I see a limited number of dates per day.  

Sometimes I get a gent booking 2 hours then speed fucking through all activity in one hour.  He feels satiated and suggests we cut our date to an hour. I've "got a long drive home" or "have alot to get done at work" so if I don't mind, is it ok we cut our 2 hour date to one?  

I really don't want to make a fun date end on a bad note.  I'd love to state he's welcome to leave now, but he still owes me what was planned.

Any ideas how to handle this situation?

Just explain to him that you turned away other business and you set the time aside just for him.

Make sure you try to give them a back rub or something and insist that they stay.

You could try letting them know when they book the appointment that the second hour is non refundable for the reasons above and see if that helps.

Good luck and stay safe.

A varied version of a NCNS, and should probably be treated like that. Let the gentleman pay for his one hour and leave. Make sure not to book him again in the future and if he asks why, just be honest. If any other provider asks references, be sure to add this info in with the rest. It sucks, I can understand that. Nothing will be accomplished by becoming the "bad guy" and demanding he pay for all that he "wanted" but couldn't finish.

b-

Then, unless the clod is insensitive enough to ask for a refund, you have no issue.  A lady near me, when asked if she has 1/2 hour sessions, says "Sure, but you're going to pay me for an hour."

"That's ok... I'll just play with myself on your dime... go ahead.. leave... I'll finally get to have a real orgasm" J/K

I'm too passive.  Maybe a flash card would help

Tell him that he booked a two hour session and if he chooses to leave he does need to pay you your entire fee.

Then post something on the ladies board so it won't happen to anyone else in the future.

I'm inadvertantly setting him up to becoming a bad hobbyist with my passive nature.  

She can't really bash him publicly if she voluntarily hands over the money without protesting.  Otherwise he might think she agrees with his misguided reasoning.

Before handing over the money, she should make it very clear that she feels she's being taken advantage of.  At least that way, she's exercised a sort of due diligence (in a way)  and he shouldn't be surprised if his actions get reported to other providers.

I believe that balathazar's response is probably the best.  It's the most non-confrontational, yet addresses the issue in the future.

It's too bad it isn't a pay as you go, like peep shows, where the barrier goes up after an hour...and if you want that other hour, insert the money, and the barrier comes down...

and legally tricky.  Just be sure to get the envelope and put it away.  Lie and tell him that you cancelled a dinner date or whatever.  

After looking at your site,reviews, and your pictures, I cannot imagine why he checked out early...

I figure once the money is handed over (always at the beginning) even if left untouched in the envelope, it is no longer mine...just the time spent together.  

Once you buy the good, you pay for the goods.

Just like going to an amusement park. You speed through all rides then you decide you had enough. Does the amusement park refund half? Think not.

He is not being a very honorable guy but if you demand full payment he will probably write a bad review, talk about you on the local board and then show up here on the National board when he gets no sympathy on the local board....

oops, sorry, I digress...

I would take the one hour fee and send him on his way but be sure to never agree to a two hour booking with him again and DO tell other ladies who call looking for a reference on him. If he pissed you off enough you could just be "booked" the next few times he calls...just to send a message.

Then there is option Two-tell him he booked two hours and he owes you for two hours. You are absolutely being reasonable in doing this. He may pay but you will probably never see him again...

It's always a delicate balance between what's best for long-term business and what's best for your short term aggravation.  I don't envy you ladies in this respect.

I have had this happen many times. A gentleman I used to see used to try this every time we met. He would consistently book me for 2 hours then ONLY stay one. The trouble is that he was 1.5 hrs away from where I lived and so taking that date on a one hour only was not going to work. I told him that he could book me for 2 hours but if he left early he would still have to pay for the whole 2 hours he booked and the travel pay for driving 1.5 hrs to see him.

For you, this is a business about time. If he books 2 hours then he should either stay the 2 hours or ask if he could make up the hour on a different day. If you're on time and he is as well then he needs to know that you may have turned away other clients to book with him.

Bunny, I read your post multiple times to try to make sure I understood the situation correctly.  The question I have is you didn't tell us how the money situation was addressed with the guy.  Did he specifically ask for a refund or did you infer that by him telling you he couldn't stay the two hours he wanted one?

I looked at your web site and your reviews.  You have many pages of reviews, each of which gives you outstanding ratings on both performance and looks.  Here is an idea, perhaps you did actually wear the guy out and he did leave very happy.
 
My initial thought was that the guy involved here perhaps just did not connect with you and was looking for an escape from an uncomfortable situation.  However, after looking at all your reviews, I don't feel that is the case or you would not have all the stellar reviews you have.

Has this guy scheduled any more appointments with you since this happened?  The key to me is if or how the discussion of the money at the time went between you and the guy.

Alyssa, you bring up a very good point.  I did not consider that some guys would use this as an attempt to bypass a minimum time set up by the provider for reasons like travel that you expressed.

Since we are lacking details in the original post, we all seem to be reading a lot into what happened.  

In the situation you pointed out, there would be no question in my mind the total amount would be due to the lady.

Lots of very good comments on this post.

never let him darken your door again. Tell him that before he leaves and you'll likely get his true colors: Say he's sorry and continue the session or call you something but a child of God. Either way, it will be in the open and you'll know who you are dealing with...

I have had providers jump out of bed and bust out of the room after I have finished (with hopes of a second go) with time still on the clock. should I expect or demand for  her to stay the full hour? I thought we had a scheduled time allotment but she left early, shouldn't i get a refund?

ax

my fault and usually doesn't pose a problem.  

In this case, he'd put 300 in the envelope from the beginning rather than 600. It's obvious I need to change my routine and check the envelope with new dates while they're in the bathroon.

will you be my posting buddy

I'd have insisted on a 2 hour donation if I'd have driven out of my way.  

My incall minimum is one hour.  On our date, he'd asked if I'd go see him at his place, which is a 4 hour drive.  I said yes, if you plan an overnight date with me...  that was before I noticed he'd shorted our date to an hour LOL

This man planned one hour with me before he walked into the room.  I didn't check the envelope til after he'd left.  My fault and will now have to check the envelope with new dates to avoid such situations.

I obviously need to check envelopes with new dates.

I should have included this information.  He put 300 in the envelope before he walked in the door.  I think it was just he had a long drive home and decided before arriving he wanted an hour.

the problem, he didn't tell me this til the hour was up and I didn't check the envelope til he'd left.  

but I stay the duration the date was booked because most men do want companionship.  

I'd state this when you book a date so your provider knows your intentions.  

Research, research, research!

A deal is a deal. Just because the guy is finished you are still due your rate for the two hours. Sometimes we think we need two hours but realize that after a couple cups we are finished. Eyes bigger than our bellies, if you will. Or maybe we get a case of guilt or maybe we have to really get going. Or maybe you are not as hot or as much of a turn on as he believed that you would be or hoped you would be, hell maybe you drag your teeth and it just plain hurts. Whatever the reason if the guy is the one who requests to cut it short he should honor your agreed upon terms. Anyone who would not honor those terms is not worth having as a client. Besides he will probably not call upon your aid and comfort again due to one or more of the reasons I listed above. You should politely request full fare kiss him on the cheek and leave. If he dosen't pay write him up on here since he is probably doing it to everyone and is giving the rest of us a bad name with you ladies.

and that was the one adventure I shall never forget... with one provider who still - in my mind is a unique and incredible experience...  That said - I do book multiple hours with ladies... and mostly I do not bolt... rather I like to take the "refractory period" to get to know the lady and just talk... or in one case look at a photo album (not kidding there!) or watch a movie - or even in one instance watch an episode of "A Simple Life!"  

I am paying to be in the presence of a sexy, beautiful and gracious lady... and in almost all instances a woman who has things to say!  and for that - I pay.  heck - I've even paid funds to a lady that I just think is neet!  with no session expected... but she has done me solids...  and that is always appreciated.

So SB - I would not expect a refund... but then again, I doubt you would see me leaving your presence after only an hour...   after all - we could talk remodeling... hee hee!!!

Research is the key and it's too bad that many of the ladies are not like those of you who contribute to the board... It's getting a lot worse too and I think we all have to consider that people will remain unpredictable so it's better to ask for what you want before the session starts and if that is not on the menu, pay a cancellation fee and move on...

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I have repeatedly come down on B&S providers and ROBs. I'd be a hypocrite to advise letting this type of behavior slide.

As other posters have said, you blocked off two hours for him, he owes you for two hours. Any guy who would try this kind of crap is a cheap bastard anyhow, and you're well rid of him.

As you so accurately stated, you would be tacitly agreeing that his behavior was appropiate if you went along with him, thus encouraging him to do it to others.

Stick to your guns girl

what he decides to do with that time is up to him. Stay and relax, or leave and eat dinner, go back to work, sleep at home, etc. But there is no reason for a refund. That would be like you now paying him to leave an hour early.

Its no different than if he booked an hour, and left early. He's not entitled to a refund for the time "left behind".

Unless the provider did something wrong, that made him uncomfortable/uneasy to make him leave, or was unwilling to deliver on what had been promised etc. no refund is necessary just because he decides he now wants to be somewhere else. That's on him.

Unfortunately, you can probably expect a bad review from somebody like that if he felt entitled to a refund, even though its undeserved.

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. . . no more subsequent sessions till he makes up difference. That's the way other businesses would handle a delinquency.

Sunny, that's bullshit behavior on his part.  He stiffed you for an hour, he knew he was going to do it and he didn't have the courtesy or guts to tell you before hand that he only wanted an hour.  I wouldn't expect a provider to see me again if I did that to one - you've got to let him know that such nonsense is unacceptable.

You've got to let him know that you know that you're worth it!

A one-and-done provider who gets dressed and leaves on you, or throws you out, is hardly the same issue as what we are talking about here.

But since you brought it up....

Next time do your research. Well-reviewed GFE gal will give you the hour that you paid for. Some less honorable ladies won't.

And only waited to tell you after he was done and ready to leave? That not only deserves your banishment from your bed, but you need to out him on the provider board.

b-

Guess I'll have to get my sorry butt to Minneapolis to find out! Buddy!

I like non stop action. I get bored easy.

I would make you do all sorts of vigorous activities for the entire time!!

Was traveling to a convention... made a 1 hour appointment between sessions...  turned into a non-stop 5 hour Sex Fest....  the gal would not let me go!  (I think she was mad at her boyfriend... and I "would do"!) The gal is georgous, very interesting and is actually a sweetheart... but on that night I was her sex slave....  Wow!  I recommend her to everyone (not that she needs my recommendation) and 5 years after - I still remember that night.  wow!

judging from your reviews and site pictures, I can't imagine anyone giving up the chance for another hour with you.

From your responses to the responses, it seems like you did not know he shorted you for the 2nd hour until after he left, and therefore he was planning it.  In a case like that, you should out him on the provider board to warn the others and then make sure you refuse the next request for an appointment and tell him why.

And I hope he is reading all of this. He needs to know what everyone else thinks of his tactics, hobbyists and providers alike. If he had any shred of decency, he would make an attempt to contact you to make things right, but I wouldn't count on that.

Your later posts made it clear he knew ahead of time he was going to cut the session short. I wouldn't out him publicly unless he writes a bad review. Better just to put him on your shit list and check the envelopes of all 1st time clients.

I usually shower at the incall at the beginning and I ASSUME the provider checks the envelope I've left while I'm in the bathroom.  For first time visits, I also leave all my credit cards and any large amounts of cash I might be carrying back in my car.  I had one provider count the cash while I was in the room.  I just assume she had been burned by some other guy and wasn't offended.  

The language of this post suggests this has happened to you more than once.  If you check and find that it is short, you ought to ask, "I thought you wanted two hours?"  If he says no, just one, again I would let is slide and just say, well big boy, let's get started.  Then, put him on your shit list.

The guy didn't personally profit from this but he stole your time.  You prefer two-hour appointments so that is what he scheduled but he knew he wasn't up to it so he only brought the one-hour payment.  The man is a milquetoast who couldn't be direct with you.  What a loser. He has no idea what he missed if he had stayed the second hour.  But let it go.  What would it have accomplished to count the money and challenge him on his time commitment? Your second hour would have been gone anyway.  Life's too short.

...as I drop the envelope the moment I walk through the door. If it sucks or if it's great, the donation is the same.

So...

I'm there, she's there, the donation's there - it's my job to make sure it doesn't suck.

Yes, I have been shorted before, but very seldom.  It was interesting to see most felt he did actually act ungentlemanly and should be expected to hold to his promise, site unseen/without exception.  

I've always felt if someone met me and didn't want to go through with things, It's best to part friendly.  So, I assumed if someone wanted to cut our date short, this fell into the same category.  

Being female and alone in a room with a relative stranger can be ackward and dangerous when bringing up sensitive issues.  Discreetly counting the money ahead seems to be the answer.  

I am thankful for your insite, clarity and resolution to my situation

On a high note, I know I didn't create any negative energy and with such action won't be seeing any negative energy coming back my way

After a session with one of my ATFs I returned from a bathroom cleanup to find a paper lunch bag tied up with a piece of curling ribbon.

"And what's this?", I asked.

"One for the road", she joked, "It's a BJ to go!"

Restaurants offer "Doggie Bags", why shouldn't Providers offer "BJ Bags"?

Well,

I've booked 3 hours , wore out in 2:15  (ok I'm 29 - but even I have some damn limits..heh.) I'm not into talking (I don't need to be convinced you really like me ) But why not take your time, over the two hours if you feel you are going to pass out after the first pop?

I'd say this. I'd love for you to stay and finish your time , however, if you elect to leave the fee will be no less.' or something similar to what you said.

The person in question even offered to refund me, because I let her take off early, and I said no thanks, the extra is a tip! .. I'd say taking the refund is a real low-end, low-class move, so is asking for money back.

I think what you said is just fine, if he retaliates -or- it escalates to endanger your safety, let him have what he wants and discontinue seeing him.

-M

That's a low-end move. wow.

"turned into a non-stop 5 hour Sex Fest....  the gal would not let me go!  (I think she was mad at her boyfriend... and I "would do"!) The gal is georgous, very interesting and is actually a sweetheart... but on that night I was her sex slave....  Wow!  I recommend her to everyone (not that she needs my recommendation) and 5 years after - I still remember that night.  wow!"

You're Frankie Valle right?  I know the song - "Oh What a Night".  It sucked when it came out and it still does.

You bring up a good point.

I've never had anyone pull this on me and ask for money back. I think that's just tacky.

We ladies say all the time it's compensation for the time. Our time. The time I could be using to either sit with my girlfriends in a bar someplace or at dinner with my mom or hell, out making more money or whatever but due to this appointment, that isn't possible. He may view it as you are now able to go do whatever it is you're missing out on, but not if its time sensitive.

I think that the point, though, is really he needs to try to be sensitive to the lady's needs and her schedule as well as his own.

To avoid this, Sunny, just try to stop him with a good old bbbj. I've never had anyone turn that down yet.

Katie