I am going to preface this with saying that I, myself, am a true bisexual. At one time, I planned on marrying a women. So I am 200% for gay rights, gay equality and standing up for the LGBTQ community.  

and yes I agree that TS providers should be a completely separate category and that the vast majority of whore mongers think of them that way.

I don't like to judge, but anyone with a dick does nothing for me sexually, for those that like it fine, but count me out. and know I don't see it in any way the same as any type of girl, regular or otherwise. IMO, If you have a dick, you are not a girl, woman, lady etc. and if you are a guy that is turned on by another human being with a dick, you are gay. Not that there is anything wrong with being gay, but let's call it what it is.

I hate to use a double standard, but only women are allowed to be bi. As a man, once you suck a dick, you are gay, I don't care if the dick is attached to someone that looks like a woman, if you like dick you are GAY. lmao

ok, let the flaming and eye scratching begin. lol

My opinion is that TS providers are providers just the same as any other provider (male or female). They may offer a different service, but I know many ladies that offer services that are different than my own and it doesn't make me want to separate them from anyone else.

I don't see a problem with them being on TER and getting reviews, etc.

I did see a post-op TS one time.  I found that I could not perform however, and have not seen one since.

Doesn't mean that others can't however. Obviously there is a market for them just like all the other varieties of services we have such as BD/SM, massage, etc.

this forum seems like the last place in which we should categorize, polarize, or judge.

but the reality is that the people here are every bit as narrow minded and judgmental as society at large. You may find my opinion may be one of the most openminded that you will find here. I simply said that having sex with a tranny is akin to gay sex, but I said it without judging gay sex. Personally I don't care what consenting adults do, but I don't like to sugarcoat it in an effort to be PC either.

If I were gay, I would just be "out of the closet" I'd burn the fucking closet down along with the building it was in, but the facts are I am not gay. I like women, and trannies are not women. Sorry that offends some people, but that doesn't change the facts.

and actually let me make a correction, this place was designed specifically to categorize and judge, that's what reviewing is. The polarization is just an unfortunatel by product. lol

I learned long ago that predjudices are a complete waste of time and energy and that the differences between each of us should be celebrated. That being said, I'm not gay or even curious so I personally am not at all interested in a TS. It's their thing and I'm sure there are guys it works for but I'm quite sure I wouldn't be able to get it up with a TS. Just my preference.

Oh, well. *sigh*. BUT, I remembered I can get it for free, lol. Just travel to the cities and hit up my 'regulars' lol.

The simple test for that is to see if you still turned on once you see a full frontal nude shot. If she/he still turns you on, you are gay. Most of the rest of us will lose our wood the moment the dick becomes visible.

Now post op TS providers are a completely different issue, what I am talking about are "chicks with dicks" and that should be a no brainer where it comes to having a separate category.

I see women only.  I don't judge others.  I tolerate all lifestyles, races and beliefs.  My life, beliefs and morals are mine, I will not impose them on others.  As the hypocratic oath begins, first do no harm and it is all I ask of anyone.

Once you attend spa you are gay. :

have a desire for TS providers, but, damn, if you have ever viewed some of their pics, some of them are hot......minus the penis of course.

True.

But I also know some guys asked TER to remove their reviews of TS providers because they are afraid some providers will not see them. Many providers think guys who see TS providers carry more health risks although I don't know if there is enough data to back up their concerns.

It looks like FIDIOT is going to win in a landslide.

Good thing I was the one booking the action and the one betting. I would have lost a bundle as you appeared to have it clinched way back in June. Oh well, it's nice to be the book sometimes. lol

That's kind of my long winded way of agreeing with you.

If someone sees both biologically born females and TS women, I would simply assume that they explore a lot and they're not afraid of following what they think they may like, and that fits the type of character in a person whom I'd want to see. Why not meet with them? As long as they're always safe

Not for me ! Never went on the board once have 0 interest in doing so.  

I wonder if that means I'm.... Oh no!  I am, I gotta be. Shit shit Ah ah ah Gotta shave my legs, too hairy too hairy  But I like beer! I do like beer! but the hotdogs, the hotdogs shit shit too phallic push these thoughts away Ah ah

Don't give up on Dungy.  He's clown to the core.  Here he is, all dressed up.


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I enjoy eating pussy far too much to enjoy a TS. But there's always the outside chance one is out there who would interest me. I've never been ashamed of anything I've done so I wouldn't feel guilty about it. Secretive perhaps,  though that's my default setting.

but wouldn't have a problem as a bisexual in trying it out. Some TS turn me on.  

And what is a 'regular' provider, anyway?

By your logic, if I get turned on by anything other than lesbians, I must be heterosexual.

Once a Year not EVERYDAY ?  

So it has nothing to do with what "a dick" might be attached to?  Not to mention, this is a matter of personal sexual taste.  That's the way he is.  It's not the way you are.  Or I am.  Why judge it?  He's actually careful not to judge it, but only says it turns him off personally.  And personally, I have a problem with people who are judgmental of others sexual preferences.
So I don't judge GaGa for his preferences, nor you for yours.  But I do judge you for your judging of his preferences. Get it?

The client was hers who wanted to experience an Asian... (I've never actually have had the courage to look at "IT" aka her Cock)  She's one of my Besties aka friend.. She lives her life as a female..   But I do understand they aren't  fully a female... But As stated by someone on this thread-a Provider is a provider...  

If you, or GAG, or anyone else believes you're "not judging", you are in some serious denial. The argument here is that any man who gets turned on by even looking at TS is Gay. Period.

Let me be clear.  I was responding to the part of GaGa's post where he simply said trannies turned him off but he was not judging gay sex.  You were clearly responding to a different part of his post. Pardon me if we talked past each other.  Personally, I don't think anyone who plays with a tranny on occasion is gay.  I've never done it but not that there's anything wrong with that. I don't like judgmental people.  And you sounded judgmental.  When GaGa says anyone who samples a tranny is gay, that's judgmental, too. Am I completely clear now?  You and GaGa are both judgmental cocksuckers.  Oh, that's not right! Neither of you suck cock!  I guess you have more in common than you thought.  Now, please, go fuck yourself, you judgmental cunt.  How 'bout that, sweety?

I see we've transitioned from adult discussion to poo slinging....(did you get the pun there nick...lol)..

It's the ultimate bait and switch otherwise.

Wassamatter plants?  Never read "Lady Chatterley's Lover?"  You should.  Please see below.
PS: I just went back and read my last post and thought it was pretty funny.  Also, please note I called Gambler a cocksucker and he doesn't seem terribly offended.  Now tell us, were you born without a sense of humor or was it surgically removed at an early age? LOL!

I really need to get with this girl, if only she'd come to NY.

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I don't think it matters or I don't care.  Who are we to judge.  It's like a fetish....some guys like to cum on women's feet....Who am I to say that's wrong or weird.  Whatever floats your boat.  I have seen a threesome provider couple.  I wanted to see what is was like to be with a couple and it was fun.  The focus was on the girl but it was fun to watch him fuck and suck her (turn on for me).  Bottom line.....don't judge.  Look at where we are having this discussion....again, don't judge and have an open mind.

If you don't, you are not subverting the cruel heterosexual phallocracy!  

Are u the pitcher or the catcher on the "switch hitters" ? I'm not a politician so I don't have to PRETEND gay is okay !  

Behind closed doors where it belongs , u wanna be gay 4 u . But why the need for approval ? And why the assumption that most other guys care , cause really we don't !  

Know what the fuck they mean , but they sure are purdy !  

Moses led the oppressed Jew out of bondage . People in the 21st century still under the rule of dictators are oppressed, fucking dudes with dicks in their asses are not oppressed ! And fugly women who want other fugly women and hate men are not oppressed ! Their WHINERS ! geeeez who do use pretty words but don't know how to apply them properly

Ultimately, they offer something different than a biological women - a penis. If TER found there's a reason to create a separate ad board, why not a separate list? There may be some men who specifically want to seek out the top 100 TS providers, but have to sift through biological ladies that they may not be interested in. Why not make it easier to find the best of TS without going thru all this work? And via versa for men who seek the opposite.

I may be a gay male..... or a lesbian.... or straight. It is all confusing as I watch so much differing porn.

If you click your heels together it may make you feel better ! Yeah I'm fucking sick of listening to gay whiners every fucking day on the news ! Who gives a shit ! Insecure assholes looking for approval for what they do and how they live , again who fucking cares ! And pushing a gay lifestyle on teens is creepy ! They should just be kids ! So fuck the gay movement !!!!! Got it

As long as everybody knows their place, we will all get along just fine.

From www.TERenglishdictionary.com

Since TER has created a separate forum for TS providers, they get their own top 100 list.  

because the person will always have man hands, and I am very much into manual contact by my sexual partner

She loves to describe herself as a true Lesbian.  But in fact she's bi.  And married to a cross dresser. What a kinkstress.