To sum it up the exchanging of bodily fluids is the difference. I pay for VIP here on TER because I love reading the erotic fantasy reviews. Some say she advertises as GFE, but didn’t do these…DFK, BBBJ, DATY. When I think about the risks involved with sharing bodily fluids I see why the price of admission could be higher, but for those who clearly do not offer GFE shouldn’t the tribute reflect a lower amount due to less risks?

BBBJ to completion (with or without swallowing) and BBFS to completion.

bodily fluids with a provider as long as I'm not also exchanging bodily fluids with her last customer.  Hygiene between customers is the key to keeping GFE enjoyable and relatively safe for all concerned.  This is also why I don't do incalls with ladies working out of hotels.  Nothing kills the mood faster than stepping on semen with your bare feet or encountering a wet spot already on the bed.  If's it's a hotel meeting, it's going to be at MY hotel or not at all.

an experience like one would have with a real-world girlfriend.

DFK and BBBJ are the two most important factors for me.  Even moreso than looks, intercourse or anything else.  In fact you could even side step DFK under the right circumstances.  Covered intercourse is fine for me and preferred.  

I think of GFE as heavy kissing.  At least lfk, preferably leading to DFK.  Anal and fiv I understand can be more YMMV.  I don't like anal and I always ask if they like it want fiv.

But I’ve taken to mixing in some FBSM visits with my FS visits.  That presumes the lady will upgrade to include DATY; no kissing, no BJ. And I’m just fine with that, especially given that I’m paying no more than 1/3 the price of FS. But if DATY is not on the table, I might as well stay home. I have zero interest in a standard rub and tug, and equally nonexistent interest in any date without DATY.

It's interesting that there are so many different points of view on what constitutes GFE.  I agree that the original meaning was to feel like you were with a real girlfriend as opposed to an impersonal experience.  And now there's a range of what people think GFE means.  But I think the three things you mentioned in the original post - DFK, BBBJ, DATY (NOT BBFS) - are what most clients would say are the minimal expectations in a GFE session.  I totally agree with you that if these are not on offer, the rate should be less.  I have to laugh at some of the postings on other sites where girls offer a "No" list that includes DFK, BBBJ, DATY, and even LFK and still are looking to charge top dollar.  Who is paying these prices??  If you were to offer a non-GFE session at a lower price, I think this would be a great service for those who are looking to meet with a great provider but don't have the budget for a GFE session.  Maybe you would also get some people who are newer to the hobby or are looking for a lower-priced intro to you and would book a GFE session later.  I personally wouldn't go for a non-GFE session because I'd rather pay up and get what I'm looking for if I'm going to make the effort and spend the time to set up a session.  If you go ahead with it, I'd be interested in how things work out.

That brings up an interesting question... How easy is it for a provider to offer multiple choices?  Can they be the loving girlfriend at one appointment and the blow up doll at the next?  Or are they just who they are, one or the other?

What is and what is not GFE, and the various connotations associated with it, are to say the least confusing.  I myself would just wish providers could say what they do or do not do.  So, anytime I see GFE, I always try to find out whether it includes DATY or are willing to try an extended DATY only session -- which I really enjoy.  Sometimes I get a straight response, whether its a yes or no, that's fine.  However, sometimes, the girl acts like I'm insulting her by even asking or by simply making a comment that she looks "tasty" -- although that in itself means various things.  Its all very confusing.  

There’s a nice irony about seeing “NOVADATY” Guy comment about too many acronyms…

Ok, what's a "TLA?"  That stands for "three-letter acronym." (Oh, the irony!)  

Typically my limit for Non GFE is $350-400 per hour.  I have seen several ads for $500 and up for nonGFE.  I just move on.  There are still so many who offer it in my price range!  Most I have ever paid for GFE is $700 per hour but that was my definition of One In A Lifetime!

The one who rebranded herself and now is working under a different name to avoid clients like you.. The same bespoke GFE is the one you speak of, right?

As usual this fool is shooting off his mouth in ignorance. "Bespoke" means custom made for a particular person or user. Like a bespoke suit or shoes.  Maybe he's talking about his custom-made blow-up doll?

But thanks for proving beyond a doubt that you know nothing about this or anything else.

Haha.. True..  

I was going to chime in, but it appears to me that Curly and Nicky have sufficiently bitch-slapped the Village Idiot on this one. Nice job gents.

We'd be better off if everyone just ignored this clown (gd).

I know he's a fraud and a troll. But sometimes, when he's especially outrageous, I just can't help myself.
Sorry.

It's not easy to ignore an idiot like that, especially when you can have so much fun beating up on him..  

McDonald0000 was funny as hell and so was Ridgetucky in his own odd way. And don't forget Otho. They were FAR better than this pathetic toolbag.

Gotta love walking into her bathroom and seeing a condom wrapper (or condom) in the trash can.  Really gets you in the mood

Have you noticed that NO ONE....EVER....supports you on this site?  All you get from EVERYONE is ridicule and abuse.
Gosh, I wonder why?

that can decode this word salad.  What is it you are trying to say, chump?  You mention a challenge.  What challenge?

I don't either, but these edibles I got today are pretty good ...LOL..

Truth. My best guess is that he has no family, no friends, and these posts are his only human interaction. It’s really sad, but his sole objective seems to be to start arguments here so people communicate with him. I can only imagine that he really believes that we like him. Clearly we don’t, and Admin’s post earlier today seems to indicate that he’s about had enough of his nonsense. Hopefully he’ll be gone soon.

Someone from TER has been impersonating a valued member sending me harassing emails & I feel sorry you have no life outside of TER.

Hmm. I have no idea who Otho was.. Must have predated my time on GD board.  I was most active between 2012 and 2015.  

Couldn't have been me, no one considers me a "valued member,"  

Amen, EOM.

language.  L'Idiot du village almost sounds like a compliment.  lol

For him it is!

I have a French username, so it stands to reason I might speak a little French.  Not as much as you, but enough to get by in Paris.  Lol

This is what GFE looks like..

That's Gloria Grahame jerking off Sterling Hayden in a carefully cropped image from Naked Alibi (1954).
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0047263