I'm a good looking guy (at least i've been told).I'm single, dont even have a GF. I got bored to death with sex with civ's. Decided I needed to learn a thing or two with some pro's.

I started last wendsday on eros. She said she was 25 turned out to be 40+, got flaky as hell thought i was  LE, DKFed, BBBJ, then laid there like a log. Two more on eros, nothing special, same shit as civ's, I even made one cum a few times.

Moved on to CL and backpages, thought maybe i needed some raw providers. Bait and switch, walked out on most. Met one girl, second best bbbj i've ever had (nadia my love). Others didnt want to kiss, gave me the one pop rule, and upsell. I almost slaped one 22 year old who said it would cost 40 every time i touched her after the first pop. I gave her the full hour's money anyway felt bad for her. A couple showed me pic's of their kids. One walked out of the hotel room teary eyed. I wish life was different Kesha.

Found TER. Went to the girls with 25 pages of 9/10s. Maybe its me, maybe i scare them into thinking i'm LE. Nothing special, felt i was having sex with a mail box heh. BBBJ's, DFKs, prostate. But any girlfriend will provide this. I still addore you Jill, you are a wonderful person.

My question is what am I missing? What am I doing wrong? I have yet to experience a really super hot unforgettable, once in a life time session. Is it pure chemistry? Or do I still have to search?  

Cancer Killer.

maybe you need to look for a girl who is into anal

Let me see if I have this right.....you spent 5000k in one week. So either you saw 20 providers at 250 each...or..if I counted the girls you listed which is eight....they charged 650 each?  I find that a bit far fetched for CL providers.

Sounds more like there is just NO pleasing you. Maybe buy a flesh-light.

seriously, if he called you right now and identified himself as verigon and he'd give you 5k for a totally extraordinary experience, what would you do ?

i dont know if i'd hang up or agree and then show up and be a bitch and leave after 1 pop.

ROFL

either way, i know a guy with that attitude isnt getting much pleasure out of me. save your money guys, i'm no anal ana.  no assholes pleased.

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Being an obvious newbie,it must be your approach.
I am not talking about the backpage and eros providers. I am talking about the well reviewed providers you had seen. If they did not satisfy you, then it must be you.
If you post the reviews, other hobbyists may have some advice for you.

Also, be cautious of the big mouth, man hating providers. Most of them have no advice to give.

you'll be pleasantly surprised.

being a jerk is a waste of your money regardless of how much you spend.

I come to Phoenix regularly and have been thinking of calling you on my next trip, but this thread and the thread you began below give me no confidence that you'd uphold your side of the deal if we did get together.  Is that the impression you want to leave with guys?

Sounds to me like you have a really bad attitude.

And,  If you don't agree .. Well,  then the DNS shoe fits you too...
Mister Dickus.

"I almost slaped one 22 year old..."
There is NO excuse.  None.

"BBBJ's, DFKs, prostate. But any girlfriend will provide this."
So what were you expecting, gymnastics?  What does it take for you to have a "super hot unforgettable, once in a life time session."?  Do you even know yourself?  If YOU don't know, and if you can't communicate this to another person, is a lady supposed to guess?  Maybe it is pure chemistry, and with your attitude you're not likely to find it.

your question:  You are missing basic respect for women and humanity.  Grow the fuck up.

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-- Modified on 3/22/2008 6:02:22 PM

Well gosh buddy, there is such a thing as chemistry, and of course there is the ever-present Super Duper Asshole Detector that every escort-bot comes equipped with standard. See, when the Super Duper Asshole Detector goes off, we go into robot-mode, and treat you like the asshole that you are. From your post, I suspect that the SDAD started blaring before you even got within a block of the provider.

So basically it is you. I suggest you find another hobby. One that doesn't require interacting with humans, particularly the female half of the species. Stamp collecting comes to mind.

or maybe he needs to be on the receiving end

She won't care how big of an asshole you are, and she won't make fun of your pencil dick, and she won't even whine if you slap her around.

Dude, what you are missing, is class.

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time learning how to be a good hobbyist by using the resources here on TER.  For a measly $20 you can become a VIP which enables you to read the complete reviews including the juicy details so you can see if the lady is the type you are looking for.  

The Newbie Manual at the top of the Newbie Board would have given you the hobbyist protocol.

Did you post this just to see if you could stir things up? If you have ever read any of the posts here, could you possibly have thought you would get any responses other than what you got? Most of the guys here actually like women.

If you aren't serious, seems to me you have a strange sense of humor and you must not be a very likable guy.

If you are serious, I think you convey to the ladies too high an opinion of yourself, and you can't be a likable guy.

Either way, I recommend professional help. No wonder you don't have a GF.

Ladies, lighten-up a bit....It might not have been the best choice of words(an understatement), but I'm pretty sure his comment about slapping the girl was meant figuratively not literally. Just as a way of expressing frustration, not his intent to harm her. ...do you really want to set this kind of tone for a newbie???  

demeaning tenor of the post.  IMHO, it's guys like this that create the barrier that guys like me have to overcome with each new provider we see.  I detected a complete lack of respect for the provider, and that bothers me a lot.  He may be new to the hobby and TER, but he does not seem to be new to being a jerk.

just my 2 cents.

I just spent $15,000 for travel with a wonderful companion.  I'm not great looking, not a wonderful catch, just an average older married guy.  

But I had a wonderful time- great connection, great chemistry, once in a lifetime super unforgetable trip.

The difference-  being real, loving and respecting women, and wanting to be with someone real.  Good luck in your search

I did not get the impression he was mean spirited.
Maybe the hobby is not for him, but if he wants to become a serious hobbyist, he needs to learn certain things, and convey his thoughts better.

The newbie board may yield some kinder responses.

See I disagree. I think the tone of his post reflects a great deal of frustration but no condescension. ...but everyone perceives things differently

is that if he had found you, he probably wouldn't have posted in the first place because your site, pictures, and reviews clearly show that you could just about please anyone.  I wish I was in NY right now.  If you ever get to Boston, please let me know. You're beautiful and obviously great at what you do.  

maybe the original poster was trying to project a locker room macho attitude to get favorable responses from more experienced hobbyists

OR

maybe he was just lying about being a newbie hoping the responses wouldnt be so harsh.


either way, its The Smell Of Fear ...

I get the feeling from what he has said is how he sees woman. His general lack of respect for woman in general in or out of this profession. Hey I could be wrong, I am usually pretty good at judging a persons charecter and he appears to me, to be lacking charecter. It may have been a poor choice in words but I don't think so.

I do not think you spent 5000, I do not think you saw even one lady.  I am going to lay it all on the line and say that you are scared to death to pick up the phone or type out a contact page.  Am I close so far?  I do not think I am far off, you have zero reviews.

Now getting past CL ladies with no reviews is one thing, getting past a number of TER reviewed ladies with no reviews or references is a little more difficult.  Especially all in a single week and completing all the dates you say you had.

I suggest you read the newbie manual, read many reviews by becoming a VIP member and then speak with a few of the more experienced ladies and see if you can become more comfortable with the whole idea.  

But first, YOU have to decide if YOU can do all this without crossing YOUR own moral boundries and worring yourself to death about getting found out by family, friends or coworkers.

Good luck!

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if a guy has to wonder about showing a woman respect, i'd rather him call someone else.

i dont really want to waste the time or effort teaching him when there are so many guys who already know.

when i start hurting for clients, maybe that will change.

if i guy cant figure me out, then step aside and make room for the guys who can and have a nice day.

i dont know what deal you're talking about anyway cuz i'm pretty sure my ad states, "my pleasure is guarenteed... yours might be a lil more optional"

so what exactly makes you think i might not come through on the deal ?  you are sort of scaring me.

ROFL
i'd link my ad but i think its against the rules.

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Nevermind, it's not worth it, lol.

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I'd suggest he drop the very thin veil of contempt he seems to have for providers. It really does come through in appointments.

I'd also recommend not posting that you nearly slapped a provider. Violence is never cool.

No wonder he didn't get the 10/10 experience he was looking for.

Katie

Gina Rollins LOL.

I think that the scale of his search is amplified because of the number of encounters he claimed in a weeks time; however, its utterly no different than the thousands of guys who mill through dozens of "nice times" and "hot times" in hopes of that elusive session in which he is actually knocked dead with sexual satisfaction and chemistry.

Unfortunately, contrary to what ratings and reviews would have us all to believe, every guy isn't going to call a girl who is sweet, kisses him and lounges about like there isn't a care in the world for an hour or two a "one in a lifetime experience"-nor is he actually "forgetting" that he's with a pro.  The scores and reviews tend to exaggerate the experience, leaving some people with high expectations of things  that only chemistry, passion and timing can create.

My true suggestion Verigon:  approach it in the way that you would anything in your real life-slow  down, evaluate, assess, seek opinions through TER before you choose the next.  Sometimes its hard for people to articulate what they really need through intimacy-you may have a general idea ("I want something hotter than I can have from a civvie") but for you, what acts or feelings would produce that for you?

Good luck & funny post.  I have "wanted to slap" plenty of clients and/or say "honey, don't cry-I wish life were better" LOL!

It is more than just his words. Others may not have read disrespect into it, but I certainly did. Even more than that though, is the fact that the brainiac apparently can't seem to recognize that HE is the one and only common denominator in all of his experiences. So if he is having one bad experience after another, the first place he should be looking is at the one factor all of his experiences have in common - himself.

I agree with SweetNicole1, this guy has a total lack of respect for women.  He needs some anger management counseling!

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I think you are definitely ready for me to bend you over and give you one hellofa pegging with my strap on.  I guarantee it will be unforgettable.

Kisses

Ally, you are so cute, and witty.
Good advice.

YOU WERENT DOING IT
You get an  F
move to the back of the class

You must look within yourself to find this answer my dear.

What are you doing wrong? Chemistry is a combination of more then one element.
No expectations, no disappointments.
You have to go into a session with a true GFE with your heart open.

I don't know what you are doing to scare the girls into thinking you are LE, but if you are freaking them out from the gate, the whole race is lost.

You get out of life what you put into it.
IF sex with civies got boring then maybe sex with you got boring?

When I was a child my and I would say, "Momma, I am bored." My mother would reply, " only the boring get bored."

Something to think about.
It is all you, it is always you....

Unless this is a joke of some type my guess: a self-absorbed self-centered narcissistic nerd with amazingly low EQ skills. Even the style of writing is disturbing: "I wish life was different Kesha." "I still 'addore' you Jill, you are a wonderful person."

Gee started started last "wendsday" on eros after spending a whole $5000 in NYC and has yet to "experience a really super hot unforgettable, once in a life time session"

Life is tough.

After reading your posts, I have no interest in seeing you anyway.  I prefer to see ladies who aren't into gaming other people and who are worthy of respect--and respect they get in abundance.

No man who can't provide simple human respect to another human being belongs in this hobby.

most guys fantasy is to be with a beautiful girl by their definition (or a different one then their wife or gf) and have it to be like a civvy encounter.. hence the so-called girlfriend experience.

if you're looking for an extra kinky mindblowing experience or something out of the ordinary, then you should specify. i always ask clients if they have any special requests and it's rare that they do, though i'm happy to go out of my way to  accommodate them. it can even make preparing for an appointment easier if i know exactly what the guy wants.

but, if you have 5k to spend in nyc the sky is the limit. you're really only limited by your imagination.

wow i didn't know people were so sensitive.

Firstly, I'm a very respectful upscale educated man. I have never ever laid a hand on a woman or even cursed a woman out. The bit about "almost slapping" was just letting out some frustration. When i left she said "call me sweetie".

I have read the reviews from another's paid membership. Yes i was expecting some of the providers who get paid 600+ an hour to actually show me a few things and teach me a thing or two. "Wheel barrel? i never heard of that".

I guess i came off too frustrated and arrogant. Anyway I saw one girl yesterday and she said I was too nice and not aggressive enough. She said I have to take more control. Gonna put that into some practice.

Thanks guys.

Go do yoga, get a massage, try running or working out.

Do something different, this clearly isn't working for you.

Find another path

Rework your formula for picking girls since the one you have doesn't appear to be working.  

Find a girlfriend on match.com or if you have money go on one of the higher end web sites - sounds like you need a girlfriend.

Lisa Butler

This all sounds fishy or porky pig is fishing?
way toooo weird

Okay, I wasn't there so I dunno BUTIf you really DID spend that much I am sorry you wasted it and I am sorry for the frustration.

You know, I do feel for you guys because of situations like this. We ladies take risks, yes. But the guys do also. You never know what you might be stepping into. On top of that you GUYS have to get WOOD.... We ladies are always ready. lol.

Personally, I think that the "slap" comment was not really meant as it was construed, but to each his/her own.

All I can say is do your homework. Research the ladies you wish to try to see. Narrow it down. BE A GENTLEMAN and perhaps it will work out for you.

If you are a decent man I truly do hope you have better luck, but of course if you are NOT decent then I retract that wish! lol Just be cool, and NO SLAPPING unless it is a wanted spanking.

Cheyenna