cheating on them if you're involved in sexual intercourse with other people only for physical gratification and with zero emotional attachment.

Men can have orgasm with zero emotoinal attachment. I'm wondering if women can do the same thing. In other words, can physical stimulation alone give you orgasms or do you need to feel intimate or have some sort of emotional attachment to that person? If it's all physical, do you think that then it wouldn't be considered cheating.

Its a job
and thats how its thought of on both levels..

Most I know, that is their feelings as well
Matter of fact, a friend  I know thats an escort, her husband had to cancel an appointment for her( hes a savvy business man himself ) She had to fly out of town for her real work as well) The hubby and hobbyist had a nice hour long conversation about politics. LOL

Another friend of mine, her husband takes her appts and is her driver, while owning three business's of his own. She is as well a dancer. Seems as if as long as the SO has a part in it and can control it in some aspect, there isnt a problem. A job is a job.

Another, he is a popular photographer for many models all over the world. His wife is an escort. While he is photographing gorgeous woman all day, she is bopping men all day.

As for emotional atttachment. We dont fall in like or love with everyone we encounter. In all professions its best to never mix business with personal lives.

There are instances of marriage. Apparently people that can already handle life in general.

As for committed relationships, no clue, if it bothers them, they should've never gotten into it in the first place.

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then it would be cheating.

I guess you could say I do have an emotional attachment to my hand.

Women can certainly achieve an orgasm without emotional attachment but with that said I would contend that there are many providers worthy of Academy Award Nominations for their performances. It's a common sentiment by men that a total non committal "emotionless" physical tryst with another woman is not cheating but that goes over like a fart in church with the vast majority of women. I have an ATF/best friend who is near perfect in separating sex from intimacy however even with her profession what it is ANY indication on my part that another provider is/was more than a physical release is met with a detectable level of wrath.

I think the fine print of wedding vows does state "zero emotional attachment sex"  is not cheating.  That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

I only consider it cheating if you're lying about it. I feel that way about everything, not just sex. Cheating is snitching a couple dollars from your hubby's wallet so you can get that little sweater he said the budget was too tight to accomodate. Cheating is making tomato soup and grilled cheese sandwiches after you sat around watching Oprah all day but told him your day was just too wild and hectic to make a roast. Cheating isn't about how you get off, it's about the lies.

I have orgasms without emotional attachment. Even when I'm with someone I care for, orgasms don't need to be anything but a result of pleasant physical stimulation.

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It ain't FREE or CHEAP Holeyd... you are paying a cheat fee for that Zero Emotion Atachment Sex.

You said "committe relationship". If you have to lie about it, it is cheating.

You're cheating yourself if you think there's "zero emotional attachment" in hobbying; you would not be in this hobby if there were no emotions involved.


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well i am single so above does not apply to me but i have seen enough committed relationships ruined over the years due to the "cheating"  Would be better if all this was legal.  I have seen too many good couples break up b/c the hubby had his attention diverted to a young girl at work or when the issue became public knowledge.

I thought this was about significant others, not wives.

No matter what the context.  I don't judge people, but that is what it is, IMO anyways.

Best,
Tamara

What hurt the most in the failed marriage was the lies - and they continue.  The failure to understand that when you give your word - that is it.  How many times do you have to keep your word to be trustworthy?  How many times do you have to break your word to be untrustworthy?  

With respect to orgasms and sex.....  if you SO masturbates - do you get jealous of their hand? or toy?  don't think so....   curious - sometimes the obvious is hidden in plain sight.

after I started escorting I got into a relationship for a while. One of the first things I told this guy after we met was about my job and that I had no intention of changing it. He said he was cool with it. After a while he started trying to interfere with my business and started pushing me to quit. Needless to say things did not work out but I would have to wonder in this type case who is realy cheating? The provider who was upfront from the start? Or the gent who either lied from the start or changed his mind later?

Personally I wouldn't see a provider if I know she has an SO, for many reasons. What if the SO had no idea she's doing this and found out about what she did? I sure wouldn't want to be harassed by her SO. Apparently it didn't make a difference that you're upfront with him on what you do for a living; I think there are very very few real gents who would be okay with their SOs doing this for a living. Loving couples want their SOs to be available for them, both physically and emotionally. Let's face it. This job could be stressful at times, both physically and emotionally. Like it or not, it has both its physical and emotional elements; I don't think you can isolate them.

When did you tell him about what you did? At the start of the relationship or you were already deep into it. I think it makes a difference. I don't think I would have a problem dating a provider but should I become in love with one, I'd want to see her quit this job or have a plan to quit it at some point.



-- Modified on 1/27/2006 8:18:35 AM

Her version of the vows apparently said something such as "You only have to put out once every 3 to 6 months.  And you don't have to enjoy it."

"Men can have orgasm with zero emotional attachment.  I'm wondering if women can do the same thing."

I imagine that since most women can get themselves off through masturbation, dildos or vibrators that they are capable of orgasm without emotional attachment.  

Of course I might be wrong and perhaps she is emotionally involved and in a committed relationship with her jack rabbit vibrator.  Hmmm.  Of course if she is emotionally attached to her jack rabbit vibrator, does it mean that she is cheating on the vibrator when she has sex with you ????  Inquiring minds want to know.