It seems like more ladies want all your info. I will not provide it. If I have a lot of whitelists why should I break my privacy while hers is still OK? Doesn't that kind of defeat the whole purpose of this site?

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I know you're much more experienced than the vast majority of us here. Can you please tell me what the 'bro code' is? And no, you cannot pm me and tell me.

Paranoia has grown over time. Providers have ruined the game by submitting Johns to blacklist websites for the silliest of the reasons.. One provider submitted my TER handle to blacklist because she didn't like my posts. No kidding or making this up. Just imagine if she had my real name.  Another one submitted me to blacklist because she didn't like my review of hers.  

it would be nice if just occasionally your strong opinions, which you so freely share, were informed. Would you care to cite an instance where the "johns" here adhered to the "bro code" and banded together to ruin a lady's business? Surely you must have first hand knowledge of this happening in order to make such a bold statement. Please share your knowledge and I will happily post an apology and a retraction.

I'm gonna post my personal favorite anyway.

The guys are. Didn't you read Rods post? Get with the program now. Please?

Not all those who require that information are doing it for nefarious reasons. Just like not all guys who refuse to provide personal information are refusing because they have something to hide

Independents. An agency blacklists a client, they're out a client for multiple ladies instead of only one. They also probably didn't take things as personally.

In Tidwit's mind of course. lol

I have always wondered, with my big fucking mouth, I wonder how many BL's I am on?

Your subject choice is either tongue in cheek or absurd. Which is it?

They all pretty much read the same "Quit sending me PM's you fucking putz" is a common theme in my PM's to him.

I wonder if he and MacLeaky got together to strategize about how to win the inaugural BSU award when he was in Chicago?

and know, our little turdmeister is hardly original, he is just the latest in a long line of suckups trying to curry favor with women who secretly (or not so secretly) despise him for his lack of backbone.

Oh wait, they sucked last year too. Never mind. lol

Giving personal info DOES NOTHING to guarantee a lady's safety.  

Rod I know I don't post much here but I try to never best up anyone over what they post. I figure everybody's entitled to their opinion. After reading some of your posts you make it hard not to. I can't imagine any instance where the "Bros " would band together to defend any kind of violence against a provider. As a matter of fact I have seen the opposite on my regional board.

But I never got the official invite to be part of the band.. Who is the chairman? Where are the meetings held? When are they held?

I am many things but absurd?!

Would be nice if you can elaborate...

This band of Bros. Are there any dues. Is there an initiation.  Is there a secret handshake.

So a gal tells you she got "beat up" by some john and didn't file a sexual assault complaint....I suspect YOU wanted the dudes real info and you'd take care of it?

there are decent rationales on both sides of this debate. For both, it seems personal safety and security is the driving force, although no one has bothered (or probably ever will or could) to truly show that either mutual anonymity or real-world info is ACTUALLY the safer course for either side.  

What are the Lakers' fan rejoicing.. Their 3-13 season, so far...lol...

He's the proverbial WK and Captain Save-A-Hoe john.  The gals know this type quite well...use them as pawns.

You've matched me in # of reviews submitted, I vote aye.

motion carries

Oh. So you posit some canard about a 'bro club' and then lie again when called out on it. You're shameless.

He'd leave this little world a broken and disillusioned guy.

So 'tongue in cheek' it is. Thanks for clarifying.

Thankyou

And yes, I 100% believe that having real info has saved my ass before. You may not want to believe it, but it's true. Will it save me on the spot from being murdered? Probably not. But if a guy starts trying to cause trouble later, it is MUCH more advantageous to have his info, than just his handle and email. I have learned this unfortunate lesson several times, as have a lot of girls. You can keep your head buried in the sand and keep pretending we are being nosey, or you can recognize that there are people out there who are genuinely unsavory that we need to protect ourselves from. It's not about you, unless you are in fact someone we should be keeping track of.  

and he has a habit of using "sixty four dollar words" in the wrong context which instead of making him look smart, tends to have the opposite effect.

As for the Lakers, I like the "Lakers' girls" other than that, I don't really give a fuck either.

I thought it was gonna be a barrage of long-winded questions from that Duplicitous dude.  

Posted By: CurlyW - Nats Fan

What are the Lakers' fan rejoicing.. Their 3-13 season, so far...lol...  
   
 That makes you posting a Lakers gif, a losing proposition...

i wont give personal info and never have. and i never will.

You do raise some valid points about being stalked or murdered, but it's a well known fact that "some" hookers simply can not be trusted with personal information, even well reviewed providers right here on TER have been known to "out" a client for something as trivial as a 7-7 review.

It happens, maybe not often, but it definitely happens. Now getting outed might not compare to getting murdered, but try telling that to the guy who just lost his home, his job and his wife, simply because some BSC hooker decided to get revenge for a NCNS or a bad review.

Don't be a crybaby.

I deceived you using his style.. What an irony... LOL..

but as almost everybody knows, I am blackmail proof. I might have a very different outlook if I were not.

Everyone does need to realize this is not, or at least this "should not" be an "us against them" type of situation. Most people on both sides of the equation are only out to either make a living or have a good time and not out to hurt anyone, it's that small percentage of people that cannot be trusted that cause the problems.

The fact that both the Dungbeetle and Inicky have admitted to doing screening for ladies should prove that point. There is no way to know exactly who is going to be privvie to one's screening information.

How many guys are going to rest easy knowing that a nut job like the Dungbeetle have their personal information?

and yes, changing a woman's mind about screening is like trying to get a $500 hr woman to see you for $200, I suppose it's possible, but more likely it's just a waste of time and energy and won't accomplish anything but to get both parties pissed at the other.

And thank you for throwing the SPOTY competition. I'll split my winnings with you for "taking a dive" lol

but I'm going to ignore that and send you some more! LMFAO!

and yes, after looking up your profile you are indeed "new to these parts" lol which explains why you believe our little tidwit. Those of us that have been here longer know better.

Around here, we don't have the "blame the escort" mentality. I am not denying that mentality doesn't exist, it just doesn't win out around here. I will confess that on a couple of other fuckboards, especially the one mentioned by MsMocha, where the mentality is more like a pack of jackals, that mentality does manifest itself into "blame the hooker" for just about everything.

However, there is no guarantee the person I'm giving my info to, is the girl I'm planning to see.

and your attitude that "us girls take all the risk" is a huge part of the problem. Guys have been outed and their lives ruined for transgressions as minor as writing a 7-7 review.

Until you can see that the guys have every bit as much to lose as you, and that they have no more way of knowing when that well reviewed woman is going to turn BSC than you do of knowing when that "well behaved gentleman" is going to snap, we are never going to make any progress on this issue.

I hate to break it to you Charlie, but your attitude is a MAJOR part of the problem here, and this is coming from a guy who doesn't mind a bit giving out my personal information for screening purposes. You seem incapable of accepting the fact that the guys have every bit as much to lose as you do, and that the risk is equal on both sides. If you see enough guys you will invariably meet a psycho, if you see enough women the same holds true. I've had it happen to me, hell I was outed and my personal information splashed all over the internet just because someone didn't like the things I posted on this very site. So please spare me the "TER women would never do this"

but you are not - so why stir up this tired old question?
If you like to play extremely safe - as do I - and not provide your personal info to individual ladies, then don't.
There are thousands of wonderful ladies for you and I to chose from who will rely on P411 or TER whitelistings alone.
And obviously there are enough guys who are comfortable sharing personal info with ladies who ask for more that these ladies do quite fine too.

I require real name and phone# that is traceable to you. This is because once you see me you will know my real name, address, what kind of car I drive, ETC. Of course, I am not an escort and I work from home.

There is no fool proof way for either side to be 100% safe, all we can do is do the best we can to stay safe, and of course some of us are more "risk tolerant" than others. and this is true for both the guys and the ladies.

For example, let's say a woman is doing this to put herself through law school, that woman better not take any chances, even if it means losing business, where it comes to avoiding LE, as an arrest would spoil any chance she might have of achieving her life long ambition that she is working towards. OTOH woman who is openly a hooker, both to family and friends might consider an arrest simply a minor inconvenience.

The same goes for the guys, when I was outed I got literally dozens of emails voicing concern that someone had "ruined my life" when in truth it had ZERO effect on my life.  A married man, or one with a high profile or sensitive job might have indeed had his life ruined in similar position.

So yes, this works both ways, BTW quit spreading these rumors about what a "nice guy" I am. I've worked hard for years building my reputation, lets keep this as our little secret, okay??? lol

If not, what the fuck are you doing here anyhow?

You do realize what this board is all about, don't you?

BTW I hope you realize that giving massages complete with "happy endings" is against the law and that you could end up in jail right next to the hookers that you seem to disdain.

If you don't want reviews, I would suggest that you delist yourself, and don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.

I am well aware that there are risks for everyone here. I've unfortunately seen that situation play out too Because of a number of things that I won't bore everyone with, we are all just mitigating our risks based on what we can get away with.  

his post count would be around zero.

from your attitude i would stay far away from bitches like you

I mean BSC Taylor has been MIA for months and we survived, we even lost our little tidwit for a couple of months and new pinatas rose up to take his place.

I am not saying that I really want her to leave, and she has the promise to be quite entertaining. She has just the right blend of arrogance and cluelessness to be a lot of fun I do agree.

and yes please keep reminding me "She is NOT a hooker, she is NOT a hooker, she is NOT a hooker"

I am sure that if I repeat that a couple of thousand more times, I will eventually start to believe it. lol

Had not thought about it in terms of agencies or assistants.  

I don't think this person lied. It is just a poorly worded post. But, yes, violance against escorts is not taken seriously and people do blame the escort not the alledged offender. It isn't just the 'bro code' but society in general.

Any 'bro code' is a stupid figment of his puddle deep imagination. He lied.

but it did really sound like you were indeed trying to minimize the risk to the guys, and I am happy that you admit that you are only commenting from the woman's point of view.

My point is that both sides have a desire to stay safe and sometimes those two goals conflict with each other. Pointing fingers at each other and claiming that "your side" which ever side that is, bears more of the risk than the other is simply not productive to finding middle ground.

She even called me "nice" and that is after reading thousands of my posts AND meeting me in person. To get called out by her is like getting bitch slapped by mrfisher, you really have to have fucked up for that to happen.

I guess it's all in the delivery, I call you a bitch all the time, but of course when I do it it's a "term of endearment" lol

I bet you earthworm really thinks "he told her" but we all know when a guy has to call a woman a "bitch" during a disagreement, we all know who is winning the argument. Game, set and match to DD lol

If I am asked in a way that makes me feel that I am having to jump through hoops or having to "beg to pay for pussy" I too will refuse on general principles, but if "asked nicely" I really don't mind it.

Once things deteriorate into a "demand" I simply lose interest in seeing the woman and break off contact. Demanding something from me is usually a surefire way of NOT getting it. lol

I don't think I've ever been asked my address, except for outcalls to my house or hotel of course.

SFTD has started this same thread probably 4 or 5 times. It's what he does. All of his threads are repeated.

"fucking some stranger without them ever knowing who you are."

And Im active in San Diego just like you. And has been mentioned numerous times on this thread, find providers who match what your willing to supply when it comes to screening. As far as the TER white list I always offer additional info within reason. Sometimes you make this way to difficult.

She also has commented that she's not a prostitute.

Kudos for not getting all defensive.

and funny, we have had some posters that I swear were getting "paid by the word" There is something to be said for brevity. lol

He has posted this same thread before a few times, as well as most of his other threads are repeated. He either likes to stir up shit, likes to read his own posts, or has dementia.

Gambler is Chairman

does a nice job covering the damage I did to the door frame when I bumped it with my junk at the last meeting. Sorry about that.

If I was a guy, I'm sure I would postulate more on the problems they have. But I'm not, I'm just a provider trying to explain where ladies are coming from, without actually speaking for anyone (cause that gets me in trouble, lol). Either way, I've repeatedly acknowledged the risks a guy takes, as well as what increases those risks. I'm not sure how recognizing both sides makes me part of a problem?

I was trying to figure out why she directed that post to me, and then I figured out it was in response to the post by Dr Who that appears and then disappears.

Seriously. Someone please teach me how to post the jerk off gif.

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Call it general principles, I just won't do it.  I'm pretty well known, have a P411 account with a dozen OKs, a substantial review history and white lists.  I respect a girl's right to ask for personal info but if all the other information is not enough I'll simply take my business elsewhere.  Funny thing, though, for all the girls who say they absolutely require my real name, I have never, ever, been declined a date for this reason.
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Not this BSC hooker of course, but other hookers that actually know that they are hookers and are damned good at it.

I do find it amusing when the hookers that don't allow MSOG still claim that they aren't being paid for sex. "I am charging only for my time, but once you cum, times up" and just like this nutjob, they say it with a straight face expecting us to believe them. lol

Actually you can blame DD for me being a bit harsh with our newest BSC hooker. She accused me of "deep down, being a nice guy" I wanted to make it perfectly clear she was wrong. I've worked hard to earn my rep here, I can't have DD ruining it in a single day.lol

It's actually his MO.  He did it before being put on "time out" and he's at it again and again.

She really touched a nerve, didn't she? Poor little guy.  

The same thing happens with harborview and hiddenhills. I know that I like one of them, but can't stand the other. The problem is I can't remember which is which.

But I doubt he knows how to attach the gifs properly.

I know I can get wordy, so I try to keep it shorter so people will actually read it, lol

Ok, I'll fess up, I like you both, lol

Do you mind if we go halvsies on the first lesson, and then I swear I'll be a regular customer? I am not nearly the whore you are, and only have but a few pennies. I want to make sure it's worth it first.

If we are going to dig deep, lets go REALLY fucking deep. lol

Aww, so weird? When I click on either of these posts it goes to Who's, and when I reply to his it goes here?

We ARE NOT hookers!! We are ladies. Paid for our time. Don't hate us because people will pay us to sit silently and separately in a room with them. That's where they find the serenity to come up with all that fantastic erotic fan fiction.  

Along with any other unforeseen event that "could" take place before the customer ever receives a conformation email.

I put up the post without checking on where I was posting it, my bad.

But most of my best friendsreally are hookers. I guess it's natural since I spend more time with hookers than anyone else, it's inevitable that many of them would end up as friends.

I am the least miserable person I know. If you want miserable, try annoyingfungus, he is the most miserable person I can think of with maybe Turdboy running a close second.

1) Find gif.
2) Click on gif (left click if a PC, two-finger click on a MacBook keypad).
3) Select "Copy Image Address" and click on it.  Select "Copy."
4) Open you post here and go down to "picture URL" bar just above the "Post Message" button.
5) Delete the "http://"
6) Click in the box as in 2), then select "Paste."
Post your message. It's actually a lot simpler than it sounds.

Discussing bad behavior, and how it contributes to screening practices? I'm not making that connection. Maybe if I excluded people due to something they can't control like age or race, but people are perfectly free to be screened however they choose. I am somehow biased because I use reason to do something to protect my safety, but somehow you thinking you're a good guy negates all and that's not? Do you just take a girls word for it when she says "oh yeah honey, I am toooootes not crazy and won't up sell and won't steal your car after taking your kidneys"? Doubt it. You check what you need to feel comfortable. And that doesn't make you prejudiced any more than it does me.  

Yes, guys can have their lives ruined and that's not a small thing.  But the hooker is much more likely to suffer violence than the guy.  To me that's worse.
But there certainly is "crazy" on both sides.

i will call her or you that when she acts like it. well really more of a bitchy comment but whatever.

I didn't know how to do it on a computer either, but I am on a phone! Is it possible?

I have always tried to make it clear I did not do the entire screening process.  I simply checked out the guy's references who were TER providers to see if the reference had her own web site and reviews by enough credible guys so she was unlikely to be LE.  For that service I got some free pussy.  But I never had anything more than a guy's email address and TER handle.
It was a great deal while it lasted.

She's delusional if she thinks those disclaimers are worth a damn.  This is so obvious to anyone who knows what they're doing that it makes you wonder.  Not to mention her belief that having detailed reviews means anything at all.  As TER says, the are all "fictional."
I'll be she does the "LE check," too.

I'm sure it's possible but I don't have an iPhone and haven't tried posting gifs from my Sumsung Galaxy.

Props on keeping your rep up! Wouldn't want to think you had any of those "feelings" people talk about.

But I'm still a whore...and not a cheap one either.

I guess I really will have to google it *sigh* lol

My skills extend far beyond those of mere mortals.

Posted By: OhCharlie

Aww, so weird? When I click on either of these posts it goes to Who's, and when I reply to his it goes here?  
   
 Bummer town. I was gonna learn how to post gifs

Are you going to wear that outfit I like while you do it?

Don't worry, your reputation will always be safe with me. LMAO!

Luckily, hiddenhills posted in this thread, and since it didn't mention anything about "I used to bring my ATF lunch fixings so I could camp out at her incall way longer than I had paid for and I still don't get why she didn't like that," I have determined that hiddenhills = me gusta, harborview = not so much.

I will stipulate that you are a highly happy whoremonger.

I'm also wearing those suspenders you like.

As for me, if you won't provide references or a p411 request, then my only other option is work info.  If the man won't do any of those, then sorry. I still need to screen. Whitelist isn't one of my options, and following my requirements is a big partof my screening too...you don't pick how to get screened- I pick how I will screen because it works for me.  Any time I've ever deviated from my system, I've regretted it.

I'm also fine with that fact, because that prejudice is aimed at keeping yourself safe. Screening is a method based solely on prejudice, I honestly can not find a better example of prejudice.

preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience.
"English prejudice against foreigners"
synonyms: preconceived idea, preconception, prejudgment
"male prejudices about women"

As soon as you posted that, I knew which of those guys you didn't like and why. They don't call me the archivist for nothing.
I almost posted to you about the lunch fixin's, but figured you'd get it on your own.
Anyway don't forget, he always brought lots of extra and let her keep the leftovers!

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He makes up his own definitions. Here's an example of what passes for his thought process

Since you don't have right click with an iphone, it is a little trickier to post pics and gifs, but not too hard.
Open the pic in a seperate browser window. Press and hold the pic on the touch screen. Three options should appear. Save image, copy and cancel. Select "copy."
Now open another browser window and go up to the address bar and select paste. The pic or gif should show up on that page. Highlight the url and copy it, then paste it in your TER message box for picture url (after deleting the existing "http://")

He actually made a post that made perfect sense earlier today, so he has a lot of ground to make up.

prejudice

I tried to play along the other day, but this? This I just can't.

It's the tits that just can't seem to get it together!

I find that to be rather sexy.

I guess doing this all day, can piss a dummy off

Why? You wanna be called one? Strange.
Devin's not a bitch. Far from it. She's a HOT BIOTCH! But def not a bitch.  
Guess you prefer the little insecure, timid girls who say yes to anything, giggle a lot and let you slide on screening, huh? Lol, those are the girls I consider bitches.  
Happy hobbying with your bitches
 

Jerks.

So much info?  There is NO reason I am giving you my SSN and pics of my freakin paycheck stub or power bill.  That gets WAY into identity theft.  Plus if you or the agency (if you belong to one) get raided then all MY INFO is just sitting there for Vice detectives to look into.  Now I have to worry about subpoenas etc?  Fuck that!  I have references, I have whitelist etc.  You don't need all that other crap.

if you read the post above she already did. hence, my comment.

If a lady does not want to see me based on my multiple ok's on p411 or my single ter whitelist (for some reason a lot of gals on TER don't seem to use TER, I will go as far as giving my real name and cell #.  Addresses and hime phone, nope.  I will however, in person, show my driver's license with my finger over the address to prove I am who I say I am.  I find however, that none of the gals I have seen have ever asked to see it.  Usually they are OK with p411 and the hooker grapevine I guess.