Do some of you also feel that booking longer than a few hours is not worth it?  

Some dates have gone longer than that, but that was the lady's choice.

he way I work, the more you spend, the BETTER the deal.  The more options available and the more we do, the more time we spend together doing all those things.  

But with one provider in particular, I didn't want to leave when the three hours were up. Even if my equipment wasn't going to function any longer, I still wanted to play with her. I'd try to get her to go for four, but she'd already had other plans.

from a customers POV, not so much IMO.

Quite frankly the GFE providers I see don't have ala carte menus, and I get to do pretty much whatever I want during my time, within reason of course.

The OP is talking about booking 3-4 hours when he knows he can't possibly fuck that long, and I tend to agree with him. I don't pay for "time and companionship" I pay for NSA sex. I like going out to dinner and such, but is it worth several hundred dollars an hour to do so? IMO no.

Some guys actually enjoy paying to take someone to a concert, dinner or shopping l would take a provider shopping or to dinner but that would have to be off the clock. however I would consider an extended or overnight with my atf because she has earned it

I'm in the camp of 2 hours paid for BCD.  But as Nicky posted...that often turns into other "stuff" that just happens.  Paying to watch someone sleep, eat or babble just isn't an interest of mine.

Why anyone pays to get that "price break" on that type of shit (or in this case a woman's time) is useless.

There are gentlemen who look forward to the company of a lady at dinner. They want to go to dinner and do activities with a lady. Every man as different needs. some men want those types of sessions, but most who book 4+ hours really like to have conversation. Many of my multiple hour clients insist on dinner and a movie etc.  

Is it like when you buy 5 coffees you get the 6th one free?

I don't have $700-$800 to play when the majority of that time is to talk. I rarely book more than 1 hour. When I did, the lady had a very reasonable rate - $400-$500 for two hours. This is nice, because when I do book 2 hours, it just slows everything down. I only pop once and dont try to run the gambit in 60 minutes, so Im totally okay with some chatting and a little time to put my clothes on, so under normal circumstances, the extra hour is a lot of money for that. Id like to see more providers offering 90 minutes for a little more than the hour rate, just to give you a chance to settle in to start and get your clothes on to finish, not to be naked and groping. In the scheme of things, 30 minutes goes fast and it would seem reasonable to me, but that is my humble opinion.  

or I am history. I should also add that drinking in a public bar or eating is OTC. If I am drinking, they can talk all they want as long as the conversation isn't about paying bills, ex-husbands/boyfriends or dirty laundry in general.  

But she was an extraordinarily special lady. It did require a few breaks for cat naps and sandwiches. But it all depends on the lady and the "connection." Some I wanted to leave immediately after busting a nut, some I wanted to play with for a while (2-3 hours?).

Many ladies charge around $300 per hour. I usually see low volume ladies - two or three dates a week. With some of those ladies, they are happy with $1,000 for an overnight. At that point: $600 for 2 hours, or $1,000 for all night, it is a no brainer. It is like paying for a 2 hour date in the evening, a 1 hour date in the morning, and you get the rest of the time to enjoy her company.

And other perks so she has earned an extended or overnight from me. But I'm not doing that for any random provider.

But I never want to feel like she's "doing me a favor" when she wants to go out and play...or shop...or eat and so on.  Shit, to get CPA to go shopping she has to be hot...and trust me, I'm doing her a favor.  I fucking hate shopping.

Maybe a better idea, I almost forgot how long it takes women to shop haha!

And some are actually prepared to pay someone to watch them eat and babble about themselves.

Nope...gotta go and watch them check out the hundreds of shoes, purses, blouses, bras and so on.

Howver, I sometimes end up spending a lot more time. Last week I arrived bt cab at 10:00 AM for a 2-hour morning session with a very special lady (of course, they're ALL special). The session was profoundly sensual, and at noon, I took her to a very nice lunch at a different hotel not far away

There is always some other gal who actually enjoys my company and wouldn't dream of charging me for "her time" when "our time" consists of me spending money on her for dinner, drinks, shopping etc.

but of course a provider would have to actually "enjoy" the company of a man she is NOT charging to spend time with her. That's the one sure test to find out how a provider really feels about you. If she charges you for every second you are together, but you still think you have "chemistry" YOU DON'T. lol

I have not had any problems over the years having gals ask me to join them for lunch/brunch et al.  Some of this is with gals who travel to Chicago on occasion and want to match the handle to the man.  Others it seems are locals who have a similar interest  LOL

I love the way u put it...  

But I see you had some fun with others.

Gals who charge gents to take them to dinner  or anything else off the clock just shows how much they think of that particular guy.

The same one that against all the advice from the BSC crowd I booked on short notice last Sunday.

I guess she must like my company because she schedules me as her last "date" of the day for an hour session and then we go eat, drink or whatever, I think our shortest "date" was about three hours, and if any of the BSC crowd thinks I am taking advantage of her, she calls me, and it's her idea to go out.

This is not a "I've fallen for a provider and can't get up" post, we just enjoy the same things and we both enjoy it more together than we do alone. The way I know she really wants to go with me is that SHE calls me, and SHE doesn't expect a thing after our paid session expect for good company, but I suppose some people, both men and women alike, can't grasp that simple concept.

What happened to your tie?

Nah. Just gerbils and small rodents.

well.   And I've had some extended OTC time afterward here and there but that was just social.  As far as a compensated pay for play I can't see more than 1.5 with someone I don't yet know and in most cases 1.5 is plenty of time for a unrushed date focused on play....

Start shit when it's not necessary...   I had to run the other day too, too much stuff going on with friends & clients....  U seem to do the same thing, not play very well with others... Especially w/me so why don't u go play with someone who gives a crap what you say ... Cause I really don't.... Thanks & have a wonderful day....

I would suggest you get a few more gals there and bring out the twister game for entertainment.

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Maybe it'll be submitted to Penthouse Forum (is that still around)?

But what I read reminded me of a favorite quote:

What went to the right?  

Couldn't have said it better myself, I've had quite a few dinner dates and never paid extra. Usually a spur of the moment thing, that's the stuff that makes the hobby fun. Some guys never learn....

I chat with my SO,  I'd go see a movie with my SO. Those are not something I enjoy with an escort unless it is off the clock.

Sometimes connections are made.  Hookers and Johns are human.  Some of us know how to treat each other and learn to enjoy each others' company.  It's called chemistry and you can't plan it.  So many guys want it and ask how they can get OTC time like this and there's no answer.  You can either do it or you can't.  It either happens or it won't.
My most recent experience is one with which GaG is quite familiar.  I was on line with a hooker friend and learned it was just her birthday and she hadn't had such a great time.  I was planning to meet two fellow mongers the next day at a fine restaurant and told her she was welcome to join us.  I'd been to dinner with her once before when she was the date of another monger and I knew from him that he paid for her time at dinner.
I said to her, "Look, I'd love to take you to dinner but you know my rules: I'll pay for the food but not to watch you eat it."  She said she was fine with that.
I picked her up at her place (where I'd had a P4P session earlier this year), we had a great dinner and I brought her home.  No sex.  Just good company and excellent food.  Simple.  And one of those things that make this game so much fun.

Guess again?   I prefer Porsche not an escalade. :

You OTOH might hate him though.

As I tell the Turdmeister all the time. The stick never hates the piñata, but I suppose the piñata does hate the stick.

I am glad you are back, I told CPA that we tried to be nice to you while he was gone, but you seemed to want nothing to do with being nice. I would have hated for him to have gone all "Turdwellian" on me if you went on hiatus and accuse me of running you off. I shouldn't have worried as we all know this is fun and games, well at least some of us do. The way the steam was coming out of your ears the other day, I was beginning to wonder.

Alas, I can't stay and play long tonight, I too have a dinner date, but in my case I expect just the right amount of fucking and talking.

she'd be here preaching that none of this OTC time really happens, that she would never do it and that any gal who does it is a fool.  Then she'd mount up again on her high horse, using the back of her mangina footman to reach the stirrup, and would ride off into the sunset with her nose in the air. LMAO.
Do you get the feeling I don't miss her?
Sadly, I'm sure she'll return soon.
Beetlejuice?
Minnie?

I doubt anyone would even be able to hear it over you saying to yourself "What, am I fucking stupid? Why am I paying a thousand bucks to watch her eat popcorn?" over and over again. lmao

From now on, when the door opens, I want her on her knees with her mouth open. And I want a timer that stops when my cock isn't in her pussy or her mouth. I'll be sure to get my 1.5 hours worth.

Thanks.  It was very heart felt. I haven't received a letter like that in many years. I had no idea you felt that way about me actually but we can talk more offline. When you stop by new england,  I can take you a better pier if that's what you enjoy but only after hitting the clubs first.  

I don't care if I met her, ate dinner with you guys and saw it with my own eyes. The OTHFBC has spoken, and if they say it doesn't happen, then I have to believe them. lmao

but yes, a good time was had by all. Not ALL hookers are mercenary bitches that only look at johns as walking ATM machines. Once again, I really don't understand why some people have such a hard time with that concept.

Trust me, I don't take things that personally & things are forgotten like yesters news.... Maybe I have ADHD but TER is fun!! I'm too much of a strongheaded gal to let peeps run me off.... I'm just busy busy w/trying to get my upcoming semester in order plus trying to se all my ATFs before I'm grounded in chicago & not able to tour!   You guys are amusing.... More then anything... Very whimsical actually intelligent & cunning... These boards would be boring without u guys....  

The fucking obviously will be confined to the bedroom, but she loves crawfish and the season is about to end so there will be a lot of "sucking" both before, during and after dinner. "sucking heads" with each other, AND sucking crawfish heads. lmao

Y'all have fun tonight and try not to break anything while I am gone.

She didn't seem too enthused about a plane ticket though. Will she be back tonight or will the closeness of padded walls and white jackets be her companions for another week or two?

Can you remind me what was written on that letter??  Maybe I was drunk when I wrote it, since I'm being accused of being a slobbery drunk on TER... Lol... So anything sentimental I wrote may not mean anything as of the following day...  

See a few posts above. Rumor has it that she will be back to grace (or graze) us with her cud again soon. I guess I prefer her over the manly gated horses.

Same as I do anything else.  Longest I've done is 3 hours and that was with a UTR girl in another city and the rate was a about what I'd pay for an hour in Chicago. Can't review her but a great time was had by all (well by me anyway).  Here I would not do over an hour unless I really felt like I clicked with the provider...shit can get real awkward real fast after the lovin' or between rounds if there's no compatibility.

Of course, I'd already been generous with them and they just wanted to reciprocate.  As a true gentleman, I let them.  It's not as if we were at an expensive restaurant, so I was fine with it.

I"m sure you know who I mean.  She told him on many occasions of guys she dated who took her out to dinner, paying her for her time as well as the food, and never even had sex with her.  So there are guys who just want a dining companion, or someone to take to theater or a movie.
I don't get it, but if that's the way the want to spend their money, who cares?
PS: I've seen her pix and I wouldn't have sex with her either, LOL.

As they say,  a drunk girls words are a sober girls thoughts.   Patriot games sounds better.  

Lots of things to explore, while talking, eating, etc., especiLly with food. Order room service, ice cream, fruit, etc., and have a all.  

or for some, a lifetime. Is that not the definition of insanity after all?

That said, you "I'mma fuck this chick for an hour and bounce" guys really seem to bug out about the guys who do like longer dates. Not once have I ever seen a guy who likes overnights come on here and bitch at y'all for only wanting a minimal amount of time. So what's your beef?

Lmfao....  

Two types of OTC: Playtime Off The Clock. (POTC) and Socializing Off The Clock (SOTC).

I like to see gals who are interesting people, and I get great pleasure being in their company.

Sure, I enjoy the sex too, but there's something to be said for balance.

Nearly every date I have is a dinner date, and even with an overnight I seldom indulge in over three rounds.  Truth be told, I'm not physically able to do much more but even so, I'd miss the social time if all we did was hang out in the bedroom.

Any shorter and I feel rushed, any longer and definitely diminishing returns as I'm lucky to get two shots on goal in one night.  Hanging out off the clock is another thing entirely, but rare except for one lady that I see.

A lady I know very well has five regulars and no other clients - obviously she's a part-timer.  Only two of her regulars have sex with her.  One just hangs out watching TV (two hours a week), one get the bejesus beat out of him (he makes the whips, flails, etc. himself), one watches her take a shower and occasionally gets a back massage, but leaves his undershirt, shorts and socks on.

...how little they think of themselves.

The thread that got deleted where you were babbling with GaG and a few others..Just like this one may end up  LOL

Can you imagine having a date with Tobi, having a slam/bang sexfest for 60 minutes and bailing out without getting to spend some time getting to know her a bit?  I'll bet she'd be so much fun to hang with that I'd put my pants back on for the second hour.

But wrong, as far as I'm concerned.  Since you chose not to explain your comment I have no idea why you believe this.  And like all blanket statements it can't possibly apply to everyone.  I certainly doesn't apply to me.  I think so much of myself I could be described as arrogant.
Seriously, I never expected this aspect of the game when I returned a few years ago, and it's only one part of the personal side of the business.  But I've ended up with a very wide circle of friends in this game, men and women, and partied and dined with many of them.  It's been a huge amount of fun.  If you've been unable to participate in this way you're really missing something.

The board already addressed any issue she may have had with me.

Very well said.  We do a lot of outdates here because there are a lot of men who desire to spend time with a lady, having dinner, sightseeing, going to shows, nightlife, etc.

I'll be back in Bahstan soon enough.

You seem like a 10 round guy.... And please don't say ur age won't allow you, from the reviews & consistency in seeing providers, I think with the right person you can blast out one after another... There should be more hobbyists like URSELF... Every girl would have a happy hobby life... 😁😁😁😁!!!

The rest of that thread...  GD-who removed it???  Who the hell is Skap??  

Still has a few kinks to get out however.

Maybe it got so small that it ended up in cyberspace?

Maybe.... Cyberspace.....  

I don't give a shit. lol  Helps my real handle remain further anonymous from dumb guys like you.  ROF

Skarphin sure does post a lot of stupid posts and make a ton of wrong assumptions.   Going for the dumbest poster of the year spot are we?

Every meal we eat comes in multiple courses.  Every escort we see comes in multiple courses as well. One after another. LOL  Truth be told, I'm also not physically able to do much more either after the first escort but even so, I agree it's fun to just socialize.  

Escorts should not assume all her clients are like you.  

sometimes leads to some OTC

...You're always bragging about not paying to watch them eat, i.e., you'll only go to dinner with them OTC.  Now are you saying you DO pay to watch them eat?

I book as long as I need to splooge twice. I'd be more than happy to hang it with the lady and bullshit around afterwards since I no longer have to worry about getting off, but I'm not paying for it.

I genuinely enjoy longer appointments.  I have no problem with springing for a meal or a show.  For me, stuff like that is part of a true Girl Friend Experience.

My minimum appointment, even as a first time out kind of thing, is three hours, preferably four.  My typical appointment length with one of my regular friends is probably five or six hours.

One very special friend and I get together with tremendous frequency.  Our typical date-length?  Three days (Yes, Days.  We've actually gone for almost a week once or twice).

What can I say.  If you looked in the dictionary under "lonely middle-aged man whose wife doesn't understand him," you'd see a picture of me.  For me, all those buzzwords like "the donation is for my time and companionship"...well, Yeah, that's really where my head is at.  I love the hot and wild sex, for sure; but I also truly enjoy the companionship.

Go ahead, flame away at me, I can take it...

(PS:  I'm going to be starting a thread soon about super-extended "arrangements"--looking for good, intelligent feedback.  Try not to fling too much feces from the cheap seats, ok?  Thanks.)

Yes, to each his own. It's up to the client if he wants to spend that time and money.

I missed the word "pay" in your first post on this.  I never have and never will pay for a girl's time at dinner. That said, I don't judge those who do, as you seem to.  I don't understand it.  But if that's what they need, why not?  There are things I get judgmental about but they tend to be things like pederasty, rape and other outright abuse.
But thanks for clarifying.

Is the initiation ritual fun, I hope?

I can't remember the last time I walked up to a really hot chick and just started playing with her boobs or rubbing her vagina. I think I can't remember because she decked me.

I also can agree that a true gentleman should always pick up the tab, but ain't no way in hell I'm paying for every second that someone sits at the dinner table.  

Why would you care how a provider feels about you when you CLEARLY don't care for her?  

I care because I would like to believe the provider that I'm with doesn't detest and loth me, I treat every encounter as though it's date with the notion that we may become friends.  

It seems a bit contradictory to say that to a lady, 'you aren't worth a quarter unless I'm pounding your guts. But sure, I'll buy coffee, pay for for dinner, movie, or art exhibit fees to get to know you better as a person.'  

Cute twisting my words, no one ever said a provider isn't worth anything unless a guys pounding her, I've paid for sessions where no banging happened at all. There is just some shit that I don't think men should pay for