Please feel free to add on:

1)  You keep leaving a sealed envelope full of $300 in twenties next to your SO's bedstand before sex.

2)  You are surprised that your SO hosts at her house.

3)  You accidentally wrote the name "Jasmine (Jessica)" on the PROVIDER line of your health insurance card.

4)  Your accountant won't allow you to deduct the $10,000 in hobby expenses you try to claim

5)  Your SO is really impressed that you bought her Dior shoes in her size.

6)  Your SO misunderstands your question one night and gives you a Rosetta Stone Greek language instruction kit on your birthday.

7)  TER declines a review of your SO because you didn't fill out an active website.

8)  On Valentine's Day with your SO, you honestly cannot believe you're going to have BBFS.

9)  You are a little jealous when your SO visits the spa and gets a facial, yet she's declined all your offers to give her one.

10)  You take showers before sex with your SO.

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I was dating a provider for quite a while a few years ago, but every time we had sex she insisted that we shower(separately usually). We had an otherwise pretty good relationship, but the sex felt so scripted I broke up with her over it.

...And he was pissed.  He said "you're not turning a trick Ally!  You don't have to get out of bed to bathe, scrub, spit, gargle and sanitize every time we're done fucking!"

Habits die hard Gambler! LOL

lol...so sensative aren't they...It's like a dog marking their territory. lol
(i've done the same as well out of habit)

...And post-orgasm, without skipping a beat, they immediately do that.
Most real couples just languish about, dirty LOL!

you're pampering us when you do that, i wish civie girl friends would do that...it's sweet!

11)  Every interstate exit you pass brings a grin of a memory of visit to an incall off that exit

12)  Every hotel you pass brings a grin

13)  Every restaurant you normally go to brings a grin

14)  You take your wife out for anniversary or Valentines day and have to worry about which restaurant to take her to and which waiter you'll get or that the maitre d' will say welcome back MR.  ......

15)  You have to juggle how you are going to take your SO out for Valentines day with which night and where you'll take your ATF

16)  You wake up with a hard on and your ATF on your mind and hope you weren't vocalizing, grateful to hear snoring beside you.

How about this for 10a?
After sex with your SO, you tell her, "Wow, I'll make sure to write you a great review!"

Reasons you know you've seen your ATF too much

1)  GFE becomes GF

2)  Neither you or she shower before sex any more

3)  You rent the room, stock the fridge, supply the ipod and candles, spend a great part of the time pleasuring her, leave the door keys on the counter and walk by the desk without checking out trying to look non-chalant, and remember you didn't receive a white envelope!

4)  You remember her birthday, she get's drunk on yours

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I like to be clean beforehand if he's going to taste the coochie. There is no way I'm letting someone eat me out if I don't feel clean. Believe me, he'd appreciate it. Now, if he just wants a romp in the hay, let's do it -- immediately. Yeah, baby! But, if we're not using a condom (which I haven't done in years), then although I may not get up immediately after, I'm going to eventually get up and at least wash down there. The longer I sit with it inside me, the more apt I am to get an infection and have to sleep on the wet spot. One is more conscious of these things when you mature.

I haven't had an SO in years, but I'd be washing myself after the fun. I mean, come on guys! You don't have someone else's "C" up you, so you have no idea what it feels like having that stuff make you itch and drip out of you. I would think you'd appreciate the fact that we want to be clean. That's probably why I don't have an SO. I'm tired of worrying about stupid stuff like that.

And if it pisses you off, then tell her and come up with a solution (like I gave you in the first paragraph).

Hugs,
ciara






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Here's another:

11)  Your SO is not so excited about the "Pearl Necklace" you give her, even though you tell her that one size fits all.

After sex with your SO, you ask if it will be okay to call her the next time she's in town.

Your on vacation, and you call your SO's cell phone from the hotel parking lot, to tell her you're on your way up.

You use your ATF as a reference on a job application.

17. You hope your SO doesn't want to do it tonight cause you have an appt tomorrow with someone better!

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Maybe if I wasn't a hobbyist I wouldn't have noticed her behavior was very "provider like", but I am, and she was, and oh well...lol

Having "dated" several providers, I don't really mind some of the habits you girls get into, I actually like some, err many of them.lol Sex with this particular girl got to be just "so" sterile it killed the sexual part of our relationship.

In her defense, she was a rather "high volume" provider and I knew that all along, I guess it's hard to be spontaneous and fresh with a BF when you are repeating an act that you perform dozens of times a week. I can't blame her, but I need more in a realationship.

and we eventually did come up with a solution. We broke up.lol

IMO civvie sex should have some spontanity, ours felt so scripted and so sterile I got no enjoyment out of it. Even more importantly, I felt like she too was getting no enjoyment out of it. Kind of like an auto mechanic who has to work on his SO's car when he gets off work

Virtually all relationships end over something, and I 'm not trying to place any blame. Did I mention we are still good friends? Not all, er even many relationships are meant to work. This was one of them.

I also gave some helpful advice to the original poster. Now, if sex becomes too mechanical or sterile (like you mentioned) it probably wouldn't be any fun, but I think I mentioned what I do, not what others should do.

Hugs,
Ciara

and leave the clean sex to providers.


Hugs,
Ciara

or just a pig depending on your POV. lol I like to mix up civvie dating and the hobby. Occasionally the two overlap. I am sure that I will end up dating another provider sometime in my future, or at least I am certainly not ruling out the possibility.

One thing I forgot to mention was the ladies Korean backround, I think it was a cultural thing on top of the "provider" thing. Most of the Korean women I have known are hygenic to a fault.

Yes, Korean and Japanese women are extremely clean individuals. Maybe I am part Japanese.


Hugs,
Ciara