hi guys!

sorry I have been MIA :P

so...I spend time sitting and talking before moving over to the table, and its something I really enjoy about my job. One reason I do that is to help the gentleman feel at ease - if he's about to be touched all over by me, I would think that he'd want to get a little sense of who I am beyond a picture on the internet first. Another reason that I do this is that many of my clients very much want to talk... its part of the experience. In that way, its similar to spending an hour in the VIP room at an upscale strip club.

Beautiful woman, flirtation, intelligent conversation, many opportunities to glance down her shirt and no guilt about it. Sometimes we may talk for thirty, forty-five minutes sometimes, maybe even the whole session. Sometimes we shower together.

All of this is part of the fantasy and the pleasure. Which is to say, it's what some clients are paying for. Others are paying for a damn good massage with some sensuality mixed in. Still others are paying for damn fine sexuality with some massage and conversation mixed in. To me, its all part of a single experience and no one form of pleasure is less valuable than any other to me.

None of my clients have ever brought this up as a point of frustration with me (but then again, I'm also pretty spacious with time for the most part, and I try to tune into cues about when a fella is ready to head into the shower or over to the table). But I received a email and a comment in it was that non-touching time should not count in one's time (nor should anything else, like showering, etc.). I'm curious what others think about this?

And if it doesn't count, is it on the masseuse to monitor the amount of time that her clients spend in the shower and how much time they spend talking and sipping tea? It's been said before, of course, that in a spa-massage or other therapeutic massage worlds, an hour massage is actually 50 minutes from start to finish to help account for cleaning the room, etc., and its also been pointed out that FBSM is a vastly different world on many levels from therapeutic massage.

It's also been said before that masseuses should not book any less than 30 minutes apart. Beyond that, what are your thoughts? Is this an issue that's about time being valued by both parties, or something else?

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But during a massage, I like to just focus in on the sensation, and conversation can interfer with that.

A good FBSM starts with the theraputic and slowly drifts into the sensual culminating in a fiery ending.  (And yes, that is spelled correctly. Why it isn't firey, I'll never understand.)

The best time for chit-chat is after the orgasm has subsided.  If there is a time for round two, it is a nice way to lead in.

As always, time marches on.  That's why I like long sessions.

As far as unpaid time goes, I never assume it but if offered, I accept it graciously in the spirit it is given.

but there is some natural conversation that should happen such as asking what my preference is for type of massage and anything else that would add to my enjoyment of the experience or to the atmosphere.  Of course, this can all happen while you begin the massage, etc.  As for the clock, I'm paying for your time and the clock begins when I arrive and stops when I leave.  Assuming that you haven't chatted away half the time, anyone who complains about the clock probably isn't worth your time... just saying.

To be safe, I'd say it's better to assume that a newer client is looking for more touch and less chit chat. You can more easily learn who are the chatty Cathy's than the other way around.

I am less chatty and more action in general (hence my bias here). However it is my belief we  see escort and FBSM provides for a more physical reason - I freely admit I could be wrong.

Again though, I think it is safer to assume less chat. I think gents are less likely to complain about too little talk, and it's always easy to talk more. It can be awkward for some guys to redirect things to the sexual, which may be why he's seeing you in the first place.

Maybe a little chat as you start the massage... During this time gauge if they're chatty or not. Subsequent sessions are easier yet.

Also, it is easy in initial emails and talk to convey information about shower time and for them to let you know about talking during a session. Nothing illegal going on here

My thoughts.

when I get a haircut, massage, etc. If I do any talking, it's mostly at the end, and the lady is talking to me to get me to return. As far as the time that that guy wants to pay for, if he books for an hour, then he can have what we wants in that hour. If it's a shower or two, then it's on his dime. If he doesn't want to pay for it, then he doesn't get one in that hour. If he doesn't want you to talk, then he needs to stop talking to you and get to the table.

This is a no-no for me. Being chatty and massage are counter intuitive to the moment. If a lady wants to talk off the clock and I have time, then let's do that. She has to monitor her schedule and like Fish said, I am appreciative if its given, but I won't take it for granted. In fact, it's a good thing to tip in such situations even if the lady doesn't expect it. One of my favorite FBSM providers asked me to massage her once and gave excellent instruction about what she wanted. It almost turned into a complete session as I massaged her pubs. She got quite wet and I took it to the next level if you catch my drift. She was so spent after that, when her next call came in, she cancelled and asked me to stay on after she showered. She did so, and returned with some wine. What fun!

Not professionally anymore and no happy endings . The people I get on the table are either talkers or non-talkers which I gauge out. If they like to talk I'll tell them the army foursome story or how my grandad used to catch catfish using his fingers as bait. If not I STFU.

Your situation however has a sexual component so some level of chit chat is needed to make both parties comfortable. Your time is what they're buying regardless of what you do in that time.

Unless you start hearing this complaint more, I would take it as an isolated event. Trust your instincts. If you do continue to hear it, you may have to clip your string chatty cathy.

I have 2 Favorite ladies who are FBSM practioners.  
The first lady is generous with her time & it's not unusual to spend 10-15 minutes before heading to the massage table. Sometimes we chat a bit during the massage but it's hard to talk if she's pressing hard.  I think chatting during should be curtailed.  A joint shower is deducted from the time if it's requested.  It's not unusual to spend 5-10 minutes chatting after.  So a hour appt takes about 1.5 hour.  That's apparently OK with her.

I can not be objective about the other because she's an ATF & also has a full menu, at least for me.  We have long since crossed the line into friendship, even if it is compensated time.  I'll just say that a 2 hour appointment can run to 4 hours...  I was actually there for close to 3.5 hours today.  She is not reviewed here, is UTR...  only books one client per day, if that.      

ALL providers, need to run their business & manage the time without seeming like they are clock watching.  One lady...  neither of us could see "her clock" but after many visits, I saw 2 smaller clocks that she could see without getting up.  Others use music tracks or other cues to help manage time.  IF you are going to do this as a business, you must decide how much time each appointment gets & be sure to stay within it.

Best Wishes,
skb

I make an appointment for a specific time and have ideas about how I want to spend that time. If it doesn't happen the way I plan, then that's my fault if I don't make my wishes known WHILE I"M THERE. If I make an appointment for a massage from 3:00-4:00 and I spend the time showering and chatting and sipping tea, then whose fault is that?

As for convo, I enjoy getting to know the person who is getting to know my body but I also love to drift out of the room when the massage is really good. A good therapist learns how to read clients and knows when they are lost in the ozone and when they are ok to talk.

Five replies in a few minutes, and all are short and angry? Sorry your day ain't goin' so great.
Hope it gets better for you. (serious, no sarcasm!)

HalfHour

All I do every day , day in, and day out is ask questions, and try to determine if the answers were lies or not.I enjoy my job but sometimes it is hard on me, and very exhausting.
It might sound like easy fun to some of you, but it takes a lot of determination and insight, to be amazingly correct at  analyzing  what I hear is truth or lie.
I understand how someone in another line of work would enjoy chatting with a beautiful woman. If I had a different job, I might feel the same.
I prefer to walk in the door and be passionately kissed and caressed until we fall on the bed together.
A little chit chat is OK, when I am trying to catch my breath between rounds, and certainly welcomed when I am putting my suit and trench coat back on.
To answer your main question, I am meticulous with time. My time starts when I walk in the door and ends when I walk out before my hour is up.
If everything went well I should be leaving at minute 59.
Until we meet again.xoxo

regardless of how the time is spent. If the client wants less time spent on chatting and more on touching, he needs to let that be known, not bitch about it afterward.

If you decide to go overtime because of extended chatting up front, then its your option but there should be no necessary expectation for it.

If you want to chit chat, do it on your own time.
Some providers have yet to figure this out. Some guys will want to get right down to business and although you may think they are enjoying your talking, they may not.
I am not saying all guys, because there are probably some lonely guys that do want to talk.

If there is time left over after the finale, then chit chat. Of course, I will be getting dressed. Please hand me my shoes

Yelp. They should be concerned about getting the guy pops in first.

While I love talking to sexy women I can get that for free. And as because of health reasons it can take a long time for me to cum, if I spend to much time talking in the beginning talking I may not finish. I want to get started right away and talk after. Don't get me wrong I enjoy the chitchat but what I am paying for is the physical part, and if there is time left , then I want to talk. I also enjoy talking during a FBSM, and sometimes during sex but many guys don't. And I consider the clock started when I show up and ends when the time I booked runs. Any shower time or chitchat time that I spend counts unless she says otherwise. If the lady wants to give me free chitchat or shower time great but it is never expected or asked for. If time runs over because of me I pay her for it. It has only happened once because I wanted to extend and she had the time. I keep track of the time during the session as to not go over my time.