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Guilt, morals and ethics; So similar yet so different
YourKarmaSuitsYa 4264 reads
posted
1 / 19

I lost my job recently. Partly my fault, partly politics. To say the least my world is caving in. Reading this board is now a painful reminder of happier care free days of social/sexual adventure. For the last 10 months I have agressively tried to increase my income so as to indulge in this hobby more often. Ironicly I now end up scrambling just to make the mortgage payment.  Is this my "Karma" coming back to bite me??. Should I have been happier with my lott and left it at that. Is this hobby a wrong thing and the universe is telling me so under no uncertain terms??.  
  I don't regret the money spent on the hobby over the months. The trouble is the dispare in not being able to continue it.

This is NOT a "retirement notice" but more like a forced leave of absence.

  Wish me luck gang....I need it!

    YKSY

 

SULLY 24 Reviews 4744 reads
posted
2 / 19

dude I feel your pain-  been there- only getting back to work now...

orthodx 13 Reviews 5540 reads
posted
3 / 19

I like you am a guy who lives in the moment and doesn't really plan for the future.  I have also aggressively increased my work output in order to pay for my ATF.  Obviously I could do without my ATF but I choose not to for the moment.  Would the money be better off sitting there to help with my retirement or allow me to do other things?
If you are married with children and have put your family at risk, then for you the hobby was a bad thing.  But if not, you chose to live in the moment as have I so no, I don't think it was a bad thing.

Sex is such a basic fundamental need and desire, it is hard to imagine being without it and the hobby does supply a quick "fix".  But there are other ways to get sex without the hobby.

I do wish you luck as you embark on this new part of your life.  I doubt you will need much luck, I am sure you will be just fine.

My .02

A Spectator 2189 reads
posted
4 / 19

one has to step off the train.  For some of us, the ride might be repeated a few times, but the feelings would probably be different and the goals are usually no longer the same.

Sometimes a break from hobbying helps to rejunvenate the spirit and clarify in your mind what you really want out of this hobby and other personal relationships.

Take care,

GC

crownand7 5623 reads
posted
5 / 19

I don't really believe in Karma, so I'd have to say no.

JMHO, but I believe we make our own destiny. It's not pre-ordained in the stars. I'm sorry you lost your job, and now find yourself struggling. I wish you the best of luck in finding a new job.

People here call this a "hobby". I think that word works pretty well. We should never allow this to be an all consuming part of our lives. Participate when you desire, and when you can afford to participate, (and that means emotionally as well as financially.)

Good Luck and best wishes.

rondo51 11 Reviews 3086 reads
posted
7 / 19

I have found that things tend to go in cycles.  I was making a great deal of money, saw my ATF at least twice a month, etc.  Then I was laid off.  Soon after, I wound up in the hospital with a life-threatening illness.  Then my ATF retired from the business.  Other bad things happened.

Finally, I got better, found a good job and have a new ATF that I see about twice a month.  I am on the upswing now, but realize that things could change overnight.  Now I am prepared for the next swing of the pendulum.

Just my perception.

sedonasandiego See my TER Reviews 3613 reads
posted
8 / 19

It has merely been 'adjusted'.

"When the going gets tough, the tough get going". You pull up your boot straps, wipe off the dust, and tear into it with even more determination.

Life is what you make it - and we should treasure the tough times because it allows us the opportunity to see what we're made of!

AngelOfSurrey See my TER Reviews 3542 reads
posted
9 / 19

Sorry to hear about you job loss.  But everything does happen for a reason.  Sometimes we need to lose something to appreciate what we do have (and what we had).  If everything remained stable all the time, we lose our ability to truly appreciate, since all the wonderful things in our lives would be constants and become expected and normal to us.  We need contrasts to really appreciate the good times.

I realize that you are frusterated right now, but try to see the good in it.  Focus on the relationships that you have in your own life. Work on developing those, and finding ways to make yourself happy.  Be thankful for all of the things which you still have (your health, your senses, your family, your home, freedom to do do and say what you want), because as you have just learned, things we take for granted can be taken away from us in a momment.  Live your life everyday, and see the wonderment of everything around you.

I do hope that you find another well-paying job soon, so that you can return to the spending style you are accustomed to.  But I also hope that you realize that money (and hobbying) are not what makes you happy or unhappy.  They may provide a temporarry escape, but you are the one who is responsible for your own happiness.

"Without sorrow, there can be no happiness, without evil, there is no good, and without darkness, there is no light"

VonRyan 15 Reviews 2898 reads
posted
10 / 19

Keep your chin up
Keep the faith
Keep on truckin

....a door will open up for you.

Some Nerd 4502 reads
posted
11 / 19

What's the old saying? "Everytime one door closes another one opens"?  Something like that...

Anyway, I'd say it's too early to conclude this has been a bad turn of events.  No doubt it may cause you a little pain in the short term.  But in the long term you may be a much happier person becuase of it.  You'll probably appreciate the little things more, and who knows, you may end up in a new position/new career that maked you happier than you have ever been.

Cheer up!  Keep a good attitude and things will work out.

sassysinfullady See my TER Reviews 3492 reads
posted
12 / 19

i agree 100%. great words for everyone to read...

Dionisios 22 Reviews 3398 reads
posted
14 / 19

I just started working again after being unemployed for 10 months.  So I extend all the best wishes I have in me to give.  

Contrary to what some others have posted, this is a bad thing, period.  But it's not the final round.  You will find employment again, although nobody can predict how long it will take.  Meanwhile, as long as you have food, clothing, and shelter it could be worse.

I must also disagree that there's a reason for everything that happens.  Life is in large part governed by random events, with the probablities governed by larger forces.  Right now the ecomomy sucks, jobs are disappearing, and you happen to be the one that got hit this time.  No Karma, no grander plan, just the plain old law of averages.

What worries me is your dispair at not being able to see providers.  (I truly hate the term "hobbying".)  If this feeling persists for a little while (2 weeks or so) I think you should seek help.  To enjoy the favors of these wonderful ladies is normal.  To be disappointed at not being able to for a time is also perfectly normal.  But to feel that life isn't worth living because you can't?  Then the the feeling is a much bigger problem than the fact.

Truly my best wishes and deepest sympathy.

Slowstart 8 Reviews 4191 reads
posted
16 / 19

Since getting into the hobby I know that statement is not true.  I have never had more direct results from spending a some of money and coming away feeling truly happy.  Sometimes I have driven away wondering if one hour of anything else could bring such happiness and contentment.

Like this poster I have had some serious business problems during the past few months and have had to cut way back on the hobby.  And I know how this guy feels.  It is something I really miss.  Not ready to stop living by any means, but life without the hobby is no where as sweet.

As for bad karma, most of my business friends are having the same problems and one of the most religious guys I know is really having serious trouble.  So I don't think you can see it as a bite in the ass for your hobby activities.  To much company out there with millions of others in the same boat.  

For me things are turning around and I have a long list of gals I want to see.  I'll be like a kid in a candy store catching up.
I may just have to do some threesomes to save time.  What a pitty.

justdontgetit 3462 reads
posted
17 / 19

I can relate and hate to see someone in the same position as me. but after reading all these posts and seeing how many guys here actually "live for this hobby" so to speak, that lost their jobs and then had to cut way back, I really wonder, how do you ladies feel knowing that some (ok, more than just some?) of your clients do this out of what some may call an almost obsession? do you ever feel guilt?

CumToThinkofIt 3663 reads
posted
18 / 19

Is a salesman supposed to feel guilty for selling a $50,000
SUV to a young family whose income is say $20,000/year. Or how about selling a 150 horsepower race-replica crotch rocket motorcycle to a 18 year old kid who doesn't even have a motorcycle licence.
  This shit happens every day and nary an eyebrow is raised. I'm sure there are many ladies in our community that both look out for and counsel their clients about not running amok. Whether a provider has saintly concern or the heart of a mercenary the truth is they are operating under the principles of business ethics which are far and away different from morals.

sparker 35 Reviews 3586 reads
posted
19 / 19
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