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Jack_Inhoff2259 reads

Would anyone be caught dead "liking" TER's Facebook page.....especially if he or she is Facebook "friends" with family, real-life friends, co-workers, and former or current bosses?  That would be pretty risky, don't you think? Holy cow!

"Following" it on Twitter is less dangerous, because one can be more anonymous on that social media site.

HooktardGold1958 reads

You are misinformed about Twitter security too. I had my account hacked in less than a month. Luckily, I never had even one conversation about this business over the message system, nor did I post naked photos, just begging to be reported and passed around my community. Do these women really think that even putting their profile on private helps? HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. Ok. If hackers can get into global, multi-billion dollar companies' database and steal their financial info. you are an absolute FOOL to think amateurs like Twitter and Facebook can't also be hacked.  

Can't wait to see the next website with copies of those so called private messages between hooker and john, they assumed were so secure lol. Fail. Usiing social media for an illegal business is pure hooktard gold! "Gee, how did I get busted" lol.  



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One of the big-name bitches here got her ass busted via twatter. Nothing like putting your illegal activities out there for all the world to see. LE anyone?

Now where people want to make sure it crosses over...then it is on them  

You'd be amazed how often the guys and gals end up outing themselves in that manner.

Best to let the twitter nation and facebook enthusiasts have at it...then they come here to cry about how they got caught  LOL

AnotherDonJohn1665 reads

C.o, this is the most off base you have been that I can remember.  

My extreme example is that many ps escorts and providers try to pass themselves off in legit services (personal trainer, model, personal assistant) on LinkedIn. They then try to "connect " with me. There is basically no way I will accept those as it opens them up to all my professional contacts. God forbid, I "recommend" them as I have sometimes seen. I would probably lose my job in an instant as soon as HR catches wind

CPA and ADJ on this one, Courtney.  

The TOR network, secure email and hobby phones...

Not what I have on FB or G+. Not to mention, FB is truly annoying. I cringe at the thought of "linking in".  

And I still think you're "The Bomb".  :-)

I think Facebook is a lose-lose forum. At one time I had an account, but I really don't care that Aunt Jennifer had Corn Flakes for breakfast, or that Cousin Phil is now friends with someone I don't know or care to know. I also don't like that my coworkers could follow my private family life, especially with some of the idiots in my family posting stupid shit on their page that is now linked to me. No some things need to remain private, I'm a Project Lead, with direct reports and having that kind of crap could unfairly contribute to them losing a level of professional respect. Nothing to gain, only a losing proposition. So, I cancelled/deleted my account, but to answer your question hell no if I still had a FB account I wouldn't like TER. I think TER is awesome, I'll always have an open account, I'm a completely satisfied customer. But as with the hobby, discretion is paramount and the only place I talk about TER is within TER.

Posted By: Jack_Inhoff
Would anyone be caught dead "liking" TER's Facebook page.....especially if he or she is Facebook "friends" with family, real-life friends, co-workers, and former or current bosses?  That would be pretty risky, don't you think? Holy cow!  
   
 "Following" it on Twitter is less dangerous, because one can be more anonymous on that social media site.

Cosette1807 reads

Financially, I can't believe tax dollars would go to such a "problem" when we have so many to deal with as it is.

Morally, I want to punch anyone in the face who interlocks trafficking with escorting, as the NJ Rep did. It's just as awful as the busts that occurred here due to the Super Bowl.

The one thing I will admit is there's a difference in marketing and pure advertising. To have key words that can easily be searched is silly, you can always allude to it without being blatant.

I use Twitter to follow people I'd never get to meet but sound interesting.

I do have FEW accounts and on face book and on Linkied in and on twitter..

actually  two for each
 one is real life info and real employment eduction family freinds  
 and other ones as
One is Serafima Love on linked in  
empty with no info just occupation accounting and "looking around purpose" with no any websites and other escorts ever .. around  
 just  for screening - then I remove connection after I see who he is  
 and other one on face book as Olga  
 H  
 also not advertising heavily porno things.. just men freinds there who have like mind and NOT like mind interests ..
 just men allowed there too sorry .. so  
am I missing something  and  your freinds and family may still find out   that you are on social network with woman whom you are going pay for her private time?

no need to say all that connected for other my emails... not escorting nor my real life  
 I can say there all openly ..
of course refereeing to TER privately  so of course I think you do not have double accounts as I do .. but being on my Linked in for screening - you will not stay there long any way  and even you would - no one will gets what it is about ..
 as to facebook - just  random not known  model somehow on your account ... or even random model on fae with no pussy ass pic and no adds  would  be  hard to explain .. ??
 then I have other OTHER advice f or men .. but if I post I again afraid to promote some negativism and ( as compromise wife a bit  with her social network blaming just google  and you are forgiven )
 so .. what I am missing about privacy an creating few accounts real and non real .it is easy ....

The first step is removing the taboo, showing the human side of us workers and our clients and removing this idea that trafficking and sex work are equally harmful industries. Of course, discretion is still paramount, but, as an out worker, personally, I'm happy to use social media to talk about my work and the industry and also as a platform of activism for the rights of my fellow workers and the issues with trafficking. Would I like TER on Facebook? Probably not, since my Facebook is obviously linked to my real name and I'd feel unsafe linking my legal name to my work life, but, and maybe this is my age talking, social media is totally the wave and I'm glad we're able to utilize it as escorts to connect to both clients and the real world.

If we want to do it, why is it exploitation? It's exploitation when they publicly humiliate a woman and publicly shame her for doing this… putting her face in pictures on the internet.. which, by the way, causes danger to her because stalkers now know what she looks like, where she lives, etc. etc

Until this is legalized and some level of socially accepted...those who wish it so can and do use the other social media outlets.

But that is not likely to happen for a long time...just how long is anyone's guess.

Thinking that social media is the way to make this socially acceptable is a fools errand.  Seems we have no shortage of fools who accept this challenge  LOL

Posted By: Courtney.ova
If we want to do it, why is it exploitation? It's exploitation when they publicly humiliate a woman and publicly shame her for doing this… putting her face in pictures on the internet.. which, by the way, causes danger to her because stalkers now know what she looks like, where she lives, etc. etc.  
   
 

Cosette1662 reads

By being relatable, by being accessible through social media, by saying, this is what I think. To anyone who underestimates how much people want to feel like they know someone, I say, an election was won by this phenomenon.  

You give people access to the wholesomeness and reality of what good escorts can be and you've got people who have the guts to say "yes I support this".  

And even if they are fools, the world needs fools. Thanks Steve Jobs.  

Damn coconut margaritas.

And I will also agree that many are corrupt and do illegal things.

HOWEVER...the appearance and acceptance of a campaign using social media is quite common.  And has been forever...go to the Newseum in DC and read some of the old papers (going back to the 17th century).

Selling pussy is fine on this site...and private websites that don't have underage kids on them.

I'm glad that you're so enthusiastic to see prostitution be legalized...but I think you'll have a pretty tough agenda to get acceptance at a social level.  Best of luck on that quest  LOL

We should thank Steve Jobs for what exactly?

Posted By: Cosette
By being relatable, by being accessible through social media, by saying, this is what I think. To anyone who underestimates how much people want to feel like they know someone, I say, an election was won by this phenomenon.  
   
 You give people access to the wholesomeness and reality of what good escorts can be and you've got people who have the guts to say "yes I support this".  
   
 And even if they are fools, the world needs fools. Thanks Steve Jobs.  
   
 Damn coconut margaritas.

Cosette1678 reads

There's plenty of developed countries that accept it. It's simply a matter of money and changing minds to be a slight majority.  

I mentioned Steve Jobs because of his powerful speech about being foolish enough to create change.  

It may be a fuck board but the power of sex is strong. It is a potential source for change in this country

I'm guessing that Marius head butted you this morning during his BBBJCIM...and that caused you some issues.

17th century periodicals and papers were all they had to go on...hence they were significantly more powerful than todays options.  The amount of propaganda that was used was powerful...don't kid yourself.  But from your continued diatribe on this topic...you do kid yourself...A LOT.

Sex has been around forever...hence even your presence here...as in thank Mom and Dad for fucking.  Acceptance of P4P is the issue...NOT sex.  But keep on fighting the good fight...I do hope you succeed.

Steve Jobs was an entrepreneur, an innovator, a creative sort.  He wasn't looking to make change to accommodate those who didn't want or need the change.  He was in the right place at the right time.  I would suggest that had he been born 100 years ago he may have invented new technologies of the day.

But those that shared Jobs' vision are to be congratulated....most importantly the VC guys who made it really happen.

Perhaps you can put together a portfolio that will excite some Wall Street VC dudes?  Then you may be onto something.

Posted By: Cosette
There's plenty of developed countries that accept it. It's simply a matter of money and changing minds to be a slight majority.  
   
 I mentioned Steve Jobs because of his powerful speech about being foolish enough to create change.  
   
 It may be a fuck board but the power of sex is strong. It is a potential source for change in this country.  
   
 

Cosette1854 reads

I'm out.  

I just want people to be happy. We're here for such a short time

significant impact.

But since you want to believe what you want to believe...it is what it is.

If you make it to DC...go and educate yourself.  You'll be amazed.

Posted By: Cosette
I'm out.  
   
 I just want people to be happy. We're here for such a short time.  
   
 

Rumor has it that Mary Magdalene ended up in southern France where she continued preaching her gospels till her death.  And seems like her gospels were also conveniently left out of the New Testament  LOL

But I can understand how my dearest Cosette confused me with Jesus.  He was an antagonist as well...who had delusions of changing why the Temple in Jerusalem became the Mall of America.  Not to mention he wanted to get rid of the money changers...same as with the 1% revolution here.

Seems nothing has really changed  LOL

It's viral. People lose everything because of one sentence put on FB, Twitter, etc. Very dangerous, and all you have to do is slip up once and you've lost a job, kids, husband, family, etc. SM can also, if used without discretion, expose information that can then be investigated by the curious mind.

I understand the desire to make prostitution legal… I also know it can become a terrible tragedy by putting prostitution in the hands of young ones who don't know how to handle the information. It becomes so glorified that they become blind to the dangers and consequences of the job.

I actually feel that the dangers of the job and the misfortunes broadcasted all over the media are over done --- but are they? It says "PROCEED WITH CAUTION!" There's something good in it.

While media misrepresents the people who go about this the way it should be done, it does have some truth when it is done improperly. Just like Ice Cream Social Tuesday at school. If 25% of the kids were taking the ice cream and throwing it at the walls, do you think the school would continue giving the kids ice cream every Tuesday? Absolutely not. I don't know the stats, but from what I've seen and heard, i would assume more than 25% aren't screening properly, nor are they going about their business in a safe, effective manner, discreetly for hers and John's sake --- and also for the sake of the children across the hall at the hotel.

I'm not 100% against the regulations. I get that trying to completely stop something to avoid violence, drugs, murder, rape is the best they can do right now. Would legalizing this give LE a better handle on safely administering sexual services? Would it really minimize child trafficking? Probably not.

Now if it were legalized, schools and licensing services can better teach people how to do this properly.

The world's people have not changed.

 
The times change... People don't

HooktardGold1831 reads

LMAO. Sorry kiddo, but using the word "wholesome" in the same sentence as hookers who sell ass by the hour, no less, is fkin hilarious. Ask the wives of the husbands you are paid to fk, how "wholesome" they think you are.  
   
 So I guess if I start posting about doing other illegal things with my face and address on Twitter, that's a move to it becoming legal and accepted vs. putting a bullseye on my ass? LMAO ok.  That's how absurd that argument is. TER is not breaking the law... we are. Big difference. You are mixing your viewpoint with sites that are NOT designed to promote illegal activities, nor are they for adults only.  

That's about as dumb as going to your child's nursery school and asking if you can walk around half naked whilst yellng "There is nothing wrong with me... it's wholesome." Some people simply have no respect for others. Get a clue. Just because you think selling your ass should be legal, does not mean you broadcast that view in front of CHILDREN. Other adults... sure, but they can laugh in your face.  
   
There is a REASON adult sites require you be an ADULT to play on them... facebook and twitter do not require this, yet children can be exposed to a plethora of disgusting crap. If facebook and Twitter were only for adults, my view would be totally moot, as it would not matter what you put up there.  
   
 


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but sometimes you sound like a dumb ass.

Cosette1538 reads

You've know the ins and outs of escorting. I know the ins and outs of corporate working. I respect you. Don't get me wrong.  

I have a professional dream but no responsibilities except financial ones.  

This activity isn't immoral.  

That's all.

And given that you're only 30 (or so you claim), you never experienced shit in the Corporate world...other than perhaps some junior level crap.

And you can scream all day long how prostitution isn't immoral...and I agree that it isn't.  It is however illegal...that is fact.

So if you are OK with exposing kids to this via social media, then you are indeed part of the problem that the media discusses.  And with the advent of online options for kids to explore, it is people like YOU that create the issues of immorality.

What you do behind closed doors is none of anyones business...take it mainstream and you have a much different issue.

As for how Corporate America sees this....it is an illegal activity that has to be hidden.  If you don't like that, oh well.  I guess it's good that you're now a hooker and not some junior VP somewhere.  I don't think you'd like the way that would turn out.

Posted By: Cosette
You've know the ins and outs of escorting. I know the ins and outs of corporate working. I respect you. Don't get me wrong.  
   
 I have a professional dream but no responsibilities except financial ones.  
   
 This activity isn't immoral.  
   
 That's all.

HooktardGold1689 reads

I never said just this activity was immoral... I said broadcasting your ass and beliefs on a format that children play, IS. I know about both escorting and working in the real world, and I was never dumb enough to be so oblivious regarding the things I posted on the internet that could get me into trouble. I did not exactly major in fashion design, in which case, not many people would give a shit what I did before working in that industry.  

Whether you want to admit it or not, you are supporting adultery and encouraging others to do so, including children.  Bravo. You can support the 'rights' of sex workers without yelling at the world to accept the fact that you get off on fkin married men. You claim this is a victimless crime, but how many wives and children would agree?  I am looking at this from ALL sides... you seem to only be able to see it from the hooker's side.  

It's one thing to participate and support something that should not be illegal, but it's another thing for you to expect the world, including minors, to listen to that drivel. No, the business should not be illegal, but you're not only saying that. You are saying it should be out in the open at every damn venue where children are subjected to it.  

Even if it was legal, many escorts with a brain would still practice discretion if for no other reason than protecting the married men they see.  No, doing it is not at all immoral depending on which side you look at it from (the hooker side only, so it appears), but not giving a shit about who has to see your so blantant views, is both immoral and absurd. That is, and was, my ONLY dog in this fight.  

I do think taking a stand will produce change, but I disagree with the venue some choose to do it on. You literally claimed Obama was elected because of social media, when there is simply NO possible way for you to make that claim. He was elected because of votes, and if you look at the dominant races in each state that he had the most supporters, you will find how wrong you are.

Obama's team ran a good campaign, that started in Tunisia.

Events in America had nothing to do with securing President Obama's second term.

Stay the fuck off the social media sites, whilst hooking.

 
The tech geeks will find you with out them.

HooktardGold1722 reads

I used 'you' in the universal sense. I simply have zero respect for people who don't regard our children or their own... that's pretty much it. I have no problems with a platform that speaks about making this business legal, but showing your tits and ass on sites where kids can view them is far from making a point about this being illegal. It just makes you look EXACTLY like the media points out.  

They call prostitutes reckless, oblivious, say we don't care about who we hurt or offend, and well... some certainly prove them right. I am proud NOT to be one of those people. You can be an escort and still have some common sense and respect for yourself and minors... not doing so, just proves how undecauted and ignorant you really are. If you want the media to stop painting you like that, try acting like a discreet adult.  

Again, using 'you' in the universal sense. :)

Twitter and Facebook reserve the right to have what they want, and don't want on their sites.

This whole "what about the children" bullshit always gets on my nerves. What about the damn parents?

You realize there's absolutely nothing stopping a child from finding this or any other escorting site, right? Hell, all a kid needs is to click the wrong link on Tumblr and there will be porn. It's the job of parents to keep track of what their kids are exposed to and not the responsibility of escorts to shelter said children from finding something bad on Twitter or Facebook. I've got very young cousins, so I definitely take into account what would happen if they found me naked online, but, their parents also make sure they're not motivated to seek shit like that out. Porn is literally everywhere online, hell, there are minors posting their tits to their 10,000 Instagram followers as I type. That's not my problem, it's the parents who need to deal with that and who are failing. But I'm a grown ass woman with plenty of respect for myself who is perfectly fine posting my tits and ass online, and as long as the terms of a particular site does not condemn it explicitly (Facebook doesn't allow nudity anyway), then I'm well within my rights to do so.
 

Posted By: HooktardGold
I used 'you' in the universal sense. I simply have zero respect for people who don't regard our children or their own... that's pretty much it. I have no problems with a platform that speaks about making this business legal, but showing your tits and ass on sites where kids can view them is far from making a point about this being illegal. It just makes you look EXACTLY like the media points out.  
   
 They call prostitutes reckless, oblivious, say we don't care about who we hurt or offend, and well... some certainly prove them right. I am proud NOT to be one of those people. You can be an escort and still have some common sense and respect for yourself and minors... not doing so, just proves how undecauted and ignorant you really are. If you want the media to stop painting you like that, try acting like a discreet adult.  
   
 Again, using 'you' in the universal sense. :)

HooktardGold1728 reads

then you might have a point. I don't care what you do with your ass, but don't toss it in the face of children. How's that, hon? No, you don't have respect for yourself, and that's been proven. You are totally correct in that 'you can do what you want,' but guess what... others can call you a fkin IDIOT for doing it too.  

My child has never been on the internet, thank you, but when that time comes, I certainly hope she never runs into sorry ass hookers like you who have no regard for anyone but yourself. So, JB would you show your boss your facebook page? Would you hire strippers for a toddlers's bday party? If not, you're a fkin hypocrite, because you're doing the exact same thing... putting your stuff in places where it can be seen by anyone. I also find it utterly hilarious that it's always the under 30 crowd who is this stupid... says it all. Please don't reproduce, because you have no clue about protecting or raising a child.  

 I have news for you... your young cousins are not going to be with their parents 24/7 and there is only so much control a parent has over a child's free will... if you had one, you would know that. Children born to parents who are seriously anti-drugs, can still end up being addicts, but what you're saying is we should be putting the stuff at every corner oblivious to who sees it. I actually hope your cousins do find you on the net, because it would cause you to look in the mirror. If you were not there to begin with, they would have never saw you.  

The point is not that a child 'can' find their way to a site SPECIFICALLY designed for adult content... that's a given only am amateur would have to point out to feel better about what they HAVE TO DO to get business lol. The point is, that adult material has no business being mixed with sites not designated for that purpose. Hell, even Hollywood says you have to be 18 to see certain movies and it's enforced... why do you think that is? Why do you have to be 18 to be an escort, get in a bar, and 21 to get in a Casino? I rest my case. Nice try to justify your ignorance though. You are the epitome of the careless, indiscreet hooker portrayed in the media, so the next time you want to bitch about why all escorts are painted a certain way, kindly refer back to your stupidity.  

It's clear you have no regard for anyone, and probably don't even have family that gives two shits about you... why else would you have to work on Christmas day? Uh, yah. So sad for you.  

 

 



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What about the children bullshit? WOW! That has to be the most fucked up statement I have ever heard! We ALL should do EVERYTHING we can to protect them!  
Those site DONT have an age restriction at all.  Whatever floats your boat I guess but damn people like YOU are a major part of the problem! So what would you do if your little cousins found you? Would you atleast try to protect them? Geez I hate that these "bullshit" post get on your nerves BUT people that have no reguard for the kids really piss me off! The kids ARE our future and I agree that you should never reproduce.

FB does not allow nude pics? maybe not but your site does and it is the first hooker site I have EVER seen that does NOT have an age restriction either. So I guess you really don't give a rats ass about what kids are being exposed to. YOUR site is YOUR responsibility NOT the parents!

HooktardGold1886 reads

She's just an ignorant child herself, so don't go too hard on her... when she gets outed or busted, she'll be right back on TER crying about it. She was the very same person who boasted about how educated she was, how she would not be a hooker in five years, bla bla bla, yet her every post shows how careless and clueless she really is. I mean there was a teacher who was fired from her job for nothing more than entering a wet T Shirt contest (legally and in a bar where everyone was over 18) mind you, and this tart thinks broadcasting ILLEGAL shit to the world is smart and won't have any fall out? Yah, educated my ass lol.  

She also makes it pretty damn easy for ANYONE, including hotel staff and LE to recognize her... no discretion there either. The soccer moms are going to have a field day digging up her past and posts, and she'll wonder why her so called business has failed leaving her here a lot longer than planned. Hate it when that happens. Can't exactly run a business when all the customers refuse to spend money, knowing all about your past lol.  

 
JB, you do realize that your escort photos connect to a couple of your real ones, right? Ever hear of facial recognition software? Sorry about that, but ANY photo you have on the net can be linked to others... you know, like on your facebook, when or if you ever get an award for something business related, your picture makes the paper, you cut that pretty ribbon on a new building, etc. I've heard of clients being busted this way because they had a pic on P411 and some crazy hooktard linked it up with a professional photo on the company website... ooops.  

Anyone can google your name, face, etc. and find out everything they need to totally ruin you. You claim you're not worried because you are in business for yourself, but you do need customers... some of which are women whose husbands you have fked and who have children you've so carelessly exposed to your bs without being discreet about it. You really have no clue about what some women will go through to harm you when they have been scorned, but I have an idea you're going to have to face that one day. I feel very sorry for you and anyone who gets too close to you, because you are dangerous in your ignorance.  

 



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So EVERY escort who shows her face and uses hotels is ignorant and lacks common sense? Okay.  

I'm not worried about being outed, I already said above that I am out, and that includes with my family. Should my little cousins find out, it's no issue for their mother, who was an escort long before I was even born, to explain sex work and why it's okay. Why are you so into sheltering children from it? If a child is mature enough to understand sex, I see no issue explaining to them about sex work. But maybe that's just the way I was raised: I'm not ashamed, and, even though I do show my face, my discretion and that of my clients has never been an issue. I have obviously made mistakes in the past, but clearly I didn't come into the business with all the possible information, so, sure, was I ignorant before? Absolutely. Have I fixed those mistakes and moved the hell on? Yup.

And I absolutely won't be a hooker in five years. For someone who claims to lead another full life you sure don't seem to understand that others can do and have the same.

I don't broadcast illegal shit. I don't talk about services or what I do in my sessions. THAT would be stupid, and I'm not quite the retard you think I am. The only social media I use as an escort is my blog, but I see no issue with using Twitter or Vine or Instagram. I already said I wouldn't use my Facebook so keep attacking me for shit I never said, but I'm going to ignore it.  

Posted By: HooktardGold
She's just an ignorant child herself, so don't go too hard on her... when she gets outed or busted, she'll be right back on TER crying about it. She was the very same person who boasted about how educated she was, how she would not be a hooker in five years, bla bla bla, yet her every post shows how careless and clueless she really is. I mean there was a teacher who was fired from her job for nothing more than entering a wet T Shirt contest (legally and in a bar where everyone was over 18) mind you, and this tart thinks broadcasting ILLEGAL shit to the world is smart and won't have any fall out? Yah, educated my ass lol.  
   
 She also makes it pretty damn easy for ANYONE, including hotel staff and LE to recognize her... no discretion there either. The soccer moms are going to have a field day digging up her past and posts, and she'll wonder why her so called business has failed leaving her here a lot longer than planned. Hate it when that happens. Can't exactly run a business when all the customers refuse to spend money, knowing all about your past lol.  
   
   
 JB, you do realize that your escort photos connect to a couple of your real ones, right? Ever hear of facial recognition software? Sorry about that, but ANY photo you have on the net can be linked to others... you know, like on your facebook, when or if you ever get an award for something business related, your picture makes the paper, you cut that pretty ribbon on a new building, etc. I've heard of clients being busted this way because they had a pic on P411 and some crazy hooktard linked it up with a professional photo on the company website... ooops.  
   
 Anyone can google your name, face, etc. and find out everything they need to totally ruin you. You claim you're not worried because you are in business for yourself, but you do need customers and your customers... some of which are women whose husbands you have fked without being discreet about it. You really have no clue about what some women will go through to harm you when they have been scorned, but I have an idea you're going to have to face that one day. I feel very sorry for you and anyone who gets too close to you, because you are dangerous in your ignorance.  
   
 

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Panthera121718 reads

You are retarded and I hope that you don't reproduce although I wouldn't be surprised if you had a half dozen of them living with Grandma.  

Some of the providers like HG and TL have an understanding of how to work in the industry while rearing  children. I can't say the same for you after reading some of the shit that you post.

Thanks for the kind words. Funny how quickly you all jump to personal insults while talking about child rearing and simultaneously calling ME a "child." The irony is not lost.

Posted By: Panthera12
You are retarded and I hope that you don't reproduce although I wouldn't be surprised if you had a half dozen of them living with Grandma.  
   
 Some of the providers like HG and TL have an understanding of how to work in the industry while rearing  children. I can't say the same for you after reading some of the shit that you post.

Panthera121544 reads

I called you retarded. The only thing that is lost is your reading comprehension and of course a gallon of lemon juice.

HooktardGold1208 reads

Look around. Also, I never claimed to have a 'full life' lol. It's obvious I only work 3-4 hours a day (remote) and will for the next six months until I have to secure a place in another state for full time status. What I said was, you are uneducated and you are. The shit you post, the things you do, contradict the actions of an intelligent person... period, end of story. I did not say ANYONE who shows their face and uses hotels is stupid, but someone like you who has such a unique look, and claiims to be in business outside of this... uh, damn right.  

Terri shows her face, but she is also not sitting here bragging about how educated she is whilst thinking that shit could not come back to haunt her one day. In fact, I just got off the phone with her, and she is moving in another direction as we speak.

I don't want to 'shelter' children from sex per se, but did you really just ask that? Sex with a mate is one thing... they know that's perfectly natural, and OMG how they came about being in the world. THAT is not what you're selling, I am afraid. I will shelter my child from careless, reckless, morons who have no regard for them, yes.  Sex is not illegal... tricking is. But, why would I want to expose my innocent child to a business that promotes adultery, lying, and crime? Just because I don't agree that it should be a crime, does not mean I am going to project that crap on my child, much less anyone else's. I don't think 420 should be illegal either, but do I talk about that with my 6 year old? I think not. Do I get on facebook and take a stand about making it legal? Um, no. Discretion....  
 
So, you would talk to a 6 year old about this industry? Would you show your six year old photos of you half naked on the internet and tell her mommy is out fkin married men for money... maybe even a man who is married to one of her friend's mothers?  Careful how you answer, because I would hate to point out more hypocrisy on your part. I am not preaching against being an escort or the business in general... I am only taking a stand for shit that should not be exposed to our youth and I will take being called a judgmental bitch for that. I would rather be that, than a fkin idiot.  

For the record, I thought your first post was very articulate and made some good points, and I do agree that social media might aid in getting the stigma off of this business, BUT not if done by people who are too stupid to know how to go about it... like you. If a person like the local gal who runs SWOT meetings in my home town got up on a platform, SHE would be well respected and well received, because she did not ever once disregard that families affected by this, actually play a part in it. She's not blind, but she does take a stand for what she believes in... equality for all businesses, and removing the criminal aspect.  

You don't get people on your side by telling them their children don't matter to you, their parents should not let them on the net when the damn sites being posted on are NOT for adults, and you'll show your ass and broadcast your shit whereever and whenever you see fit.

Even if this business did become legal, most women would still never act that way! They have self respect and respect for others around them who might not feel the same way. Gosh... would you tell someone to f off in a church, and then say they should not bring their children around there lol.  I can't believe this has to be broken down to someone who is supposed to be so intelligent. There is a time and place for everything... adult content belongs on sites WITH A CLEAR WARNING of that content for those who are 18 or older! I mean good grief, TER is not even in the U.S. and they still have a warning on the site.

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Granted that we clients are all using at least one level of alias, but providers are laying it all out there.  Some quick bucks for a VIP account and you can associate clients and providers through reviews, at least "fictionally".  Certainly some of the reviews are fake, and a lot are nothing like what really happened, but there is a lot of information there for someone to use, and not just LE.  A hack or a warrant could get IP addresses and MAC addresses and then the aliases are worthless.

Test - replace all 'media' and 'social media' with TER. (except last sentence, lol)

A stage name is used, providing an identity for a person to market him/herself. They then bring that trademark to the media --- ads, discussion boards, or anything that makes them go public over a large (or small) area. The stage name, (trademark,) and branding gets developed over media. (Think theme songs. You hear 588-2300 -- what's the next word?) Every time we type something on here, our name (trademark) pops up. If we have used the 'social media venue' properly, every time people see our name, the viewer thinks of our branding.

The media flaunts, degrades, promotes, and gets business/money for actors/musicians/politicians/large companies, etc… Social media gets the word out via socializing on the net. Each site has it's 'rules,' written and unwritten, on how to use those sites effectively. We all know this is a fuck board, selling 'ehem - "our company". lol. Media is also used for competitive purposes, giving opportunity to ruin anothers' name.

Lots of us get publicity and business through this site. The sites that work best for certain individuals is up to their discretion; however, even if a gal or guy doesn't use this site, they can still pop up on this venue from someone else, if they do something worth discussing.  

Media is plural for medium. TER is used as a medium between the seller and consumer in many ways via their own participation or the participation of others. It works well because the person can jump online, or someone can shill for them, and it starts a conversation. That person can walk away from the computer for a few hours, while the 'media' continues to work for him/her. TER does this for many, and it is a great resource for business --- if used correctly.

TER is like LinkedIn for prostitutes.

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You can easily block your IP address with TOR and make it damn near impossible to track you down. If you're paranoid like me, you come in using TOR behind a second layer of VPN redirection to make it literally impossible to track you down without NSA assistance. Oops... forgot, NSA is tracking everything.

struggles with TOR, too. If you use only a US TOR exit node, it's harder for them to have a legal basis for monitoring you or for domestic LE to legally use that info... whereas an overseas node is fair game. Also, NSA has "piggyback" servers on the major search engines and can "intercept" specific searches and searches from certain originations. You can (maybe?) avoid this by simply entering a URL directly and skipping the search engine.  I guess an extra VPN probably helps, too, along with something to spoof your MAC address.

I guess it all depends upon how paranoid you want to be.  

Same for email. I use "anonymousspeech.com". Along with TOR or VPN, of course. As secure as you can reasonably get, IMO.

Anyone who considers their buck-n-a-quarter BJ more important than respect for the "innocent" will NEVER establish my respect. There are places for everything, and everything in its place.

HooktardGold1715 reads

Um, thank you! If an asshole like you has the common sense to realize this, that says it all lol. Sorry, could not resist.

.you continue to argue with the Elite Hooktard Entitlists on the issue of common sense? You'll never convince women, who exploit money from men, that common sense should rule the day. Consider the source sweethart lol

You have to pick your battles. First off, there are obviously many who do not accept this profession, and if they find out, they'll do whatever they can to use it against someone.

Some say 'fight the good fight.' But I've got other things to fight and argue for that I couldn't fight for or make happen if I were in prison lol.

HooktardGold1609 reads

Ha, exactly. I firmly support sex work within limits, but to toss the REAL accomplishments so many 'claim' to have to broadcast selling their ass, is kind of funny. That is the very same reason I declined to speak on various platforms about sex work, and even a movie offer about it. My real life is much more important.  

No one is going to work their ass off getting an edcuation, getting promoted in the corporate world, just to toss all that by saying "I was a hooker and proud." If they do, I highly doubt they ever had anything going for them other than this. Speaking out against violence of sex workers, I could see but the buck stops there. It being legal is one thing... demanding everyone, including children,  accept it by tossing it in their face is both careless and immoral.  

I don't give two shits about morality when it comes to adults, but don't bring children into it. Only someone without a child would be that fkin stupid.  

Psst, also realize Courtney, some of these very same people think it's ok to turn tricks in their own homes... nuff said.  



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I've got many single friends who would feel the same as we are on this matter.  

It appears that you simply have a group of people who simply don't give a shit as to who sees what anywhere.  Having a kid has nothing to do with that mentality.

I also don't see this as an age issue in that many of the young gals here understand the cross-over of this world and the real world is simply not a smart thing to do.

So if Cosette and others want to put themselves out there...they are going to do so.  And "we" have the option to avoid them as well.  Clicking on a link on their site that would incorporate Twitter/FB/Instagram and so on is an option that each of us needs to take responsibility for.

But make no mistake...being a parent has nothing to do with being this...being brazen and empowered seems to have everything to do with it.  Most folks always figure "It won't happen to me".

Posted By: HooktardGold
Ha, exactly. I firmly support sex work within limits, but to toss the REAL accomplishments so many 'claim' to have to broadcast selling their ass, is kind of funny. That is the very same reason I declined to speak on various platforms about sex work, and even a movie offer about it. My real life is much more important.  
   
 No one is going to work their ass off getting an edcuation, getting promoted in the corporate world, just to toss all that by saying "I was a hooker and proud." If they do, I highly doubt they ever had anything going for them other than this. Speaking out against violence of sex workers, I could see but the buck stops there. It being legal is one thing... demanding everyone, including children, to accept it by tossing it in their face is both careless and immoral. I don't give two shits about morality when it comes to adults, but don't bring children into it. Only someone without a child would be that fkin stupid.

HooktardGold1416 reads

I wonder how some would feel if male strippers were hired for their 5 year old's bday party? If they are offended, they are hypocrites because they are doing the very same thing by posting half naked photos and illegal services on sites where children hang out. Keep in mind, stripping is NOT illegal lol.

I think you got that, but to reiterate… the consequences for being extremely open about our job is much greater than the benefit. There are, like you said, many many other things we are passionate about in our lives. (At least mine, and it looks like some others here, including you.) Kids, nephews & nieces, grandparents who will spend their last days worried about their granddaughter because she's a prostitute… and not enough time to fully educate a population that has known it wrong and dangerous for so long that you will never be able to change their viewpoint. You have to do it to understand it. It's not worth putting family through that much just to prove a point.

But what I meant, though the above has always been in the back of my mind, was that I personally have things that I stand for that are much more important to me… bigger… and I wouldn't be able to accomplish those if I were thrown in prison for advocating prostitution rights.

Make sense? I think you got it, lol.  

But it still is social media, hahaha

damn this pretty much sum it up.
Exactly nuff said! Great post :)
Hugs and kisses
TL

I have two FB accounts.  One is for the real world and the other is for Strip Clubs, Porn girls etc. Next time I log on to it I'll check out TER's page.  I'm not all that clever so I'm sure I'm not the only person who does this.

Panthera121854 reads

You may as well waive to LE and say "I am here".

Yea no shit! This is one reason I do not do FB/twitter or any of that stuff. Hey I know a lot of people that do use FB and they wont see me at all on there. Yes I do know several ladies that have been FOUND through FB (stalkers)If they can find someone so can LE! Fuck that seriously ;

HooktardGold1687 reads

those preaching about nothing being wrong or indiscreet about broadcasting ass on Twitter are the very same ones who think it's perfectly fine to turn tricks from their homes with or without children there lol. You can lead a hooker to common sense, but... :)  

I especially love the "OMG, someone found out my real name and outed me, I have a stalker, or some dude showed up at my house unannounced because I was dumb enough to let him know where I lived" threads... LOL

Yep this is exactly the same scenario I am talking about. I actually do know a lady that started getting weird anonymous gifts at her HOME and she was found on FB. This has happened to the same lady more than once (being found through FB) so you would think she would keep her ASS off FB. Like panthera said, stupid is as stupid does lol
As for people providing out of where they live? To each her own but I have never understood why in the hell anyone would do that. ESPECIALLY the ones with kids. Some of the nicest gents can turn out to be complete fucking freaks in the end so why anyone would put themselves and the kids in harms way has always baffled me.

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Your personal files can be crawled, downloaded, and used against you. Do you recall a certain 'leaks' site where no one could figure out how their photos were mysteriously being posted? I am talking photos of providers and johns with their families, pics of their houses with a google map photo linking to the address, where they worked, who their boss was, etc. Well, when you logged in, they stole your shit lol. Anyone with pics or info. for themselves, their children, spouse, or saved files concerning credit card or business info. for where they work, had all that shit posted on the site, with no clue how it happened. They got me too, actually, but only stuff that was already posted on the net... thank goodness, I never used my personal computer to log in, or ALL my shit would be out there including my resume lol.  

Facebook and Twitter have had the very same things happen, and everyone is just dumb founded by how that was possible. Those thinking just because 'they' don't connect real FB to hooker FB, that it can't be connected, are in for a shock. Any device you use with personal info. stored to log into those sites, can be stolen. It's just that simple. So, tell your friend that's why she keeps being found. Not many people realize this. It works almost the very same way emails get hacked, which happens ALL THE TIME. I can't tell you how many Linkedin requests I have gotten from a guy's REAL business profile. I highly doubt HE was the one who sent the request. Nope. What happened was, the site crawled his computer or personal email contacts and spammed everyone iin it.  Live and learn... you can't school the ignorant on what they think they know.  



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I think it's good to give a good 'smack upside the head' for these things; however, I think a nice PM to a lady may go a long way. If someone is newer to the profession, they may be going through the "on fire" stage, where they feel proud and want to tell the world. (I went through that in religion and lost a lot of friends, lol. Not saying it was bad, but it's an example.)

They could be working things out and learning as they go what's kosher and not kosher as far as advertising, and may be missing some information. There are some things that are just common sense, but other things, like running business in one's home, just may be what they think is best. (without little ones there, of course.)

"Diary of a Call Girl" shows a lady running business in her home. One room for business, the other for her own use. I was a little surprised, and wouldn't do it myself, but it is also setting an example to ladies that it's "ok".

I had thought of doing it at one point, and just telling clients "This is only my incall. I don't live here." But --- people figure things out. Not going to go there. But I, again, have thought of it.

for being reticent in disclosing and allowing the use of my real name in discussions on the forum.  

  I don't like all this "social media" crapola. The whole world including the NSA, DHS, CIA, FBI and every possible employer if relevant is privy as well as influenced by what you post and with who you may associate.
  As if the Patriot Act isn’t enough people’s innate narcissism is mooting the 4th Amendment

I could know everything about many of the members, if I chose to.

 
I would know...

1. What they drive

2. Where they live

3. Where they work

 
What ever info they decide to give up, is there for every one to read.

The NSA must love it..  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fG56PPrNf3

Aside from being extremely intrusive in their curiosity about other members they're also so myopic in their sociopolitical views they make the farthest wing-nut on our TER P&R board look positively "moderate".  

  On my "member profile" on the aforementioned forum it asks for hobbies and interests outside of "motorcycling". I listed "Hookers, Cannabis, guns, good pornography, and challenging government authority and/or its abuse"

The reactions as well as the NUMBER of reactions have been astounding!
:D

Posted By: bigvern
I could know everything about many of the members, if I chose to.  
   
   
 I would know...  
   
 1. What they drive  
   
 2. Where they live  
   
 3. Where they work  
   
   
 What ever info they decide to give up, is there for every one to read.  
   
 The NSA must love it..  
   
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fG56PPrNf3w  
   
 

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NEVER EVER in a million years here and NEVER EVER in a million years in my 'other' life. No way, no how. F that. I feel sorry for those who shit, eat and breath it.  FB is 'the' most idiotic thing created to date in 'my' book as far as social media is concerned. Can't wait til it 'self destructs' someday, which is inevitable. Hopefully soon.

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you won't be accepting my friend request?  

 
Come on I promise to leave my feather at home. :-D

0603450onThe1650 reads

accept your friend request (that's if I had an account) would be if you promise to 'bring' the feather...who are you kidding. You're not invited otherwise.

89Springer1529 reads

I see all sorts of pussies on Facebook. Puppies, too.  

Oh, wait. You meant...

[Gilda Radner voice]Never mind.[/Gilda Radner voice]

0603450onThe1762 reads

The only acceptable piece in my opinion is the 'business' side of it. However for businesses that use it solely as their advertising tool, most of the time I won't bother to click on that godforesaken icon to learn more, I pass right on by. And I will never understand why any business would rely on FB to advertise. Stupid.  

I was only talking about the personal side of it....and the absolutely ridiculous blow by blow, minute by minute description of one's daily activities. Again, stupid and ridiculous. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to shower, brush my teeth, get dolled up and head out the door to work. I'll be sure to post a selfie with each and every action so you can 'follow' and 'like' me. Oh and be sure to look at all of my 1603 friends...aren't I popular...hahahahahaha NOT....WHO THE FK CARES!!!!

FB is the epitome of insecure 'look at me, look at me' people for the most part. I can understand those who use it solely as a 'family' piece and can and do keep it in check, but most get carried away...so I am ANTI-FB and proud to say it all the way lol.  

Hey, is Nick a member of FB? Seems right up his alley. Love ya Nick. ;)

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The next one will be with a paper bag atop my head, lol.

Wouldn't that be a great ad picture? haha.

Facebook, however, for business in the entertainment industry, (not adult entertainment,) can use Facebook to guide others to google plus and YouTube. If used in conjunction with other venues, it is a great resource.

I don't get how it can be good for this business, however. There are plenty of other ways to advertise that bring in the clients who will dish over the big bucks. FB clients, I doubt, would.

Spending a little money on advertising goes a long way, and you end up with a lot more in the end. Staying away from the free sites, I'm assuming, bring one to that next level as a provider.

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and no, I had no clue it even existed in 'this' realms. That's just ridiculous and I can already 'envision' what it could look like. OMG scary hahahahahahaha.

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