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I DONT GET YOU!!!!
ZoePiers See my TER Reviews 2940 reads
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1 / 76

In almost every business of service tipping is a form of appreciation.Unless I am wrong, in this business gentlemen seems to forget to realize that the same aspect is applicable to providers.

Gentlemen, should you tip, would you tip, have you tipped  

Thank you WB;)


-- Modified on 3/23/2014 1:36:42 PM

MikeShanahan 1257 reads
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2 / 76

Posted By: ZoePiers
In almost every business of service tipping is a form of appreciation.Unless I am wrong, in this business gentlemen seems to forget to realize that the same aspect is tipping is applicable to providers.  
   
 Gentlemen, should you tip, would you tip, have you tipped    
   
 Thank you WB;)

-- Modified on 3/23/2014 12:37:49 PM

1192967 45 Reviews 1664 reads
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3 / 76
bonordonor 1200 reads
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4 / 76

tips are for employees. Employers and business owners don't get tips, since they get the profits. In your business, you set the price, the "tip" is if your service is good, you'll earn a repeat customer.

-- Modified on 3/23/2014 4:07:57 PM

DGeo000 7 Reviews 1180 reads
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5 / 76

But Usually I end up tipping at the end also.

Dr Who revived 1178 reads
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6 / 76

Unless the waitress doesn't pay enough attention to my coffee cup.  Or the bacon comes floppy (I like it crisp and always order it that way).

Let me know which restaurant you're serving at and next time I'm there I'll specifically ask for you.  Usually I tip 20% of the total check...but if you'll make sure my coffee is hot all the time I'll go up to 25% just for you  ;)

OSP 26 Reviews 1269 reads
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7 / 76

.and then it became expected. I stopped. Then I saw some girls who deserved a tip........but alas, the past haunted me.

I've given coin, books, cards, repeat visits, tuition, apt expenses, jewelry.........oh hell stop me por favor

ZoePiers See my TER Reviews 1621 reads
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8 / 76

Recently a gentleman tipped me 30%, its was a FIRST for me from this board...

Was a good surprise this morning..

Dr Who revived 1689 reads
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9 / 76

So let's see...if you worked a full 40 hour week (for a year) at your asking price (AD ALERT) of $ 1k (which I doubt you get all that often...but we'll pretend it's set in stone for this exercise)...you'd gross $ 2M a year.

I'll bet you (no bitcoins either) that the jackass who "tipped you" $ 300 makes a fraction of $ 2M a year...a VERY small fraction of that.

Oh well....a fool and his money  LOL

BTW you've done much better threADs than this...you're slipping  ;)

So what restaurant will you be serving at...I'll still pony up that 20-25% I posted above.  But the damn coffee better stay hot  :D
Posted By: ZoePiers
Recently a gentleman tipped me 30%, its was a FIRST for me from this board...  
   
 Was a good surprise this morning..

ZoePiers See my TER Reviews 1356 reads
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10 / 76

The kindness of tipping and the 30% was a FIRST for me and thats why it caught my attention. I don't understand why you are comparing a simple form of appreciation that is never expected to "Income Levels" and why my rate is a reference point.  

I was quite surprised because it rarely happens..

ZoePiers See my TER Reviews 1399 reads
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11 / 76

Thank you to the GREATEST TER TIPPER.

On behalf of all providers in the world "WE" wish more (hobbysits-gentelmen) were like you- besides your gentleness, a good tipper who appreciates the fact that, what we offer is a service from the deepest, purest parts of our souls.  

Married, or single, lonely or happy, a hobbysit or not....what would you do without providers..

.....I'd sleep on it..

Zoe

-- Modified on 3/23/2014 2:35:40 PM

Tobi Telford See my TER Reviews 1263 reads
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12 / 76

So it's a good thing I don't count on gratuities or I'd be broke.

1192967 45 Reviews 1290 reads
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13 / 76

Unless I am wrong, in this business gentlemen seems to forget to realize that the same aspect is applicable to providers."

The statement above quoted from your OP makes it sound as if you do expect a tip. That's how I understood it.

ZoePiers See my TER Reviews 1632 reads
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14 / 76

In a question I would ask, In this business is tipping a normal thing to do and why is it rare. As in any act of service?  

It was a first for me and quite frankly a good surprise.

TriFitness 4 Reviews 1457 reads
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15 / 76

Tipping, to me, depends on the experience and if I seen the lady before. If it is a first time visit, I rarely tip. Any visit after that I typically know what to expect and tip accordingly.

2labman 26 Reviews 1677 reads
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16 / 76

I don't tip my regular, I buy her presents.  She'd probably like the money more, but that's too impersonal.  I know she's not my girl friend in RL, but I want to do something for her that she might not do for herself since she consistently puts up with me, seemingly happily.

I often tip young, less experienced providers who I think probably need the money, partially as a reminder that seeing older guys maybe isn't so bad.  I'm old enough to be her father or grandfather, maybe I'm assuaging my perv-ometer.

I sometimes tip older providers the first time I see them, but not usually for subsequent sessions.  Don't know why not, I wouldn't be seeing them again if I didn't like them the first time and the second time is usually better, at least for me.

Strange and inconsistent, admittedly.

Cosette 1427 reads
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17 / 76

I don't tip my therapist. Nor most professionals I come in contact with.  

I'd like to be considered more on that scale.

TalkToTrees 1053 reads
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18 / 76

I thought tips were already factored in when setting the rates?
I mean, we (hobbyists) aren't supposed to be discussing rates before, during and after the date.  

So, why are we tipping?  

The simple fact that we are there paying for your services because we passed your screening process and took the time to schedule the whole shebang and having to come up with a bunch of white lies that we have to tell our significant other, job and whatever else in order to meet you. That's a lot of stress to go through just to meet you.  

I show my appreciation by paying you the stated rate and not to haggle you about the rate because I agreed to it in the first place. Then, I go to a review website like this one and post a good review about the session.  

When was the last time you tipped your auto mechanic after a job well done?  I thought so, neither have I.

Of course I do tip the waiters at the restaurants assuming they do a good job. Also, I tip them because they don't make $300 an hour either.

The Forest Waits

RokkKrinn 1332 reads
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19 / 76

When I feel like the lady in question has provided service which is outside the parameters of what I've been led to expect, then acknowledgement is A Good Thing. (e.g., I saw a "sensual massage" gal, and she very quickly moved us into the FS realm--I guess she wants to vet her clients f2f before offering more--naturally I gave her more than the "rack" rate.  Or it could just be that we've gone past our allotted time--or something, whatever)

Gifts on the other hand, are another matter.  And when it comes to those, I put a lot of thought into the matter before I give them.  I rarely just "check the box" on the Amazon Wish List.  When I do give a gift, it's usually highly personalized and specific to whatever chemistry we personally have.

JohnHooker 2048 reads
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20 / 76

You do make a comment in your OP ( as was pointed out ) " In almost every business of service tipping is a form of appreciation.Unless I am wrong, in this business gentlemen seems to forget to realize that the same aspect is applicable to providers. "

Any way you cut it YOU are making it seem like you feel hobbyists SHOULD tip. Then you respond to the various opinions by saying " It is never expected "

Make up your mind !! Stick with whatever your feelings on the situation are and since you made the original OP, it is obvious where you stand.

Also a point that bonordonor brought up... If you own the business you are not usually going to be tipped other than repeat business for excellent service . There are very RARE times that someone feels the need to leave a little something extra, even to the  owner ( possibly at Holidays ) but tips USUALLY go to the workers who are making USUALLY MARKEDLY less than the OWNER so a customer feels that a Gratuity may be warranted for the workers service.

You as the owner have the right to set your FEE anywhere you want as long as your service warrants it .  

As for sleeping on it. Think about this from the other side...without the hobbyist the provider would have NOONE to Provide to.

 
Sleep on That !!!

perfectstorm 19 Reviews 1598 reads
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21 / 76

About tipping them too far because they might fall over.

Dr Who revived 1508 reads
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22 / 76

I seriously find the concept of tipping anyone who is making serious change just a bizarre concept.  Now in my subject line I'm excluding hooking as a profession since it doesn't require any skills as far as CPE or licensure.  But many gals here make considerably more (without figuring in tips) than many of the johns who see them (yep...that's the fact ma'am).

So when I see this drivel...especially coming from a hooker asking for $ 1k minimum it's fucking hysterical that any john would think that a "tip" for doing what she advertised to do is of importance.  And honestly...I've been in public practice for quite a few years and have never thought of asking (as you appear to have...given your propensity to post this) a client to pay me more than my stated rates.  And none has...nor ever will...pay a tip.  It's simply asinine to even think along those lines.  That's what professionals do...or at least the one's I know.

But since a few (as in a very small minority) of the hookers seem to think that tips are part of this gig...I guess they're underselling themselves with their rate quotes.  

So...which restaurant are you serving at?  I love to tip gals who are single mom's working at near (or under) minimum wage living on tips from customers.  That wouldn't include you as a hooker...but as a waitperson I would gladly leave a nice tip (as I said...20-25% of the check).

Are you suggesting that your published rate is too high?  And that you work no where near 40 hours a week?  And that you're light years from $ 2M in income?  I suspect the answers to all those is a resounding YES.  Here's a tip...no charge for it either..adjust your rates so that you get enough johns to see you and you can have your rent(s) paid on time for a change.  It's what the smart gals do.

See you soon...and remember to keep my coffee hot  ;)
Posted By: ZoePiers
The kindness of tipping and the 30% was a FIRST for me and thats why it caught my attention. I don't understand why you are comparing a simple form of appreciation that is never expected to "Income Levels" and why my rate is a reference point.  
   
 I was quite surprised because it rarely happens..

Blowing Chunks 1426 reads
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23 / 76

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cesSRfXqS1Q

Dr Who revived 1142 reads
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24 / 76

Believe it or not some of the dudes here see behind the scenes.  Some of us have a very good understanding of the financial ramifications of this gig.  If you want to suggest that you're NOT really pulling in $ 2M a year...I'm shocked.  Hell...I did the math and it seems like that is the number YOU should be at.  Oh wait a moment...I forgot to add in the discount factor on the $ 1k/hr gal(s).  Yep...now I see what the issue really is.

OK...as I posted above you've used this threAd to try and generate some interest hoping a few guys (hey...here's another free tip..avoid the dude from AZ who is a time waster) will send in a request and do a two hour that you don't have to discount.  Here's another tip...free as well...play with those rates (yeah...I remember you're still looking for that SD but until you find him play with those numbers) until you get enough confirms (without the cancellations and NCNS) so that you aren't late again on the rent(s).  As well...get rid of the leased vehicle...it's a loser.  No need to thank me..nor tip me..it's a pro bono effort on my part.

And remember to tip your server...she is a single mom with two kids and no child support (and getting less than minimum wage per hour).  She isn't fucking her way to Loubitons.  Honestly...some of you hookers are so fucking delusional it's a miracle you're still here.  You'd think at you're rates you easily could have retired years ago.  But here you are...without two nickels to rub together and hoping some jack ass throws you a few extra.  Fucking pathetic.

You should sleep on it.
Posted By: ZoePiers
Thank you to the GREATEST TER TIPPER.  
   
 On behalf of all providers in the world "WE" wish more (hobbysits-gentelmen) were like you- besides your gentleness, a good tipper who appreciates the fact that, what we offer is a service from the deepest, purest parts of our souls.  
   
 Married, or single, lonely or happy, a hobbysit or not....what would you do without providers..  
   
 .....I'd sleep on it..  
   
 Zoe  

-- Modified on 3/23/2014 2:35:40 PM

Alyssa Marie See my TER Reviews 1112 reads
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25 / 76

If you work for a shoe company and get free shoes, I wear a 6.5.

Other than that.. This is an age old question and the answer is pretty simple. Some people are gift givers no matter what the occasion and others aren't. Be it in the form of an actual gift, cash or whatever.  

I just went to Australia and I took over some local gifts. Majority of the men that I saw brought me something Australian. That was fun.

perfectstorm 19 Reviews 1526 reads
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26 / 76

You starting this thread makes it sound like you "expect" tips. Really? At a thousand per hour, you expect a tip on top? Wow!

I tip waiters and waitresses and others who's regular pay is minimum wage or less and who depend on tips for survival. I don't tip attorneys, accountants, doctors, dentists, contractors, or mechanics for doing their job, and I am not in the habit of tipping professionals who make more in one hour than most folks make in a day or more.

The only time I have tipped providers, is if I felt they performed above and beyond my expectations. This would include things like going over time, giving me some YMMV service that I reasonably believe most other clients are not receiving, giving me OTC time, or charging a much lower base rate than the area average. As an example of the last statement, there is a gal who I have seen who is cute, sweet, gives me amazing GFE service and only charges me 150/hr. That one gets a tip every time!

-- Modified on 3/23/2014 2:14:04 PM

Dr Who revived 1523 reads
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27 / 76

Gals who get this gig understand who is paying the bill...and why.  But they also set those rates to make sure that it works for them on whatever level they need it to work.

But Zoe has priced herself into a corner.  And not that the 1k is the problem..it's the expenses she incurs for herself.  I've seen that all too often...and not just in this world of P4P.

So her dilemma is to lower her rates publicly and generate more interest...or just continue to discount the dude(s) that contact her and then suggest a "tip".  That bullshit tactic gets around here...and she's not the only hooker that does that crap.

You and I will sleep fine...maybe Zoe should try Ambien?
Posted By: JohnHooker
You do make a comment in your OP ( as was pointed out ) " In almost every business of service tipping is a form of appreciation.Unless I am wrong, in this business gentlemen seems to forget to realize that the same aspect is applicable to providers. "  
   
 Any way you cut it YOU are making it seem like you feel hobbyists SHOULD tip. Then you respond to the various opinions by saying " It is never expected "  
   
 Make up your mind !! Stick with whatever your feelings on the situation are and since you made the original OP, it is obvious where you stand.  
   
 Also a point that bonordonor brought up... If you own the business you are not usually going to be tipped other than repeat business for excellent service . There are very RARE times that someone feels the need to leave a little something extra, even to the  owner ( possibly at Holidays ) but tips USUALLY go to the workers who are making USUALLY MARKEDLY less than the OWNER so a customer feels that a Gratuity may be warranted for the workers service.  
   
 You as the owner have the right to set your FEE anywhere you want as long as your service warrants it .  
   
 As for sleeping on it. Think about this from the other side...without the hobbyist the provider would have NOONE to Provide to.  
   
   
 Sleep on That !!!

JohnHooker 1318 reads
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28 / 76

" Married, or single, lonely or happy, a hobbysit or not....what would you do without providers.. "

The AUDACITY of this comments SCREAMS " HEY I"M ENTITLED !!!"""  

WTF !! am I missing ??!!! WE are the reason that this Profession is worth it for Providers to sell themselves  PERIOD !!!  

BASICS OF BUSINESS!!!! Without the customer THERE IS NO BUSINESS !!!  

UNF"CKIN BELIEVABLE !!!!

Back_In_Black 1273 reads
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29 / 76

Isn't like other service businesses ....so you want your rate and 15% to20%...! Get real ...however due to the human nature of sex a gift ? Sure ...

Posted By: ZoePiers
In almost every business of service tipping is a form of appreciation.Unless I am wrong, in this business gentlemen seems to forget to realize that the same aspect is applicable to providers.  
   
 Gentlemen, should you tip, would you tip, have you tipped    
   
 Thank you WB;)  
 

-- Modified on 3/23/2014 1:36:42 PM

Tobi Telford See my TER Reviews 946 reads
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30 / 76

If I had to pick one? I'll take the cash. Flowers and jewelry don't pay the bills.  

I've received quite a few gifts, all of which were lovely. One thing though, guys: try not to bring flowers to our incall. It's just not discreet.  
Posted By: RodTidweLL
Have you received gifts Tobi?

Blowing Chunks 1539 reads
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31 / 76

I've only tipped just a handful of providers with real money. If she went above and beyond my expectations or if she spent too much OTC time with me and couldn't make anything that day, then I might tip her so that her income isn't completely cut off while hanging out with me.  

 


-- Modified on 3/23/2014 11:39:14 PM

Blowing Chunks 1481 reads
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32 / 76

IMO, girls need to ask themselves how long the tipping would continue before the guy becomes tired of banging the same girl and finds an equally hot girl charging much less and isn't spoiled.  Thus I would only tip when the scale balances somewhat, when the girl puts in a lot for me as well

MikeShanahan 1336 reads
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33 / 76

A grand an hour. Huh. I'm sure she's special but is she 'EC special?' Doubt it.  

Posted By: ChgoCPA
Gals who get this gig understand who is paying the bill...and why.  But they also set those rates to make sure that it works for them on whatever level they need it to work.  
   
 But Zoe has priced herself into a corner.  And not that the 1k is the problem..it's the expenses she incurs for herself.  I've seen that all too often...and not just in this world of P4P.  
   
 So her dilemma is to lower her rates publicly and generate more interest...or just continue to discount the dude(s) that contact her and then suggest a "tip".  That bullshit tactic gets around here...and she's not the only hooker that does that crap.  
   
 You and I will sleep fine...maybe Zoe should try Ambien?  
   
Posted By: JohnHooker
You do make a comment in your OP ( as was pointed out ) " In almost every business of service tipping is a form of appreciation.Unless I am wrong, in this business gentlemen seems to forget to realize that the same aspect is applicable to providers. "  
     
  Any way you cut it YOU are making it seem like you feel hobbyists SHOULD tip. Then you respond to the various opinions by saying " It is never expected "  
     
  Make up your mind !! Stick with whatever your feelings on the situation are and since you made the original OP, it is obvious where you stand.  
     
  Also a point that bonordonor brought up... If you own the business you are not usually going to be tipped other than repeat business for excellent service . There are very RARE times that someone feels the need to leave a little something extra, even to the  owner ( possibly at Holidays ) but tips USUALLY go to the workers who are making USUALLY MARKEDLY less than the OWNER so a customer feels that a Gratuity may be warranted for the workers service.  
     
  You as the owner have the right to set your FEE anywhere you want as long as your service warrants it .    
     
  As for sleeping on it. Think about this from the other side...without the hobbyist the provider would have NOONE to Provide to.  
     
     
  Sleep on That !!!

MikeShanahan 1523 reads
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34 / 76

lol

Posted By: Cosette
I don't tip my therapist. Nor most professionals I come in contact with.  
   
 I'd like to be considered more on that scale.

89Springer 1369 reads
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35 / 76
perfectstorm 19 Reviews 1153 reads
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36 / 76

He saw her for 2 hours according to the review. So if she is saying he gave her a 30% tip, that's 6 bills for a total of 2600.
Nice job WickedBrut! :D

On the other hand his review did say they went overtime. So perhaps he was just paying for the extra time in which case it is not really a tip.

As I mentioned in my post below, I don't tip a provider for good service, but I have tipped for service above and beyond expectations (including more time than was contracted for).

-- Modified on 3/23/2014 3:31:39 PM

WondersOfTheWrld 1388 reads
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37 / 76

been tipped up to 100% of my $1k rate (yep, that means a $1k tip), I'd never question or request someone tip me based on every other business of service. Let's get real…though it's a nice gesture, the same aspect is not applicable to escorts…we make far more than other businesses of service to act as if we require a tip. lol

MatureGFE See my TER Reviews 1168 reads
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39 / 76

and I'm hoping no one disagrees, but WTH...

Asking something like this or bringing it up at all here on this board, is well um, not the best place to do it unless you want to get some of the responses you are getting.

These guys are a colorful bunch for sure but it's kinda like going into a sports bar or pub and asking about a gluten free menu or for the tables with the white linen table clothes -LMAO. These guys here want to have FUN and have it at what they feel is a fair donation and FORGET the rest. Some here may tip, I'm betting a few do or book some fun multi- multi hour dates that include some time "out", but it's their business and they DO NOT want to talk about it or hear from a lady about these random acts of "kindness"(?). I thought a random act of kindness was more like helping out a person in need or paying it forward.

And oh, if you are a HDH you will get it even worse, lol.

I gotten tips and those gentlemen do have my attention and I will move heaven and earth for some of them. Just like in any service business good tippers tip more because they feel you knocked it outta the park in some way. AND they also know you will remember them. I tip the shit out of my nail tech because she VERY good, gives one hell of a hand and foot massage, works me in last minute is always in a happy mood when I see her ANd she has to split the base cost with the salon. I tip her in cash so she doesn't have to wait til her next paycheck to see it. Same whenever I'm paying for lunch or dinner. Women are known in the hospitality industry to be bad tippers. Not me, nope. But as you probably know they don't even have to be paid minimum wage by their employer.

You've gotten some honest answers here some kinda brutal ones too and I'm betting some guy lurkers who know better than say much about tipping here. The term mangina get used here a lot, lol.

I think you lost some at "should you tip"?

Just my 2 cents though..

xoxo,

Steph

BTW I want your LIPS and smile! ;-)



MatureGFE See my TER Reviews 1543 reads
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40 / 76

And appears to be VERY pretty in a very naturally classic young way. There are other ladies doing it well and Ms Cole got her pretty arse handed to her a few times here. But she could and did walk the walk. And I'm sure her upkeep beauty wise was something else. One thing she was...was smart and seem to invest well for the future.

I knew this young lady was going to get in some hot water with the "should you tip" thing. It does have some implications. Even big spenders with a taste for the very best here don't like to feel any sort of pinch in the wallet, then it's just not fun anymore.

But I could be wrong as Dennis Miller use to say at the end of his weekly rants on HBO in the 90's on Dennis Miller Live.

Money will always be a topic here that can go terribly wrong.

Steph (Aries with a Persian cat) ;-)

ZoePiers See my TER Reviews 1269 reads
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41 / 76

ChgoCPA I dont get this, unless i am just simply stupid, are we fighting? Are you angry?

I DONT GET YOU MAN!!

-- Modified on 3/23/2014 8:04:05 PM

riorunner 1155 reads
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42 / 76

Well said ps!! I too have tipped, both cash and other valuables, but only to women that have gone way above an "average" session. Or to a few that I have seen many times and the relationship has evolved into something quite different.
                                             Regards.....RR

ZoePiers See my TER Reviews 1531 reads
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43 / 76
ZoePiers See my TER Reviews 1512 reads
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44 / 76

We exist because of you, if we never existed you wouldnt exist..  

I am surprised..

I am Not Entitled..

Zoe
Posted By: JohnHooker
" Married, or single, lonely or happy, a hobbysit or not....what would you do without providers.. "  
   
 The AUDACITY of this comments SCREAMS " HEY I"M ENTITLED !!!"""  
   
 WTF !! am I missing ??!!! WE are the reason that this Profession is worth it for Providers to sell themselves  PERIOD !!!  
   
 BASICS OF BUSINESS!!!! Without the customer THERE IS NO BUSINESS !!!  
   
 UNF"CKIN BELIEVABLE !!!!

Canitbe 1487 reads
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45 / 76

I tip when a tip deserved
When I am happy with the time I have spent with a beautiful lady I always tip
Maybe I am a little old school but I always tip when I am happy, even when the piizza delivery guy shows up early lol

ZoePiers See my TER Reviews 1450 reads
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46 / 76

I rarely get tipped and i never expect it. This was a first for me..  

Its true without you buyers; hobbyiss, providers will have no one to sell too.  

My thought process at the time was - overall women are pretty things men in general seems to appreciate this fact..  

About tipping I assumed given that its an act of service, tipping is a form or appreciation..

I am not DEMANDING that you guys TIP!!And if it came across that way , please pardon me.
 
Posted By: JohnHooker
You do make a comment in your OP ( as was pointed out ) " In almost every business of service tipping is a form of appreciation.Unless I am wrong, in this business gentlemen seems to forget to realize that the same aspect is applicable to providers. "  
   
 Any way you cut it YOU are making it seem like you feel hobbyists SHOULD tip. Then you respond to the various opinions by saying " It is never expected "  
   
 Make up your mind !! Stick with whatever your feelings on the situation are and since you made the original OP, it is obvious where you stand.  
   
 Also a point that bonordonor brought up... If you own the business you are not usually going to be tipped other than repeat business for excellent service . There are very RARE times that someone feels the need to leave a little something extra, even to the  owner ( possibly at Holidays ) but tips USUALLY go to the workers who are making USUALLY MARKEDLY less than the OWNER so a customer feels that a Gratuity may be warranted for the workers service.  
   
 You as the owner have the right to set your FEE anywhere you want as long as your service warrants it .  
   
 As for sleeping on it. Think about this from the other side...without the hobbyist the provider would have NOONE to Provide to.  
   
   
 Sleep on That !!!

ZoePiers See my TER Reviews 1110 reads
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47 / 76

And I hope so do you... I don't get You..

 
Posted By: ChgoCPA
Believe it or not some of the dudes here see behind the scenes.  Some of us have a very good understanding of the financial ramifications of this gig.  If you want to suggest that you're NOT really pulling in $ 2M a year...I'm shocked.  Hell...I did the math and it seems like that is the number YOU should be at.  Oh wait a moment...I forgot to add in the discount factor on the $ 1k/hr gal(s).  Yep...now I see what the issue really is.  
   
 OK...as I posted above you've used this threAd to try and generate some interest hoping a few guys (hey...here's another free tip..avoid the dude from AZ who is a time waster) will send in a request and do a two hour that you don't have to discount.  Here's another tip...free as well...play with those rates (yeah...I remember you're still looking for that SD but until you find him play with those numbers) until you get enough confirms (without the cancellations and NCNS) so that you aren't late again on the rent(s).  As well...get rid of the leased vehicle...it's a loser.  No need to thank me..nor tip me..it's a pro bono effort on my part.  
   
 And remember to tip your server...she is a single mom with two kids and no child support (and getting less than minimum wage per hour).  She isn't fucking her way to Loubitons.  Honestly...some of you hookers are so fucking delusional it's a miracle you're still here.  You'd think at you're rates you easily could have retired years ago.  But here you are...without two nickels to rub together and hoping some jack ass throws you a few extra.  Fucking pathetic.  
   
 You should sleep on it.  
   
Posted By: ZoePiers
Thank you to the GREATEST TER TIPPER.  
     
  On behalf of all providers in the world "WE" wish more (hobbysits-gentelmen) were like you- besides your gentleness, a good tipper who appreciates the fact that, what we offer is a service from the deepest, purest parts of our souls.    
     
  Married, or single, lonely or happy, a hobbysit or not....what would you do without providers..  
     
  .....I'd sleep on it..  
     
  Zoe  
   
 -- Modified on 3/23/2014 2:35:40 PM

ZoePiers See my TER Reviews 1554 reads
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Whatever happened to: To Insure Promptness?

ZoePiers See my TER Reviews 922 reads
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And again I don't get you, I lack the best words to respond to this..  

Posted By: ChgoCPA
I seriously find the concept of tipping anyone who is making serious change just a bizarre concept.  Now in my subject line I'm excluding hooking as a profession since it doesn't require any skills as far as CPE or licensure.  But many gals here make considerably more (without figuring in tips) than many of the johns who see them (yep...that's the fact ma'am).  
   
 So when I see this drivel...especially coming from a hooker asking for $ 1k minimum it's fucking hysterical that any john would think that a "tip" for doing what she advertised to do is of importance.  And honestly...I've been in public practice for quite a few years and have never thought of asking (as you appear to have...given your propensity to post this) a client to pay me more than my stated rates.  And none has...nor ever will...pay a tip.  It's simply asinine to even think along those lines.  That's what professionals do...or at least the one's I know.  
   
 But since a few (as in a very small minority) of the hookers seem to think that tips are part of this gig...I guess they're underselling themselves with their rate quotes.    
   
 So...which restaurant are you serving at?  I love to tip gals who are single mom's working at near (or under) minimum wage living on tips from customers.  That wouldn't include you as a hooker...but as a waitperson I would gladly leave a nice tip (as I said...20-25% of the check).  
   
 Are you suggesting that your published rate is too high?  And that you work no where near 40 hours a week?  And that you're light years from $ 2M in income?  I suspect the answers to all those is a resounding YES.  Here's a tip...no charge for it either..adjust your rates so that you get enough johns to see you and you can have your rent(s) paid on time for a change.  It's what the smart gals do.  
   
 See you soon...and remember to keep my coffee hot  ;)  
   
Posted By: ZoePiers
The kindness of tipping and the 30% was a FIRST for me and thats why it caught my attention. I don't understand why you are comparing a simple form of appreciation that is never expected to "Income Levels" and why my rate is a reference point.    
     
  I was quite surprised because it rarely happens..

WickedBrut 27 Reviews 1345 reads
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The session is meant to be a place where pleasure and goodness is shared, given and received. If a gentleman elects to donate a little extra it should be taken as part of this giving to make the provider happy. Men enjoy making women happy, giving them pleasure, ESPECIALLY when pleasure is given them in return.

Money only has value when it is shared, spent, does good, creates happiness. You can't eat money, you have to trade it for food. Yet, for some, it is so important to HAVE that they resent parting with it.

Just respect the moment.

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That's good to know if we ever meet.

89Springer 1273 reads
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When the service has been good, I've left a tip. It makes me feel good. If the provider wants more money, though, she should just raise her rates.

On Friday I made the mistake of leaving a $100 tip in the envelope after a pretty lackluster session. I figure the next provider owes me. ;)

ken_la08 1 Reviews 1196 reads
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And a uniquely American tradition.  If you research tipping there's a nice debate going on right now with some restauranteurs starting to end the custom.

Tipping never made sense, and still makes no sense.  The only way it makes sense is in the sense of bribing.  Like tipping the building inspector after you get your permit.  It is bad.

But it is what it is.

As others said, employers don't get tips - that's the history and tradition.  So in the Middle Ages, when you visit an inn you don't tip the owner, but you may tip the guy who takes your horse.  Though they both may be equally poor.  Most people don't follow this tradition today - probably because they don't know, the owners don't know, and tipping makes sure the owner doesn't screw you.  Most people (including owners like you Zoe) don't know this history of tipping.

I think the problem is you're a lot young and not knowledgeable.  You took an exception to the rule (American server tipping) and thought it was the norm.  The norm is no tipping.  In almost every business, it is strictly speaking a violation of ethics to accept a tip.  Because a tip is a bribe.

That's why in other countries there are no tips.  And that's why in other countries bartenders don't overpour drinks and servers don't 'forget' to charge you for an appetizer.

If anyone wants to dispute anything I've written, google and wiki it first.  And second, i reserve the right to be wrong.
Posted By: ZoePiers
In almost every business of service tipping is a form of appreciation.Unless I am wrong, in this business gentlemen seems to forget to realize that the same aspect is applicable to providers.  
   
 Gentlemen, should you tip, would you tip, have you tipped    
   
 Thank you WB;)  
 

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SassyBitch 1565 reads
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First of all, you really should of thought before making such a thread here when there are trolls on here who have nothing better to do then hate on providers. At the rate you charge why are you so elated about being tipped? I get tipped a lot plus I get expensive gifts and trips. I keep all that to myself because it is no ones business but mines. The only time I would really bother to post is if a troll is hating then I will hand them their ass on a silver platter. Also, don't mention anything about sugar daddies or other b.s. It's tacky and you are only wasting your time. Post only when necessary and other posts put on the provider's board. As far as those comparing her to EC, she is her own person therefor she doesn't have to be nor should she be like her.

Cosette 1395 reads
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I'm sure my accountant would also not be insulted if I gave him extra money.

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And I take that aspect very seriously as people in the service industry, especially with people who work hard, are good at what they do and go above and beyond...simply deserve to be compensated well. I will never understand those who calculate 'exactly' 20% or less on a dining bill and I will look at them usually like they have a third eye...I'm like really? These people work hard and have families to take care of, fork it out lol. And yes, in the real world, that usually tells me a lot about the person whether he/she is a giver or taker. I tip according to what I feel they deserve, not what is meant to be calculated in most cases.  

In this world, I would never 'expect' any kind of tip in excess of what the gentleman has already contributed. It's a totally different thing. While it has happened a few times for me as well, it threw me way off guard in more ways than one. I couldn't have been more grateful, especially when receiving something completely unexpected and out of the goodness of one's heart. When it boils down to it, that's what tipping in any world really is. But 'tipping' over 'gifting' for me is much more appreciated with what I am trying to achieve here. Unfortunately, I can't use a piece of jewelry or a pair of designer shoes to add to my children's funds or treat them to something special.

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Posted By: JustSayin
 
   
Posted By: ZoePiers
My rate is good enough  
     
  zoe

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Flower delivery , etc ....one does not charge a fee and deserve a tip ! And tipping for sex is tacky and cheap ! An insult ..I'd never tip a woman for sex , and if she really wanted it I would look at her differently ! Get a job Zoe ....

Posted By: ZoePiers
I rarely get tipped and i never expect it. This was a first for me..  
   
 Its true without you buyers; hobbyiss, providers will have no one to sell too.  
   
 My thought process at the time was - overall women are pretty things men in general seems to appreciate this fact..  
   
 About tipping I assumed given that its an act of service, tipping is a form or appreciation..  
   
 I am not DEMANDING that you guys TIP!!And if it came across that way , please pardon me.  
   
   
Posted By: JohnHooker
You do make a comment in your OP ( as was pointed out ) " In almost every business of service tipping is a form of appreciation.Unless I am wrong, in this business gentlemen seems to forget to realize that the same aspect is applicable to providers. "  
     
  Any way you cut it YOU are making it seem like you feel hobbyists SHOULD tip. Then you respond to the various opinions by saying " It is never expected "  
     
  Make up your mind !! Stick with whatever your feelings on the situation are and since you made the original OP, it is obvious where you stand.  
     
  Also a point that bonordonor brought up... If you own the business you are not usually going to be tipped other than repeat business for excellent service . There are very RARE times that someone feels the need to leave a little something extra, even to the  owner ( possibly at Holidays ) but tips USUALLY go to the workers who are making USUALLY MARKEDLY less than the OWNER so a customer feels that a Gratuity may be warranted for the workers service.  
     
  You as the owner have the right to set your FEE anywhere you want as long as your service warrants it .    
     
  As for sleeping on it. Think about this from the other side...without the hobbyist the provider would have NOONE to Provide to.  
     
     
  Sleep on That !!!

MikeShanahan 1225 reads
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I said I meant no disrespect. It's just laughable to me a grand an hour gal need not worry about tips. She's no EC I can guarantee you that. What does "getting her pretty arse handed to her" (EC)have to do with tipping?" And I'd disagree on that. She dished back better than she got. Easily. The few guys here who tried to get her goat not so secretly wondered what the EC hoopla was all about. I can assure you EC was 'all that' and much much more.  

I'd see Zoe. She'd been on my 'list' and this thread hasn't really changed that impression much. If you note initial post, I was inferring that this topic has been beat to death and the thread would take off. I tip. On occasion. Usually to cover the expenses of gals who traverse long distances to see me.  

I'm just floored a gal making a grand an hour SEEMS to be on here promoting the concept. One of my atf's is now an LA gal. Ya it's expensive there. But my ATF would slit her wrists before showing up here much less initiating a thread like this. All I'm saying.  
Posted By: MatureGFE
And appears to be VERY pretty in a very naturally classic young way. There are other ladies doing it well and Ms Cole got her pretty arse handed to her a few times here. But she could and did walk the walk. And I'm sure her upkeep beauty wise was something else. One thing she was...was smart and seem to invest well for the future.

I knew this young lady was going to get in some hot water with the "should you tip" thing. It does have some implications. Even big spenders with a taste for the very best here don't like to feel any sort of pinch in the wallet, then it's just not fun anymore.

But I could be wrong as Dennis Miller use to say at the end of his weekly rants on HBO in the 90's on Dennis Miller Live.

Money will always be a topic here that can go terribly wrong.

Steph (Aries with a Persian cat) ;-)
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bonordonor 1359 reads
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I give them the shaft. And I give them the tip multiple times throughout the session. You are right, I do feel great about it when I leave.

HooktardGold 1542 reads
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She goes from saying it's not expected to saying "We wish more hobbyists were more like the one who tipped" lol. If at her rate she is in need of tips, she is either not working as much as she claims or is living beyond her means with no other income. Well, the last part we know because she admitted to not haviing a real job in her last threAD.  

 
   
Posted By: JohnHooker
" Married, or single, lonely or happy, a hobbysit or not....what would you do without providers.. "  
     
  The AUDACITY of this comments SCREAMS " HEY I"M ENTITLED !!!"""    
     
  WTF !! am I missing ??!!! WE are the reason that this Profession is worth it for Providers to sell themselves  PERIOD !!!    
     
  BASICS OF BUSINESS!!!! Without the customer THERE IS NO BUSINESS !!!    
     
  UNF"CKIN BELIEVABLE !!!!

Dr Who revived 1473 reads
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You inherited it.

Hey Brut...did you pay the doorman a tip as well?

How about getting her rents paid up...or she'll be looking for another pad pretty soon.

Ahh...a fool and his money  LOL

Oh...and trust me Zoe didn't give a shit about your "lack of performance".  But she was thrilled that you came up with a few extra so she didn't get evicted....yet!  She's still looking for that SD...guess it won't be you  :(

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You should know better by now...I don't ever get angry on these boards.  

I simply stated my opinions on tipping...the topic YOU brought up.

Sorry if you don't understand why many of the posters (including myself) denounce it in this gig...but there are plenty of Brut's and RodT's here that will be coerced to add something to help you out.

As I said...it's not rocket science with getting the rates stabilized.  Play with those numbers and you'll find the one that brings in the most johns with the least amount of work.  To get that $ 1k is tough...most can't pull that off using TER.  And finding the dudes UTR is a difficult proposition as well....and you know that better than most.

If you don't figure this out at some point you'll still be hooking in 30 years and have nothing to show for it.  
Posted By: ZoePiers
ChgoCPA I dont get this, unless i am just simply stupid, are we fighting? Are you angry?  
   
 I DONT GET YOU MAN!!

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You'll understand what I and many others are saying here.

It's up to you to grow the fuck up however...and understand that while some dudes (see Brut or RodT) like gals with the "entitlement factor"...most don't.  So if you can make a career out of finding those that like the whiny bitchy entitled women of the world...good for you.  But it's a tough road...as you're finding out now!

Maybe hit Brut up for next months rent now...he seems to want to help you out  ;)
Posted By: ZoePiers
And I hope so do you... I don't get You..  
   
   
   
Posted By: ChgoCPA
Believe it or not some of the dudes here see behind the scenes.  Some of us have a very good understanding of the financial ramifications of this gig.  If you want to suggest that you're NOT really pulling in $ 2M a year...I'm shocked.  Hell...I did the math and it seems like that is the number YOU should be at.  Oh wait a moment...I forgot to add in the discount factor on the $ 1k/hr gal(s).  Yep...now I see what the issue really is.  
     
  OK...as I posted above you've used this threAd to try and generate some interest hoping a few guys (hey...here's another free tip..avoid the dude from AZ who is a time waster) will send in a request and do a two hour that you don't have to discount.  Here's another tip...free as well...play with those rates (yeah...I remember you're still looking for that SD but until you find him play with those numbers) until you get enough confirms (without the cancellations and NCNS) so that you aren't late again on the rent(s).  As well...get rid of the leased vehicle...it's a loser.  No need to thank me..nor tip me..it's a pro bono effort on my part.  
     
  And remember to tip your server...she is a single mom with two kids and no child support (and getting less than minimum wage per hour).  She isn't fucking her way to Loubitons.  Honestly...some of you hookers are so fucking delusional it's a miracle you're still here.  You'd think at you're rates you easily could have retired years ago.  But here you are...without two nickels to rub together and hoping some jack ass throws you a few extra.  Fucking pathetic.  
     
  You should sleep on it.  
     
Posted By: ZoePiers
Thank you to the GREATEST TER TIPPER.    
       
   On behalf of all providers in the world "WE" wish more (hobbysits-gentelmen) were like you- besides your gentleness, a good tipper who appreciates the fact that, what we offer is a service from the deepest, purest parts of our souls.    
       
   Married, or single, lonely or happy, a hobbysit or not....what would you do without providers..    
       
   .....I'd sleep on it..    
       
   Zoe    
     
  -- Modified on 3/23/2014 2:35:40 PM

Dr Who revived 1140 reads
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And then let me know how those tips are a major part of your income.  But since Mommy and Daddy left you enough buckaroos that you never had to make an honest buck in your life...you have no clue.

But given that you had to post in your defense here that you didn't "perform" with Zoe...yeah, I get why you're babbling your nonsense.

Here's a tip...hookers don't give a shit about YOUR performance, or lack of it.  
Posted By: WickedBrut
Whatever happened to: To Insure Promptness?

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For one reason, you cannot distinguish between virtue and vice, and recklessly criticize both. This is one characteristic of a psychopath.

Do you sneer at generous people because you are afraid to share anything with anybody? Are you afraid there won't be enough left for you? You are beyond hope. You are the definition, LITERALLY, of an "ignorant peasant."

Dr Who revived 1276 reads
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So I guess you're a licensed shrink?  You are able to distinguish a psychopath without actually taking the time to do the proper diagnosis?  Maybe someone should look at how you got credentialed?

Nope...you're just another wannabe rich kid.

As for knowing and understanding success...well, I guess you got me there.  I'll just let all those guys/gals that are self-made successes know that they need to stop making successes of themselves.

Maybe one day you'll understand...not likely however!

And are you trying to create new definitions of peasant?  Good luck.

No tip required...but if you'd like to make a donation in my name to the Hookers Retirement Home that would be greatly appreciated.  You don't even need to perform...do it anonymously.
Posted By: WickedBrut
For one reason, you cannot distinguish between virtue and vice, and recklessly criticize both. This is one characteristic of a psychopath.  
   
 Do you sneer at generous people because you are afraid to share anything with anybody? Are you afraid there won't be enough left for you? You are beyond hope. You are the definition, LITERALLY, of an "ignorant peasant."

HooktardGold 1490 reads
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There are girls at 200 who can do the very same thing... gimme a damn break.

HooktardGold 1104 reads
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EC's biggest attribute was the fact that not only did she not have to beg for business on here, but that she could up and leave at any time she wanted to, because she was never totally dependent on this for her only source of income like the OP.  Being hot and bending over does not a genius make.

MatureGFE See my TER Reviews 1337 reads
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WAY to smart and  it would go against the brand she brilliantly carved out.

I said she could walk the walk and she was one of the best.

She just played around here on the boards for fun, I imagine most of the gentlemen friends didn't much here.

and I still say a HDH saying some of these things that were said here by OP will be looked at like you did, or worse get some of the more negative responses.

Steph

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