A few of us ladies were discussing some things that can lead to a less than stellar date.  I'm certain most of you know this, but no harm in repeating for a few.

1. Don't show up early and stand watching as your date checks in and/or jump in the elevator and say "HI ____" as she's heading to your room.

2. Don't ask us to be on-call for you.  i.e.: I've got meetings til late, don't know when I'll be done.  We'll probably be busy when you call.  

2. Don't treat my email box like an instant messaging system.  

3. Don't book an open ended date i.e.: 2 maybe 3 hours depending on how we do?  

4. Don't send questions that could get me into trouble. i.e. sexually explicit

5. Don't call me last minute if I don't know you.  The lady you use as a reference will probably not be available and it makes for a hectic first meeting.  It's best to call or email a lady in advance.  Tell her you usually book last minute and want to get security issues taken care of for this reason.

6. Don't gossip about other providers.  We know you'll do the same with the next lady.

7. Please respect our time.  If you come late/stay late, extending our date makes my day hectic and I get reviews reflecting so.  

8. Don't bother asking if I'm clean, assume I'm not.  If I had an STD and was still working, would I tell you the truth anyway?  Thus, the reason we always use protection.  

9. Don't short my fee and think I won't call you.  It's a matter of respect at that point.

10. Shower when you arrive.  Yes, I know you showered before work, but even an hour in the car is enough for many.

11. Don't bartor before or during our date.  

12. Don't arrive under the influence.

13. Do your homework, read the reviews and profile.  i.e. If she's too tall, too young/old, has implants or chubby/thin.  Her profile and reviews will reflect that.  Who's to blame, you.  YOU chose to see her.      

If you want a stellar date, be one yourself

Yes, everything you said was good and true.  Every hobbyst should take what you said to heart.

Now for a few tips for providers when seeing a hobbyst:

[1] If you say you are a GFE, make sure you ARE a GFE before you take that appointment.  If you don't know what someone expects a GFE to be, ask around and do some homework.

[2] Show up on time.  If you are late for reasons beyond your control, call please.  We don't forsee the future and cannot read minds.

[3] If it hurts, say so.  Again, we can't read minds, Don't go complaining after the fact.  Most hobbysts are there to enjoy you and not hurt you.

[4] Don't ask for a tip.  If you feel your fee is too low, raise it.  A tip is voluntary.  You don't necessarily get one if you simply "did the task".  Most tips are for services of a quality above and beyond the call.

[5] Bathe before you arrive.  Lots has been said about hobbysts and their lack of hyigene.  Well guess what, smelling like the last man you were with on OUR date is really a turn off.

[6]If you have a substance problem, please deal with it BEFORE you get to the room.  That means to show up sober and in a good mood, not stoned or so cranked off that you cannot keep your mind on the task at hand.

[7] If we want to hear about your husband/boyfriend or kids/parents or roommate/SO, we'll ask.  Otherwise it is too much information for the time at hand.

[8] As with tips, if you are having financial difficulties, please raise your fees (before you commit to a date) and leave the matter at home.  Personally, I charge for financial/credit counseling, so unless you are looking to knock off say, 50%, of the escort fee after we spend our time together for an additional hour of counseling, please stow it.

[9] Unless you are a known commodity, please don't expect payment in advance.  I know, I know, you think you might get ripped off.  Well, look at how many of us hobbysts get ripped off by paying in advance.  You are checking our references and we are checking your reviews, so neither party should have to put anything at risk.  The only providers I pay up front are those with great reviews and then only the first time we meet so they get established with me.  After that, the donation is sitting (in full) on the night stand in an envelop.  Collected upon leaving (and count it before so if you wish).

[10] Neither one of us is a hunk of meat!  Most hobbysts try not to treat a provider as anything but a valued guest (yes, there are exceptions).  In return, please don't treat us like johns or wallets.  A little good will goes along way in both directions.

[11] An hour of time is 60 minutes in length.  You are providing your time, yes, but I believe we (the hobbysts) get to set the agenda.  If you want to chat, eat, drink, etc and before or after at our invitation, great, that is on our dime.  What isn't acceptable is your expectation of a 30 minute gab session to "set the mood" prior to anything happening.  If you feel the need for an "ice breaker", meet me in the bar or at the cafe for a drink or a coffee PRIOR to our time together.  Unless I need the ice breaker, I don't see the point of paying for your indecision.  BTW, the best providers I have known have made the "ice breaker" a very sensual experience.  That I don't mind at all.

[12] While we are on the subject of time, if you and I decide to extend a session for another period of time, please don't assume that is your cue to split in less than that additional period of time.  In other words, if you agree to stay for an additional hour, please don't "remember" you have an appointment 30 minutes into the additional time.

Just my opinion and I could be wrong.
Loarthan

-- Modified on 8/30/2004 10:10:51 AM

-- Modified on 8/31/2004 8:39:15 AM

1.) If you need to "go in" for a guy cause he's worn out, please hold the number sign very high so everyone can see the substitution.

2.) If you don't have young people to run in with towels and rub down the playing surface for you after you've dug the ball, please take a moment to do it yourself.  It could be dangerous for the next player.

3.) For God's sake, please don't have any hard or sharp objects in your pockets.

4.) Don't just slap the ass of the other team after the game.  Really shake hands with heart.

5.) You can talk to the other team after the game is over if you both feel like it.  But if you don't speak the same language communication can be difficult.

I think both parties made valid points! Great job to you both!
and I would like to add on to both points being made

Everything about the client/provider should be known upfront, before an actual date is set to meet!!

This thread reminds me of a session I had about a couple of weeks ago with a newbie: he had rotten teeth!!!!!!!!!!!! I wish that if people are aware of the shape of their teeth and expect to be french kissed, that they should be upfront about it, so both paries can make a choice to either proceed or cancel the date
before meeting: I had a client, and after 15 minutes of him entering the room, him opening up his mouth, and attempting to deep french kiss me, I ended our appt. and gave him back his money, and explained as a gently as I possibly could about the condition of his teeth (I am not lying here, he had some front teeth missing. The ones that were there were litteraly yellow with black holes in them! NO LIE!!!!!), and was able schedule last minute one  of my reg's, who had initially called earlier that day to meet. If someone expect's to be kissed, please please please make sure that your mouth is in the condition to be kissed. That should go for both providers and clients. Also, I firmly believe that if either party is turned off by one another monies should NOT be exchanged and given back to whomever. The session should end immediately with no hard feelings on either side.

-- Modified on 8/30/2004 12:06:23 PM

"Kiss me you fool"...

and what a kisser...Pucker up!

Cheers!



-- Modified on 8/30/2004 12:29:34 PM

Altho if someone is a drug addict I'm not sure that they will a) be reading this, b) be able to listen even if they do read, or c) remember it when they are out looking for their next hit.

I suppose avoiding drug addicts is the best bet all around. =:O I feel for them, I really do, but most of the time no one can help them until they are ready anyways.

Of course the same holds true for obstinate rude clients... they aren't the ones who read all these nifty tips any gosh darned ways. Annoying how that works!

Hugs*
Tamara

As a client, I have had a provider that we both wanted to see on a 'regular' basis, bugger out on me before the time was up...or late as hell....can't understand simple directions (ie., NORTH SOUTH EAST WEST) or not call when a problem comes up (poo-poo happens sometimes....but not two times in a row).

The big one is the talk time. I'm ok with a 5-10min thing but 30min later is a tad much. I like the idea of meeting for a drink before hand....that is a nice one...and a good way to be relaxed with eachother...and it sounds like fun. But when we hit the bed....its time to get busy.

I've had providers that show up and DO NOT look like their pic's. On the other hand, I know two providers that her pic's really do NOT do her justice and said so. they  are knock outs in person.

If your late, call. If you say you will call at a certin time, do so. If you must cancle...call and set up another time and offer something for our trouble. Its only good biz.......

Thanks for all you do ladies.....
Oz

and have yet to get ripped off. I think it makes for a more relaxed provider IMHO

Ladies have these rules of thumb plastered all over their web sites, it's nice to see the guys point of view in rebuttal.

Both posts seem (IMHO) like common sense, but as they say, common sense isn't that common.