Blue eyed red hair sexy... tempting.  I've always had that fantasy about professor-student scenario ... but quite risky. What will you do?

I give her pop quiz!

Role play with a provider or SO. Or when you pay for her dinner, offer to pay for her future shrink. It never works out. Unless of course you were the nobel prize winner for NO. (The true hero of Viagra. Go Bruins!)

Not necessarily true, I ended up marrying my econ prof., stayed married for 29 years until she passed away.

Former student?
Need more info.

Is she still attending the school where you teach?
Can she ever get into one of your classes in the future?

Is she already pregnant with your child?

Will netmichelle meet me soon?

his former student when he was in the early 30s and she in her early to mid 20s.  No one from that major university objected to it.  He got tenure a few years after that.

I couldn't find a blurb about it, but I do remember it was embarrasing for UCLA at the time, and when he won the Nobel, they squashed it.

http://www.arc2.ucla.edu/Medicine_magazine/Progress_page19.htm

I am firmly against it. Not in this culture and country. Young adults are very impressionable and respond to authority figures. You are treading through dangerous waters. I don't think a man can understand the power a teacher has over a young woman. She cannot possibly know her real feelings, they are clouded by your power over her. There are plenty of women out there. Look elsewhere.

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Following is a list of UC Nobel Prize winners as of October 1998:

Berkeley

* Ernest O. Lawrence, 1939 -- physics, died August 1958
* John H. Northrop, 1946 -- chemistry, died July 1987
* Wendell M. Stanley, 1946 -- chemistry, died June 1971
* William F. Giauque, 1949 -- chemistry, died March 1982
* Edwin M. McMillan, 1951 -- chemistry, died 1991
* Glenn T. Seaborg, 1951 -- chemistry
* Emilio G. Segre, 1959 -- physics, died 1989
* Owen Chamberlain, 1959 -- physics
* Donald A. Glaser, 1960 -- physics
* Melvin Calvin, 1961 -- chemistry, died 1/8/97
* Charles H. Townes, 1964 -- physics
* Luis W. Alvarez, 1968 -- physics, died 1988
* Czeslaw Milosz, 1980 -- literature
* Gerard Debreu, 1983 -- economics
* Yuan T. Lee, 1986 -- chemistry
* John C. Harsanyi, 1994 -- economics

Irvine

* Frederick Reines, 1995 -- physics, died 8/26/98
* F. Sherwood Rowland, 1995 -- chemistry

Los Angeles

* Willard F. Libby, 1960 -- chemistry, died 1980
* Julian Schwinger, 1965 -- physics, died 1994
* Donald J. Cram, 1987 -- chemistry
* Paul D. Boyer, 1997 -- chemistry
* Louis J. Ignarro, 1998 -- physiology or medicine

San Diego

* Francis H. C. Crick, 1962 -- physiology or medicine
* Maria Goeppert-Mayer, 1963 -- physics, died 1972
* Robert W. Holley, 1968 -- physiology or medicine, died 1993
* Hannes Alfven, 1970 -- physics, died April 1995
* George E. Palade, 1974 -- physiology or medicine
* Renato Dulbecco, 1975 -- physiology or medicine
* Roger Guillenmin, 1977 -- physiology or medicine

San Francisco

* J. Michael Bishop, 1989 -- physiology or medicine
* Harold E. Varmus, 1989 -- physiology or medicine
* Stanley B. Prusiner, 1997 -- physiology or medicine

Santa Barbara

* Walter Kohn, 1998  Chemistry




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That's the longest URL in the world!

Yep still in the same school .. she graduates next summer.

No.

Sure, Netmichelle should see you

Tough call.

If there is absolutely no chance of you having  power over her or her grades, like for instance she isn't in your department and you are chair of the dept, then you may be able to get away with it for a year.

Is she worth waiting till next summer?

TET

Better wait for her to graduate.

Just talk to her and tell her what we all just discussed and find out if she wants to wait too.


Nothing wrong in talking about it with her.

I think it's just for good time cuz she plans to go out of the country ... don't know.

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It is hard to link URLs on my webphone. : )

Yeah, I guess in this country, those relationships are taboo ... not in Europe though. I wish I was in liberal Europe.

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Reon't worry, I'll get him soon. I just got back home!

Said the spider to the fly.

THEN the stiletto heel rocketed toward the spider!

I think being trapped in a web may be similar to flying shibari.

I believe a neutral city AWAY from the west coast fault lines may be necessary.


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I have to think your college/university would have "administered" training to faculty about the significant potential problems.  Rather than ask us, ask your dean.

When I went to college the teacher dating a student currently attending that college would have been fired.  However that was long ago in a land far far away.

I don't get the conflict if she is no longer your student.  Is she still a student at the institution where you teach?  If so, the answer is easy--no.  If she has graduated or otherwise moved on and is of the age of majority, I don't see the problem.

It will be the best sex you ever had. You can do things with her and not feel like your a taste tester for GoodYear. When a chick into you she will go the extra mile. Nothing risky about it. Pizza and a bottle of 151.

as did her Professor father

Tell her that you are both flattered and exhilarated by her offer.

Then explain that you have a responsibility to the University (Institute, whatever..), your profession, and have a profound respect for the institution of education in this country that doesn't allow you to take her offer, despite your natural male response to such an offer.

Perhaps once her "career" at the school is over and the potential conflict goes away, things would be different.  At this point, a little humility wouldn't hurt, such as, "I doubt that a bright attractive woman like you would still be interested in dinner with old man at that point."

You preserve your career and professional integrity, and she knows that the door is open.  Some women may regard your dedication as sexy.  Others get pissed at any form of rejection.  

In any case, you are doing the right thing, telling the truth, and leaving the door open. The problem then becomes managing your expectations - I suggest forgetting about it unless she shows up after she grads.

Last thought, if she received low marks in your class, stay away for sure.  

"well...uh...no teacher...
but this bulging magic marker in my pants is taking away from my studies.


Booiiinnnnggggg!


Cheers!

a serious question, though I don't know why I should assume a question with all kinds of legal ramifications being posted here is really serious.  If you really are hoping for legal advice, post the question on the Legal Board.  But be aware that the "you get what you pay for" principle may apply.

If she is a former student and not affiliated with the school you are with, then I see no viable reason not to, unless there is something else you have not shared. You also stated it was dinner and did not expand on whether she indicated or hinted that there was more to it than that, so it does not appear to me to be a problem. Good luck and go with what you feel is right.

xoxo

Katt

I'd bang her in a heartbeat. When I was a T.A. in college (many many years ago), the undergrad students were always fair game. I have come to understand that such behavior is not "p.c." today. But as long as she is your "former" student, I say "go for it" and don't look back!

Re:And by the way, I've already won the Nobel prize in my field

An actual Nobel prize?  Or its equivelent?

You are very wrong. It's not the Dean who deals with that. Human Resources have all the info about the legal ramifications. I already attended their seminars on sexual harrassment etc. The Dean has more important things to do that ask him about dating students.

I have heard of several cases of professors marrying graduate students. What I am unsure of is who first took the initiative.  It would be interesting to see reponses from both sides.  Any autobiographies out there?