When a provider tells you she only has one client per day or that she's really into the sex more than the money? I don't think you can believe them. I am tired of spending my hard earned money only to rushed through a session so she can make the next one. Good customer service keeps them coming back. Here is an example of GOOD customer service: I recently met this one lady and she has certainly proved to me she is worthy of becoming an ATF. I'll tell you why, she's advertises in a local publication (no website, so I can't review) and screens very carefully. She is VERY discreet and has reasonable rates ($$$) for the hour. My most recent visit was fantastic. To start, when she says no rush service, she means it! We got into it so much I ended up spending FIVE hours with her! (reason #1 to believe she only has one client per day) When I repeatedly offered to tip her because the session went so long she kept declining (reason #2 to believe she was not into it for the money) I have not conversed with any of her other clients, but she says this is typical of the service she offers.
Some of you may not really care, but guys next time a provider tells you she only has one client per day or really likes the sex more than money, think about this post. Have you ever had a session like this?
I mean really, even $$$ a day times 7 days a week is still more than most may make in a WHOLE MONTH. I'm not against making a living, but come on ladies, if you say it mean it!

Well, some actually only do see 1 to 2 men. I look at it this way, if you say to me that you wanted me just for an hour. I will be honest and say that I will need to schedule someone else for later or earlier, for I will not get a room for just an hour, that is a waste of my monies being spent. If you want to see me for more than an hour, then I would be happy to only just see you. I am no longer in my 20's here, so the thought of seeing more than 2 men, actually is a turn off. Also another scenerio that bugs me to hell: men who overstay their welcome, so to speak. If you say an hour, make it an hour. Remember, I might have things to do after, or might have another client that I might have to see, so I need that half hour/ or hour space in between to take a shower, prepare the room, etc., for that other client. I don't think it's fair for the other client to be waiting, and nor to myself.

Surely it doesn't matter how many clients a provider sees in a day as long as the last one gets the same high level of no rushed service as the first one?  Personally, I know I couldn't be as enthusiastic or energentic with the Xth guy as with the first which is one of the reasons I don't see multiple clients per day (the other being I wouldn't enjoy it and I wouldn't escort at all if I didn't enjoy it).

I've never told anybody I'm more into the sex than the money because I need the money to live so obviously I'm into the money too.  I love being able to have lots of sex and make a living from it.  I love escorting because I get to meet lots of great people and have lots of great sexual adventures but also because it offers me a very flexible lifestyle which enables me to travel as much as I want whilst also building a secure financial future for myself.

>Surely it doesn't matter how many clients a provider sees in a >day as long as the last one gets the same high level of no >rushed service as the first one?

I agree with you Carrie, unfortunately the providers over here have seemed to turn things into a production line and forgotten about good customer service. I was in Europe a few years back and the women there do seem to care about seeing that the gents have a good time as well more than this side of the pond. is it the European water or just proper upbringing?

so did you end up paying 1500 for your 5 hours?  if not, why would you think that's fair?  call me crazy, but i leave on time or compensate them for any overtime.

Carrie, you seem sincere and a quick look at your website gives me a woody. Let me know if you ever visit Boston!

As for one client per day, it is hard to believe but there are certainly some out there.  I don't mind spending time with a provider who goes more than once perr day, as long as she is fresh and providing good service.

I understand that most of the time, this is their livelihood, so yes, it is about the money.  The key is finding a provider that really does enjoy the sex as well (Carrie seems to fit here). I have met plenty in this category, and some go overtime and don't ask for or care about more $$, but i have yet to have a five hour session for the price of 1.  Good for you (and her!).

Jay ...

I'd never believe a provider who says she has only one client a day.   I'm not saying that doesn't HAPPEN ... it's just that the smart money wouldn't bet on it.

Moreover ... I don't CARE!!!!!!   Like Carrie said .. as long as *I* get the service and attitude I'm looking for .... I couldn't care LESS what she does the rest of the time.

With that said ... it does make an interesting point for providers to consider:  When you tell a client "what they want to hear"   -- even when it happens to be the unvarnished TRUTH ... keep in mind that it should be within the client's range of percieved reality.

When you tell me "nobody makes me feel like you do"   that MAY in fact be 100% true!   It's possible that I AM the greatest thing since plastic plants ... or it could equally be true that no one has QUITE instilled within you the homocidal RAGE that I do.   But the thing is ... consider the listener:  Either way ... I'm more LIKELY to think that you're not only exaggerating ... but that you think that I'm stupid enough to believe it.

Maybe you only DO see one client a day.   Maybe you and I really DO bond better than any other client you have [if that's the case, you need to see a better class of client!].  Maybe you DO really like the sex more than the money [more than money??? that makes me think we have NOTHING in common!].   But keep in mind I'm likely to think you're trying to 'work me.'

I'd rather hear "some days I have 6 clients ... other days, when I don't feel like I can give 100% ... I don't take any"  instead of "I only see one quality man per day [and you wasted than one opportunity on ME???]."

I'd rather hear "Some clients I really like and look forward to seeing ... others are such animals I just can't wait to have them wrap my ankles back around my neck ... and a few others make it seem like a chore" instead of "I'm into sex so much, I come every time" [then you DEFINATELY haven't seen ME!].

Jay .. in an earlier post on a different subject I said .... I actually LIKE to see a girl with a few "so-so" reviews in her packet.  THAT makes me think that she's a real person with good days and bad days ... and that she puts her honest personality into each session.... not ALL of which can be perfect.

Show me a girl with 20 reviews ... all 10's across the board ... never a single bad word said by anyone .. for any reason ... and I'll show you a girl that COULD just be a Robo-Ho  (tm Megapig)



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Yes, I do think there are ladies out there that do lie about that fact in a misguided effort to strum the right strings, but on the other hand, the idea of seeing one gent a day or only three to four gents a week isn't outlandish.  

The grossest misperception is that every single lady is in this full time.  There are many part time ladies that hold jobs during the day and just supplement their income in this endeavor.  With that, it would be impossible for some ladies to see six or seven gents a day.  For some ladies, seeing more clientele per day is just something she may not feel comfortable with.

As for it not being about the $$$, well, of course it is to a degree, but for some it is not the overall driving factor and there are ladies that actually enjoy this endeavor for more than the bottom line.  I think a gent would be able to tell from the services that a lady provides.

Lauren

Please be honest and let everyone know why this woman is such an exception.  To begin with she is deaf, dumb and blind.  She is also 85 years old and has a hard time remembering anything much less what time of the day it is. Tipping the scales at just a little over 300 pounds is even too much for the guys who like BBW.  I realize that someone of such large stature has a difficult time bathing, but for the sake of the neighbors, she should at least try a sponge bath once in a while.  You have something special here and I certainly don’t blame you for keeping her a secret.  I have no doubt whatsoever you are her only client for the day.

I have not seen a lot of providers (maybe 12 ?) but have never been told she only sees a few guys a day and damn it no one has spent 5 hours with me (I always excuse myself since I don't want to overstay my welcome - of course I would stay if they insisted).  

I agree with one of the comments that it is a big turn-off when the woman feigns too much.  This has only happened to me once and it was such a turn off - 2 minutes into it she starts faking an orgasm.  I may not appear to be the most intelligent guy, but I don't look stupid.

By the way, I too would love to see Carrie come to Boston (and also got a woody looking at pics).  Carrie, you look like the singer Jewel to me.

Megapig, this is the funniest damn thing I've ever read!  You're a master of self-effacing humor; and your words are right on.

idea.  The no rush session should only mean that there is a smooth transition to the end, not an extended session.

It is just unfair to the ladies to create that kind of expectation out there.  If a hobbyist desires to spend more time with a lady to enjoy her companionship, that's what multiple hour sessions are for.

Just my 2 cents.

If you feel you are being rushed through sessions, then you are seeing the wrong providers for you.  Sounds like you just saw the perfect provider for you and you should keep seeing her.

If you follow pro sports then you know most athletes have a limited period of time to make the maximum amount of money.  Providers are the same way.  You can't begrudge them making the maximum amount of money they can consistent with providing a good product.  If you need more time than an hour, book for more than an hour.  Why should anyone be happy with $2100/week if they have the time, energy, and desire to make more?

I can guarantee when I see my ATF I am the only one she sees because I only book her for the day.  We may have a great time together and if she were a civilian, we might be dating but there is no question in anyones mind that she does it for the money.  That doesn't mean she doesn't like your job.  It just means she is not going to do it unless she gets paid.  How is that different from any other job you know?  Would you really be willing to do your job for free even if you loved it?

Time to get off that high horse and come back to earth. Grin(a very little grin)

it's acceptable to stay five hours when you were scheduled to stay one? Regardless of whether or not you offered her a tip, it's insulting to think that any of my clients would stay five hours when I invited them to stay for one. And yes, I enjoy sex, but I don't enjoy ANY profession enough to work for free or at a less than agreed upon rate.

The woman has free will.  You didn't stay for five hours because she can't tell time, you stayed because she wanted you to stay.

I've had one hour sessions turn into dinner or overnighters.  It's always been at the lady's suggestion because she was enjoying herself.  Maybe I was her last client of the day and she wanted to unwind with someone.  Or maybe we clicked and had good chemistry.  But whatever the reasons, it wouldn't have happened if she didn't want it to happen.

Sometimes you're escorted to the door after an hour and that's fine.  But sometimes you might also be asked to go out for drinks.  If you're both OK with it, who cares what the reasons are behind it.

The ladies I've had impromptu longer dates with have always only wanted to be paid for our "session" time, and figured the rest was mutually agreed upon fun and, therefore, off the clock.  These were always enjoyable because they happened spontaneously.  

Of course that goes against the mantra often repeated on this board-- Men must pay, pay god damn it, for everything, pay all the time, PAY, PAY, PAY!   "My one hour rate is $500 and my two hour rate is $900 and I offer a total GFE."  Yeah, I bet you do.  

The women who offer true GFE's are the women that sincerely enjoy men's company, and aren't putting on an act.  If THEY choose to invite you to socialize a bit on the side with them, then it's their choice to do so.  I've yet to find one of these ladies have a punch clock next to the bed to remind you of the fact you're the paying customer.



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"Robo-Ho" - LOL! I'm gonna use that one!

with your posts - so right on.
I'm at about 1-2 dates a month these days, as I just am really busy, and when I schedule a date, I want to be sure that it has my undivided attention.
Ideally, I'd be happy to date maybe once a week, but then I'd be 'pushing' it as then the likelihood of cancelling increases because, as we all know, when one thing changes in your schedule, it's the domino effect - you have to rotate everything else.

I have another business that dictates the gents that I do see.  I do see one gent a day, for I do have to take care of the other and on average maybe three gents a week.  There have been a few occassions in which I have seen gents everyday of the week, depending on whether or not I am up to it.  What can I say, I am a horndog-LOL!  

Lauren

I've been very fortunate that I've only been rushed a few times.  I no longer see those ladies.  

There are two great experiences that really come to mind.  There is one lady who I have become a regular with who only does it P/T to supplement her income.  She sees one person on Friday and one on Saturday.  She is stunning (looks like Kristin Davis from Sex & the City), is funny and very intelligent.  We enjoy spending time together (not to mention that I "bribe" her with a nice massage).  Each of the two times we have been together she has been there well over 2 hours (about 2 hours 20 minutes) and I only booked one hour.  Her rate is very fair $$&1/2.  I do tip her for the extra time but she does not expect it.

Another experience with a lady in LV was very much the same.  We had a nice time together.  The session lasted 2 hours (booked for one).

I've been very lucky and I hope the ladies enjoyed themselves as well.

I've been fortuante enough to experience many of the impromptu extended dates Counterpoint mentions...quite a few of them actually, in some cases for more extra hours than I'm going to state.  And because I'm certainly not anything more than an average guy, the reason has to be that we simply kinda 'clicked' & enjoyed the hang-out time.  

And because I do outcall dates almost exlusively, it's never a case of me overstaying without compensation..the gal is free to leave any time she wishes.  The first couple of times this happened I even pointed out the time & was basically told not to worry about it.  I don't even mention it any more...I figure the gal can tell time as well as I can, & as long as I'm in no rush for her to leave then she's welcome to stay the longer time.  

Some, maybe most, gals would never think of spending any appreciable amount of extra time without compensation.  That's their choice & I wouldn't try to change it or argue with it.  But as Counterpoint mentions in his last paragraph, there are ladies who simply enjoy the company if they're compatiable with the guy..I think for many of them that it's an important part of how much they enjoy themselves.

I agree with both Counterpoint and Greywolf.  There are several providers in the Los Angeles area whose sessions consistently run much longer than the compensated time.  It is reflected in the comments made in their reviews on a pretty consistent basis.

In addition at any given time you may click with a lady or you are her last appointment of the day and she feels like unwinding with you.  

I don't think you should go into an appointment with the idea that you are going to pay for an hour and a half and spend three but it does happen.

Sometimes hobbyists forget that although the ladies have to make a living not every lady is interested in squeezing every dollar out of you that she can.

easy profession for the ladies, I felt that they had to see more clients to compensate for the time I had taken from them during a session.

There are only so many free hours in a week for a lady to meet with clients.  With the knowledge that not every clients are fun to be with or desirable, I felt like I am taken advantage of them even though most of the time it is also her choice to stay around longer.

If the time slot is pre-arranged as a pseudo discount or we met as friends to do something besides sex, that would be different.

Recently I had a 2 hr appointment with a lady I am friendly with.  Something happened earlier that day which concerned her so we rounded up talking for close to 4 hrs.  We were so involved in the topic we simply forgot about the time.  I should have known better to stop the conversation much earlier.  She actually missed an appointment from a regular who was in town to see her that night.

She was just too tired to do anything when we realized how late it was.  She flatly refused to accept any money from me and she also lost the donation from the other guy.  Since her rate was high, her loss was quite significant.  She had to work extra hard with strangers to earn that back.

She is a very proud person so I could not insist upon her to accept my donation on that night.  I have yet to find an acceptable way to compensate her for the loss and I still feel really bad about it.  The only thing I can think of at this point is to see her more often.

I, too, love to see a lady who does something special for me.  However, if it happened unintentionally and quite often, maybe we should all think a bit more about the welfare of the ladies we cared about.  After all, they are in this profession to make money.

If the relationship had changed, it is better to be upfront about it.  Otherwise, if this kind of things happened most of the time, I am afraid that the lady might slowly develope the idea that she was being taken advantage of; which in turn is not a good thing for either party.

Just my own preculiar way of thinking.  Don't think many will agree with me about this one.

I have provided a few sessions like that as sometimes I do seem to click with certain clients more so than others.  Yes that is probably because I don't work fulltime at this and usually only have 1 or 2 clients a day and only work 2-3 days a week, so I have a bit more flexibility with my time.  I do however sometimes have to end the appointment at the pre-determined time, as I do have other obligations in my life (family, working a fulltime job, going to school), so don't always assume that because one ends the appointment at the time requested for, one is always rushing off to get ready for another appointment.  I myself do not schedule back to back appointments because that is not the way I like to work.  If I do have another appointment, I will usually schedule it for sometime later in the day or evening and if it's another incall, I will pick a different location (it's not as economical, however discretion is much more important to me for both parties) so that I come in with a fresh attitude.  The only exception I have is when traveling.  I will see up to 3 appointments per day, but again, I usually pick a city I like visiting and it ends up being a mini-vacation with expenses paid and few bucks to bring back home
Sorry if you have been rushed in the past with others, but I can only say, plan accordingly to your needs and sometimes opting for an extra 30 minutes can help with certain situations.  As for the girls who charge for an hour and then end the session early, shame on you.  Either state on your site with your rates that it's $$$ per event or stay the whole hour as that person is paying for your time.
Something else to consider: As much as we all may like parts of our jobs/careers, how often do you stay longer at work and not be expected to be paid for your time?  As I said before, from time to time, some of us do stay longer and not expect more payment cause we are enjoying our work a bit more with certain clients than others and then other times the girls may stay longer because they have low self esteem and want the good review so desperately and not be labeled with the dreaded clockwatcher term and stay longer.  With the later type, more times than not, they are the one's who end up being the most resentful when leaving the business.
Just thoughts and points to consider~

as an addition to my original post, I forgot until today about the part where providers tell you they delete all traces of you after a session. well I don't believe that anymore either! today I received not one but THREE calls from a provider I have not seen in close to a YEAR! she was calling to tell me about her summer special she is having. lucky for me, my SO is out of town on business. yes, she left the messages on my home machine with her name and cell number! why did I give her my personal information? you tell me. providers are so reluctant to give you one ounce of information about themselves, but are sooooooo quick to get all your personal information because they "require" it for their safety. did I mention that I have not seen this provider in close to a YEAR? I know this is not typical of all providers, but who ya gonna trust when this happens to you? what's next? pay me $$$ just because or I'll tell your SO? what about our safety?