I realize what I suggested sounds as naive as daisies. We're in a material world, right? We go by natural laws... or at least they're the ones that count. I know we need to dance with our angel of darkness... our shadow self (selves)...
But I'm just asking... I don't know. But what if? Is this just a myth, but what if the hundredth monkey formula (and in this case, the fruit would be peace) actually could change things? In other words, if enough souls on this planet radiated light and peace and love, could they bring about the peace millenium Christ spoke about, without having to go through Armageddon? Is that possible? Isn't it? Is it just myth that if our faith were strong enough we could move mountains? Or is the only truth material? Material consequences. Material ways of working things out. I'm really only asking here. I don't know. But can't enough people who stand for Light, can't their magnetic force bring it in? Faye Desiree
I did a couple of triads this weekend... that's where 3 bodies circulate the energy. It's an amazing vehicle - when everyone really lets go. My 5th friend that stopped Sat night, I saw with Mercedes. It was pretty hot! We hadda lotta fun. (He, BTW, was willing to go on webcam.. she wouldn't... ) But I was still a bit in business mode (there's a different kind of release that happens when surrender happens; most working girls are at least remotely aware of the clock, even if they don't try to emphasize that in their own minds).
So for the last round-up, Mercedes and I went to her place. I was more interested in being with her anyway. I wanted to experiment with going down on her again... And I felt "off" business time. So I toked up; I was already turned on by her; I got real vulnerable (usually I'll cry a bit at the oneness and different kind of reality and vision I experience in that mode); the guy came over and guess what? He was the plumber in the plumber foto fantasy! What's the likelihood of that! Anyway, I really experienced the whole flow thing. It was remarkable. I didn't have resistances up, I just went with it. The orgasmic energy that went through me was very big. I saw "god" in him. He's really just a client, and I saw god in him (which I do regularly with my tantra buddies and lovers and friends).
Then last night and this morning, there's all the news about our bombing in Aphanistan. And I began to consider the power of the old message from the 60s - make love, not war. And I think there's a profound prophesy in that. What if? What if we all engaged in love making, whether it involves sexual contact or not. What if we sent our higher energies out to the Universe (One Song), used "sex magic" to create a space of healing, love, growth and peace for our planet. What if Armaggedon doesn't have to happen? What if it's a prophesy to tell us of what "could" happen, if we don't turn things around. Maybe not all birthing experiences have to be painful. Maybe as we're being birthed into the fourth "plane" or diminsion of awareness... maybe it can be done through love, not war. If everyone lays down their arms, isn't it possible there won't be anyone left to push the buttons? Faye Desiree
Faye, do you have the slightest idea of how your life would change if it were lived under the rule of the Taliban? Suppose we did absolutely nothing except wear love beads.
Even if appeasing our enemy were to magically convince them to leave us alone (which has never happened in the history of mankind; unfortunately the sexist term is appropriate here), the women of Afghanistan would continue to live in the Hell we're trying to correct.
The Problem is that we are dealing with people in the "What is World". There is a big difference sweetie 
I realize what I suggested sounds as naive as daisies. We're in a material world, right? We go by natural laws... or at least they're the ones that count. I know we need to dance with our angel of darkness... our shadow self (selves)...
But I'm just asking... I don't know. But what if? Is this just a myth, but what if the hundredth monkey formula (and in this case, the fruit would be peace) actually could change things? In other words, if enough souls on this planet radiated light and peace and love, could they bring about the peace millenium Christ spoke about, without having to go through Armageddon? Is that possible? Isn't it? Is it just myth that if our faith were strong enough we could move mountains? Or is the only truth material? Material consequences. Material ways of working things out. I'm really only asking here. I don't know. But can't enough people who stand for Light, can't their magnetic force bring it in? Faye Desiree
Of course that means that you need to stop your participation in that world of materialism and the need for instant self-gratification... Hence, you should cease selling sex for money and being a possession for money.
Walk it like you talk it!
>> Of course that means that you need to stop your participation in that world of materialism and the need for instant self-gratification... Hence, you should cease selling sex for money and being a possession for money.
Hmmm... I would respectfully disagree with that one. I think there is a difference between "being in this world" and "being of this world"... I would assert that one does not have to stop interracting with the physical (material) world to adhere to their higher ideals and inject aspirations of harmony into the world.
Additionally, I don't see how selling a sexual encounter for money equates to being a possession for money. I sell my professional services to my employer for lots of money, does that make me the posession of my employer? No, it doesen't. Not while I'm providing my services and not outside of work either. Why is it different for someone in the adult entertainment business?
>> Walk it like you talk it!
Again, I would have to disagree... Faye is taking the time to share ideas in a public forum. She could be posting "available blonde, come fuck me" messages but instead she's investing her time and energy into posting something that is meaningful to her and perhaps to others as well. Sharing the thoughts of a peaceful society is a noble effort. I think she is "walking it like she talks it" by bringing this type of discussion up and at least giving people a chance to consider the point of view.
Thas my 2 1/2 cents...
-Satori-
I'm simply asking questions to make me think, at least. Perhaps others... Read my post on "Krishna urged Arjuna to battle." Battle is also very much a spiritual principle. I'm just wondering about the hundredth monkey syndrome. Does it work? Can we believe it will work - test it - while we actively engage in rooting out terrorism. I don't know what the answers are. But I think we can at least explore many personal possibilities while the gov't is busy...
This is a material world. I don't yet know how to be a "breathatarian," but I know they exist. I'm not St Frances yet, but he thrived on his vow of poverty. I'm not called the same way he was. But I do believe I'm called... xo Faye Desiree
Dearie, I wish I could live in a world like you envision. Nevertherless, I respect your moral courage to tell what is definitely not politically correct at the moment. Anybody can talk tough, but nobody wants to die. I noticed nowdays it's fashionable to talk tough without the balls to back it up. Like those cheesy display of patriotism. Like a half inflated, yellow balloon. I belive that sometimes good people have to do bad things just to survive. I am not being a mindless warmonger, just realistic.................
Sounds great. C'mon over, I'm free at 8. I trust you won't want any money for that "free" exchange of healing energies ...
But, failing that, please don't suggest "let them eat cake" again. It just rubs in how insufficient my experiences with women LESS beautiful than you, Faye, have been. You're the upper class of sexual desirability; your clients are not, else we wouldn't have to pay you for it. I've been searching my entire life for "open" sharing experiences like you suggest we should all engage in, and I'd be the first to share similarly IF THE OPPORTUNITY PRESENTED ITSELF. But women like yourself, Faye, aren't generally so open-minded as to actually "share" with someone like myself, and I suspect that you won't be taking me up on the offer I've presented in the first paragraph any time soon. That's why I have to pay for it, and that's why it doesn't feel like sharing ... because the carefully protected, highly desired, long- and oft-sought after commodity is PROTECTED BY YOU and your ilk.
The well's been poisoned. Don't pretend we can all just close our eyes and drink freely from it. Maybe in heaven, and maybe in adolescent fantasies, and maybe in the simple revelry of two perfectly stunning physical examples who enjoy one another's company. Sure, I'd like to be there. So far the people who I'd like to share with haven't consented. That's why I have to pay for it.
Duh.
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I know you know that by now. Today, I experienced Tantra on one of the deepest levels I ever have with a client. He's over weight, he's had genital warts that are now healed (yes! Yes! We used protection!) - so he's had a very bad self image in that category (his ex-wife gave them to him 12 years ago, and he wasn't the one messing around), he smokes. Yet, he was open... willing. I got up his base chakra, massaging his lingham... and there it was! We both started morphing. I saw god (just like you can on drugs, but no substances used); he saw goddess. We went waaaay back.. we got eternal. That sounds goofy. If you've never experienced it, it's... indescribable. The stuff of which I speak is possible. It is attainable. I mean, why do you really think we have sex (besides pro-creation)? Why? It's fun... sure. It's for enlightenment, that's what! xo Faye Desiree
Read my previous post without the word "physical" in it, and my sentiment doesn't change ... that there are those humans who RESTRICT access to unbridled, sharing sexuality, and those who WANT access to it, and you are one of the ones who RESTRICTS it. So don't go posting to a board about how beautiful it would be if everyone would just share in a more open spirit, until AFTER you start offering up yourself without those restrictions.
I'm here, I'm open, I'm open-minded, but I'm not willing to take the leap of faith required when you say I can have a sharing experience with you, all I gotta do is pay you for it. Doesn't sound like sharing to me.
So, Faye, again you say, "let them eat cake."
I would like to say that I am in favor of unbridled access to sexuality, but is that really a true statement? A couple of evenings ago I was having dinner in the food court of the local mall when I had a woman approach me. (First time in YEARS that has happened.) She started a conversation, said that she would like to go to a movie and asked if I was interested. I said that I had to go back to work. I really did have work to do, but mainly I didn't find her attractive. Well, I certainly was restricting her access to unbridled sexuality when I did that.
Nobody has TIME for everyone else in the world. A very attractive lady such as Faye simply would not have time for everyone who would want access to her. She has to be selective. My real point is that we are all selective. None of us will grant unbridled access to our persons.
Now the truth of the matter is that I am a SBNOG (short bald nerdy old guy). My chances of having attractive sexual young women come up to me and say "I want to have sex with you with no strings attached" are just slightly better than a snowball's chances in hell.
My experience with the top ladies in this field is that the envelope gets you through the door but then you are on your own. It's really not much different than a date with a civilian (except that sex with a provider is usually on a completely different level than is sex with a civilian).
G2 pointed out that one of the most amazing things this board has revealed is the frequency with which relationships are formed that go beyond -- sometimes way beyond -- a simple business transaction between clients and providers. Those relationships are fraught with even more problems than most relationships but they happen more frequently than I would have guessed. Surprise, providers and clients are both human!
I have seen Faye. I treasure the hour I spent with her. I have exchanged e-mail with her from time to time since then. Once she joined me and a group of friends for lunch (on her own time I might add). Faye gives of herself. Faye like every real person has finite resources. She has to pick and choose when and how much and who to give to. Any other course leads to self-destruction. This is true of all of us. May we have the wisdom to pick and choose wisely.
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Hey, I understand that the logistics wouldn't ever work. I also understand that Faye is right, that happy sexuality would be remarkably healing and mind-opening. I'd love to live in a world where my friends (including my female friends) agreed to "make love not war." I'd love to be free to "share" sexuality when I or someone else needed to.
But it's still damned patronizing of a hot-looking woman who would never give me a chance, to suggest that the solution to many of the world's ills, is for people like me to open up to a little unbridled sexuality. I'm open already. SHE is the one who wouldn't be open.
Really. Men like me have been begging for the opportunity for unbridled sexuality for generations. Women like Faye are the PROBLEM, the people who LIMIT our access to that sexuality. For her to suggest somehow that WE are the problem and SHE has figured out the solution is ... well ... really rude and stupid. When desirable women start making themselves accessible, then they can start telling men to get a little more horny. But as it stands, the more desirable (by whatever scale) she is, the LESS likely I'll get to have some healing with her.
So, let me say it again. If Faye can make it possible, then I thank her for suggesting it. But right now, she is EXACTLY the person who is PREVENTING it from being possible. I'm waiting for her to make an offer, or find me a woman I approve of (for whatever reasons; physical, interpersonal, whatever; but MY criteria, not hers), to allow me to do what I've been trying to do for about two decades now ... that is, have great sex with few strings attached, in a mutually supportive, incredibly healing and erotic atmosphere, without exchanging large amounts of money -- share and find the goddess. If Faye can't provide that for me and men like me, then she doesn't get to suggest that WE ought to go out and find it, because frankly, IT'S NOT AVAILABLE. And SHE'S THE REASON it isn't.
Sex is a wonderfully healing act. Why won't someone heal me? I'll tell you why. Because the someone's who would be able, are as STUPID AND CLUELESS ABOUT REALITY as Faye is. Me, and a host of men like me, are in pain here, perpetually on the outside of the whole "sex as goddess discovery" thing. I'd love an opportunity to learn more about that sort of thing. But you and I know, Mathesar, that it will remain a fantasy for us.
Here's a story you've heard before. Young person leaves home in a small farm town, moves to the big city. Say, New York or Los Angeles. Has some hard knocks, falls in with a rough crowd, but eventually gets back up on his or her feet. Then, through a miraculous discovery, young person realizes that sexuality is about sharing, ahd he or she goes out to share. He or she has sex with lots of different people, of fascinating different races, of different ages, in different settings, with different backgrounds, and life is full and wondrous. The healing from that sexuality gives this person an energy to go about his or her daily tasks, to love fellow humans and to become a successful, meaningful contributor to our common culture. Life becomes enriched by a newly open sexuality.
You've heard that story before. It's the story of a young WOMAN who moves from the Midwest, and it's cropped up more than once not only in porn fantasies, but also in reality. But is it EVER the story of a young MAN (a heterosexual man like me)? No. Why? Because young women whom that man would meet, do not allow him to "enjoy and explore" in the manner that Faye suggests. Young women LIKE FAYE resist his opening up, becoming a full human. He requires their help, and THEY DESTROY HIS SEXUALITY. I have always wanted to just "share" the love of sex; but it's always fallen into one of two contexts -- the "power" construct of North American frigid bitch marry-me-or-else where-is-my-rock types, who exchange sex for commitment; or the "money" construct of providers.
I'm not the problem. Faye is. Women like Faye. So she can just shut up about telling me how to solve my problems. I know how to solve them. What needs to happen, is that her behavior needs to change. Women like her need to put their money where their mouth is ... if you say people should have open attitudes toward sexuality, then HAVE AN OPEN ATTITUDE toward sexuality. Make it accessible. Or don't say that others should be more open.
See why I'm annoyed? Don't you feel somehow "stunted" by the limitations placed on you, on your sexuality, by the unreasonable and often a-sexual demands of our hung up, tight-assed society, and the people in it who expect to exchange something for the mere right to have sex with you? Something like, say, Faye's going rate of $400 an hour (or whatever it is).
I mean, really ...
War is always a failure of imagination, and when the drums are beating, imagination takes courage. The call to be "realistic" is often thrown at those who propose unconventional approaches; the seeds of change never appear realistic until the odd new flowers begin to bloom. Those who don't have the answer are the ones who keep looking.
But Faye Darling we are trying to fuck the Taliban,
Osama and the radical/Islamic terrorists.
Is this a topic leading to a discussion of "making love"
versus "fucking"????