Seems to be a trend of providers demanding a deposit up-front these days.  To me, that is a total deal-breaker.  Now I get it that ladies sometimes might get a no-show, but then again, so do we.  Long ago I answered an ad for an attractive lady and was told to go to Apt A someplace and give THEM the money and they would tell me where she would meet me.  Yeah, right.  
A lady has a right to run her business any way she wants.  And I have a right to  move along.
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The bottom line is this: everyone on both sides of the equation has to do what makes sense to them and what makes them comfortable.  

As a single Mom I have to make arrangements & I started requiring deposits to book my time back in 2010. Considering the facts many providers book a room to cater to clients & can invest hundreds of dollars hoping to get bookings. As an honest person I would never steal, and I did not gain a good reputation by scamming anyone. I believe if you do your due diligence you can make an executive decision on who is 100% legit. Merry Christmas!

Always remember that this is an illegal activity!
The less RWI that can be traced back to you the better.
That's why everyone that plays in this arena has Handles, Aliases, Burner phones, Voip phone numbers, acronyms, etc...
Theses only exist as a way to hide who you are and what you're doing.

It all depends on whether the provider is reliable or not.

If it is a well reviewed gal.  I don’t mind.   I draw the line at my real ID.   Money is just money.  

Reliable ? This is not an April fools thread. If she is reliable she would not request a deposit, why would there be a need for one ? C’mon man.

What part of my body am I itching ? Deposits are for suckers, I’m gonna put a deposit on my groceries, clothes and fuel. Does that mean if cost go up I get the price at deposit rate. I’ve lost deposits after reading reviews of “reliable” reviewed providers. But as someone said on this thread, it's just money. OK.

The problem is customers who aren't reliable....

Don't knock women bc of their business rules and regs. This is VERY simple. Go see a girl who doesn't ask for one. But suggesting a girl that requires a deposit isn't "reliable" is silly and grossly misinformed. Many, many reliable women ask for them.

Well  I hope you called them out publicly. I'd be interested in seeing your naughty girls list.

I'd like to say that I paid QB a sizable deposit when she was planning to visit my area. Her plans changed a few weeks later unfortunately and within 5 minutes of her notifying me of her cancellation, I had my deposit refunded.

A local favorite lady went on a rant to me a few weeks ago about last-minute cancellations taking a financial toll on her. She has a civie job and takes the day off when she gets an appointment (she's truly "low volume").  

If they require one, I just move on.  The risk is too high.  

It's so easy for guys here to say providers shouldn't charge a deposit but they aren't the ones out potentially thousands of dollars. No guy wants to pay a deposit but is it that hard to see this from the girls side?

Never charged a deposit in 15 years.
Never had a problem.
Never will charge a deposit.
NEVER!

This continues to prove what I believe.
'RespectfulRobert' is a provider.

Winter Kay was outed yet look at profile, even after being out some still attempted to see her. Shocked so why bother.

I have seen him 3 times now, actually. He is most definitely a man.

Hmm, so is RespectfulRobert your alias then? 🤔

The plot thickens......

Ok, makes sense (we will omit all the scam possibilities for now)  

I do agree with Ms.Scarlett that he is a dude, but he thinks, acts and views this biz more like a woman's perspective, so I can certainly understand your confusion.  Maybe he's transitioning and just hasn't announced it yet.  Lol

So it is YOU!!! I KNEW IT!!!!

weakest comeback of the year on this board.  It makes no sense unless you add some context.  You should be embarrassed.  Try again and think first about what your point is and what you have to say to get there.    

Keep those receipts Cdl. Keep those receipts.

OK....we will go real slow here. My point is.....it is a joke. It is funny. Everyone knows Robert is a guy. Everyone is in on the joke, but you, obviously. There is no context. No one needs to be embarrassed. No one thinks Robert is me and no one thinks Robert is you. And for 2024 we will be getting Mr. Lion.....a sense of humor!!! YAY!!!

So let me ask this question then: if I were to go on quora or even chatgpt and ask them this, omitting the industry in question:

how about answering my query?   Are you transitioning your gender anytime soon.  The simp you are today makes it easy to take the next step.  Lol

And as you have no doubt noticed multiple times now in this thread, he is fantasizing about me transitioning. Obsessed about it really. Is he projecting? Maybe he wants to tell us something? lol.

Deposits…

Pretty sure you can sue the hotel, right? Right. As a lodging customer you are protected by certain consumer laws.  

like you said, it goes both ways. But as a well known provider being in the adult industry for 10 years I don't like to be plan "B" - I know it sounds weird 😁

I'm a seasoned hobbyist, but have been burned in the past with ladies who stole a deposit. This occurred when I was a n00b, and i chalked it up to experience. I also have had a provider return a $1,200 deposit, again when I was n00b.  

Seasoned hobbyist ? Really you know how they say show me the CarFax ? Show me the reviews and please don’t spew the nonsense that you don’t write reviews. If you are seasoned and seek advise maybe stop the alias nonsense. Seasoned ok, LMFAO.

Enjoyed the analogy, NEVER EVER give a deposit. I have a provider I saw once she started and have seen her a number of times. She now insists on a deposit while touring close to me. Again, I saw you from the start and you don’t trust me---good luck, I’m out.

Why would a deposit be needed if the provider has already been seen multiple times? Seems redundant at that point. Text to schedule and see you then.  

not Robert, so if it's a joke to Robert, that's why it didn't make sense addressed to me.  Not everyone knows Robert is a guy, or someone wouldn't have questioned it in a post.  I'm sure he appreciates your white-knighting his masculinity.  You have to admit he is REALLY in touch with his feminine side.  (Maybe too much? - Lol).  

I really don't even know how to respond to this without being mean. Yes, it was addressed to you because I was trying to include you in on the joke. It was to allow you to add your own funny antidote and be included. Now I just kind of feel bad. Sorry buddy!!

I have no fantasy about you.  I'm just connecting the dots on your general proclivity to think and respond like a woman, and trying to be "one of the girls" by always agreeing with the providers posting here.  I was merely curious if this was part of a "process" for you.  Since you don't want to talk about it YET, we can move on.  Lol

He seems to be the quintessential "nice guy". The kind that end up in womens' friendzone. Unfortunately society lied to him (and to men in general.) Treating women like princesses will get him used, not loved.

I see your point. Thanks!

Sir, you seem to be confused. This is a hooker board, not a dating site. I have yet to see anything from Robert to show that he is emotionally damaged or disillusioned by the sex work industry. I have no advice for him when it comes to civilian dating, but he seems to have it figured out pretty well how to treat and talk to sex workers to receive the best service possible.

There is never really a "Trusted" person in the sex industry.
Did you see the story of the porn actor that had "undectable" HIV and never told any of his sex partners he was raw dogging.

I definitely understand and support the right of anyone to do business as the see fit. Completely get it that some guys are no-shows. It's a choice. Good luck to these ladies and I'm sorry for the troubles they've experienced. But I've had years and years of great times with providers on practically every price level and have never paid a deposit. Some have asked but then said never mind after I provided a good reference or two. I think I would be happy to pay in advance toward some kind of FMTY or multi-day experience if I ever sought to do that type of thing, but not for a standard 1-2 hr encounter.

And warped. Not sure how they were raised but they equate my treating women kindly and with respect means I am "brown nosing" or being "used." They are sad and pathetic people if they think that.  
Most guys here are well balanced and have no need to disrespect women. It's why those two, and very few others here, stand out because a woman may have hurt them in the past, or they were raised to disrespect women so they then turn to misogyny to deal with their insecurity. Sad, really.  
Imagine for one second any "man" needing to "prove" they like women by pulling up an old post here? Men who really love women never have to do that. No word salad, crazed, insecure defense is ever needed either. And yet that is all people like Cdl have. You should see his racist posts here. Sheez. Like I said, he is a sad, pathetic and hateful person. But he will tell you that I am the real misogynist. lol. smh.

I said you were a nice guy.  I'm not sure  you disagree with that.
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I'm merely advising that women have their own priorities and, for the most part, elevate their priorities over yours.  
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Of course there are, in fact, men who pay women to abuse them.  To each his own.

Lol...this analogy has so many, wait for it...holes in it!

You equate treating women with respect with treating them like princesses. The fact that you would conflate the two makes my point perfectly.

Treating them like princesses is not the same as treating them with respect.  We agree on that.

So, to put this into perspective….. I require a deposit because  
1) I’m blocking off time for you  

And by the way, I treat escorts the way they deserve to be treated ... as individual business people.  

In general I do not do deposits, and if a provider requires one, it makes my decision to see her that much easier to say no and move along.  The problem for me is, there is no accountability.  If a provider stiffs a client on a deposit, said client has to go through so many loopholes to get their money back.  But lord forbid a client crosses the line in some way, shape or form then they're "blacklisted".  If there was more of an alliance between us clients (at least those who refused to pay deposits) then they would have faded away, but there isn't.  And of course you have reckless clients out there who just willingly pay, which makes it hard for us that don't.  These days it's damn near impossible to come across a provider that doesn't require a deposit.  So as the OP says, I too just move along and hope to find someone who doesn't have that requirement.  

How many times have you stopped seeing a provider after one or two meetings with a deposit? Many providers report being burned after foregoing deposits from “trusted” clients.

But you want trust in clients to be paid in money while you want trust in YOU to be in words of  
"I would never lie, steal or cheat a potential client."

You unwittingly just made a case in support of deposits.

Girls wouldnt demand deposits if guys stopped flaking. I as well as many providers have actually ahd guys show up to our locations then let us know and that seemed to be all they wanted. To let us know they knew where we are and never actually see us for the scheduled appointment.  

No I haven't. I made the case for two-way business to have the SAME accountability on both sides. Not lopsided and imbalanced accountability skewed towards the seller. Get the fuck outta here.  

Here's the news : not all providers are women. Especially nowadays, that should be clear. There are gay providers and trans providers. Many of them actually.

Thats the point you consistently miss in your argument.  
Providers just have MUCH more risk with regards to cancellations and NCNS than clients do with regards to lost money in almost every case.  
The request for a deposit simply levels the playing field. In that scenario, the client now has skin in the game, as does the provider. If the client feels the need to ask for "collateral", he/she is certainly entitled to do so.  
But much in the same way you the buyer can turn down that request to pay a deposit, the provider has the right not to accept the buyers collateral request. Freedom of choice is a wonderful thing.

I'll say this.  Flaking has been apart of this game since the beginning of time, the same as bait and switching.  I for one have never flaked on an appointment and have no want or need to "get used to deposits".  There are plenty of providers that don't require them, so if they match my criteria then I'll just see them.  

Excellent analysis. There’s nothing stopping Rocket from asking for collateral if that is so important to him. That fact alone blows apart his “it’s unfair” complaint away. Just as clients have the freedom to ignore providers’ deposit requests, providers have the freedom to ignore Rocket’s collateral requests.

You’re assuming all providers are the same & we are not. I put forth lots of effort into every date booked because I cherish my adult playtime. I choose lingerie by inquiring the persons favorite color. I always have snacks & refreshments if I am hosting. You state you sympathize, but you really do not because you are generalizing by stating ya‘LL.  

Guess you didn't read this part "Now if you actually put forth effort for your appointments e.g. lingerie, heels, make up, refreshments, etc., I can respect the fact that you ask for a deposit to secure your time"  

"Y'all" is actually singular. As in asking one friend, "Y'all wanna get a drink?"
But the plural of "y'all" is "ALL y'all." As in asking a group of friends, "All y'all wanna get some drinks?"

I will attempt the impossible....to educate you....

At this time of year, I would like to suggest:  
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Hark! the TER Forums sing,
Glory to safe hobbying!
Peace on earth and mercy mild,
All y'all and y'all reconciled.  
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I suggest that in SOME parts of the South y'all is singular and all y'all is plural. (inicky)
I suggest that in SOME parts of the South, y'all is always plural and never singular. (durran)
I suggest that in SOME parts of the South, y'all is singular or plural, usually discernible in context.
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I suggest that in some cases, y'all can be both singular AND plural, depending on the reader / listener.
Y'all: Singular listener hears, "You talkin' to me? OK. Let's go!"
Y'all: Listener heard Plural form, "You talkin' to all of us? You pickin' up the tab? Count me in on the group!"
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As Rodney King asked in 1992, "Can't we all just get along?"
Rephrased: "Can't y'all just get along?"  
Rephrased: "Can't all y'all just get along?"

I am not sure why providers don't simplify this process by giving clients the choice of paying the deposit or not. Offer guys who pay the deposit a discount vs the guys who don't want to pay in cash.

I do agree with adding incentives. I am updating my new site I had to create after ditching the old with little notice. Installments are also an option. I think there should be rewards.

Nonsense.

More world salad from the KGirl Forum’s resident geek. Deposits are bad because there’s an “imbalance” in the buyer/seller relationship?  Using your logic, rates are “bad” too.  How do you separate deposits and rates using your line of thought?

Hoist by his own petard.

Do you have a policy if there is a prior encumbrance on the property?

Because even regular clients can be incredibly unreliable. I’m sure you’ve seen the answer to your question multiple times but still disregard the reasoning because it doesn’t fit your idealized narrative of a provider-client relationship.  

That is why you do not pay a deposit. I believe it's a scam

as they are LEAVING, which means there is no chance they are being scammed.  I knew you would figure it out eventually.  

give your customers a punch card and after they have paid for nine sessions, the tenth one is free.  (Some may still tip on the free one, so you still get something.)

Amen,
It all leaves a trail.  I have done it but don’t care for it.  Cheap advice to proVs name your business something as in marketing or accounting. Nude photos in your Venmo don’t explain easy.

Shall we call them, the desperadoes ?

Several AMPs and related businesses in NYC used to give out such cards! (I've still got several almost-complete but place-now-closed cards. Maybe they'll re-open some day ... .)  Some were "10th visit free" but some were "50% discount on 5th visit."

It seems like I’ve seen it before

...and politely declined each one. Like it's been noted here-a provider has every right to ask for one, and I have every right to decline. I have never been a NCNS or even late for a session for that matter. It does suck that flaky customers have definitely influenced the deposit issue, but I'm not guilty by association so I'll move on to the next (no deposit) lady.

nobody should pay before any nailing is done.  

It's common for contractors to ask for a small percentage up front to pay for materials at the very least.

by then the customer has already met them at least ONCE, maybe more.  Would you hire a contractor you never met who asks you to send a deposit before he will even meet you to discuss the job?  Yours is a completely false analogy.  

I can guarantee that the number of bad experiences we have as providers far exceed your bad experiences as customers.

Its not a thing in the UK.  Too many scammers  

As the requirement for deposits becomes more common, scams will as well.  It's just the nature of human behavior.  

Yad, Yada, Yada!   Lol

become an attractive option.  They are not going to screw up their reputation by scamming an individual customer.  

You've got that right!

Miss Day,

If you see a reputable provider there isn't as much risk to you. This is our job. We want the appointment to happen. Men are playing. They might be talking to 3 gals and we set aside time, get a room, whatever and he blows you off. The risk is here because if we blow you off you wasted time. But when you blow us off it costs us money. The deposit secures time. U come then no problem. If she has to cancel she gives back deposit. If you cancel in a reasonable time she gives back deposit. She only keeps it when you blow her off last minute. And she deserves that bcuz u wasted her time.

I been with escorts for so many years and not once i made a deposit.  I emailed an escort, she's new and got 2 reviews, both good.  She emailed me back and she need a $200 deposit for the appointment. Any advice? I don't want to be scammed.

To the person above - deposits are definitely a thing in the UK! We wouldn't have a business without them, i've never arranged a booking without a deposit and Lulu Black has grown to be one the leading escort agencies in London, Birmingham and Manchester. The best ladies work with us because they don't want their time wasted, and they feel safe. On the odd occasion a lady has to cancel, we would always refund the deposit immediately. If you cancel, we tend to be pretty lenient with rearranging provided you are giving notice.