What was the OP?  When are you in LA?

The post is by a WOMAN....asking about how men think.

No need to answer her....you're hardly a thinking man.

I'm curious about the guys, who have never been with an ebony lady despite being interested.

Very fair, there are cultural differences. Differences which impact communication... but how can you spot interest, let alone successfully pursue it when communication is assumed to be different? Some of our mannerisms are different as well as personality, so looking at a picture by itself doesn't say much. Naturally until you're exposed you will be unsure. Before exposure you also have to pick the right lady, but again when blinded by minute differences that appear so large...its hard to pick the right lady from a group of women you know little about other than what you've assumed. I was unsure about white men once upon a time. So I can't take offense to this. I was apprehensive because it was simply new to me and since it was new my nerves clouded the reality that there honestly is no difference at all whatsoever. We communicate the same, have the same wants, feelings, strokes, you name it. Genetics is the only difference. I love the discovery! Makes me feel free to date anybody I want!!!

If you are attracted and haven't tried an ebony lady, what would make you comfortable? How much of it is just nerves?

I didn't even know it before hand because I had just answered an ad and believe it or not, I didn't even know what BF meant.  (Clueless or what!)

But boy, was I delighted to see her.

Sex is mainly about aethetics, and the look of white skin against black is amazingly erotic to me.

There is also something to be said about learning to be with people of different cultures and backgrounds (To that end, being with Asian born gals is far more challenging, but also rewarding.)

To anyone who holds back because of fear of the unknown:  You don't know what you're missing.

tits and ass is tits and ass.  make an appointment with her and have fun.

WTF IS YOUR PROBLEM DUDE. i THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT QUESTION TO A VALED CONCERN.

I'm getting awful docile in my old age

Re: what? ... ASSCLOWN ALERT! ASSCLOWN ALERT! eom

Re: what? ...

It's all pink inside.

Sweet Jesus at the well with a whore! Can you be anymore of an ASSCLOWN????

You're like Hiro, with an occasional bit of PC thrown in to mask your arrogance and condesention. (But, you lack Hiro's comprehension abilities so you are just that much more annoying.)

Did it occur to you that you might not UNDERSTAND the nuances of what she's talking about? Of course not.

If you grew up in an all white surrounding, who'd get it. If you grew up in an all black surrounding you'l get it. If you grew up in a mixed race surrounding, you'd get it.

Basically, IF YOU GREW UP, you'd get it.

Nice talking to ya! Keep posting! Be safe! Peace, Love, Dope!


HH

Genetics is the only difference? You don't have clue, there is very little difference in genetics in all of human race, one or two genes at the most.

Rememebr this:

Let us not judge a man by the color of his skin but the content of his character and if you don't know who said that, no point in ma telling you who did.

I love African-Americans but, for some reason, find few such women where there's a strong physical attraction.  That changed at a M&G where I met a totally delightful gal who I then saw.  What a great time and what a sexy beauty she is.  So for me, it's all about the individual.  I doubt that answers your question, but I also have a list of a couple more ebony ladies I'd love to see.  Anybody who wants to know more about why I liked this gal so much can read my most recent review.

You know as well as I do there are people here that refuse to see someone that doesn't share the same skin color, views, WTF-ever. I just don't happen to be one of those people.

As a matter of fact, I think it says a lot about a lady you'll see MY dumbass, meaning, that's a hell of a woman there.

You know, for someone who claims to be so fucking tolerant, you sure showed you can't respect the opinion of a lady.

Been that way for a long time. A great lady is a great lady

For me the only reason I have not been with an ebony provider is because there is a dearth of well reviewed ebony providers in the area where I hobby. When I have been out of town and tried to schedule with a couple of ebony providers, for some reasons the schedules did not work out.

Seriously, the one big advantage of hobbying for me is to meet ladies from different cultures who speak different languages, have different experiences to share etc. The apprehension is only in the civvie world, where the initial approach with a lady of different background may be intimidating, but definitely no apprehension in meeting any lady( Ebony or any other different culture) in the hobby that I am attracted to.

Btw, I would love to meet you if I were to travel to the chicago area

As I sit here and think about this there are some sad facts about this topic.

A lady is a lady and to be a bit crude. It is all pink on the inside and works the same.

I have found that many gentlemen 50's and older are a bit prejudice.. but funny because those are the same men that will see a black lady in this industry. just out of curiosity...

We should judge a person on how they treat us amoung many other character traits. the color of thier skin does not determine the person..

I am going to be honest and say that as a general rule I do not see black gentlemen.. that is an unfair judgement on my part.. I have several black friends (in my civi world)  1 of which who is quite handsome.. I don't see him as black I see him as a person..  My reason for this has nothing to do with skin color other then my perception of Thugs/pimps etc in this industry.. I should take a closer look at my own faults...

Those that throw stones should not live in glass houses......
Thanks for the reminder........

I'm at work and I can't get shit done, she's so hot!

I'm not avoiding any particular race.  I've just never had relations with anyone outside my own.   Now, if you were in my area I'd try to see you.  There just aren't many top tier women of color in my area.

Frankly I've found a lot of non-light skin to be very dry to the touch. One exception was a young Ugandan woman with hands like soft glove leather. She would have been a real turn-on if she wasn't always trying to Christianize me. No, she was not a provider, AFAIK, she was a temporary secretary, an elderly caregiver, and a Gospel singer/songwriter.

seeing your reviews and ratings and viewing your website, its hard to imagine any guy would have any apprehensions about seeing you - and I'm glad to see you occasionally visit DC!

I'm not a big movie watcher so those responses were all based on appearance alone.

I'm not friends with Renata, but definitely admire her. I'm a little shy and have a lot of ladies to meet!

Overall, I like a positive personality. If you find a way to turn something negative, I will run away very fast and hide. Excitement in the form of laughter, flirting (a lot of it!) and communication. Having a ton of energy is a perk for me. Being *slightly* aggressive and very assured is an aphrodisiac. Ambition, drive, passion, living for something is critical or I won't take you seriously. Think with you logical brain and balance your actions with your emotions and you will make me melt. I love a person in control of themselves. I tend to mesh well with gents who have careers in an analytical field. I enjoy talking politics and global economics. I like sincere compliments and my heart is usually grabbed by the man that doesn't have a problem telling me (whether it be physical or verbal) that he is really into me. It activates some sort've lust switch and something comes over me. Make me smile over and over with jokes or you just smiling yourself (I heart smiley guys) and I'm all yours. I don't mind watching a basketball game with you as long as you don't mind hearing me yell or curse. I heart video games. I actually had to throw my XBox away because it was too distracting bc I made too many friends on Call of Duty.  I'd rather read or listen to the radio than watch TV. I love traveling. Errr...ok this is enough.

I'm an onion, you have to peel me in layers. I'm really shy initially, though its subconscious and not on the surface, but I'm explosive once I open up. Soon enough I'll be doing the MC Hammer in front of you and sharing my most intimate feelings as well as most embarrassing moments or guilty pleasures. Intimacy in the physical unfolds the same way.

....is the variety of choices. I LOVE sexy ladies of color and do not understand why anyone would hesitate to see an ebony, asian, latina, etc. If someone needs "persuading," they are not going to provide a good experience and both parties having a good experience is what makes a session worthwhile, imo.

Ive heard other girls say this but wouldn't a reasonable solution to this
is just see Blk men with references

More than you'll ever know.

I too prefer moisturized skin to a dry touch. Same as I prefer moisturized lips. I once thought non-african americans didn't take moisturized skin as seriously, but thats proven not to be true. It really depends on the person and how they take care of their skin.

To build on this point, I was better able to identify which of the darker complected individuals had moist soft skin. Wasn't until I got my hands on a few others that I realized, it depends on how they care for themselves. Now I'm better able to identify moist white skin from dry white skin and go after my preference.

On another note, this is an eye opening moment as to why there's this shocking glow in a gents eyes when he says.."wow your skin is so soft." I never knew that one was about race, but it explains the level of shock. I hear it a lot, but didn't really read into it. Hey, can't blame you guys for thinking our skins a bit tougher. Back before the skin care industry improved their products the stuff didn't work on us as well as it did for others. We do need heavier layers of moisture admittedly, but I personally along with others I know go over and above to compensate for it so that we don't feel like leather. Also now the skin care industry does pay more attention to the varying skin types. So I wouldn't be surprised if there's a huge difference in opinion between younger generation and older on this one.

It was a post about girls not seeing black men that made me post this originally.

Sweety, a pimp will send his girls after you before he actually does these days. They know they aren't well received.

I do not judge you for your fear. I have not gone to vegas and I'm scared to go for fear of a pimp kidnapping me when I'm at the casino. He may notice me and know who I am you know? lol. As a civvie, a pimp was trying to recruit me on a vegas trip and I've heard there are a ton there. Just like you, I'm staying away to avoid pimps, but that doesn't necessarily mean Vegas is an unsafe place you know? SO! To get over this anxiety, I'm just going to give the place a fair try and screen very well to my comfort.

Think about it. I think that trusting references only for Black Men is a great start for you. If you have any friends that have better experience with figuring out black potential clients, it may help you feel more comfy if you get them involved. You can also ask for more references that you normally would. After all, it is about your comfort. Hope this helps!

Actually I prefer a beautiful  ebony woman. Something about a beautiful ebony woman that really gets my blood flowing !!! Jordan, your pictures and reviews excite me... YIKES

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would be not wanting to leave...

Absolutely stunning!


HH

Just make sure a buddy knows where you are incase you go insane from being with such a beautiful woman. There might be a need for an emergency 'extraction' if you don't return.


HH

i have often (and i mean OFTEN) had my sexual partners comment on the softness of my skin...even those who have been with me many dozens of times, still remark on a regular basis, "you are just sooo soft!" and i've always found it to be an odd compliment, because to my thinking, isn't the skin of females generally softer and more supple than the skin of males? it made me wonder what strange, rough-skinned women they had been fondling, lol. not being bisexual or even having any female friends, i cannot speak from personal experience. but previously i always took it to be a difference between genders, and nothing to do with ethnicity, but perhaps there is something to different textures of skin and of course how one cares for their skin. things that make you go hmm!

And the only reason that I haven't hobbied with one is time and opportunity.  I have a tight schedule and often have a tight geographic restriction, which can limit my selection.  

I have four saved in my favorites (1 in Cali and 3 in DC) that I am planning on meeting soon.   Ms. Jordan, you are one of them.

For those that have not partaken, I encourage you to take advantage of one the true benefits of the hobby: Variety!!

When I first began this adventure we call a hobby, one of the providers that was at the very top of my want to see list was ebony. She may well be the most beautiful woman I have ever been with..........period!!!        I have seen her many times, more than any other provider.  I consider her to be one of my best hobby friends. More recently, I have had the most mind blowing experience of my hobby life with a different ebony provider. She is totally amazing and I also consider her to be a good hobby friend. Although she is 1000 miles away and I have seen her only once, we keep in contact frequently. Finally, more recently I had one date with another drop dead gorgeous ebony provider on the east coast. And it was also spectacular.            BTW I am absolutely white, and my feeling is color makes no difference. I would love to see you if our paths ever cross.

Your not a man until u split a black oak!!!!    lol
I love seeing my white cock sliding in and out of a beautiful black women!!!

But it is not skin tone, it is the sheer beauty of this woman.  Looking at these pictures, I put myself into them - my trembling white hand reaching out to caress those luscious mocha breast.  I see my pink tongue reaching out to gently touch those beautiful well formed nipples.  Oh my..  I feel a bulge in my pants.

I see my tongue gently touching that brown skin down to the belly.  i slide my hand under those round, lovely hips.  It fills my hand.  I gently squeeze it.  Oh my...  I continue down from her belly until I hear a faint moan, a slight move, and an almost undetectable scent of... Oh my.

Jordan - I am in Chicago too and must admit I am afraid - I am very afraid...  

For me even though this is P4P I worry more that you would not want to see me, part of GFE is forgetting your paying and that this is like a real date. Secondly I would not trust my own motives for wanting to be with an Ebony provider. I checked your website and find you attractive, but to me seeing you only because your Ebony is as bad as not seeing you because your Ebony. I need to know in my mind it was only because your an attractive lady. One of the nice things about this board is I have been impressed with the thoughts of ladies without being aware of anything physical about them until I finally get around to the web site. That to me is the best forming an opinion on you because of what and how you say things, not how attractive I find you. If I enjoy what your saying then I would worry less about cultural differences.

I have to say I agree with this. When I get emails saying, "Oh I just love black women...." I'm far from impressed. I am attracted to a man that looks for personality and character first. That being said and I hope it doesn't offend anyone....but this has actually become a huge pet peeve. I put a nice amount of content on my site, written 100% by myself, for the gent that wants exposure to my personality. After all, I'm after chemistry in addition to physically pleasing you.  

Thank you for mentioning this. I was biting my tongue not to lol.

I hate to say this, and I am ashamed of this but I have never seen an ebony provider. I am physically very attracted to them but have never booked one. The shameful fact is I get nervous if I am alone with a person on African descent that I don't know or if there is more of them in the group I am in then any other race. I am very ashamed of this, thus the alias.

Let me explain, I know in my head there is very little biological differences, between the races. I also know that people are people regardless of skin color. I have never committed any sort of hate act, and try not to discriminate. I have never been disrespectful in any way because of race. In fact because of the fact of my fears I go out of my way to make sure I am not being biased. I have black friends. Despite of this I have a fear of people of African descent that I do not know. Lets be clear it is a fear not a hatred or even a dislike.

You see my father is a bit of a racist and shared his feelings with me. Add that to the fact that I was raised in an a white/Hispanic small town, the stage was set. My first real experience with people of African descent was extremely negative in the worse way programmed me in a bad way. A programming I am trying to undo as I know it is faulty. I don't have this issue with other races just blacks. It isn't a cultural thing with me, it is a "I am fucked up in the head" thing.

I am extremely interested in being with an ebony lady, for a few reasons. First, I find them hot. Second I think it will help me get over my issues. Third, I know that people are people even if I am stupid in this way. But it scares me too. If I could find a well reviewed, well known ebony lady, that I found attractive, I may take the plunge. I don't know what would make me comfortable about the meeting in private other then a short of meeting with her in a public place for a while first, to get to know her.

I have a question for you, if a potential client had my issue, would you want to see him? Would you want him to be honest about how screwed up he is? Would you be understanding?

I was not going to answer out of shame of the truth. I changed my mind though as part of me needed to put it out there as I doubt I am the only one with a bit of fear.

You'll get over it. You can always tell her she's the first ebony you've contacted and she should understand. Especially being a provider. I have another of these gents coming up and to ease the comfort we talked by phone briefly. Now he's extremely confident in his decision and has less anxiety and I can't wait to have my way with him. I have to hold it down for the sisters! lol

Don't share the specifics about whats caused your anxiety until after you meet. You want to be sure that you are comfy with her knowing this. You may hit it off so well that you forget to even share it with her.

FWIW I do almost half my hobbying outside of this country.

I will agree skin color doesn't really mean that much, but there are definitely differences, but I consider that a good thing. After all wouldn't life be boring if we were all the same?

It is ironic. Now that you mention it, color means very little in many countries. Most of South America could care less what color you are. The one exception to that is it seems like many asians living in South America don't like chocolate, I am apparently the exception that proves the rule, with the added benefit that many of the ebony ladies are surprised that I am interested in them and go just one little step further in ensuring I enjoy myself, that is until and unless they become a "novia" and then all bets are off. lol

I gotta say I've had those very reasons for being with an ebony provider.  I thought the differences would be exciting.  And I've enjoyed them, but found the differences weren't there.  So pretty is pretty, and if you click you click.  I like variety so I've tried "other" races as well which is fun but I've found the bigest differences come from cultural difference(asian, eastern, south american, etc...) not skin color.  Ebony ladies I've seen grew up in USA, and have mostly same experiences I've had, communication was no problem.  When English is second laguage there are much bigger issues.
By the way, you've been on my radar for a while.  The fact that you are well spoken in this post bumped you up the list!  Can't wait....

I would love to see an ebony provider, I've never experienced that in my entire life. IMO, if a hobbyist truly wants it, they're going to take that step to make the date. I hope I get there some day.
If they're having issues with ethnicity then it wouldn't work comfortably anyway. The bottom line is, mutual chemistry rules, and any added benefit to either participant based on particulars like ethnicity is just a bonus.

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