I went mongering a couple of weeks ago.  It was someone I had eyed on craigslist for a while.  She works out of her townhouse.  Its in a pretty nice area.  We did a modified version of the two call system where I called her from a near by convenience store and talked on the phone with her till I found her driveway and she had me park there.

The session went well enough but when I was in the driveway and when I pulled out there were a lot of people around.  It was a Saturday afternoon in the summer so you can imagine.

I'd like to see her again but I have concerns about a nosy neighbor taking down car tags or some issue like that.  

Most of the other prostitutes I visited who worked out of their home were in apartment complexes or a city area where you can park a ways away and walk.  

It made me worried.

What are your thoughts?

Weekends are sometimes not good for a static incall location depending on who lives in the area. I wouldn't worry so much about the neighbor actually taking down your tag as opposed to her neighbors being suspicious and reporting her...

If it makes you uncomfortable just tell her how you felt and offer to get a hotel room. There is no foul in protecting yourself and making it as comfortable as possible. The little you will spend on a room with go a long way with assuaging your conscience.

On the other hand I have an incall apartment that I keep as well. It's in a very nice part of town with most of the residents being working professionals. There are hardly any children in the complex and 90% of the residents are not home during the day.

Know your provider. I scoured my entire city for the perfect place before I settled on mine. The wait, and the price to keep it are totally worth it.

Alyssa

I would say it depends on the amount of appts she sets and how much 'traffic' comes in and out of the location. I offer incall from my small apt; however I never see more than 3 'friends' a week, so there is minimal traffic. Im the only tenant in the building, as the other 3 tenants are at work til 5pm. I also have off street parking, so its very discrete and private. Those I see on a regular basis are very happy with my location.

Everyone's setup is different.

Just my .02...

BJ

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I saw a lady in NYC that lived in Time Square and she did a two call system that asked you to call from a busy area in Time Square.  

I did this about 6 years ago and I think she still does it.  It was to her home as far as I can tell.  

As the previous reponse said, it's all about what the area is used to.

It seems to me that a lot of ladies, especially those new to the business (which is likely with a CL gal), don't think too clearly about what they're doing, when they work from home (or another fixed incall location).

They think neighbors won't notice, or that there won't be problems down the line. If you own your own home, there could be real trouble. A lot of states have laws that were designed ostensibly for drug dealers, which allow LE to take your house if it's being used in the commission of a crime. The worst part is that they can take your house before you're even convicted... and if you're acquitted, you have to fight to get it back.

I do think some of these women just don't feel they are at risk. They don't realize that a healthy dose of paranoia is good for you.

I had a friend recently running an agency, allowing multiple girls to do incalls out of one apartment. LE had photos of all the comings and goings.

Another friend worked out of her home for five years. A neighbor let her know that they were on to her.

I myself had a lovely incall, but after a year or so, a client reported that LE had pulled him over after leaving my house, asking all sorts of questions about me and what he was doing at my house. I was freaked out for a while, but then realized that as long as I never saw another client at that location, they couldn't hurt me. I moved.

IMO, one should only work out of a fixed incall for one year, no more. Don't wait until there's trouble to move! I also don't like the idea of sharing my incall with others; aside from the personal problems that can cause, the amount of traffic coming and going would be too much. I always make sure my door doesn't face a neighbor's door. I don't work on cul-de-sacs, or quiet streets, but stick to busy neighborhoods. Multiple entrances and exits are great, too.

Conversely, I've known ladies who've worked out of the same incall location for years, but in those cases, the setup for the client's entrance was very anonymous (big building, with multiple floors, etc.).

Super-low-traffic providers don't have to worry so much; I'm not high-traffic myself, but even just one client a day will eventually be noticed over the course of a couple years... and I think almost everyone has a neighborhood busybody.

There's so much thought that goes into incall selection... and doing this job in general. There's a lot of work involved, things that maybe most clients don't think about.

Sorry for the long post!
xxxooo
Beverly ;-*

Or in a nearby parking lot or garage?

Just wondering.

The little anticapatory walk can be a lot of fun and 'part of the experience'.

Knowing or looking up your provider's last name is a good defense to have, for the unlikely event someone asks you why you're there: "Oh, my old friend So-and-So."

Years ago I worked for the phone company.  If I was going to a residential incall, I always carried my tool belt.  Excellent camo, but restricted to daylight hours,  and worked like a charm.  Didn't always make a great impression on the ladies, but when i explained why, they got over it.

but it requires that you have an attached garage.

She would meet you in a parking lot a few miles away on a busy street, and she would drive you to her house, pull in the garage and shut the door.  We could then enter the house from the garage without being noticed.

I've done the same for outcalls to my house.

and while it never presented a problem to me, in one instance, the lady was reported... and the cops did show up, and it did create a mess.  So, do I worry about such? yes.  

I would dress to the neighborhood when showing up... ie, if it is typical suburbia, I would not show up in a tux....  etc.  Upon leaving I would not shout, "Hey thanks for the great time! and I put a little extra in the envelop"!   Actually as one  provider put it, do your goodbye's in the house and upon opening the door ... say nothing...

in short do not draw attention to your presence.

I remember seeing that trick, as an innocent but precocious 11 year old, in the deservedly forgotten flick "A Guide For The Married Man" [1967].

Yeah, it's all about coming...and going [LOL].

...too cautionary to do so because reference to "Most of the other prostitutes"...

with BeverlyFisher....the provider that isn't careful is a sitting duck. WhenI do incall I book a hotel room, much easier that way.

that I have about having gentlemen over to my house.  Discretion, privacy on both of our parts, and respect for each other are just three things I consider.
My neighbors are aware I provide counseling out of my home and do not question comings and goings.  None of my visitors use the front door.
I think that staying on good terms w/ the neighbors is really important.
Complacency has no place in this business.

as others have said, it all depends on how cautious and aware the provider in question may be. i provide under very similar circumstances...out of my own home, in a somewhat upper middle class suburban neighborhood. this being an overcrowded area, neighbors are all very close together, so i am extremely cautious in the way i conduct business.

i always have clients park in the driveway, as i believe it'd be more suspicious to have strange men (however infrequently) walking down the street all heading to my house. if i see someone on a weekend, when people are all out and about in the yards and whatnot, i make sure it's someone i can trust to be very discreet. goodbyes are said inside, and i never walk outside with a client. it helps that my Husband does some consulting and sometimes sees clients at our home, this is something all immediate neighbors are well aware of because my Husband passed his cards around just to provide a good cover story regarding my providing.

also, i would never see more than one client on a weekend, just to keep potentially nosey neighbors at bay. but i'm also what many would consider to be very low volume...i typically see 2 people a week, 3 maximum, and there are some weeks where i see no one at all. if i were seeing clients daily then i'd be much more worried. the bottom line, if she is wise, and you use your own caution and common sense, it should be safe.

One of the providers I've seen I would put on my short list as an ATF, except that her incall is not that discreet.

She lives in a townhouse.  Actually, hers is in the middle row of about a half-dozen townhouses, and all of these townhouses face a quiet street, a common parking area, and another long row of townhouses.  Parking is out in the open, in front of townhouses in front and behind.

When I first saw her, I wound up parking a few townhouses away, and sat in my car to make the second call.  It turns out that I was parked directly across from a lady who was on her porch (or maybe when she saw me park there, she went out on her porch).  This was in the middle of the day, and I was wearing a suit, and there weren't too many peple about, so I was definitely conspicuous, and the porch lady watched me the entire way to the provider's house.  It certainly made me uneasy.  I wouldn't be surprised if she wrote down my license plate.

If I see that provider again, I will definitely park a couple of lots away and walk to her front door.

I think I'm going to need counseling in the next few months.

Same here Lilli. Great post. I agree with everything you wrote.

Sara

Here in the Baltimore/DC area, there was a prominent case recently about an escort doing incall in her house in a subdivision.  For the most part, the neighbors seem to have noticed unusual traffic, but figured it had something to do with home renovations.  The lady in question had gone through an acrimonious divorce, and I suspect her ex dropped a dime on her to the cops, leading to her arrest.  She was upset about this (for obvious reasons), and with everything that was going wrong in her life, she hanged herself.

That said, I don't think her case was very typical.  I've seen several ladies in their homes, and as long as discretion is practiced, it's never been an issue.  For that matter, I even saw one young lady in her dorm room at a local university; that required her to come meet me in the parking lot, and I didn't wear a suit, instead just dressing casually.

You can sometimes run into some weirdnesses.  I once saw a lady who brought dates into her roommate's bedroom, so we had to be careful not to make a mess on the sheets.  I know of another lady who gives her sessions in a room where her boyfriend keeps his athletic trophies.  Pets can also be an issue sometimes, especially if you've got allergies.

It does have its advantages.  Towel supply is hardly ever an issue, and if you're of a mind to do so, you can bring over a DVD to watch together.  Having a kitchen available is often handy in case you need some replenishment, and it can just feel a lot more like you're visiting a girlfriend.  I did rock a lady's world once in her kitchen with the specifically announced intention of giving her something to remember fondly when she was cooking dinner; she laughed when I brought it up, but she also got into the action intensely, too.