Well honey, I'm worth it too. Tell you what, I will see you EVERY week, but I want 2 hours for your regular 1 hour price. Any takers? Your ego says no, but what does your pocketbook say?

...I actually would prefer a provider telling me she's worth it.  It would mean she is confident and self assured--I like that.  No provider in her right mind would take you up on your offer--there is no guarantee that you would see her a second time.

You forget that on this site there are resources (reviews, chats, discussion boards) that help us determine whether a provider is "worth it" or not.  Still, in the end, you just have to go and experience for yourself if she is "worth it".

I can only imagine what kind of question you asked to get an answer like "because I'm worth it"..."So how come you charge what you charge?"  Give me a break.

you might get lucky!!!

...I'm not sure just what you're trying to tell me.

...someone understood some of the drivel I post here--who'd a thunk.  Thanks Nicole.

Its amazing you don't have the ladies lined up around the block. Professional and otherwise.

BECAUSE I AM WORTH IT!!!!!!

Dah!  Put the bottle away & read this when you get sober. I constructure my hourly rate solely on my expenses as a Lady in the Escorting "Business".  That entails (are you sober yet?) driving my vehicle to & from, therefore need of tires, gas, oil, brakes as they wear out & all repair maintenance on my vehicle including insurance.  Now, lets get to my upkeep, if I didn't eat I would be a dead lady & you wouldn't want to fuck a dead person would you?  Then makeup, shaving cream for those soft beautifull legs of mine, razor blades, creams to keep em soft & looking good, colone for that entrigging exotic smell of me, clothes to wear so I don't have to drive to your destination in the buff yada...yada...yada.  Now advertisements, hundreds of dollars there each month, computers for emails & webbing on the sites that charge us outrageous fees, P.G. & E to run the computer, cell phones & never knowing what your spending on that till the billing arrives.  Shit....I need a drink now, care to share your bottle fella?  Well, I gotta give you this, you are courageous & forthright about your needs of stealing un undeserved hour out of us ladies & that's something I might give to a reg. client which is my decission & my choice because it is them who have supported my endeaver of who I am in this business.  You forget, we are not your GF or S/O, we are Escorts etc. In this business, "treat us right & you shall reep" the wonderfull pleasures we have to offer!  Please don't get a hangover over all this, I wish you luck. Darlyn

I'm really writing this because I dig NOSC and just wanted to say hi, but do consider, would you visit a provider who thought her self-worth was below market value?

This is really a chick/dude thing. With chicks, it's not necessarily about the money, it's about self worth. With men, it's generally how cheap they can get it, because they need it. Neither concept is dishonourable, it is just the way it is.

Nicloe, do feel free to "relapse" more often-I miss you!

I cannot imagine any quality provider agreeing to your proposal.  Beside all the business model stuff posted here, which I know to be accurate, why shouldn't a provider hold herself in high esteem the same way that, say a super salesperson or computer programmer does in their respective careers.  If they themselves don't believe in their own self-worth, I for one am not interested in spending any time with them at all.  

What you sound like is an individual who has had some less than good experiences with providers, and my suggestion is to look carefully and constructively at reviews before deciding to visit with a provider.  You might find out that many of them are "worth it".  Or, on the other side of the coin, you may want to consider another hobby, like stamp collecting.

the woman you want by actually talking to her, dancing with her, all at a club just for such a purpose.  Airfare is about $500 right now.  And the price is way under $$ for the whole night.  Are those women suffering from self esteem problems?  If we want to figure that one out, we will need way more than the intellectual resources displayed in this thread, myself included, of course.  Is self esteem attractive in a woman?  To me it is.  To others, maybe not.  To all the angry providers.... going ballistic (and quite personal) on the defensive front regarding what you charge just makes you look bad.  You know what you make, and whether it's working.  That's your business.

If I charge less, I get too many emails and calls.

Two years ago I raised my price, which allowed me to play as often as I want without spending hours online responding to those I can't possibly fit into my schedule.

As far as self worth goes, I've never attached a price to self worth.  My prices are only based upon supply/demand.  

If ladies of similar quality deluged my area with prices less than myself and I had insufficient requests for dates, I'd lower my price.  This has NOTHING to do with what I feel I'm worth any more than each person compares their hourly pay to theirs.  What an odd thread this is to me.  

I don't think it's healthy to attach a price that a lady charges for her companionship to self worth.  FYI, this post is not intended to anger anyone.  I just don't think it's very healthy.

I prefer to have fun, not argue about prices.  If you can't afford the lady, do her a favor and find one you can.  

Bartoring and whining just makes the whole scene lack class.

This doesn't include those that are repeat clientele.  Those gents deserve a cut in rate and I obviously like seeing them or I'd never offer a "repeat offender" discount.

The prices charged by ANY of the ladies has nothing to do with  what they think they are worth. Their prices, like the price of any other service/goods is determined by the marketplace. If I were a provider and charged $300/hr and could not keep up with the demand I would quickly raise my price to $400/hr, and then $500 until the demand slackened off.
By the same token, if I had no calls at $300/hr then I might want to drop to $250/hr.
To expect a provider to drop her rate assumes that she is not in demand, or that she finds you to be such a hunk that she wants to spend her free time in bed with you.
Not likely my friend

Of course the all the "good ladies" are worth it. Why else would the guys repeat? All of the ladies comments about self worth, self esteem etc all make sense to me. Plus, it is a business and they have to set certain standards and stick by them.
However, IMHO, if he is a repeat customer that has has been around awhile and has always treated you well, I think the best response would be to offer the opportunity to spend an extra hour for the standard fee. You would only do this once in a while and only with those hobbists that you really enjoyed their company. What say you ladies?

Your comment will be added to the list of ridiculous comments I get from men who won't be seeing me...

Others include...
"I'm so great YOU will pay ME!"
"I don't NEED to do this"
"Your should be doing something better with yourself" (HELLO!? Who dialed my number to make this comment?)

Wake up and smell the coffee... Like any business if I am unable to make ends meet I would do something else.  

But my specialty is makeing "ends" meet.  Beats flipping burgers...

Besides aren't you worth the best you can afford? If not I am sure you can find a Walmart version lady somewhere.

To go further, it is Economics 101 (literally) to use pricing as a rationing tool.  A vendor (or provider) may be ok charging rate $X, but does not want the transaction problems at $X (whatever the problems may be, in the above case, too many requests) so the price gets raised by $Y to more easily manage the clientele.  It's more than just supply-and-demand, it's managing the transaction.

--Hoot.



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So Mr. Chef, this post has been up a little while now...Care to share with the board how many gals have taken you up on your offer???

I have no problem with somebody like NOSC stating that she's worth what she charges.  Her business success indicates that the market clearly agrees with her.

I get a good chuckle when I see postings like "I can't get any clients, but I refuse to charge any less than I do right now, because somebody else who isn't even as pretty as I am charges that much and I know I'm worth at least as much as she is."

Bottom line is I think some really ARE worth it.  Some are delusional about what they can get away with charging.  They'll either figure it out or leave the business.

And not everybody is about maximizing profit.  Personally I've turned down many lucrative projects because there are certain types of business I just don't want anything to do with.  Not profit maximizing, to be sure, but I sleep well at night.

MisterG

frequently travel to Praque or Rio.  Compared the rate ladies in those countries charged to the average salary of their fellow country men, those ladies get sky high compensation.  Besides the fact that Mafia like activities are prevalent in this hobby in Eastern Europe or may be Rio, many beautiful ladies in those countries are volunteered to enter into this business.

A visiting Czech lady I met earlier in the summer told me that she make much more money in a couple of appointments in US than her average salary countryman in a month!!!

The autobiography of Ray Kroc, founder of McDonalds, was titled "Grinding It Out".

If you're a first timer, there's NO guarantee you'll see the lady every week. She can't take your word for that! Why would a good businesswoman give you an extra hour on the "hope" that you'll return every week? No true gentleman tries to haggle with a lady over prices. If you don't like her rates, you're free to look for the price range you want to spend. No one is holding a gun to your head.

I don't know if this question is a hypothetical or if you're serious; but I dislike bargain hunters with a passion. They always try to take advantage, just as you're doing. Two hours for the price of one for a non-regular?? Please!

When I raised my rate from 250 to 300, I'd noticed the quality of gentleman change.

I guess $50 can weed out more than just too many calls

Darlyn,

It still amazes me guys just don't understand what it takes to really run a business.  It is a business and for most of you, a full time business - which means you're not doing something else on the side.

What the hell are these guys thinking, you're working 12 hour days - one fuck right after another?  I would rather be with a gal who charges more and only accepts one date a night, then a Escort who charges $100/hour and has been with 5 guys before I arrive!

I want you to take 1 to 2 hours to prep for me - take a long bath, get those leggs silky smooth, buy a couple of new items at VSecrets (like a blue teddy!!).  Add the drive time to and from.  I hardly think the rates are that high.

I also consider the time you spend working out, work time.  Because I love that nice toned body.  Oh, and the time working on your tan too!  Come to think of it - you better raise your prices!

Ladys;

Just to report another pet peeve of mine is a lady that splits after 1 hour when she is gifted for 2 hours. Same thing as some mens rude behavior of looking for 2 for 1. I think this is just as bad either way. This is rude,low class,and I wont return no matter how much you say "oh im sorry i didnt know/forgot.....
I had a girl pull this on me and said "oh e-mail me and we will catch up later". Of corse i didnt get any response to my e-mails.
No class....
Sheesh.
Oh well.

scot.

I agree with Misty on this one.  A repeat customer deserves a break and is "worth" the cut backs.  But does one become a repeat customer because he wants a "break" or because he truly is satisfied and happy with the Provider?

A guy offered a woman a million bucks if she would sleep with him. She said, "Sure." He said, "How about a dollar?" She said, "Hell no, what kind of woman do you think I am?" "We already know that," he answered, "and now we are just negotiating." These women lose that title of lady as soon as they accept cash for sex, and they are women only. Not ladies. And don't forget that.

And if you have that level of contempt for those of us in this profession...

What are you DOING here???

Sincerely,
Nicole

I think Nicole is replying to that guy who says that we are not ladies, we are WOMEN.

Nicole, you are so sexy and smart, you are OBVIOUSLY a lady from head to toe!

Hugs*
Nicole

Married women who use sex to get what they want are no different than providers, and are the worst kind of hypocrites when they look down at providers, as they so often do.  

Providers are usually very upfront about the fact that it is a simple exchange of sex for  money.

But when providers pretend to feel emotions for the guy that they do not feel, or let him continue to think they have those feelings (by not setting him straight when it becomes obvious that he is thinks they have romantic feelings toward him), they are doing something that is dishonest and wrong.

I'm not exactly sure what a "lady" is, but I have known many providers who deserve respect, and none that do not deserve simple kindness and courtesy.

I like in a woman - a thinking person who knows how to be sexy!

I love a woman who appreciates an intelligent man.  I once heard people who find intelligent people sexy referred to as "mindf*ckers".  LOL.  But though the mind is very much involved, let's not forget the body!