In light of the recent hack and data dump I am seriously thinking of leaving this site (although of course ANY massive hack will have past history)

What is the prevailing wisdom/climate here?

Seriously, if you are one of those guys who is worried about his PII, you oughtn't be playing here

is that if you have been using your real name and/or real CC or other monetary instruments with your real infos on it you are screwed.

Your leaving the site now would serve no useful purpose since all of your personal data on the server will live on to posterity just waiting to be accessed for right or wrong purposes!

To all: as if the Ed Snowden has not opened your eyes yet you should all realize two facts of life from now on:

1)  Your own government is your WORST enemy. It cannot be trusted. It will fuck your life over either intentionally for nefarious reasons or by its incompetence making ID errors.

2)  LIVE OFF THE GRID: Nothing good can come from having your ID and infos in cyberspace: bad guys including your own government are all potential enemies that will fuck your life over

Speaking about safe FOR MAN methods of screening which would  NOT require you to become a member of such sites as  those went down and now and in the past and may be put  down and in the future and are closely monitored.  
 
I m repeating  as a prayer that intelligent client would find ways to pass screening with high end wise high end companion ( as myself , and there are few as well )  other means such as -  
   
-Tete-a-tete  information    
   
-One word "Hello" to  lady;s professional linkedin    
(I said -Professional  - as  who she is by her real life - student, accountant,manager- Iam not advising you to send invites to entertainers on linkedin with dozens of  groups related to adult services.)  
   
-sharing his own website via private conversations to emails of the provider which BE NOT googled as  an escort provider.  
   
-providing deposit -safe means trusting his companion for discreet set up of means take deposits -  
 ( I for instance can take even Tax deductible donations which be NOT in any case have ANY trace to adult activities)    
   
-dinner to start.  
   
   
That is more more suitable for man who have to loose a lot Family Work Wealth.  
 
 And recent events are proving my philosophy of staying away from not safe fishy "ponds" of adult sites  
 
 Instead of  becoming member there and sending  those "implied criminal intent" requests for bookings of sex services-  
 
Instead any wise gentleman may pass screening via real life means..

What I think- it be very VERY nice If there be a site where be NOT male memberships at all

- THAT way disclaimer  
  "everything contained here is fiction and is for your entertainment and amusement only "

 would be truly clean and not possible to be challenged  

 Two intelligent  adults -( INTELLIGENT-) can establish trust and with no being drugged in to illegal establishment activities.( as sending forms with requests of intend for sex services)  

 Women  then can be - "pure fantasy "on those sites -  
and just "everything contained here is fiction and is for your entertainment and amusement only"
Would not be argue able then
 

Everybody who would say different - just wants you - gentlemen ,be drugged in her/his criminal
 ( for this country) style of life .

You can stay very clean, and very safe with passing screening with ladies who have alternative methods to screen you- you have just be open and help a bit.

 You do not need be a member on those site as P 4 ** D* - and write  hundreds review  to pass screening - look here now - here are few very respectful gentleman well know yet they do not have even one white list and one review written.
 .
Those  met this disclaimer - "everything contained here is fiction and is for your entertainment and amusement only"
   
Of course of their intend to be here can be challenged .. :)  
 but generally - they do pass screening and with no sending documented requites from P ** for sex services and participating in murky activities  
Professional men nobel men men with brains do know that we'll I see Only such

 How they do it?? How they do manage have the best women yet not be a members and not write reviews ??  

 learn from the best and see then best -
 NOT LET CRIMINALS to drug YOU in her /his style of life pushing on your THEIR - not yours- their - those people who are living in the area of illegal activities from the age of 18  they just do not know other ways.  
Not be foolish to play by their rules It is other way of contrloing you and made you to sink their level They will go down - you will go too. Be wise be clean play as man with best women here Here are such few Look for them  

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The OP asked a very valid question. U replied with a tutorial lol. Funny

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It would make it easier if TER would allow a payment by a simple Visa gift card that has total anonymity.

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that if you have given TER information that you did not want to risk - then that boat has already sailed and not participating further is not going to affect any risk you might have...

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Se la Vi  as always to ignorant  people with challenges to comprehend obvious things.

use google to translate-  

Rira bien, qui rira le dernier.  

 
As  it was absolutely  CORRECT  classified as tutorial - I believe  by Sasha- my post IS a  TUTORIAL

 Tutorial how to stay safe and not connected to fishy sites which may go down and be monitored.

You have choice to be in high risk to be compromised- or you have choice
 NOT to risk at all and share your information with safe independent escort only not via internet all world.

I do not have idea why men here do not trust women here- or those women are trully criminals - or they are criminal in male minds. or men are criminals themselves- or both parties just have very bad experiences .. who knows - I do not know - and do not want to know.

Rira bien, qui rira le dernier.  

 
Yes it is IS tutorial. Sasha got it right. - Tutorial how to meet  and how to past screening AND not risk your well being by participating in shadow activities sites.

 
I made my choice long time ago whom and ho I able to meet and screen

 And  I am enjoying the best  clients  who take care their and my safety seriously .

 
By the way  95 % of crowd here has to work on comprehensive skills!!!

most people here seems are  deprived  communication SKILLS .. such as they are totally lacked  of the word decoding in a communication process, ( I can see how there be comments that if English is perfect then there is no need in de - coding - Nope -  de coding is normal process of  any communication process  and is evident of Cognitive abilities ( brain-based skills )- YES ! Yes we are speaking  about  capacity of the receiver of the information to give well developed feedback.  

 I saw here just Bl BL Bl  letters ... such feedbacks here are  is self explanatory.  
SELF explanatory ...for those who love have fun and feel this fun and not service with 7 sense..
Cherchez la femme..  

 

 Se la Vi  .. Some people  go through a forest and see no firewood.  

You Seek for  warming you fire.. and I 'll see for woods  

 

 

 

 

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The Ashley Madison hack was more than likely an inside job. Some sources believe that it was, in fact, an inside job. So, it wasn't technically a hack.  It was an internal security breech.  

Those that are being outed used their real work and/or personal emails. They used real credit cards. If you're going to do clandestine shit, then be clandestine. Gmail, Yahoo, Hotmail. All free. All NOT your work or personal email addresses.  

Not that it necessarily matters where servers are, as servers can be hacked anywhere, but AM's servers were set up in Canada because AM is a legal business.  This site's servers are harbored in Germany, and it uses a third party CC processor that isn't affiliated with the site. TER doesn't have your cc info; the cc processor does.  

The reality of the situation is, if someone wanted to, this site could definitely be hacked.  Just like P411 could be hacked. Or Date-Check. Or Amazon. Or Target.  It's all hackable because its all online. and you know what? There's not really anything you can do about it.  

I mean, you could start browsing from Tor to protect your IP address and randomize it. Using anonymous email addresses helps too.  But no system, no online presence, has proven unhackable. Shit; there are a significant number of people who have pacemakers connected to the internet for realtime feedback recording. They should be worried about being hacked. Because you know, death.  

But lets be honest, here. What benefit would a hacker glean from fucking with someone's pacemaker program? What benefit would they glean from hacking TER databases?  Records of a bunch of johns with fake names and a bunch of hookers with monikers arguing with each other over screening practices and ISOs asking for the "best bang for your buck"?  Reviews that read anywhere from 6th grade essays to Penthouse Forum fantasies? There's nothing "juicy" here.  There's nothing here that is socially valuable to the population at large. AM's databases were OVERFLOWING with social currency.  

So, if you want to leave, go for it. But really, your reaction is exactly that; a reaction.  It's not precautionary. Unless you've been taking the necessary steps to protect yourself as best you can, there is more data on you than you can ever fathom.  And you know what? No one truly cares.

I certainly don't lose any sleep; i'm not important enough to lose sleep over something like the AM hack, and quite frankly, unless you're secretly a Duggar, or a government official that used your work email to sign up for TER, you're not important enough for media ridicule or outing either.  

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If AM used a 3rd party credit card processor like TER or not?

Does TER even have CC records on users if so?

Ashley Madison isn't TER!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is too big to fail.

Talk about Penthouse Forum. For me to stay with lengthy TER prose, it takes a wildly juicy story. Most of the time I'm done somewhere within the first paragraph. I could care less about some kind of TER hack. The powers that be already have every detail about our lives anyway. So what kept me interested enough to read your whole disquisition, was not the juice, but the composition. Well written, and thank you!

Loved your line about 6th grade essays. You're too kind!

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you shouldn't worry about getting hit by a meteor or winning the lottery:

The law of averages.

But, perception is reality, so if being on here makes you queasy then by all means do what feels right to you.

and people wonder why I complimented BBBBB for her good post of yesterday.

If I complimented her for EVERY great post she made, I suppose I would be TER's version of the Maytag repairman. lol

Either way, I'll take it.

Lesson being that for those who thought so, aliases and prepaid cards was not enough to remain totally anonymous.

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True man enjoys woman as a whole package. Even if they know each other ONLY for few hours.  
YET for true intimacy they have to talk.
Why I am not surprised to hear that you not used to women  
who able to express themselves? Is my my fault in such lost of your bringing up.

Talking stimulating sense and

Sense, sure, you have,
Else you could not have motion.
[Hamlet, Act III, Scene 4]

Have a motion.. or it be just boring.  

 

 


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