Gentlemen there is one thing that you seem to not understand, when I or any of the providers out there ask you for your TER handle we are not asking to reveal who you are or who you might want to be.


The only reason I ask for a handle is because I like to read your reviews on the providers you have seen. We can learn alot.

Like.


(1) What you like best……...(Cowgirl, miss, Greek, bbbj, cbbjs, ect…)

(2) How you like it……..... ( Upside down, sideways, hanging from the ceiling, ect….)

(3) If you like…….... (1hr. Appointments, 2 or 3 ect…….)

(4) How many times……..(You can pop……..)

(5) If you like………....(Hugs and kisses when you open the door…….)




I’m sure I could go on and on but the fact is there is a lot of good useful information in your reviews.

I know it’s a tough world out there but please remember some of us where brought up, to respect others.


Hugs,

Tammy

I don't do reviews (it was just a choice I made for personal reasons a while back), so I have no problem giving out my handle to someone I am comfortable with. I enjoy seeing them in chat, or responding to their posts and having them know it's me. However, for the guys that do reviews, (and bless all of you) keeping their handle to themselves could prevent any hard feelings from providers they've seen. A guy may want to keep his handle to himself so that he feels he can review honestly, and not be pressured into being less so since he knows you may be reading the review later. A guy may geniunely like a provider and want to see her again, even if the scores aren't as high as she would like to see. That could be put at risk as well.
"Looks" scores have been a large point of contention on this site and should a guy feel pressured to give an 8 instead of a 7, or a 9 instead of an 8, to prevent a potential problem or hurt feeling?  Same thing with performance scores, it has happened, I'm sure.
My point being Tammy, that if someone doesn't want give you their handle (even though it's hard to agrue with a "want to please you better" intention) it may not be beacse they're paranoid. They may just be trying to keep their reviews as objective as possible.

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Be honest in your reviews it's a disservice to everyone here ... let's face it there are some providers that should NOT be in business along with ALL agencies (MO) that said the same can be said about us hobbiest .......

I've at least gotten them to give me their Posting handles, along with their Reviewing handles, so, like you I could read their reviews, and then if they didn't want to write one, they certainly didn't have to.

It's not all about the reviews anyway..

Sigh..

If it's not all about the reviews then what is it you are looking for?  I do believe you can read someones reviews and be able to tell a little about their personality, maybe compatibility.

I believe that it is for many other providers.  If you read the complaints on these boards from various providers about the numerical ratings they received or the verbage contained in a review and how they were so upset about the review it would be hard not to feel that the reviews are of extreme importance to many ladies.  And I believe that for every lady who actually complains there are many more that feel the same way but don't post on the boards.  We are not even touching on the reviews that ladies ask staff to remove.  In many cases I am sure they are phony reviews but in other cases they probably just did not like the review.

I agree with lostronin that many guys would not be able to write objective reviews once they had given their TER handle to a provider.

In addition I have heard the following comments from various providers after reading a gentleman's reviews.

"I don't want to see him because has seen Jane Doe or else he has seen too many high volume providers".  "I don't want to see him because his ratings(not enough 9's and 10's) are too low".  "I don't want to see him because he doesn't seem to enjoy himself" (translated as they don't read like penthouse forum).  "I don't want to see him because his reviews are too explicit" (translated as they read like penthouse forum).

Personally in some cases I am willing to give out my TER handle because I am essentially no longer an active reviewer.  Normally I would only write a review on a new lady with few reviews or a lady where my experience was significantly different than other reviewers.

But ladies please don't act like you just can't figure out why a hobbyist is not anxious to give his handle out to every lady that asks for it.

Sedona may be alluding to the insights found in an individuals posts. Knowing one or more of a members aliases can give insight to their largest sex organ....Their mind.

Personally i hate the number system,,Way back when i used to review under a diffrent handle..i often gave 10's...i was constantly  bugged with " how can you have more than one in a lifetime experiences"  I just told myself these loosers who nitpick over everything are just loosers themselves.
Anyhoo...lol whatever.
sham

I do not ever use aliases on TER.  I am always Fortitude wherever and whenever I write reviews, post on dicussion boards or chat in chat rooms.

There are times that I do not even like aliases others use.  Then I don't know who I'm communicating with.

If a provider asks me for my handle I will provide it.  If I want her, for whatever reason, to know my handle I tell her who I am.  If, by providing a gal with my TER handle, she elects not to see me, I just find someone to my liking who will. My dead Presidents are as good as the next guy's.  I write lots of reviews, I try to be honest, objective, and not hurtful.  The vast bulk of my reviews are very positive because I've done my homework in advance.

I have yet to be turned down by a provider because of my TER presence, and in fact there have been instances where it has made my "dates" more interested in seeing me.

My .02

F.



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I agree with fortitude completely. I use the same handle for everything on TER and don't mind giving it out.

In fact, I volunteer it when first contacting a provider, to make her screening easier. I travel a lot and some of the providers are looking for local references that I can't give. Being able to read my reviews seems to set them more at ease.

Like fortitude, I screen very carefully before I contact anyone and my reviews reflect the fact that I've already tried to be sure that I'm going to be with someone who "fits my style." I know that I won't have a good time unless I've been careful to find a lady who plays to mine. So, again like fortitude, my reviews tend to be pretty good because I usually find that the experience is what I was expecting or more.

Of course, as anyone who reads my reviews will see, my screening techniques don't always work so well, but that is not another post for another thread.

Stumpy - your first paragraph: Exactly! Way too much importance placed on reviews! That's what I mean by my comment, above, "it's not all about the reviews" (just like commenting, 'it's not about the money'). HAVING reviews is important - particularly favorable ones - but otherwise, it's gotten way out of whack.

The ladies like to read a potential dates' reviews to understand, as Tammy pointed out, his likes, dislikes, and his writing style. Graphic and vulgar is a turn off. I will also, then, do a Message Search and read his posts to know how he thinks. And, yes, I will see who he's dated as part of a deciding factor. That IS important - just as it's important for you all. Withholding that information is not right - we must make INFORMED decisions before accepting.

Again, please read my "Comments on the thread" in Steepslopes Review thread, so I don't repeat here.

Thanks, Stumpy.

S

I agree with Fortitude, I always use my handle with reviews and board, I have no reason to hide like many do, even if it means to inflame somebody, lol.

Also most of time I volunteer my TER handle to providers I contact for the first time. I was pleased to learn that many providers have read my reviews in advance and made the first meeting much easier and rewarding.

I completely agree with Fortitude.  

There may be some reasons hobbyists using TER would "have to" hide aspects of their identity, but I think it more than fair for the women to want to be able to check up on guys...they are literally putting their ass on the line.  If some guys have a compelling reason to hide things (public figure, government employee, married to a computer expert , then they simply may miss some gals who need more info to be sure about their visit. That is the tradeoff.

However, as to not being able to post honest reviews if you want to see the provider again or to reviews being inflated to curry favor with a provider, maybe it happens, but if it does, then it is our own fault, guys.  I have never said something I didn't stand behind on a review I made.  I admittedly have not seen a plethora of providers, but I have been fortunate to only have good experiences, and it is because, for the most part, I did my homework.

As with most of life, if you are honest and open about things, whether people identify with you or not, they will respect you.  If a provider ever turned me down beause of someone else I saw or because I gave my honest opinion about an encounter, then I would want to go somewhere else anyway.

and always posting under Fortitude. it certainly gives one a frame of reference (not to mention credence) when posting using your real TER handle

i, on the other hand, find the comedic potentials of aliases irresistable (but at least try to make it clear and obvious that it's ME "hiding" behind those aliases

singularily yours,

Buckminster ("Bucky") Singleton III
(aka Cynicalman 2.0, A Participator, The Collector, etc ...)

first joined TER (Feb 2002), I was a paid member researching and reading other members' review.  I submitted a few of them but found the work tedious and time consuming so I stopped.

I was in a girl crazy mode and saw many ladies in LA in a short period of time.  Three of those encounters changed my view.  Subsequently, I started to post messages on the board and submitted many, many reviews.

I saw 2 top rated ladies in LA at the time, both of them have many reviews of 9s and 8s.  However, when I saw them in person, in my judgment, their looks should be rated 6 and 5.  (I am pretty leninent on rating ladies but I treat a 7 as the passing grade.)

The other lady I saw has only 1 review even though she worked for a popular agency.  The reviewer stated that she was one of the best looking ladies he ever met.  I chose to try her out and indeed she was gorgeous.

After these encounters, I decided I should contribute back the TER community and do whatever I can to provide as much as possible the correct info to other members.  After all, with that reviewer's review, I would never meet that lady.  If more members wrote more truthful reviews, I would be more prepared for the bad results.

It might seem high minded, naive and full of oneself, but that is indeed my purpose and it reflected in the way I wrote my reviews.

Since I have posted many reviews, if a lady learned of my TER handle, she would treat me differently than how she would treat other reviewers.  My review of her will then be skewed one way or another.  In some cases, I won't even have the chance to meet her and report back my finding if the lady knew that I would write an truthful but unvarnished review.  That sort of defeated my purpose.

I guess everyone has to follow their own ways of doing things. You and rick2 are the ones who don't mind letting other ladies know about your handles.  However, many other veteran reviewers, especially in LA, have stopped submitting new reviews all together.  I don't know for sure why.  But I think in many case, the TER handle screening process is a contributing factor.

*** added **

For those few ladies who knew my TER handle.  That usually occurred after I saw them several times already and knew a lot about each other's personal life.  ( For those I eventually submitted a review, I tried hard not to skew my rating.  In fact, one of them I gave her a 7 in look which is a fair assessment.  JMHO, inflated ratings don't help anyone in the long run. )


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who stopped submitting (new) reviews ... whether or not the TER handle screening process was a contributing factor or not.

i think there ARE ways to submit reviews that are factual and informative (but perhaps not timely!) that would nevertheless maintain the reviewer's anonymity. i have already devised a set of "tools" to help in this regard if-n-when necessary in the future


now as for Spec! LOL ... i have to say that in the few MONTHS that i've known him, he seems to have "matured" over the YEARS and has come to be one of those guys who prefer WOMEN who are SANE! (for a change

I understand your point, but I also understand the reasons of some of the guys who have posted that they won't do it.

It can be something of a two-edge sword because of how some gals react to a review that might be less than they'd hoped for..& this is regardless of the tact used by the reviewer in his description of the encounter.  Unfortunately, the primary emphasis seems to be placed on the numerical scores given at the expense of the written text.  The reaction of those 'some' I've mentioned is somewhat understandable as their biz can be affected as long as the guys remain so focused on the numbers.  

But some guys simply don't think either...I've had two gals in the past tell me about two different guys 'using' my review in a way no review should ever be used...once it was read over the phone word for word (along with the numerical scores) & in the other case it was printed out & shown to the gal when he arrived for the session.  Sad to realize some people are this stupid, but it's apparently true.    

IMO it's the numerical ratings that are maybe the biggest single factor for negative provider reactions, & possibly thus a large part of the inflated scores that guys often complain about.  Yet we see instances where a guy writes an honest review of a gal & maybe scores her maybe two points lower than a lot of others have done & guys will rip him on the boards for it.  

I seldom write reviews any more unless I see a specific reason to do so.  The reasons I've mentioned aren't behind that decision & are only a minor factor, if any factor at all.  But I can see how some guys might be reluctant to review for those reasons.  Of course some guys simply don't believe in writing reviews period & they're entititled to feel that way IMO.  

Unfortunately Sedona I think you may be the exception rather than the rule.  Because as you stated many women are very concerned about their reviews and ratings.  I believe many ladies want the TER handle along with the other screening information to try and make sure that they don't get a bad review not to try and see if they are a fit with the client.

As to your comment that it is wrong to withhold this information that would be true in an ideal world.  And in an ideal world the ladies would know every bit of information about us and we would know every bit of information about the ladies such as your real name, address etc, whether you are likely to threaten us with outing us to the whole world as the lady in an email to staff did as shown on the thread below.  We would know how many gentlemen you actually see, whether you use protection with all of these gentlemen, whether you are mentally stable or erratic, whether you have a criminal record or not, and you would know corresponding information regarding us. And unfortunately most of this does not come through on any review.  Every hobbyist and provider would tell each other the truth all the time.  And as one provider said on a previous thread when a lady tells you how few men she sees treat it with the same degree of skepticism  as "the check is in the mail".

Unfortunately we are all stuck living in the real world.  

Please read my "comments" in Sybaritic1's Why we need references etc. thread.  

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as Honesty is the best policy, and manipulation is not a virtue..

Sigh..