But I sure do a lot of crossing nutty hookers off my to do list and when I tell them so, they go berserk. You know what I am saying 
Providers will make choices on who to see based on a number of variables. If you (generally speaking) are refused service, how does it make you feel?
And if you ask why, do you really want the truth or are you just pushing for a heated exchanged where you can take out your ego crush by insulting the lady in question?
I will not meet anyone that I feel I cannot provide what they are looking for etc.etc,. I have given the truth and it has backfired ( on about 70% of the cases}. I now lie.
just like you guys dont want to see some providers for what ever reasons... providers are also humans and people... they also can have reasons or a vibe that says, we should not meet..
maybe she felt you guys would not connect somehow, and it would result in a less than stellar visit or review.
Maybe she only sees guys between certain ages, or over or younger a certain age..
Maybe you are the ethnicity she does not prefer.
Maybe you are a big guy
Maybe you did not get a glowing reference?
many reasons...
You can ask her, but be ready for the answer.
You just need to say, ok, fair enough, thanks for telling me before i wasted my $$
Then find a provider who will see you and rock your world!
I have turned down guys because based on their reviews, they don't even LIKE bbws! they put them down and rate them awful! So why see us? dumb!
If i see this, I wont see him. why see a guy who will say mean things? doesn't like my type? no thanks!
I have turned down guys who call me up sounding like a gangster, too young, ET
I would rather, she not see me than have no choice but to see anyone and everyone who walks in through that door...
Whatever the reason might be....doesn't matter..
Now, if everyone you contact doesn't want to see you, then you got problem...
Out of 4-5 girls that I contact, typically 1 doesn't want to see me...
Either you talked like an uneducated person or were disrespectful, came across as a game player, or I do not feel we would have a good time together. A few times I said no to guys who I feel give many horrid (unfair) reviews for stupid reasons (and yes I told them the such). Now why in the world would I want to see guys with 15 plus reviews giving girls less than a 4 when she gave you everything that tends to be expected? Makes me consider that you are not a nice guy to be with.
If I was a guy I would be thankful that I didn't waste my money on what probably may not be the good time I'd like. If a gal told me she thought I was a game player or uneducated (ghetto texting)/rude... I think I would take the time (in the future) in how I speak to people and try to do better.
I think the most frequent reason why guys are denied is the language/texting they use. Thug talk is not sexy at all.
Mainly I just say I am not interesting in meeting. Ever so often if pushed I will tell them the reason. Normally that is when they try to change the behavior or will argue.
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I had a reply last month that I was not up to her "standards"???? WTF. I'm whitelisted etc.. I think she is at war with one of thee ladies I've seen.
Like when you were in school an asked for a date an she said your not my type.
That too is very possible. There is a local provider who I refuse to go behind if you will. It seems every client of hers I see, all of a sudden gives me shit after, and I don't need it. Why this dumb hooker thinks someone more than twice her rate, half her age, and a 10th of her volume is a threat, is beyond me, but it is evident the bitch is crazy.
there was a crazy provider here, who refused to see guys i had seen and refused to provide me references!
she was a bbw provider but had some weird paranoia issues, and thought i had it in for her? I told her to put down the glass dick and she would be able to think clearly again lol
No, I will give the bitch a reference, but that's it. I won't ask her for one, though. She will fk anything with a pulse and 200 bucks, though she claims her rate is 3 lol.
reference, and my experience with a few guys, I would call her, then a few hrs later they cancelled. Turned out she was calling them, and offering them lower to see her instead of me, she told lies about me to them, about me writing her bad reviews (lie) and many other things.
so I said no I will never accept her as a reference! she was crazy!
We probably weren't going to be compatible anyways, so it's no big deal.
No harm, no foul.
And if you ask why, do you really want the truth or are you just pushing for a heated exchanged where you can take out your ego crush by insulting the lady in question?
I will not meet anyone that I feel I cannot provide what they are looking for etc.etc,. I have given the truth and it has backfired ( on about 70% of the cases}. I now lie.
From what WOTW was saying about response times, seems as if you tell a guy flat out you don't want to see him, you get a shit load of hate mail. I love the ones where they point out how I am a "stupid whore" bwahhaha. Whore maybe, but stupid? Well, I guess not, because I was smart enough to not see your dumb ass. Yes, they get annoyed when you actually try to save them money! WTF! If I know I am not going to please you, why not go with a girl that will? I am always happy to refer one to you.
I am not lying or sugar coating shit. If you get your feelings hurt, I guess you should have known better than to contact me in the first place lol. Once you are my client, you will be treated like a king. Before then, I don't owe you shit. I will however operate with professionalism, respond quickly to those who are not ignorant, and do my best to accommodate you, but there are things I will NOT do, for anyone.
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The rest of the excuses that are listed here are total and complete bullshit.
When the rent, car payment or grocery bills are due...they'll see whoever emails them.
If they have enough of their months expenses covered...most would rather go and play with their friends than suck some cock.
Enough with the asinine bullshit ladies.
Frankly I haven't had a hooker tell me that my money wasn't green enough for her. But I suspect one day I'll get one that had escalade see her before me and give her enough to cover her months expenses (and she had to join the putz for dinner OTC LOL)...hence she doesn't need to see me, or any john for another month till the car payment is due again.
Varibles...only one toots. It's called money!! Anything else you hookers want to call it is simply nonsense.
And if you ask why, do you really want the truth or are you just pushing for a heated exchanged where you can take out your ego crush by insulting the lady in question?
I will not meet anyone that I feel I cannot provide what they are looking for etc.etc,. I have given the truth and it has backfired ( on about 70% of the cases}. I now lie.
I have been rejected appointments, by hookers because they were too afraid that I will give them bad review or a review too honest - too honest to their taste...
Your post assumes that all of the providers are doing this full time. A lot of them do have full time jobs and do this only to supplement their income.. So sometimes paying the next bill is not a motivating factor.
I know this gal I really wanted to see, and contacted her. She told me not to review her and if I agreed to that, I was more than welcome to see her. I respectfully declined because I don't negotiate the reviews I write or scores I give..
Yep, damn skippy. You can always tell which ones do NOT need money every week or even every month from clients. I would not say that is always a bad thing, though. Many women cherry pick clients who only give 9s and 10s, so they are assured the same scores. Many don't see certain races, work certain hours, no outcalls, no weekends, etc. Even if I were totally broke, there are still things I would never do for that rate. Now, offer me a million, and watch lol. I will do most anything besides incest, children, and animals!
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The hookers will see johns when they need money. It's not rocket science. And most only see enough to cover their monthly nut (pun intended). So for some john to get bent out of shape that a hooker isn't available is stupid. She's made her monthly nut...no need to suck a dick.
The downside to that mentality is that most never accumulate enough to buy a Starbucks. And then the routine starts all over again the next month. And so on.
As far as hookers doing this part time...few if any. But if Curly wants to believe otherwise...no problem. They are here making their money...when they get out they can work a civvy job. Rarely do the two go hand in hand.
Gambler said that a million bucks is not that much. I agree with him. As well as many others. But for those who don't have a pot to piss in...it's a lot.
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No, you fool! A million is not a lot if you plan to retire on the shit, but for ONE act, damn right. Most everyone I know does this only part time...as in knowing them personally. I am sure there are many who do have to suck 10-20 d*cks a week, but it is what it is lol. I will concede that many providers have very little business sense as far as retention of clients, reaching equilibrium with rates, and investing, which is sad.
A true whore!
But then again, everyone has their price!
That if she can't give what the guy what he wants she passes on the almighty dollar? And that she would see anything that waves a few greenbacks in her general directions if her mortgage was due?
There are plenty of others to choose from. It is best to see someone who is interested in seeing you where the chemistry is right. Hobbyists gets to pick and choose, providers should be able to do the same. There are some providers I know who will not see a guy unless he sends a picture. Others might decline after seeing references about what the guy is like or reading his reviews.
And if you ask why, do you really want the truth or are you just pushing for a heated exchanged where you can take out your ego crush by insulting the lady in question?
I will not meet anyone that I feel I cannot provide what they are looking for etc.etc,. I have given the truth and it has backfired ( on about 70% of the cases}. I now lie.
But I sure do a lot of crossing nutty hookers off my to do list and when I tell them so, they go berserk. You know what I am saying
"Does it sting"? A little bit, but not much.
I make it a practice that there is communication between me and the provider 1) before our date and 2) after our date because 1) I don't like surprises and 2) for public relations purposes/"good client."
I've had a few "no shows," and in those cases I didn't know the real reason I was cancelled/refused. Maybe it was second thoughts about my profile where my references didn't get back to her, maybe something came up, who knows.
However, I did have a situation where I had set up a date and had to cancel for a legitimate reason, my car was in the shop and wasn't sure when it would be out, so I cancelled and communicated to the provider with ample time.
Well, I tried to set up another date and she refused, saying that she didn't like the "tone" of my emails. Whatever. A bullshit reason, basically. Except in limited instances, emails don't have "tone." Either the receiver is psychologically projecting or seeking a pretext. This is from a person that has never met me.
I have several references, and they all seemed pleased and are willing to repeat, so in this one instance, I would say the provider is a primadonna or unbalanced.
Any thoughts?
but I can read the way they write, and some guys DO come off like asses even thru the written word! lol
I have had guys who have had a "tone" on the phone and i turn them down..
like a condescending i hate women tone but have to do this to get off tone lo
There's an obvious difference between email and the telephone, with more of a probablity of "tone" with the telephone, but even then, it's tricky.
Unless the person is saying something that's outright disgusting/objectionable, I don't see much of a reason for refusal. Maybe they've got an edgier sense of humor.
And who is to say that maybe the person communicating is having a bad day?
When I read reveiws of providers, I look at overall reviews, not isolated reviews.
In fact, one of my favorite providers has some reviews bitching that she couldn't predict to the minute when her period was and that the window cleaner showed up to her incall: would a reasonable hobbyist hold that against her, especially when overall and in totality she's got great reviews?
And this other provider I'm referring to that didn't like my email "tone," give me a break..
Same way they make a conscious choice not to see a lady who's "tone" on a fk board does not resonate with with them. Both are the typed word.
Here is what I think...
It had nothing to do with your tone, but she used that as an excuse not to see you again. If you canceled and did not bother giving her something for the money she spent on a hotel, drinks, etc. why would she want to book you again? I don't mean to sound condescending in 'tone' lol, but I don't book with anyone again who cancels without a deposit.
If I go out and spend money for a date, your reasons for having to cancel don't give me that money back. Add to that, I lost that day for someone who might have actually followed through. If a guy does not have the common decency to make it up to me, I want nothing to do with him. I always offer a discount or more time, if I have to cancel, which is very rare. If a guy can't do the same for me, he has proven he really could not care less that I am out of pocket.
She didn't spend any money, it was an outcall.
However, she may have had to re-arrange her schedule.
I would have just told you flat out, I was not seeing you without a deposit because you canceled before costing me time and money. Yes, shit happens, but when it happens on my end I make it up to the guy even though he actually SAVED money by NOT seeing me that day.
Well, she didn't offer any valid explanations.
Other than the pretext that she didn't like my tone in my emails.
Ridiculous.
Whatever.
Obviously she's got a dedicated clientele and can afford to refuse on such a shallow reason, meanwhile I have a pool of providers that are willing and able to visit, as well as prospectives that rely on my references, so the "loss" is minimal.
Sometimes it is just that simple.
had it happen once. It stung.
looking back to providers who " refused" to see me for a first appontment. All just did not respond to initial requests.there was no communication from them so no reasons why service was refused.It didnt really bother me because I think I was reaching to book with them. they were not my type or 2nd choice. Since then I've had 100% success.(with the last few)
And if you ask why, do you really want the truth or are you just pushing for a heated exchanged where you can take out your ego crush by insulting the lady in question?
I will not meet anyone that I feel I cannot provide what they are looking for etc.etc,. I have given the truth and it has backfired ( on about 70% of the cases}. I now lie.