I have recieved numerous emails this morning about a supposed conversation I had with Michelle Aston that went down on Chat last night...
For the record I AM NOT ANT EATER...
I was out celebrating my 23rd wedding anniversary with my husband...
I do not appreciate anyone talking about my personal struggles in public nor talking about my finances,my living conditions and especially my children...
I have the transcripts
I have sent a letter to staff verifying my aliases and that no one from my IP was logged on to TER  after 6 pm EST

I am sorry that some people thought that was me but I do NOT engage in public catfights...

Filters the following

1 - Mean Spirited
2 - Rude
3 - Offensive
4 - Mentally ill or unstable
5 - Emotionally Insecure
6 - Drug Users
7 - Drunks

Once applied - the room emptied...

Sorry you were caught in one of those nights - and weren't even there...

For what it's worth, though, Happy Anniversary.

although I told Michelle at least 10 times last night that I wasnt Miki. Her tiresome speculation that I was Miki ,Betty, Trek and also that Miki was my ATF was so typical of her. Michelle took it on her own to attack Miki,her photos are all doctored by photoshop, her family and children, her bout with alcohol and unbelievably even brought into it a well known NY hobbyist that has set her up with so many doubles in NY you would think at least she would have the decency to keep his privacy. Cant believe any provider would bite the hand that has fed her for so long but thats his problem.

Why did she do this??? Because she wants to hurt Miki anyway she can.

Sorry Miki I made every attempt I could to tell her it wasnt you, what can I tell you other than she has no class at all and you seem to be the current target of her venom.

Now to clear it all up so everyone knows who it is. My real ID is Bill18356, I don't think Michelle is a 10 by any stretch ofthe imagination and I told her that and a few other things while I was at it.I dont care who likes it, agrees with it or whether she wants to hear it,same as everyone else she was shamelessly trashing while she was in chat last night. It all started when I went into chat and she was threatening to call some poor guys wife and employer, that vile type of mindset will always tick me off and it was time we had at it. Anyone that knows me realizes Im not one to pull punches and I donthide behind aliases to speak my mind. The only reason I dint say who it was last night is because I wanted to let her continue to make an ass out of herself. Mission accomplished, thanks Michelle

she's real and caring. There are few like that in this business. Happy Anniversary your Milfness.

Kisses and Hugs,
Anneke

Anyway, I hope you had a great anniversary despite all the hoopla around here.

Hugs,
Ciara

Yeah, Bill, right.  Mission accomplished.  

I'm not defending anything Michelle did whatsoever.  What she did totally stinks, it was shameful.  I can't say how appalling it was.    

Your account of this, why you did it, and that final "Mission accomplished" is sickening.   And I don't buy your "excuse" nor is your denial "at least 10 times" that you were Miki make any difference whatsoever here.  You knew the perverse consequences that you wanted to get, that  somebody innocent was going to get hurt.  Yet, you went on with it.    

You don't deserve to come out of this making yourself sound like some kind of crusader.  

What you really were was a very clever stalker, who had it in for Michelle for a long time.

-- Modified on 12/11/2005 12:40:37 PM

stop your self righteous bullshit. If I left she would have trashed Miki anyway in fact I went away a couple times and looked back at log and she continued trashing her. I'm not responsible for a luntic with no measures of decency. Im not a crusader, my post was to make sure everyone knew this wasnt Miki in chat and that Michelle knew full well its wasnt Miki. If you think for one minute Michelle isnt looking and finding any reason to trash Miki you really have your head totally up your ass. Once again you werent there and dont have a clue other than wild speculation. Then again thats pretty typical of you.

Now rub along and play your littlw white knight game somewhere else.

-- Modified on 12/11/2005 12:58:13 PM

with his post - outing himself, owning up to his motives (whether one agrees with them or not), and attempting to control (and hopefully end) the collateral damage and fallout.

While I was not in chat last night, I have heard about it - from many and varied sources, above and beyond what has been written here. I have seen a transcript of part of it.

All I can say is . . . I think I may have to get the Kissinger hat out of the closet.

Peace to all.

I'm glad he's onto something.  

I've got to see that transcript.

For the ones who knows me, I do NOT mingle, party, get cozy or interact with ANY provider out of the boards.
I try to keep a friendly relationship with all the girls I think are nice and respectful and I definitely stay away from the ones I think are not worth my attention and time.
When I have to say anything to someone, providers or posters of the boards, I will say it, UP FRONT, with my name and not aliases.
I only use aliases when I need to warn about LE stings or I want to post something personal without having it connected with me. The TER moderators can vouch for that.
If I don't have anything interesting to say, I keep my mouth shut. Period.
I've been in the internet business for over 7 years and I always kept to myself and I will never change the way I am.
I have a website that draws between 15 and 20 thousand visitors a day for the past 3 years, my mailbox is always filled with inquiries and I truly don't have the need to be jealous of anyone out there.
I'm not hurting for business or recognition. My reputation is already made and I don't need to be on the spotlight every single minute of the day.
I have my own niche, lots of steady clients and I don't waste my precious time minding other providers affairs.
Because I stay away from all the hoopla, many consider me stucked up and I know the grapevine is alive and going behind my back.
Do I worry about? Do I care? NOPE...I have many things to deal every day and the last in my mind is the "he said, she said" shit that is part of many of your lives.
So, please leave my name out of this mess, as I don't know the people involved
I never met, talked or chatted with any of them.
In my experience, the good clients, the lurkers, the ones who really are our "bread & butter" will avoid the drama queens like a plague.
In a business where is important to be discreet & trustworth, shit like this are not beneficial and will only cast the kind of attention a real good provider should avoid.







-- Modified on 12/11/2005 2:09:21 PM

Bill denied being Miki more than a dozen times.  Michelle viciously attacked Miki and her family. It went on for more than 30 minutes.

She wallows in viciousness.  It will only continue, until Dave takes some action.

When I finally get my hands on a transcript, I'll see how well it stays on the road.

I just wanna borrow some of your reviews Ok ?

LOL

to make you look bad. Whatever did the misrepresentation know who they are, to them I say get a life that has some meaning and significant accomplishment in it.

I know, I know, your usernames are alias' to start, but they are also tags that other members can square off with us via PM.
Who is to say that the username that was given in the post was not another lie masked as truth.

which is obvious from the post itself.

While I can understand your scepticism, the username he admits to is NOT a lie - trust me on that.

Without excuse from Michelle.  

She has been "outed" before, she knows how it feels.  Very calloused of her.  Extremely mean.  

I'm totally stunned by this.  Not only to make a misjudgment on identity, but to have *that* weapon ready.

It's much easier to get bashed when you hide than when you use your name and have a website with pics up on you. It can either hurt or help your business. Either way, I'm old, fiesty and confident so I don't really care what people think about me. My clients/friends know I'm a nice lady. Some people will do whatever they want to do no matter who it hurts. It's a pity!
"Can't we all get along?" Wink!

Hugs,
Ciara

Somehow I feel I'd be less credible if I hid behind it.

-- Modified on 12/11/2005 5:06:47 PM

Good for you in setting the record straight. I don't exactly agree with the aliases for a few reasons and this is probably the biggest. If someone has something to say then they need to have enough courage to say it using the alias that they have already created. TER makes a point of pulling any aliases that a girl might use into one with the reviews. I think that the dicussion boards and chat should be handled the same way. They can be cute at times to make a point but when someone starts abusing them this way then I think something should change.

For the record, Miki, everyone that knows you knows that you are not a girl that would publically pull out the claws on another girl. And, yes your personal information is no one elses business. It's so damn hard in this community for anyone to keep their mouths shut about the business of others. Personally, I get a little concerned when people start telling me too much about the business of other's because it tells me that they will do the same with my information. And, that goes all directions. Some things are pretty harmless but no one should ever talk about someone elses kids......that's just way over the top.

Sorry that you had to deal with this!

X's Summer

This might be a ploy to get more people in the chat room...which is usally boring .

and that's why I don't get too close to very many people in this business. People just can't keep their mouths closed.

Hugs,
Ciara

At least I hope you're never important enough in my life to require anymore.  

Your spin doesn't hold the road very well, IMO.  What I see is what I thought: hatred and connivance. I won't take back anything I wrote.  

I'll leave you with a question: if I'm self-righteously playing the white knight, what does that make your game?

I would have ignored five dozen denials from that kind of attack!!  I would have ignored the peanut gallery saying things too, as far as I would know, they are just stirring the pot.    

Understand, as vicious as it was, she really thought she was being attacked.  

And Bill was wrong on at least one major point he attacked her on.  I'll say I think it was an honest mistake, which would have been perceived by her as slander.  The point is, he made a similar wrong guess about her.    


-- Modified on 12/11/2005 8:31:47 PM

-- Modified on 12/11/2005 8:43:17 PM

... or to protect other people's privacy.  

And that's all I'll allow them for now.  

-- Modified on 12/11/2005 8:52:56 PM

Aliases allow you to speak your mind when your thoughts are not popular with the more vocal elements on this board.

You can let them know that not eveyone believes as they do without fear of harming your repulation or your business.

That's why they hate it. It prevents them from quashing free speech through intimidation. Why else would one's identity be relevant to any sort of debate of ideas?

OK betty you are the best blow job queen in the east...this has nothing to do with you..

-- Modified on 12/11/2005 10:49:29 PM

I was lead to believe it was Miki due to personal info that could have only come from someone who knew me. After being berated in chat for hours by someone who has never met me I am suprised. So much hated. I bet all those threads bashing me on the boards earlier were his as well. This is not the first time Bill18356 has made small issues between providers into wars, if people recall the threads about Karrie and Rose. He could have stopped it by revealing who he was but he prefered to hide under his alias. When he made the comment about forcing me to crawl through broken glass to suck his cock should have tipped me off that this was just a cyber psycho.

-- Modified on 12/12/2005 1:06:42 AM

Michelle it doesn't change all the nasty things you said about Miki. What about all the nasty stuff you say about her to your clients? You have been caught this time.

and character assasinate me for hours,revealing some of my most personal info,bringing my kids,my finacial situation,my personal demons out in the open...posting my pics and saying that they are false and this is all you come up with....do me a favor, look up 2 things;
narscisist and borderline personality and then run,don't walk to the closest mental health clinic you can find....
MERRY CHRISTMAS BABY!!!!

-- Modified on 12/12/2005 4:54:20 AM

lets face facts, Michelle has been looking for any platforn she could get to attack Miki. Does anyone seriously believe she hasnt been back channeling her venon for quite some time? Michelle is a viper, anyone giving her any private information that she will later use against them needs to get real, a snake is a snake. This goes double for any hobbyist as she started off in the chat room by threatening to call some guys wife and employer. This is the perfect example of why hobbyists need to think it over a few times before they decide to divulge private information to the likes of a Net Michelle. This is a very sick and twisted mindset she has.

Why would she take a alias such as Ant Eater and assume it was Miki??? There never was any refernce to Miki other than her own, I also had to repeatedly tell her I wasnt Trek or Betty and that Miki wasnt my ATF.

Below Michelle mentions my defending Rose against her buddy Karrie's vicious onslaught against her. What a surpise since they have been in bed together for quite sometime. The two of them form the perfect couple. Fortunately they cant breed.

You would think Michelle would have some form of remorse but instead tries to justify her poison by inferring I'm a provider attacker. The fact is I probably have more provider friends then she does.

Miki has done nothing to Michelle other than help welcome her to NY. She thought Michelle could be a friend and could be trusted, lets hope everyone that reads this thread (Especially that moron Mr. Info) get a clear picture of why she can never ever be trusted.

ok Im done now

bwahahaha you're one insane bitch. If youre going to quote me at least get it right some people have a logs you silly goose

what I said was " I wouldnt have sex with you if you crawled thru a mile of broken glass to suck my dick" Nobody ever said "force you" but of course you already know that, dont ya

keep squirming and lieing Michelle I'm enjoying it.

Michelle you know that's not what Ant Eater said, I was there and it was a very funny response after you were asking him to have a session with you. He said " I wouldnt have sex with you if you crawled through a mile of broken glass on your hands and knees and begged" I know this because I have the transcript of most of it.  your reply was " My dog begs I don't"

Just wanted to set the record straight

I don't like fights, gossips, back stabbing either. Reason I stay away and only mind my own affairs.
I don't like to see my name dragged into personal vendettas.
I might be the "blowjob queen" like you named me but definitely I'm not the "queen of the self promotion". I think someone else holds the title.

Peace! Have a nice Holidays!


-- Modified on 12/12/2005 8:00:41 AM

It wasnt' in Mr. Info's post.  If you're talking about other providers Bill18356 has it in for, you wouldn't be the name I would come up with.  Welcome to the list.  

Looks like you have sound practices otherwise.

http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=165230&boardID=12&page=1

I guess it explains why I posted to clarify.

I'll just note it wasn't prominent, and it wasn't in the post you answered.  My apology, though.

I wasn’t there to see what Michelle said so I won’t comment on that issue.

Miki, when you yourself have spewed your personal problems in the chat room several times, you can’t expect people not to comment and/or take pot shots. You’re no little angel; I’ve seen you in action attacking a few other women in the very chat room you bitch about.

I may be a Ding Dong but it’s really very simple, keep your big mouth shut about your personal life if you don’t want it out there.

Donna

-- Modified on 12/12/2005 11:32:38 AM

...not blathering about fucking hockey and I missed it.

I can share whatever I want but
Michelle can't....its MY FUCKIN LIFE AND MY FUCKIN PEROGATIVE!!!!
PS spewing is not my style sharing is...

This is the perfect example of you spewing your puke on a public board. When confronted, you resort to name calling and down right street ho mentality.

And yes my dear, if one SPEWS their personal life on a public board and/or chat room, its open for others to comment. If you don’t like it, SHUT THE FUCK UP!

Donna

PS
Bite me!

Bill I never knew you had this kind of mean streak in you. Its too bad that friends like Michelle and Miki have a falling out, and you hate to see it carry over to the boards or in chat, but there is no reason to precipitate a fight between the two of them as a 3rd party.
 You must have some personal reason to be so vindictive here, but try to be a bigger person and let these girls work it out in quiet. This kind of baiting is exactly the type of thing that could lead a provider to retiring. Nobody wins in that situation. Michelle has her faithful customers as Miki does hers, and I can tell you that those customers would be pretty ticked off if either one of them left this community because of what occured in chat the other night. I know I'd be ticked AND vindictive and it wouldn't be with either one of them.

-- Modified on 12/12/2005 7:09:35 PM

lets just all hope that BILL has been too

-- Modified on 12/12/2005 11:01:38 PM

...that would pretty much be the end of me as well.

Farewell all.

Which is why when he unmasked I immediately flamed his ass.  This takes my lifetime prize for the most conniving and devious thing I've ever seen a human being do.

If that's accurate, Staff should fix that right now by reinstating her. That would be the first big mistake I have seen this site make. Michelle is a huge drawing card to this site and to banish her would definitely hurt the paid memberships department. That is the one thing this site had over BigDoggie in my opinion...NetMichelle. Hopefully Staff changes that in a hurry, because that is absolutely wrong. It might cause an exodus to somewhere else

Bill is an evil nasty sorry excuse of a human being and knows that he will meet his very "hot" maker at the end of his life.

He calls that a major lie, not just getting it wrong not just keeping it brief?  Look at the imagery he chose there when a "no" would have sufficed.  You say that to 95 percent of women, and they'd get that detail wrong.

-- Modified on 12/13/2005 5:37:03 AM

Amen about Bill, see my thread above.  

PS-- never call yourself a whore, except during dirty talk.

pretty much the worst crime one can commit in this forum. Bill was almost equally wrong.

Helps you see the people's true colors.

Kind of like the story of me and the clown.
When I want to see the real child in my kids, I put on a clown's outfit and hide Daddy's face behind a mask.
Then I can see the real child hidden in their souls under layers of “how to behave in public” lessons, the real part that I can’t see when I ‘m “Dad" and not the Clown.

....this thread remains the most damaging one I have ever seen on TER. I came back to look at Michelle's last posts out of nostalgia, as she was my ATF for years, and even now all this upsets me. Since this thread and the chat room fight that precipitated it, many things have changed for the worse. Miki has passed away far too soon, and never got to live the wonderful life she deserved. Michelle was banned and TER was never as good because of that.

I'm not sure, but I believe Miki was banned from this site at the time of her death...that is tragic and loathsome. Michelle never should have been banned since a 3rd party was actually the only guilty one in all this. Staff was mistaken in banning those women. Too many have been banned from this site in fact. Years later....one can only wonder what this site could have achieved if it had treated its loyal members, like Michelle and Miki, with more respect and dignity, instead of contempt and vindictiveness. What a shame