prove who he was either. Yet they believed the session happened and kept the review up.

So, what was fake about it? Help us understand why you disputed it.

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