I am going to preface this with saying that I, myself, am a true bisexual. At one time, I planned on marrying a women. So I am 200% for gay rights, gay equality and standing up for the LGBTQ community.
BUT I have a question, well sort of a question. I want to hear everyone's opinions.
I think that the TS girls are TOTALLY different from regular providers. They are categorized with us, we compete against them to get a spot in the top 100 and they are viewed as though they are women.
And I get it, if that is your thing - more power to you! BUT I just don't think, that a regular provider and a TS provider should be categorized the same way. I think they should have their own top 100, and that TER should differentiate from them and us just a tad bit more.
Also - I am wondering - ladies if you found out that a client sees TS girls regularly, would you still see him? Would it bother you? Do you think its hot? Would you do a double with a TS girl?
Guys, how many of you visit TS girls? How many of you dont? Do you see it as being the same as a regular girl?
Recently, someone I know killed himself, because he was cheating on his wife with TS providers. He was so ashamed that he killed himself because he didn't want it to get out.
So guys, are you ashamed of it ? Will you actually admit you do it?
I don't think this topic has really been discussed. At least not from what I have seen. It may come up on the TS board, but I want to know the general populations opinions.
Please share!
and yes I agree that TS providers should be a completely separate category and that the vast majority of whore mongers think of them that way.
I don't like to judge, but anyone with a dick does nothing for me sexually, for those that like it fine, but count me out. and know I don't see it in any way the same as any type of girl, regular or otherwise. IMO, If you have a dick, you are not a girl, woman, lady etc. and if you are a guy that is turned on by another human being with a dick, you are gay. Not that there is anything wrong with being gay, but let's call it what it is.
I hate to use a double standard, but only women are allowed to be bi. As a man, once you suck a dick, you are gay, I don't care if the dick is attached to someone that looks like a woman, if you like dick you are GAY. lmao
ok, let the flaming and eye scratching begin. lol
this forum seems like the last place in which we should categorize, polarize, or judge.
but the reality is that the people here are every bit as narrow minded and judgmental as society at large. You may find my opinion may be one of the most openminded that you will find here. I simply said that having sex with a tranny is akin to gay sex, but I said it without judging gay sex. Personally I don't care what consenting adults do, but I don't like to sugarcoat it in an effort to be PC either.
If I were gay, I would just be "out of the closet" I'd burn the fucking closet down along with the building it was in, but the facts are I am not gay. I like women, and trannies are not women. Sorry that offends some people, but that doesn't change the facts.
and actually let me make a correction, this place was designed specifically to categorize and judge, that's what reviewing is. The polarization is just an unfortunatel by product. lol
Once you attend spa you are gay. :
My opinion is that TS providers are providers just the same as any other provider (male or female). They may offer a different service, but I know many ladies that offer services that are different than my own and it doesn't make me want to separate them from anyone else.
As far as physicality is concerned, there are many providers who have implants and advertise themselves as busty. Should they not be considered busty because they have implants? I don't have a problem with that. It is an accurate description. Since TS providers are described as TS they have an accurate description of themselves too.
The competitive nature that comes along with having a review system with a Top 100 is a double edged sword. The only providers we should be competing with is ourselves. We cannot be everything to everyone, but we can challenge ourselves to be better every date we have.
I don't see a problem with them being on TER and getting reviews, etc.
I did see a post-op TS one time. I found that I could not perform however, and have not seen one since.
Doesn't mean that others can't however. Obviously there is a market for them just like all the other varieties of services we have such as BD/SM, massage, etc.
I learned long ago that predjudices are a complete waste of time and energy and that the differences between each of us should be celebrated. That being said, I'm not gay or even curious so I personally am not at all interested in a TS. It's their thing and I'm sure there are guys it works for but I'm quite sure I wouldn't be able to get it up with a TS. Just my preference.
The simple test for that is to see if you still turned on once you see a full frontal nude shot. If she/he still turns you on, you are gay. Most of the rest of us will lose our wood the moment the dick becomes visible.
Now post op TS providers are a completely different issue, what I am talking about are "chicks with dicks" and that should be a no brainer where it comes to having a separate category.
By your logic, if I get turned on by anything other than lesbians, I must be heterosexual.
I actually like gay male porn. Some of it's really hot. Am I really a gay man in denial?....lol...
Jesus GAG. No judgement, huh
So it has nothing to do with what "a dick" might be attached to? Not to mention, this is a matter of personal sexual taste. That's the way he is. It's not the way you are. Or I am. Why judge it? He's actually careful not to judge it, but only says it turns him off personally. And personally, I have a problem with people who are judgmental of others sexual preferences.
So I don't judge GaGa for his preferences, nor you for yours. But I do judge you for your judging of his preferences. Get it?
Posted By: hotplants
By your logic, if I get turned on by anything other than lesbians, I must be heterosexual.
I actually like gay male porn. Some of it's really hot. Am I really a gay man in denial?....lol...
Jesus GAG. No judgement, huh?
If you, or GAG, or anyone else believes you're "not judging", you are in some serious denial. The argument here is that any man who gets turned on by even looking at TS is Gay. Period.
Most men (nearly all, dare I say it) are turned on by lesbians. Are they actually lesbians and don't know it? I said I find gay male porn hot. Those penis' are attached to men. In fact, they are penises attached to men fucking other men. And, yet.....nope...I'm still not heterosexual. Or a gay man.
Do you really not see the complete fallibility in your logic? Or, are you going to try to sell the idea that this crazy logic only applies to men
Let me be clear. I was responding to the part of GaGa's post where he simply said trannies turned him off but he was not judging gay sex. You were clearly responding to a different part of his post. Pardon me if we talked past each other. Personally, I don't think anyone who plays with a tranny on occasion is gay. I've never done it but not that there's anything wrong with that. I don't like judgmental people. And you sounded judgmental. When GaGa says anyone who samples a tranny is gay, that's judgmental, too. Am I completely clear now? You and GaGa are both judgmental cocksuckers. Oh, that's not right! Neither of you suck cock! I guess you have more in common than you thought. Now, please, go fuck yourself, you judgmental cunt. How 'bout that, sweety?
I see we've transitioned from adult discussion to poo slinging....(did you get the pun there nick...lol)..
carry on..
Wassamatter plants? Never read "Lady Chatterley's Lover?" You should. Please see below.
PS: I just went back and read my last post and thought it was pretty funny. Also, please note I called Gambler a cocksucker and he doesn't seem terribly offended. Now tell us, were you born without a sense of humor or was it surgically removed at an early age? LOL!
"Th'art good cunt, though, aren't ter? Best bit o' cunt left on earth. When ter likes! When tha'rt willin'!'
`What is cunt?' she said.
`An' doesn't ter know? Cunt! It's thee down theer; an' what I get when I'm i'side thee, and what tha gets when I'm i'side thee; it's a` as it is, all on't.'
`All on't,' she teased. `Cunt! It's like fuck then.'
`Nay nay! Fuck's only what you do. animals fuck. But cunt's a lot more than that. It's thee, dost see: an' tha'rt a lot besides an animal, aren't ter? - even ter fuck? Cunt! Eh, that's the beauty o' thee, lass!'"
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I really need to get with this girl, if only she'd come to NY.
I LUST........
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Gemma Coreana
For COCK all the time, in my mouth, in my cunt & in my ass!!! LUST is a MUST in my LIFESTYLE!!! ..... 
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From www.TERenglishdictionary.com
les·bi·an (lzb-n)
n.
1. A native or inhabitant of Lesbos.
2. The ancient Greek dialect of Lesbos.
3. A woman who finds the existence of straight males intolerable. Especially white ones.
adj.
Of, relating to, or being a man-hater
synonyms:
heterophobe, mysandrist, judgemental cunt, reverse racist
She loves to describe herself as a true Lesbian. But in fact she's bi. And married to a cross dresser. What a kinkstress.
I may be a gay male..... or a lesbian.... or straight. It is all confusing as I watch so much differing porn.
I am going to counseling now.
Posted By: hotplants
By your logic, if I get turned on by anything other than lesbians, I must be heterosexual.
I actually like gay male porn. Some of it's really hot. Am I really a gay man in denial?....lol...
Jesus GAG. No judgement, huh?
I see women only. I don't judge others. I tolerate all lifestyles, races and beliefs. My life, beliefs and morals are mine, I will not impose them on others. As the hypocratic oath begins, first do no harm and it is all I ask of anyone.
have a desire for TS providers, but, damn, if you have ever viewed some of their pics, some of them are hot......minus the penis of course.
It looks like FIDIOT is going to win in a landslide.
Good thing I was the one booking the action and the one betting. I would have lost a bundle as you appeared to have it clinched way back in June. Oh well, it's nice to be the book sometimes. lol
That's kind of my long winded way of agreeing with you.
Don't give up on Dungy. He's clown to the core. Here he is, all dressed up.
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But I also know some guys asked TER to remove their reviews of TS providers because they are afraid some providers will not see them. Many providers think guys who see TS providers carry more health risks although I don't know if there is enough data to back up their concerns.
I wonder if that means I'm.... Oh no! I am, I gotta be. Shit shit Ah ah ah Gotta shave my legs, too hairy too hairy But I like beer! I do like beer! but the hotdogs, the hotdogs shit shit too phallic push these thoughts away Ah ah
If someone sees both biologically born females and TS women, I would simply assume that they explore a lot and they're not afraid of following what they think they may like, and that fits the type of character in a person whom I'd want to see. Why not meet with them? As long as they're always safe
Not for me ! Never went on the board once have 0 interest in doing so.
Also the lesbians on television mostly fat ugly women who refuse to diet and exercise so getting a man is hard for them so they opt for other fugly girls .
Hottt girls that dabble are a different story , nothing wrong with straight girls wanting to know what guys like and partaking in other hotttt girls on occasion !
Posted By: Pink_tutu
I am going to preface this with saying that I, myself, am a true bisexual. At one time, I planned on marrying a women. So I am 200% for gay rights, gay equality and standing up for the LGBTQ community.
BUT I have a question, well sort of a question. I want to hear everyone's opinions.
I think that the TS girls are TOTALLY different from regular providers. They are categorized with us, we compete against them to get a spot in the top 100 and they are viewed as though they are women.
And I get it, if that is your thing - more power to you! BUT I just don't think, that a regular provider and a TS provider should be categorized the same way. I think they should have their own top 100, and that TER should differentiate from them and us just a tad bit more.
Also - I am wondering - ladies if you found out that a client sees TS girls regularly, would you still see him? Would it bother you? Do you think its hot? Would you do a double with a TS girl?
Guys, how many of you visit TS girls? How many of you dont? Do you see it as being the same as a regular girl?
Recently, someone I know killed himself, because he was cheating on his wife with TS providers. He was so ashamed that he killed himself because he didn't want it to get out.
So guys, are you ashamed of it ? Will you actually admit you do it?
I don't think this topic has really been discussed. At least not from what I have seen. It may come up on the TS board, but I want to know the general populations opinions.
Please share!
I enjoy eating pussy far too much to enjoy a TS. But there's always the outside chance one is out there who would interest me. I've never been ashamed of anything I've done so I wouldn't feel guilty about it. Secretive perhaps, though that's my default setting.
but wouldn't have a problem as a bisexual in trying it out. Some TS turn me on.
I sort of agree that they should have their own top 100 if pre-op. I have gotten into arguments with people on here before that if she is post-op, she shouldn't have to disclose what she once was. If you are going to change sexes, make sure you look damn hot in the end!!! You are paying a lot of money, so it should be done right.
I had a moment on a few reviews back of mine where I was concerned that I would get backlash as I had seen a guy who pretty well only reviews TS gals. Seriously guys can be big asses on that! Well, as of yet I haven't had any backlash. I wasn't aware of his review history and wouldn't have cared, but in the best interest of my business... I would have asked him not to review me. He can give an excellent review, but it can fuck up my business too.
I don't think most guys would admit to it as they feel ashamed. We live in a world where it is mainly ok for two girls.... but not two guys (or perceived two guys).
I don't agree with being with a TS is being gay. They look like women.... not much different then me pegging your butt. Now if the TS looks manly then I would agree.
Edited to add: I don't care if a guy sees TS gals, as I use protection... so why would I care?
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And what is a 'regular' provider, anyway?
Is it the type of service, or the physicality that bothers you? If the services, TS providers appeal to a unique market, sure. Then again, so do providers who offer BD/SM or fetish experiences. And, when you break it down, those services are not all that different. At a certain level, a BJ is a BJ and penetration is penetration.
If it's just the physicality--the penis--that distinguishes a TS provider from a regular provider, what about providers who wear dildos and peg their male clients? Should blond spinners with enhanced breasts be separated from BBW brunettes with natural breasts? What about providers who offer prostate massage? Is a prostate massage somehow different when executed by a human with a vagina?
And what if the provider is post-op? No penis. How do we categorize that?
The only issue I see is in not offering full disclosure. Not because *I* think there needs to be overt separation and distinction of some kind of sexual "otherness". But I do think there are men that, if surprised, could become violent.
Other than that, if a TS provider is garnering enough positive reviews to be included in the top 100, great. The only competition you have there is from another provider, who offers the same services 'regular' providers do
Once a Year not EVERYDAY ?
Posted By: hotplants
And what is a 'regular' provider, anyway?
Is it the type of service, or the physicality that bothers you? If the services, TS providers appeal to a unique market, sure. Then again, so do providers who offer BD/SM or fetish experiences. And, when you break it down, those services are not all that different. At a certain level, a BJ is a BJ and penetration is penetration.
If it's just the physicality--the penis--that distinguishes a TS provider from a regular provider, what about providers who wear dildos and peg their male clients? Should blond spinners with enhanced breasts be separated from BBW brunettes with natural breasts? What about providers who offer prostate massage? Is a prostate massage somehow different when executed by a human with a vagina?
And what if the provider is post-op? No penis. How do we categorize that?
The only issue I see is in not offering full disclosure. Not because *I* think there needs to be overt separation and distinction of some kind of sexual "otherness". But I do think there are men that, if surprised, could become violent.
Other than that, if a TS provider is garnering enough positive reviews to be included in the top 100, great. The only competition you have there is from another provider, who offers the same services 'regular' providers do.
The client was hers who wanted to experience an Asian... (I've never actually have had the courage to look at "IT" aka her Cock) She's one of my Besties aka friend.. She lives her life as a female.. But I do understand they aren't fully a female... But As stated by someone on this thread-a Provider is a provider...
I have seen some of the hottest guys make appointments with her... I don't get it but respect the lufestyle... I'm sorta jealous of the hot guys tho....
I want to tell those Hot Guys aka Tranny Chasers:Ill fuck you with a strap if ur looking for a cock experience lol.. Ill let u fuck my asshole... But decisions are respected.. Everyone has choices that's why it's called HOBBYING!!!
IM HORNY!!! Lol
Xox
It's the ultimate bait and switch otherwise.
I don't think it matters or I don't care. Who are we to judge. It's like a fetish....some guys like to cum on women's feet....Who am I to say that's wrong or weird. Whatever floats your boat. I have seen a threesome provider couple. I wanted to see what is was like to be with a couple and it was fun. The focus was on the girl but it was fun to watch him fuck and suck her (turn on for me). Bottom line.....don't judge. Look at where we are having this discussion....again, don't judge and have an open mind.
If you don't, you are not subverting the cruel heterosexual phallocracy!
And if you aren't actively subverting the cruel heterosexual phallocracy you are complicit in it's crimes!
People! Throw off your false consciousness! You have nothing to lose but your sense of humor
Are u the pitcher or the catcher on the "switch hitters" ? I'm not a politician so I don't have to PRETEND gay is okay !
Posted By: skarphedin
If you don't, you are not subverting the cruel heterosexual phallocracy!
And if you aren't actively subverting the cruel heterosexual phallocracy you are complicit in it's crimes!
People! Throw off your false consciousness! You have nothing to lose but your sense of humor!
Know what the fuck they mean , but they sure are purdy !
Posted By: skarphedin
tip toe through the tulips on a fall day in my tutu , I will tip toe through the tulips in my tutu also in may , Come and join me , while I sing of the joyous day !
Behind closed doors where it belongs , u wanna be gay 4 u . But why the need for approval ? And why the assumption that most other guys care , cause really we don't !
Posted By: Pink_tutu
I am going to preface this with saying that I, myself, am a true bisexual. At one time, I planned on marrying a women. So I am 200% for gay rights, gay equality and standing up for the LGBTQ community.
BUT I have a question, well sort of a question. I want to hear everyone's opinions.
I think that the TS girls are TOTALLY different from regular providers. They are categorized with us, we compete against them to get a spot in the top 100 and they are viewed as though they are women.
And I get it, if that is your thing - more power to you! BUT I just don't think, that a regular provider and a TS provider should be categorized the same way. I think they should have their own top 100, and that TER should differentiate from them and us just a tad bit more.
Also - I am wondering - ladies if you found out that a client sees TS girls regularly, would you still see him? Would it bother you? Do you think its hot? Would you do a double with a TS girl?
Guys, how many of you visit TS girls? How many of you dont? Do you see it as being the same as a regular girl?
Recently, someone I know killed himself, because he was cheating on his wife with TS providers. He was so ashamed that he killed himself because he didn't want it to get out.
So guys, are you ashamed of it ? Will you actually admit you do it?
I don't think this topic has really been discussed. At least not from what I have seen. It may come up on the TS board, but I want to know the general populations opinions.
Please share!
Moses led the oppressed Jew out of bondage . People in the 21st century still under the rule of dictators are oppressed, fucking dudes with dicks in their asses are not oppressed ! And fugly women who want other fugly women and hate men are not oppressed ! Their WHINERS ! geeeez who do use pretty words but don't know how to apply them properly
If you click your heels together it may make you feel better ! Yeah I'm fucking sick of listening to gay whiners every fucking day on the news ! Who gives a shit ! Insecure assholes looking for approval for what they do and how they live , again who fucking cares ! And pushing a gay lifestyle on teens is creepy ! They should just be kids ! So fuck the gay movement !!!!! Got it
Ultimately, they offer something different than a biological women - a penis. If TER found there's a reason to create a separate ad board, why not a separate list? There may be some men who specifically want to seek out the top 100 TS providers, but have to sift through biological ladies that they may not be interested in. Why not make it easier to find the best of TS without going thru all this work? And via versa for men who seek the opposite.
That's my opinion, besides I don't feel TS providers and biological ladies should ever be considered one in the same for several reasons
As long as everybody knows their place, we will all get along just fine.
Since TER has created a separate forum for TS providers, they get their own top 100 list.
But TER has also separated other groups into separate forums. So why not break out a top 100 list for Asia? And Germany. And K-Girls. And BDSM? And Porn Stars?
In fact, why not separate BBBJ from CBJ? And there could be a separate top 100 for those who looking for a trip to greece. Or golden showers. And those under 23. Those over 110 LB's. Massage. Massage with french?, or....
These guys who spend their entire life on the GD board don't have time to do all that work filtering for a particular kind of provider
because the person will always have man hands, and I am very much into manual contact by my sexual partner
