a pretty charming guy," and he doesn't "mean to toot" his own horn!

I think he forgot or doesn't understand the concept of a review, and I wonder how many ladies will be willing to see him after that review? When you've got to tell someone you're charming, you're not! And, if you have to say you don't mean to toot your own horn, then in reality, everything is about you, and you feel entitled to do whatever you wish.

You act like someone just pulled the curtain back and you see what's behind OZ....or you just found out there's no Easter bunny.

Yeah, the world is a shitty place full of shitty people who are sometimes so self-absorbed that they are dangerous in their lack of concern for other people. It happens every day. Sorry to break this to you.
This is the chance you take, and the world you choose to live in, every time you think it's great that you and your wife are so open minded that she goes out to fuck strangers for money.
You roll the dice every day, yet you seem to be surprised that you're actually gambling.

Good luck with that.

I will take out the lady's name as the review talks about a guy pushing a lady to do something she is not comfortable with but other than that it will be word for word.

"XXXX is the girl in the pics, pretty face, real C cups, small ass, a little muffin top that she's workin off, clean and drug free. Got there and immediately hopped in the shower, soaped up and played with her bits and pieces, DFK was very good although I prefer non-smokers. Out on the bed I had to take charge, she'll probably be more active on subsequent visits but seemed a little tentative. BBBJ is top shelf, great mouth, deep wet and slow with great suction and tongue action. DATY was good, she's very receptive and gets super wet. She was very relaxed after I finished the lick, so I crawled up and teabagged her. It was awesome, took both nuts in her mouth and used her tongue nicely while jacking me off. Threw on a cover and fucked her mish, she obviously likes to get fucked and enjoyed herself. Flipped her to doggie and got her toy going on her clit while I fucked her, when she gets going she really tightens up on you. I paused to grab some lube and she said, "I don't do anal". I hear this a lot from newbies, what you should say is, "I don't do anal, yet." I'm a pretty charming guy, I don't mean to toot my own horn here but "beep beep" ya know what I'm sayin? I talked her into some digital play and threw my dick back in her pussy once I had a finger in. I love rubbing my cock head from the third hole. She seemed to get into it a bit and I asked to play "just the tip" knowing she was down by now. Super-tight balloon knot, but it was warmed up and lubed and she was good at relaxing and receiving, very good for someone with limited experience. Asked her to put the vibrator in her pussy so I could get the "vibrating pussy" feeling while I was in her ass. Nice slow ass fuck to completion was amazing. I tried really hard to not pound her ass so she would consider doing it again. Afterward she said it was fun and she would allow some guys to try it from now on, so you're welcome fellow pooners, now go buttfuck this little redhead!

We showered again and talked about the market and how to manage her new career. She's very motivated to do well as a provider and I was happy to give her some advice. Told her to go down on me again and she got right after it. Excellent oral skills and for a few minutes I considered just doing the second nut there. But instead I bent her over the desk in front of the mirror and pummeled it until I was spent.

Really fun time, I would recommend her for all the reasons above. Enjoy!"

I get that we all have are our favorite positions and this guy must really like anal, but to pressuring a lady who tells you "I don't do anal" into preforming it is just wrong. Then after the fact put it in a review makes it even worse. I know many here would never pressure a lady into something but the behavior of the reviewer is not acceptable in my book. If a certain act is important to you just do your homework and see someone who is comfortable providing what you want.

Ladies do you get clients that try to push you boundaries like this?

I hope not as I find such behavior totally of line. And the dude is even bragging about it. Totally crass. But maybe I am just being a mangina, but in this case I don't think so.

hope it's not real, Phillip Roth couldn't draw a more convincing psycho-in-the-making.  Anyone who refers to another person as "it" sounds scary.  

As a side note, guys who want to share their anal experiences with other guys to this extent are gay.

Aside from a few generalities, like "excellent oral skills", it's all about what a stud the loser wants us to think he is, not about her.

PMing another one for you to maybe see if it's the same guy or not.

Will PM any providers that loser handle as well and a link to that review.

has been that they are lacking skill and/or ill equipped.  The ones who boast the most don't have anything going on and the ones who say the least have it all going on.

What bothered me about his review was not his boasting but the fact he pressured a lady to do something that was not on her services she wanted to give. My wife is a provider, guys like the one who wrote this review scare me. Next step is to get more forceful like the reviewer that impposter informed me of. He is even scarier. That losers reviews.

"Shower beforehand was very clinical, and not sensual at all. While I love thin girls, she almost seemed too thin in some ways, though it may have just been her overall demeanor, which was pretty beaten down. She has really nice hair, pretty tits and a nice enough body, but lacks any remote modicum of enthusiasm or major skills. Her BBBJ was adequate at best, and certainly lacking in effort. I enjoyed eating her tasty pussy, and got her off at least once while DATY, but she's really not interested in having her nipples sucked, for what that's worth. So, BBBJ was mediocre, and personality was bland, Which is always my prescription for really teeing off on the pussy. If a girl is nice, sweet and really attractive, then I am a true gentleman. But when I feel like I am being toyed with, and that this is far more clinical/professional, than I want, then I try to tear up the pussy so she'll remember me. Let's just say that XXXXX won't soon forget it. She has a nice tight pussy, and she's pretty compliant to being moved around. She did complain a lot about my "going too deep", but she came at least 3 and maybe as many as 5 or 6 times. She likes doggy somewhat, though again, not real enthusiastic. I split her in half with her legs wrapped around me, and she wasn't happy when I stuck my finger in her asshole while stuffed in her snatch, but screw her, literally =) So, all in all, she was fun to fuck, but not fun to be with, and I would not recommend her, unless you are seeking a relatively pretty rag doll that you can fuck into oblivion, without much feedback except her coming all over your cock, almost reluctantly so. She jacked me off to finish me, and was lame when it came to sucking cock, but slamming her doggie and grabbing that somewhat soft, thin ass, was still almost worth the price of admission. Almost."

Anther review from the same loser.

"XXXX is very passive, but she has a nice body. Sweet tasty pussy and really beautiful hair, and pretty enough. She is eager to please, though not that great at what she does sexually. That said, as soon as I started to spank her she responded like a crazy woman. She didn't seem to be into it at first, but once I warmed her ass up, I then really started laying into it and got her going. Pounding her from behind while spanking her hard was almost the highlight of the session. The top of the mountain was pushing her down flat on the bed from behind, and then the fun began. Working my cock into her ass, she went a bit crazy. Not sure if it was on the menu, but it is now. And man did I tear that ass up. Tight, warm and so soft, pounding her little brown hole was worth the price of admission. After awhile I pulled her back up to her hands and knees, so I could get back to spanking her while pounding that ass, and using her hair like a reign on a horse. Big fun. Dropped my load all over that jiggling ass, and went home happy."

This Kind of guys worry me. They are rough by their own account on the ladies they see and push the ladies they see to do things that they aren't offering. The entitled altitude they display would keep me if I was a provider. This stuff scares me for my wife. I don't want my wife to meet ether of these losers.  

I will PM any provider about the TER names of both of these losers and provide a link to these reviews.

If a provider offers something that's clearly NOT on her menu, or allows it,  that's something that should remain between the client and provider.   Definitely not for public consumption.  Perhaps she trusts you enough to do it, perhaps she's doing it to keep you coming back, whatever the reason nobody else needs know about it.

Maybe if he can talk all these gals into greek just for him it may be because they take one look at his member and realize that it couldn't possibly hurt.  I've thought about bringing a small funhouse mirror so that mine looks inviting to the female posterior.

I know want to see guys who act like gentleman and treat them with respect.  This guy is a loser.

I know the risks my wife takes all to well. My wife before I met her was drugged, raped, robbed, driven out to the desert and left to die. Why do you think I harp on screening so much? I know crap like this and much worse happens all the time.

I don't think it is great that she "goes out to fuck strangers for money." I would give up anything to get her to stop but I can't make her. This lifestyle was not my idea and if you actually read my posts you would know I don't think it is great. It was because I worry about my wife every time she goes and does what she does that I posted this.

The review bothered me so I posted about it. I have now posted about the scary reviews on the appropriate regional boards as well naming names to warn ladies about the two guy's that are referred to in this thread.  This post was put up as a warning. The review happened in my own back yard of Salt Lake but my regional board is useless.

My second date ever asked me about going there prior to meeting - I reminded him that my website states I don't visit the islands and I made sure he knew what I meant.

During our date, I had to stop him TWICE from going there, as he was actually heading that direction with full intention. The second time I stopped him I stopped what I was doing and actually physically had to MOVE MY BODY away from his to prevent him from doing so.  He was torqued but I didn't care.  
I would have ended the date at that moment but he let it go, literally.

Respect the provider and she will respect you.

I really can't believe that TER allows a review like this to be posted.  Very sad and you're absolutely right...damn scary.

was pretty much FORCED to do what she didn't want to do. It has another name on the streets; it's four letters and starts with an "R." But then, this kind of loser "knows" that providers can't / won't go to ellie about it. So, he takes what he wants - which is what scoed and all sane providers are rightly so afraid of.

oh and the person will be moderated as well.

I am inclined to agree with Spike, but I am leaving the thread up for the time being.

Just remember, outing someone on the board for any reason is grounds for moderation.

"My second date ever asked me about going there prior to meeting" I hope you've learned from this situation. That type of question should have been grounds for you to hang up immediately on this client.  Veteran hobbyist NEVER mention things like that over the phone. And it should be in every ad and or web site you have.

Outing is not permitted here, not for any reason.

If anyone doubts my sincerity on the subject, there is one way to find out.

We werent on the phone and it is on my website but thank you for the constructive advice.

The point was about the man's behavior, and how often this happens, NOT about me.

-- Modified on 1/9/2011 9:24:36 AM

chickenlittleism going on.
(yes I have spell check)

First of all, the reviewer has been the incall locations on multiple occasions. If he was such a bad guy they would have banned him from returning. The places he frequents will throw a bad guy out in a heartbeat. I know them.

Secondly, did anyone stop to think that the reviewer is fantasizing and embellishing his reviews? We have guys who write romance novels that are far from the truth and guys who write like they are the biggest studs on Earth.
I would agree that a provider who is properly screening will read his reviews and decide whether is is worth the risk. That is a provider's right and I agree with any provider who does not want to see this guy. many guys are rejected over their reviews.

The husband and wife team of scoed need to police themselves and let providers use their own judgment. As helpless as the scoeds seem to think everyone else is in TERland, providers are generally intelligent enough to choose who they want to see and who they don't.

If you want to warn providers, take it to the PO Board like Spike suggests, or take it PM. You two need to check yourselves.

PS: You are not permitted to post juicy details of a review on the boards. You two should be moderated until you learn the rules.  
 

But the hanging up and blocking the number is a good plan.

I don't see a word in the review where he claims to have "forced" her to do anything.

Personally I think everyone is getting there panties in a wad over nothing, but this certainly isn't the first time that has happened.

I am not advocating what the guy did. No should mean no, but all these calls to hang the guy by his balls seem a little over the top to me. That is if we even believe the review to begin with.

This is why outing people is not allowed on this board, mob mentality takes over and people are willing to hang this guy out to dry over what may very well be a total fabrication. Truth be told, I am seriously reconsidering my decision to allow this thread to stand. The OP has already outted the reviewer on another board and I don't believe the guy deserves to be lynched in the court of public opinion based on a overly sensitive guy's interpretation of a review that may or may not be based in truth.

If these guy's review was declined I would not have read them. If I did not read their reviews I could not sound the alarm about them. Now the alarm has been sounded you ladies can avoid them. Maybe that is why they accepted it. Stay safe.


P.S. I put the guys name out on regional boards. One on the New York and one on the other city's boards so if you can't PM me you can still stay safe from them if they give out there TER handle.

The difference in Scoed's review is that she said no, and he then pushed her to move beyond her comfort zone. Perhaps you aren't aware of just how common and  intense the pressure can at times be for ladies to agree to activities they are not comfortable with. But it happens alot, and its not acceptable.

Ladies are pushed to provide BBBJ when they feel safer sticking with CBJ, pushed to provide greek, pushed to provide BBFS, rimming, you name it, there is some guy asking for it, and not happy when he's told no.

We are threatened with bad reviews, walked out on, even recieve bad reviews from time to time, and sometimes worse when we say no to things we don't want to do. Most ladies with a good head on their shoulders stick to their guns and work within the boundaries they are comfortable with. Unfortunately some women, due to poor boundaries, or fear of consequences allow themselves to be talked into doing things they don't want to do. THen they have to live with it after he's gone. Maybe she shrugs it off and moves onto the next trick, and maybe she doesn't.

But it doesn't stop there. Not only did he talk his way into getting her to do something she didn't want to do, he compounds it by bragging about it, and actively encouraging others to continue taking advantage of her willingness to be pushed around. What a wonderful message to send to a pseudo-predator looking for a weak willed woman he can use. That is the only kind of man who would find that review encouraging.

Now do you get the difference? IF the lady is willing to get freaky, by all means knock yourself out. If she says no to something, drop it. Furthermore, if a lady does provide any service not on her menu - extra time, greek, BBBJ, etc - DON'T put it in a review! If its not on her menu, there is a reason for it, it should be up to her who and when she chooses to engage in that particular activity with, not the reviewer.

And not about you. How likely is it that the guys who write these reviews actually did what they said? Curious mostly.

People pretty much always lie about sex and money, in my experience, so I take a lot of what is written here with a very large grain of salt. There really is a lot of fiction in those reviews.

The quoted reviews are still unpleasant and dangerous in that they encourage others to try that stuff, maybe even attract the real sickos to that lady.

Yeah, scoed, you are being a mangina, and it is okay. But then I expect a provider to take care of me on a bunch of levels, and I try to return the favor. My .02.

Zig

Hey Scoed,

WTF?!!! Are you the provider police?
Yes the review makes this guy sound a little harsh (so he is a little dominate) but there is nothing that indicates that the provider was uncomfortable. If she was not into it she could have sent him packing. If the provider is experienced she would not have let it happened or she would have posted a warning about the hobbiest herself. Any girl who gets into this business should be aware of the risks involved.
I don't see a problem with his reviews.

I've said this before and I will say it again - This was a site created by hobbiest for hobbiest!! Not created by providers for providers (or there pimps!!).
There is a providers only board for threads like this.
Maybe you should have your "provider wife" post there for you.

"Nuff said!!

PS - your thread was removed on the NYC board.

hobbyist a "man".  He sounds like a real loser to me.

Hope you take the advice given here to prevent you from having to deal with this type of BS behavior in the future.

BTW, we haven't seen a review from your first date (NY Eve if I remember correctly).  How did it go?

Ticked me off because I didn't do it and write it.  Caution: its shocking, so you might want to unzip now.

General

XXX has a website that is must reading. Its hobby 101, but not for the squeamish. There does not appear to be anything she does not do. Hence, I am making her my review #101. I had my eye on her for quite a while and decided to see her for the first time when a business trip to Toronto became reality. I had tried once previously, as a paid member of her website, since she offered herself for free to paid members, but I was unable to partake due to the timing and the logistics of traveling to Canada. Finally another opportunity came up and I arranged to see her at her normal escort rates.

XXX is an hour North of Toronto, so while visiting Toronto I made arrangements for her to visit me in my hotel room. Booking is done through her husband XXXX, who is very nice and the process was simple. He definitely knows he has the greatest wife anywhere. On the day of meeting XXX, she called by phone to verify and soon she was at my door exactly on time.

XXX has long, wavy, thick red hair and she is tall. She looks to be a 40 something and is a very pretty MILF. She dressed in a kind of brightly colored sun dress showing lots of cleavage.

I spoke to her through the door and told her to cover her eyes...

VIP

At my door, I told XXX to wear a blindfold, before coming into the room. That way see could service me sight unseen. Once the blindfold was on, I open the door and guided her to a stuffed chair where I sat down and she kneeled. I was nude the whole time and Eve is still dressed.

Down on her knees she went and she sucked my cock. I knew I was going to spew this way, so I had a video camera nearby and recorded her servicing me sight unseen up to and including cumming in her mouth. I removed the mask, and we swapped my cum in a deep DFK.

At this point we sat, wiped our faces a bit and had a more formal introduction and a little small talk. XXX is smarter than most providers I have met and she is very no-nonsense, which I like. XXX loved to talk about gangbangs and sexual public exposure/flashing as well as discuss current events. After a few minutes, she asked me to unzip her from her dress and I felt her up and titty-sucked and then she sucked me to another erection. We covered up and I fucked her shaved puss. I liked the little patch of reddish mustache pubes high above her crack. I took her in a variety of positions and then she suggested I bang her ass some, which I did. I pulled out of her ass and she sucked me A2M. Wow. We kissed and I got to share in the spender.

She said she likes to be fisted, but it was the wrong time of the month to be doing that. She seemed as bummed as me, but I did not mind as she had plenty of fisting shots on her website. So I asked her to suck my toes and lick my feet, something new for her. She really got into it and even got five toes and a portion of my foot in her mouth all at once. She spent a lot of time doing this and really took her time. Watching me stroke myself through out, she finally came up for dick. She loves to suck cock. Almost as much as she likes to rim ass. Yum! XXX loves all things anal.

We took a few pictures of her cocksucking and toe-sucking and a few picks of her tits bound tightly in rubber bands. I asked her for further suggestions, as we still had time. She suggested I piss in her mouth. We went to the bathroom and she knelt in the tub. I then peed into her mouth and she had the greatest little pursed mouth - trained to take golden showers it seemed. Very photogenic through the whole delicious stew of our raunchy sex.

She cleaned up afterwards and we talked some more. Much of the conversation was about activities I don't think we can even mentioned on TER. Yet XXX does a lot more than just talk about them.

Toronto is one of my favorite towns now.

We finished up by her sucking me off under the hotel desk, while I keyboarded a few lines of this review.

can you pm the names of those guys and their reviews

I cried when I read that. How could anyone be so bad. That's superbad, man. Anyone got a moist towelette? I feel soiled.

Well, it's your board and your rules, but I have to state, for the record, that I completely disagree with you. I have absolutely no sympathy whatsoever for any man, be it a hobbyist or a civvie, who would abuse a woman in such a manner. Outing his handle on a public message board is the mildest punishment I can think of for a sonofabitch like that, and others need to be made aware of scumbags such as him.

And you people can derisively call me a mangina, a "white knight," or whatever the fuck you want. If that's the price of being a human being and caring about the welfare of others, then it's a price I'll gladly pay.

Honestly, I'm confused.  I've read the review twice.  It's weird and is pretty far from anything I'd be interested in.  But I fail to see anything wrong with the review or the conduct.  Unlike scoed's example, no one was coerced of forced in any way.  Both participants seemed to enjoy what they were doing.  Besides, there are many other forms of consensual sex that are much more extreme: scatting and blood play in particular.  If I've missed something (which certainly is possible) what was it?

Tell her she'll have more orgasms and/or change the world for the better...  (see link)

That's kinda how I feel about scoed's example.  I don't see the problem.  At what point is she forced?  I chose this review because its pretty patriarchal as well, which I felt is the pivotal thing.  I am kinda asking myself the same thing as you.  What am I missing?

Okay, thanks.  But to me there is a difference.  In scoed's example both girls tried to say no and were at least somewhat coerced/forced.  To me that's a big and important difference and your post is an example of when no coercion takes place.  If a provider says "no," that should be it.  End of story.  If the douchebag in scoed's example had tried it with a gal who had security, he would have been beaten to a pulp.

Nowhere do I see the words "no."  I see she says she doesn't do anal and then he rubs his penis against her asshole and she seems to like it.  And then she seemed to be into it, as the review says.  That's what I read.  Very different from saying no.

Of course this is based on the guys report.  But I kinda doubt she would shower with him and talk about her career with him, if she was forced into anything. I think coercion is being confused with braggadocio.

Re the screaming for help part, at least one provider has told me she has her own "muscle" in case anyone misbehaves.  Not sure (and didn't ask) how she'd let him know she needs help, and i don't know how typical this is.

I am dealing with the reprocussions of saying no right now in terms of not so flattering reviews as a consequence. I however, have been around long enough to know that reviews overall are not going to make or break me, & won't cower to such a threat or fear of. Younger &/or less experienced providers however, don't think this way, & can be more easily manipulated. Ladies more often than not will go along with what ever their perp is trying to get. They are in fact recommended to do so in many cases, so as not to make their perps feel threatened & do serious damage. I call it the "monumental-mind-fuck." This guy should be castrated!

I second that -  take note of my comment earlier.  I doubt the guy I saw would write a very friendly review after me telling him no twice.  Sad to say, I think some providers are in such a way financially or with their self esteem that they give in more easily to manipulation. Or like you said are threatened with bad reviews or by the man himself.  

I'm fine and so is my business WITHOUT the reviews.  No woman of ANY profession should "go along" with anything she does not want to do when it comes to her personal space.

no on was getting pushed out of their comfort zone and the guy did not refer to the provider as "it". And the guy also did not bring something up the lady did not normally provide.

I am moderated. And I don't care. I did what I felt is right. I stand by what I did.

boundaries are pushed quite frequently.   The reviewer described her as a newbie.   Oft times, new providers feel the pressure to give in and go along with things.... because they do not yet know that they have a voice and can say "NO" and "Fuck you, get out".    This man is describing a sexual assault.

I never was a client of hers but I do know her. She is a very sweet lady. I have talked to guys that have seen her and anal is not on her menu. It can be very scary for a lady to say no to a persistent guy. I am as safe as they come but if I wanted to I could do some serous damage. There is a lot of pressure to preform especially if you are new. I have not talked to the provider in question but I have no trouble believing the review.

to those who just "didn't get it." The lady said "no" and that SHOULD have been the end of it. RR said "no" and it should have been the end of it the first time she said it; at least he stopped on the second one.

She says she doesn't do anal.  Then he says she likes it when she feels his penis against her asshole.  Then he reports she reinforces it further by saying she seems to be into it.

Of course the whole review is probably fake.  But the reviewer never says she said no.  

BTW — nobody says they like anal at first.  Its usually a process to get them to try it.  Far cry from fantasied coercion.

when Bubba has you bent over the jailhouse bunk and isn't listening to you saying that you don't like anal.  You'll get used to it eventually.

I think it is horrible that anyone would push a provider or any other person out of their comfort zone. To brag about it and take pride in it makes it worse. Then to tell others she will do it for them even more vile.

To those who think I am over protective of providers let me say this, I don't care what you think. My wife is a provider, I have provider friends, and I enjoy seeing providers, so yes I am very protective of providers. I have no plans to change. Call me what ever you wish.

This ladies do not enjoy as much protection under the law as civie women because of there job. If they report a crime that happened at work, they may go to jail. It is a fact.  Many women who do this don't even have the support of family and friends. Women by nature are weaker than most of there male clients. Providers are in a position of volubility that would be difficult for most to understand. I know of two providers that have been raped while working, one of which is my wife. I know the lady the review in the OP was about and I have many provider friends including my wife, is there any wonder I am protective.

This is not a case of hobbyists verses providers we both benefit if we protect the other. What hurts one hurts all. Because of the risks providers face and because much of a providers business is gained word of mouth and reviews providers can feel forced to do things they don't wish to do when alone with a client who put pressure on the lady to do a thing. Fact is it can be difficult for them to be vocal about such abuses. They happen and are not rare. I have been PMed many such stories from providers since I started this thread. Plus I have heard many such stories from provider friends including my wife.

The behavior shown in the reviews I have posted is not acceptable. If the reviews where fabricated then they encourage others to behave as such toward the ladies and given the risks of the profession this is harmful to the ladies. If they where not fabricated then while they did not rape the ladies they did put them in a very bad position that could be rape like.

"I don't do anal" means NO to anal, end of story. If anal is or any other service is important then book a lady that advertise she does it or has a long review history of providing said service. Don't try to change a ladies offerings to suit you. If you do you are potentially hurting the lady and that is not cool.

I do not regret bringing up these reviews. I should have paid closer observance to the rules on the regional boards, breaking the rules I do regret as I handled it wrong. I got moderated as a result and likely deserved it. I do not regret bringing the reviews to everyones attention.

The ladies deserve to be warned, and I don't care what any of you say. Yes, they are grown women, but how can they protect themselves if no one shares determinative information with them? I in know way told any lady who to see or not see all I did was share what I know. I gave no personal information besides what was already on TER if one knows to look.

One of the guy's reviews that I posted about has now been pulled. I do not know if my posts had anything to do with it but if so I am glad. Such reviews are potentially hurtful to the ladies that are in them. And in my opinion should be pulled. I will still PM any lady who wants the information what information I have.

Everyone have a nice day.

it should not be allowed.  Forcing (coaxing) someone to do something that they are not 100% certain they want to do, borders on rape and should not be allowed on this board.

So, I take it English is not your first language? Or is it that reading comprehension is just a challenge for you? Or maybe you are just looking for a loophole to excuse your own predatory behavior? The instant she said she doesn't do anal, he should have dropped it, period.

We didn't listen to a recording of the encounter, so we don't know word for word what was said, but you can guarantee that "I don't do that" is code for "NO, I don't do that". It really takes a special kind of stupid to attempt to interpret that any other way. If she was willing, then WHY in the hell did the reviewer detail his efforts to coercce her in the first place?? If she had been willing, the reviewer would have "She said she didn't do that, but was willing to try". Do YOU see that in the review?

You really don't get what being on this side of the envelope can be like. There isn't a provider out there who hasn't been pushed to do things they don't want to do. And there are plenty of providers who are sucspetible to manipulation and coercion. That does NOT make it ok to manipulate or push their boundaries. Moreover, what really makes this egregious is that after he pushed her into doing something she didn't want to do, he openly encourages other men to keep pushing her around.

Honestly, if you can't see what is wrong with that review, you have NO business hobbying yourself. Hell, you have no business dating for that matter.