Its not that I am completely oblivious to the possible reasons but ladies, just wondering what your thoughts might be.

 After her website contact form is filled in and a date is confirmed I will generally communicate through email or on the phone as long as the lady allows it prior to the get-together. This gives me the opportunity to gain a sense of her personalty and allow her a feel for mine.

 This short but sweet communication tends to make the initial meeting less awkward and much more comfortable that much sooner.

 So why is it that on a few occasions I have found myself sitting, talking or just listening while the lady decides to rehash earlier conversations or even takes the time to bring up new business ?
 On one special occasion I actually placed my hand over her mouth and said, Will you please shut the fuck up.

 Where I play it is not uncommon to find more 5 and 600 an hour ladies whose look and experience level back up their better than average reviews.

The session may end up being an awesome fucking experience but at that price point I don't believe that there is room for 20 or 30 minutes or more of " get to know one another " chatter in order to what..... get more comfortable ?

Its P4P, how comfortable does it need to be ?

Now don't get me wrong, I do also spend time with those ladies who enter the room and decide its game on minutes after the door is double locked behind us.
It adds to the allusion that she wants to get right into the nasty and helps to heighten my excitement.

But shouldn't that be the way it works each and every time with each and every lady ?



Ladies, Please save the conversation until the cuddle phase.

You are shitting me right... Too much sex too quick ?

I read the same review that you mention and lots more like it where it seems the lady prefers to sit and chat and chat and chat and intentionally stall for time.

Happened to me once as I mention above where I had to actually ask her to shut up and go change.

I don't want to have to remind the lady making $10 a minute that she is absolutely taking advantage.

To my surprise, I have complaints from the opposite point of view...that I was TOO sexual, and they wanted it slower. WTF lol. If I go to dinner, I will talk then or after the first pop, but I am not going to waste a damn half hour of a 2 hour date yapping your head off about bs. I just read a review of a girl who charges 1000 for 2 hours...guy said she literally talked for 90 min. He got one pop and it was a cbj at that. Really? Yet, she can charge a grand lol.

I prefer the 30 minutes of talk and get to know you time....

I but I plainly state on my website that my sessions 90 min and longer include this in the appt.... so there is no surprise...

I state something like "2 Hour GFE and Cocktails," so they know we will be starting off with at least some conversation. They can book a PSE if they want me to shut up and start sucking at the door lol.

Your gf will want to chit chat, cuddle, dfk before getting down to business. But your ps, after the door is locked will fall to her knees and start that business.

Pleaae correct me if I'm wrong but maybe you should start looking for only PSE pro ladies. Or if they offer both request strictly PSE.

IMHO

I'm not completely unreasonable, I understand that there can be a necessary block of time leading up to the actual intimacy.

I realize that it will take " a few minutes " to have a look around in order to become comfortable with your surroundings. I get that.

It can also take " a few more minutes " for  pleased to meet you chatter while getting close enough to one another to begin exploring. I get that.

Then another minute or two to pose the question  what I would prefer you to change into then make your way to the restroom.

Then there are sometimes more than a few more minutes to check the contents of the envelope, to freshen up, to change into lingerie and to check your phone for any important last minute messages.

There you have it, 15 minutes later we are ready to go.

And if by chance the lady attacks me at the door, (it has happened btw) its looked at as a bonus and usually written in 10's.

If I wanted some hooker to babble nonsense...it's on her dime...NOT mine!!

If the johnnie boy wants to sit there and discuss current events as his session...no issue there.

But at 300+ an hour I am not there to discuss your family situation.  But if you feel the need to spend half the session babbling about that shit...just drop the envelope (actually I prefer that you don't use one) in plain sight so I can make sure you're not ripping me off.

And then when you're done babbling about whatever and are ready to suck my dick...I'll be happy to pay you.  But if it's now only a 15 minute session...I'll pay that rate.  You want to make it the full hour or two...I'll pay that rate.  Your choice  

And this bullshit of "getting to know you"...really?  In 15-30 minutes you'll know me?  Sure...and I've got some great beachfront property to sell you in Tucson  LOL

1, its a common tactic for ladies to eat up your time. One provider I know of was famous for this, would ramble on and on and on, and then when session was almost over she'd say "Oh gosh you talk way too much and hurry and rush the session along"

2. This is a lonely industry for some of the ladies that basically make this their life, meaning they don't get much adult conversation aside from working, so when they have appts they use that time to chit chat

..won't deal with men who have that outlook. They want GFE, but want to take part of what makes it GFE out. That's why I think there needs to be another option called the FDE...the fuckdoll experience..it's not GFE, where there is chat and warm up time and it's not PSE where it's down and dirty raunch from the get go. This new category is for the guy who wants to get into "it" after about 5 minutes and get his monies worth. All the positions, as many acts and as many shots as he can.

Kind of like those who don't eat for a day before going to a buffet to make sure they can cram in as much food as they can. If they eat before, it ruins their whole experience of "I want my monies worth".

As for each and every lady...nope, that's why there is GFE, PSE and now FDE.

Other than that I try to keep conversation to a 15 minute mark

I can do 5 minutes of chit chat leading to some DFK and disrobing. Quick pop BBBJ THEN we can talk while I recharge. Plenty of time left for pop 2 in multiple positions.

Time for the lube beads to liquefy, lol

you come in.  It's your dime and they aren't mind readers.  If they are a gfe, they should give you what you want gracefully.

yea that happens. So since a lady is dealing w/ various types of men who have different needs, some like a lot of conversation, some don't. Don't assume your style is the norm or obvious from an escort if you don't speak up. If you don't want to talk after 10 minutes, then be proactive and let the lady know you'd like to get a bit closer *wink wink* and gently take her hand and guide her to the bed. easy peasy, really. Speak up so those who can't read minds will know what's up.

and our mouths can take over after the bodies get tuckered out.

I was attacked at the door last night by our mutual friend, Samantha.  Barely had time to get the envelope out!  Loved it.

You pay for 4 hours, they spend 2 plus at dinner, the 20 min. drive back to the hotel, and you get what...less than an hour of sex? Total bs! I make sure my client gets 2 FULL hours of bcd, before we head to dinner.

Romeo is literally speaking of women who do on purpose to basically rip a guy off. I am sorry, but if he is paying 5 plus for a damn hour or two and some girl does on PURPOSE to try and only give him 30 min. of sex, I would be pissed as well. If she wants to yap, let her offer an EXTRA half hour for that shit lol. I do that often if I can't shut up.

I think you ALL know me well enough to figure out, I rarely side with the boys BUT in this case...yep, I am. It is one thing is a guy gets pissed that OMG she talked for 10 min. whilst getting undressed, but we are talking a half hour from only an hour? No, I don't think so. If women don't want to deal with guys who book an hour, don't offer a damn hour lol.

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You will LOVE THIS, I once had a provider tell me that

I had my guys "trained" wrong.  That she Always sits with her guests for awhile and visits etc...etc...etc....  and that I WAS WORKING WAY TOO HARD by starting in right away with them like I did, because at THAT TIME,  literally from the second someone walked in my door, I barely let them more then 2 inches away from me.....     Now, I have a different approach..... and it seems to work well for me.   (Yes, I've tamed it down a notch or two)
She said it's all in how you Train your guys....   TRAIN my guys???  REALLY!!???

So, after the initial hug , I have found that THIS approach can be a great way to get to know someone.  I ask them ONE QUESTION.  something along the lines of..... "Do you like it if a girl talks naughty?"   and how they answer tells me all I need to know.   and If I sense someone is more nervous, I definitely take his lead......  body language really says so much.

There time for  casual chitchat later like other people here have mentioned, again, if that's what my friend wants.

IMO, girls that do the 15-30-90 minute of this get to know you banter on a regular basis, do this solely so they are not "working so hard" with you guys.  Plain and Simple.   that is what it is,  IMO.   wait, I actually was told this by another girl , so guess it's more than an opinion I have.

HOWEVER, ON THE OTHER HAND,  I do have friends that totally WANT that visiting time when they first arrive, and they let me know that.... and I am 100% all about giving THEM what THEY want.






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while I am sizing up my date. Doing my recon and formulating my plan of attack.

without expecting anything extra, but cmon. Who the fk wants to pay 3-500 for only an HOUR if she talks for HALF OF IT? That's bs. If you want to yap, have a 2 or 3 hour min. but don't expect a guy to shuck out big bucks for only an hour, and then take advantage of him. Most guys who only book an hour are not the high end seekers, so if you offer an hour, put up or shut up.  An hour is time to get laid and that's about it, and ladies need to learn the market, or the bad reviews will come. Shit, I may need some meds because I can't believe what I am saying here lol.

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For an hour it's all about the blow and go.  But illuminate is one of those hour hookers whose purpose is to soak johnnie boys for the chit chat and 15 minutes of sucking.

Seems like there's a bunch of those deluded hookers on the boards these days.

Too bad TER won't allow the real posts to get on here...then maybe those hookers would really understand why they are getting those low scores  LOL

Seemed like it was working before...you didn't have these insane and deluded one sided threads!!

That's not the first time I've heard that story

And the hookers who do that shit are fairly well known behind the scenes...as you know  LOL

Honestly, when I meet with my attorney and CPA buds to work on a complex issue the hourly rates can easily exceed $ 4,000 per hour.  If you honestly think that I would pay these guys/gals those rates to listen to any of them babble for any amount of time about trivia...WRONG!!

I've had fucking lawyers send me bills for time on jobs and if they try and "sneak" in those extra minutes...good luck in getting paid.

And meeting with a hooker is not even on a par with those sessions.  I arrange for a multi-hour session and I will direct how the session goes.  If the hooker wants to babble for any amount of time...no sweat.  But it won't be on my dime...that I can assure you.

Conversely, I have a number of sweetheart gals that I see that I gladly pay whatever they ask...and AFTER the session I am more than happy to listen to their issues.  And I don't charge them for my time either  LOL

Posted By: portia510

I had my guys "trained" wrong.  That she Always sits with her for Sure and visits etc...etc...etc....  and that I WAS WORKING WAY TOO HARD by starting in right away with them like I do,  literally from the second someone walks in my door, I barely let them more then 2 inches away from me.....  
She says it's all in how you Train your guys....   TRAIN my guys???  REALLY!!???

Hey, THIS is how I get to know someone.  I ask them ONE QUESTION.  "Do you like it if a girl talks naughty?"   and how they answer tells me all I need to know about them.  

There time for  casual chitchat later like other people here have mentioned, again, if that's what my friend wants.

IMO, girls that do the 15-30-90 minute of this get to know you banter on a regular basis, do this solely so they are not "working so hard" with you guys.  Plain and Simple.   that is what it is,  IMO.   wait, I actually was told this by another girl , so guess it's more than an opinion I have.

HOWEVER, ON THE OTHER HAND,  I do have friends that totally WANT that visiting time when they first arrive, and they let me know that.... and I am 100% all about giving THEM what THEY want.

That's on the extreme end, but they do exist...on TER.
crazy, I know

Well you know you have me trained....and I love it

ed without assumptions. There are all sorts out there, even that book one hour dates. They need to take responsibility and communicate too, b/c an escort might jump a guy at the door and that's not what he wants, then you got the 1hr guys who just want cuddling and chatting...if that's what he wants, who are we to say enough is enough, let's just fuck. Oh and the guys with performance issues who just want affection and conversation...lots of them.

If Romeo has an issue, he should speak up or read reviews and only see providers who routinely jump all guys at the door (not scripted of course lol).

She could just be taking a few minutes to try to 'read' what he wants.

I have absolutely no problem at all with conversation. In fact, not only do I enjoy it, I might be slightly unsettled if I was pummeled immediately upon walking in the door (to meet someone whom I had never met before). Not everyone wants the exact same thing.

How could a guy be 'taken advantage of' if he is choosing to continue to engage in the conversation he does not want to be having?

He's a big boy. Say something.

if you feel there is too much talking.

No need to rush into things, unless you only have an hour.

Romeo I heard you are so fking hot you should be getting the envelope EOM

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Sorry it happened to you truly I am . The only talk there should be is the greeting ,a little chit chat over how good the wine and you taste, and after the cuddle saying goodnight.

As I already said in my post below: Not everyone wants the exact same thing.

You bristle at preliminary conversation and interpret that as a lady deliberately taking advantage of you?  OK. And hey…maybe some ladies *are* trying to stall you. Or, maybe they’re nervous. Or maybe they’re trying to get comfortable. Or make you comfortable.

But, if you don't want to chat BCD,....don't.

With that said, your entire gripe seems strangely hypocritical when you say this: “I will generally communicate through email or on the phone as long as the lady allows it prior to the get-together. This gives me the opportunity to gain a sense of her personalty and allow her a feel for mine”

Those ladies are being generous with you in spending that time exchanging email or having phone convos with you so that you have an opportunity to get to know her better (or she you). And nothing wrong with that.

But, she is doing that on her time, not yours (hobby for you =  business for her?). And if you are the one initiating this ongoing exchange, unless you explicitly indicate otherwise, it’s not entirely crazy for her to ‘assume’ you might *want to* have some conversational foreplay, in person, when you walk in the door.  

I have had lots of long conversations, but then again the majority of what I do are overnights or weekends. If I were only going to be there for 2 hours I'm okay with 10 to 15 minutes. After that there are ways to shut you up that are right behind my zipper.

would not see so many damn reviews saying so. Of course there are clients who want to talk and take their time, but gimme a damn break...not many who only book a damn hour. Guys who go for the absolute cheapest possible option, don't want to yack for half of their time unless they are just seriously new and nervous. Those types don't even get a nut at all usually because they are in fact scared puppies, and no...they don't feel ripped off THAT time. Guys who have been around the game don't book just an hour if they want to "get to know a provider." That's bs. Some wonder why they have to change their provider name 3 times a year to try and out run all those crappy reviews...point made.

I keep thinking P4P is supposed to be simple and uncomplicated.

Then I read this board...lol...

I seen some ladies with 2 hour dinner dates, i am yet to find a guy to ay me to watch me eat and talk. i suppose its , well this was my assumption the model types with fancy dresses. I would honestly feel really stupid charging some oenn  to buy me dinner and listen to me yap. I d probly not even do it at all cuz i bet theyd never come back, again my voice is similiar to fran dreshers though, so maybe thats why i dont get guys paying me 1000 for 2 hour s of which some that  2 hours includes eating.
I always toss in the massage stuff cuz in event there is down time during time paID FOR.  i almost feel guilty if i am not doing at least something, i agree thats an awful lot to pay some one to talk. and i am sure the ladies that pull that dont get regulars, . or maybe they have high ptched sexy bambi voice not rowdy x metal singer fran dresheresk voice, hahaha.
I dont know if i can get a free meal atop the 2 hour min, i am not oushin myluck and also asking to be paid . to buiy me dinner? you have to pay ME, to take me for food?
yeah its crazy right?
sometimes  I offer a guy a snakc sometimes I ask if they wanna grab a bite, i have yet to find the guys that pay to watch a lady eat as well as pay for the food, I see alot ladies charge to get taken out for some food, after already getting ALOT for an appt, so well good for them, The day i charge some oen to watch me eat, hmm,
i havent gotten to that point but all the more poewer to people whatver works for them is cool. i personally wouldnt have the cohones to charge some one who just gave me a g note to then also pay me to watch me eat. I am not very well maNNERED WHEN I EAT ANYWAY I TEND TO TALK WITH FOOD STUCK TO YM NOSE AND YELL AT THE WAITERS N WAITRESS ALOT TOO, SO. GO FIGURE,

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We are talking more about dates that are short in duration purchased by guys who just want to fk. For all these saying that hourly guys just want to talk, I call bs. I am not saying it does not happen at all, but I did the hourly thing for 2 year along with many other providers I know personally, and the clientele is not the same. It was most always guys who were trying to get in as much sex time possible in the shortest time period, and if you did yap they expected to go over the time paid for. Now, most provider have a two hour min. at least. Why do you think that is? To avoid such guys. If a woman is going to charge by the hour and claim you can get a true gfe, then of course she is going to want to talk some when he arrives, but the problem is most hourly guys really want a pse, for a gfe rate.

London is right.  I think you need to balance the two.  Little chat and loving.  Some want more and some want less.

For those saying the guy should try and rub on her, insist she shut up, or just start pawing at her boobs, consider that some men in the hobby are still respectful when it comes to that type of thing...yea, I know hard to believe lol. Many guys feel a woman might try to cry rape, or make him leave if he is too forceful about getting to the sex, so they just allow her to take control of things. We are the professionals here, not the other way around and it is our JOB to read the client. I have never had a guy refuse me when I went for his zipper, but I have had older men complain that I was "too much" for them, and they wanted more kissy, gooey type bs. Well, see another hooker lol.

should be part of the time paid for. fyi.
thats a tad unfair and yes if i were you i d be bs too, I wouldnt factor that in as part of the date time, If i am not dressed in my outfit and i stopped qwearing my thigh highs under the dog walkn outfit i scramble to get my dog out for one last chaance to pee right before guest arrives and found i was ripping nylons n goin though thoigh highs like crazy. so i alot times wear incomspicous clothing out to walk dog, unsespecting, in fact in my days off i dress like mellissa etheridge, hiking boots and baggy flannel pants no really.
so I think the gfe/pse whatever they r offering shouldnt include paying for time spent getting jackets hung and or getting dressed into the appt gear. for me is thigh highs garter belt mandatory, maybe sometimes college girly girl not mature women lingeraie more like cute teeny bopper viccy secret pink collection bra n panty sets maybe w jknee hiughs n stripper shoes.
but ,
yeah payin for time spent gettn ready to head into the bed totally would be a bummer.

intiate the beginning f the appointment, definetly,

well you get what you give out, girls who aren't like that wont get into email convos with you they will just reply back politely but say call me so if you have had a girl emailing you loads back then that is the person you have picked a chatter box.

I suppose I really am one of the "true gfe" types of providers.  I want to know how your day was, what has been happening with you since we last talked or saw one another.  It seems the gents I see seem to want this as well.  However, I put this very plainly on my site; I tend to run over time, so if you are not looking for that, its very simple; just let me know!

I am not saying I do not have friends who want to move things on a little faster, I am all for that as well! Variety is the spice of life after all!  It is all about communication.  If you arrive and sit back and relax with a drink, Im going to take my time with you.  If you tell me right away that you dont have a lot of time, well then, lets get down to it !  

Obviously both reading the gents previous reviews and talking to their referrals is one way for a lady to know what a man prefers, and allows her to prepare herself for the type of encounter they will have.  The same goes for the men; thats why they are here on TER isnt it?  Research goes both ways.  If I read a mans reviews and it seems like what he is into isnt what I think I can provide, I will graciously let him know that I think we will not be a good match.  I would much rather turn someone on to another provider that I think is better suited, than to have both he and I have a less than stellar experience together.

Life is too short to not enjoy what we do!