Can we agree that the donation should be rendered upon arrival? Preferably NOT in an envelope and left in clear sight?  

Most of the time, ok over 90% of the time when seeing a provider for the first time I do exactly that. I usually drop the donation on the dresser or nightstand while I am getting undressed to take a shower.

since when? Stopped going to church waaaay back.
Now if you're referring to the respective toll to drive
down a slippery hiway, gotta pay first to play.  

If it was done to my preference I would hand the cash in an envelope at the start and she would count it there and then so misunderstanding can't happen in regards to payment.

... as it seems there are many who want the money in and envelope.  I will do that on the first visit, and while I sometimes get a little card for someone I really know well, most of the time I just donate without the envelope after the first visit.  

I always place the envelope, marked "donation" on the nearest table or counter top upon arrival. Sometimes this is after the lady and I have exchanged pleasantries, kisses, etc at the door. I even still do this with ladies I've seen many times, just as a matter of habit and protocol.

I know that if you end up in the same room with LE you are toast no matter what you do, but why make it even easier to convict you?

It's like calling for a consensus on what is minimum requirements for GFE!

I always put the donation in a greeting card & put it in a plain site location as soon as we greet each other, I never write anything on the card.

Yes payment when arrived but I don't care if it's in an envelope or not?  Just count it.

I always pay after and it has never been an issue

Funny. Many ladies prefer it discretely in an envelope per their instructions on their websites.

Putting it in an envelope is for the provider's peace of mind.  She thinks someone waving a wad of cash at her might be LE.

Cash, big bills (less bulky), up front for new friends,  no envelope necessary xo

I'll remember that

State's Evidence - exhibit 1.

...if I don't put it in a plain white envelope how can I draw a happy face on it?

My site is clear...
BUT ONLY to those who take the time to read it!

Does my job pay me before I work no.
It depends on how well review each one is for example a whitelisted guy see a chance taker provider with low and ripoff reviews would be expected to pay at the end. I have pay at end an at begging I seem to get better service if I pay at end.  
A highend provider well review going to want to be paid first because she can get it.  

I just go with the providers' preference if they make it known on their ad or website.  All the providers I've dealt with so far in the U.S. have wanted the donation on arrival, left in clear sight with no explicit discussion.  But most of them also specified that they want it in a plain white envelope.  What do I care if it's in an envelope or not?  If the lady wants an envelope, she gets an envelope.  My first stop is the bathroom, which lets them check it without the awkwardness of me watching them do it.  If a provider doesn't specify anything on her ad/website, I just go with what I perceive to be the majority rule for U.S. providers: on arrival, clear sight, no discussion, in plain white envelope.  

if any.  It establishes that you will follow instructions & that promotes confidence that you'll follow other important instructions in bed.    
Once we've met, I usually leave the donation behind when we dress.  It's old school but is a nicity...  part of the GF illusion.
In practice, I actually have the correct donation separate, held together with a paper clip.  When I undress, like at home, I empty my pockets on the corner of the dresser with my clothes.  It's the first thing out of my pockets, goes on the bottom of the pile.  When I re-dress, it is silently left behind.  I don't "watch" the donation after it's left.  With the back & forth of dressing & using the bathroom, (with Fav ladies) while I have never observed it being picked up; sometimes it's still there as I take my leave & other times it's already gone.  

Nother words even if I out the donation I just write a bad review and look for some that hopefully be repeat some day.

Good luck with getting any thing out of a provider and if you do you may be ruff by her pimp.

I find that historically my sessions gone best when there is no mention of the donation.  By that point I have read her ad, emailed/P411/or TER PM'd her and if there is any confusion of actual session costs, I would hope that she has told me her rate.  I have and never will rip-off a provider as I believe they are providing a service and it is my moral duty to come through on my end of the bargain.  My donation is normally in an envelope, either laid down prior to the start or waiting to be deployed.  I actually read the providers expectations, and if she is one that states her uncomfortableness in asking for said donation then it is placed in clear site as soon as I enter the room.  At times I have meet with providers who engage in conversation as soon as I enter the room, then sex happens and they never make mention of it. But I make it a point to not forget.

I'm not fussy about it, but I do like seeing some bills. Plus, if he's paying with a stack of crisp, fresh bills, I don't want an envelope blocking that new bill aroma from being released into the air.  The smell of paper and engraving ink wakes my clit right up.

Review her site most of them I see ter review or not have at least 10 site some put up by her friends. So don't review ask her I don't ask anything I won't ask my wife to do.

A lady ask for the donation. Place it where she can watch you upon arrival, envelope or not. I feel nervous throughout the date if a gentleman doesn't and wonder if he's going to "forget" his cash in his car.

What's the context. If you're indie and it's a new client then yes, that should be a good protocol.

but i was there for a date.  is it really that easy to get a conviction?
 

That just happens to have EXACTLY the amount of money that's on her hooker ad that you responded to, you can bet your ass you are getting convicted.

is provide the donation within the first minute or so.  The only time I use an envelope is if the provider specifically states to do so.  I have read that some clients provide the donation after services rendered.  I understand why some decide that but I prefer to do it after exchanging pleasantries as mentioned.

after entering and getting a nice hug (and hopefully dfk) while i open the refreshment i traditionally bring, i will casually pull the envelope out of my suit coat (i always wear a suit*) and drop it on the kitchen/bar counter.  i always make sure the lady is watching me (we are usually conversing at this point...small talk to break the ice).

printed it or wrote it in cursive?  
Cursive is becoming a lost art  
as the keyboard has just about  
made writing by hand as obsolete
as counting with your fingers ...  
uhhh, uhhh ... what was my point?  
Oh yea, never mind. Dumb idea? ✔

You must get soaking wettt if the guy  
brings crisp new Benjamins and ruffles
them up right before touching your *****

if you handed me a stuffed envelope, you'd still
have your suit on when I left ...lol

not arguing, just wondering.
every escort likes to use the line- money for time, sex is free.  

I always draw the happy face right under the word "DONATION"!!! 😀

You post the adds for a good rate like 300 a hour with 2 hour min pay if she layoff if she sent home for misconduct than pay her on real time of $5 a min. Buy a time clock. Interview respondents. Make it well know you pay fair. Get her ssn# send her a w-2 pay her match ssn if you take more than 30 hours you have to buy her obomacare and pay unemployment when you stop.

I am calling you Riptard for now on.

the Bouquet 'o Cash:

Note to self: Disregard GaG's classless post as his opinion on how I do things is completely of no interest to me. My practice has worked just fine for several hundred dates with well-reviewed, totally safe ladies. Actually many have commented they like the big smiley face I place just beneath "Donation" too!!  End of conversation for me; not planning on any public debate over something so trivial.

Because if you'd been busted you would have sealed your own fate.  Putting "Donation" on the envelope serves NO purpose.  Perhaps, if you want to curry favor, you could just stick to the smiley faces.
And are you really calling all of us "classless" who simply use a blank envelope?  If so, great, because you've just insulted 99.9% of mongers.
Welcome to the BSU Club.

I make donations to charities and worthy causes. When I see a provider I pay a fee for a service.

I always chuckle that we go to such lengths to call this a business but won't call it a fee for service.  Granted, some providers have been very charitable with me but... a donation?   Trust me, that doesn't change anything lol.

That doesn't mean it's not reckless and stupid to do so.

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I agree, but follow the client's lead. If they say donation, I do the same in the event that the term "payment" is off-putting to them for whatever reason. However, I suspect some are saying "donation" as a courtesy to me for the same reason.

The money goes in an envelope so you can think it's a real date.  It's called a donation because it's actually voluntary.  You didn't have to pay to fuck her.  You just really wanted to give her money.  I have done this so many times I don't want to be called a monger.  I want to be called a philanthropist.

...up valuable time getting undressed and dressed again.  Here's a helpful tip to save time - wear clip-on ties!

but I make it a point to set that standard by having my website up to date with my donation preferences. Some hobbyists just aren't that experienced, and they are not up to par with protocols. A gentle reminder before seeing someone for the first time couldn't harm anyone.

transfer of funds to take place. I will read a lady's website and follow her instructions to a T.

who says i'm the one taking it off?

Yahtzee