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HangingwithBears 1024 reads
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Thumbs up for telling it like it is and you wonder why there are guys like me who refuse to give out our real info. This has never happened to me but I still wouldn't risk it and I'm surprised by how many guys have no problem giving out their real info only to find it on some BL site.

The scoring system here is skewed so heavily toward the high end that it's essentially useless. I've had my share of not so great appointments but I'd never be stupid enough to post a review. It comes down to the old saying, if you don't have anything good to say, don't say anything. On this site, telling the truth can get your ass nailed.

I laugh at ads bragging about pages and pages of 10/10 reviews. Any provider bragging like this is an immediate pass because I know it's BS. Keep up the good work CO :-)

What is with the recent threats of saying guys have diseases, that they're raping and assaulting providers just or a low review score?!

If you are THAT insecure, you shouldn't be a provider. I'm not talking to those of you who really have come across assholes, but the providers who are USING the blacklist sites to get good reviews. You're fucking it up for everybody.

BTW, I hope to GOD you are not using their real names. You'll ruin them. So fucking what if they want to tell you what they REALLY think about you. Your reviews are LIES if this is what you're doing, which shows you're LYING about this shit.

To those who see posts like this, take a look at the provider's reviews and see the score the dude gave them.

Peace, I leave with you… and karma.

xoxo

Courtney Ova

-- Modified on 11/19/2013 7:31:21 PM

Yah, just so happens all these guys have never had an STD or pulled some dumb shit until AFTER some ego inflated drama queen got a low score or her misrepresentation was brought to light. They know damn well once ONE guy posts that, others will now think it's safe to start telling the TRUTH.  It's pathetic. Women are blacklisting guys for a damn NCNS and putting their real names on blacklist sites. The entire warning system to protect us is rendered useless, because you don't know wtf to buy anymore.

-- Modified on 11/19/2013 8:11:57 PM

They may be ruining their business because they just may be spreading rumors about themselves not knowing it…

oopsie!

our real names are being posted somewhere????? I would never ask a provider her real name, and I only give mine because I respect her need for security in the screening process. But I must admit I am alarmed that my real name could be out there on a hobby board.

GaGambler1329 reads

sometimes for the slightest of perceived transgressions. Sometimes something as little as a 8/9 review, or a NCNS.

I don't mind giving out my real information, but only because I don't give a fuck where it ends up, as I have already been outed nationally without a bit of negative impact on my life, but that's me. I guarantee you, if being outed could cause any problems in my life, there is no fucking way I would ever trust that information to some of the BSC hookers on this board, and IMO the higher her rating, the less I would trust her with my info. Hell hath no fury like a BSC hooker with a bunch of 10/10's who all of a sudden gets an 8/8. Don't say you haven't been warned.

Yes, give the wrong bitch a 7, and see where you end up. It is that pathetic! You guys need to start using an alias and P411. So many hooktards have fked it up for the rest of us! Trying to screen a newbie is just impossible because they are scared to death of this shit happening!

I don't have a SO, so my concern is not about being personally outed. But, I don't need to be outed on a professional level. Although I can't imagine someone I work with admitting that they saw my name on a hobby site. I am P411, by the way if I've let my P411 account expire, can providers still see my verifications?

Simply check whatever name(s) you use...or have used, including your real name.  Make sure to add a keyword like "blacklist" and see if anything shows up.

Many hookers will call it a BL...but it's really nothing more than a DNS list that is personal only for them and maybe a few of her pals.  It isn't on any website.

But there are plenty of dudes on the NBL (as well as other asinine blacklist sites) and may not have any clue.  Do a search.

Make sure you use some Head and Shoulders before you see Yvette.  Dandruff is a guaranteed blacklist...unless you pay her a bribe and give her a 10/10.  

Posted By: russbbj
our real names are being posted somewhere????? I would never ask a provider her real name, and I only give mine because I respect her need for security in the screening process. But I must admit I am alarmed that my real name could be out there on a hobby board.

Giving out your real name to a perfect stranger is dangerous in this biz. Pass on those providers demanding your real info and keep yourself safe. You don't have to do anything wrong to end up on a blacklist site, all it takes is one whack job.

Dear Ms. Rayne:
It sounds like one of the books that you wrote for kids in Elementary School called the " Hooker who cried wolf". However you are right, now you have to question any woman who does not have her credibility sufficiently developed. Anybody else you will have to take it with a grain of salt. It is really tough to get a handle on the credibility and the reliability of the courtesans in question.

For those of us who aren't 10/10s we do this thing called developing a personality.  

Because threats and throwing tantrums adds wrinkles and I'm way too young to look like Yzma.  

I've never had to blacklist anyone, thanks to screening and references;  unfortunately some ladies think that EVERYTHING is blacklist worthy including something as petty as his toenails weren't clipped and they scratched her leg. No seriously that's happened.  

Not all hookers are intelligent, mature or vaguely interested in their reputation.  

You just gotta know what you can take at face value.

It's amazing what happens when those who 'think' they are all that get a wake up call lol. So sad.

Your career as an 'exotic courtesan' are over. Half these btchs can't even pronounce the crap they claim to be so why would we expect them to be honest in their assessment of someone they've met for a qv at 60 a pop then two weeks later charge 300. Hmm. And the world keeps turning.

not life altering.

Drama turns to infection when it's out of pure malicious intent.

That story is now playing out on the DC board. At first I wasn't sure, but now I'm siding with the client in this case.

Yep...seen this story more than once her in TERland  ;)

And the hookers who are defending her didn't even read Yvette's bullshit....let alone the review.

I'll bet those with dandruff are really scared now  :D

Would it not be great if guys started posting blogs with all these threats in the name of said providers? When you googled their names, their long line of BSC tactics would be right there. Not a rumor, but shit that is right there in print from the provider's email or handle. Priceless. Providers can also be put on National Blacklist. Yup.

Cannonhome11113 reads

I'm with the client on this one. She's a liar. The DC post is gone now. But if I remember correctly, she advertises her age as 31 to 35. Took a look at her pics when the client remarked that she looked like the older sister or even the mother. He is correct that she is much older. Tell tale signs of age are in the neck and especially the hands. She is more like 40's in my opinion. No way she is 31 to 35. His review has the ring of truth. Shame on her!

Posted By: xnyong
That story is now playing out on the DC board. At first I wasn't sure, but now I'm siding with the client in this case.

Sometimes it's greed.  They need to keep those top scores -- they think -- in order to keep the Johnnies rolling in with fat envelopes.  Nothing personal.  Just business.  Then again, some of them are also BSC. The good thing is, their punishment is they are condemned to live inside their nasty, angry heads.

True, BUT. You said two words.. Nasty - Angry

Why are they nasty and angry? Is it really money, or is it status?

There's an Occupational Prestige scale, right? And income also counts in there on a different scale. (I'm speaking from a 101 class I took like four years ago, ok?)

We, as do many other countries, have a mindset of judging one's stability by their jobs, income, and what they have. How well they're doing by… numbers and ranks… right? We judge ourselves the same way.

So… I meant insecure in this way...
A person who is SECURE in their abilities will take an average review at work, let's say, and go "I need to improve. It says right here I was not bringing the numbers up anywhere near my goals." They have performance goals, and they want to work to get to those goals. "Well, I disagree, there's nothing I can do about these things, but here's what I CAN improve." Sucks to hear it, but boy is it liberating when you start seeing the numbers go up because someone told you the truth.

A person INSECURE in their abilities will take that average review at work and deny any mistakes they made, and insist they were perfect all year. (10 / 10) But why? EVERYBODY knows that NOBODY is perfect. Ever. Blackmail in the workplace… politics… is how these people stay in their positions.  
We either...
1. Don't want others to see our weaknesses, especially colleagues who have looked up to us, seeing an image of perfection all this time… now there's a hook. Something others see, and they can start digging for more clues. Once the eye is on us, they'll find something wrong, because there is always going to be things that we can improve.
2. We don't want to see it for ourselves. All this time we've thought we were as great as everybody said we were… made ourselves believe, even knowing we up-selled ourselves. It's an eye opener, and it's painful.
3. If we've made ourselves out to be perfection, there's no moving up. Only down. So we fight to stay at the top. (Think about the crimes in the church. One crime is exposed, the media digs and find more cases. This is not to that extreme, just an example.)
4. The higher we are, the farther we fall. The greater the exposure. (Think snuff and drunken stupor. The guy is all over the news. Everyone's making fun of him.)
It's all about being vulnerable and exposed.

It's very freeing to say a quote I heard recently. "I thought I was right, but I guess I was wrong." Said by a CEO.

Surrender. Sounds scary, but it is liberating. Open your arms and embrace your weaknesses so you may become stronger. When I am weak, then I am strong.

Dissociation in psychiatry: The separation of a group of mental processes or ideas from the rest of the personality, so that they lead an independent existence, as in cases of multiple personality. (Dictionary.com)

We can make ourselves believe we're something we're not. How many of us have a story about what we 'do', and lie to our families and friends so well that we ourselves believe it? The day we're truly exposed will be a day we have to choose whether we run away, kicking and screaming, bitter, angry, and damaging others CONSTANTLY making us even more bitter…

Or

Just admit it and say "Hey fuck you and deal with it."

Psychology Today's featured article by Courtney Ova  

lol.

P.S. That worker's numbers didn't go up bc he was on TER all day.

-- Modified on 11/19/2013 10:10:41 PM

How do I know this? Because if you look at the Regional Top 100, half the providers are less than 500! I've never even lived in a place where a Top 100 existed, yet my rates have increased 4 times over the years. Had nothing to do with me looking better or performing better either. The ONLY reason was because of additional income. I would starve to death being London Rayne alone....just the facts. Though posting on TER might be most of my life, fkin for money is NOT lol.

I'm in shock! No sane provider admits to these things LR so you must be insane. Or maybe just clever but insane people tend to be very clever so there ya go.

BTW, your rates seem to be inversely proportional to the size of your pussy so there is a reason why they're so high :-)

Paleeze, I've never been one to brag about such stupid and subjective things lol.

and saying the reviews are a lie or inaccurate only brings attention to that review, lol…

Psst. Your reviews brag already. What's the need?

Cosette1146 reads

But I guess with a lot more at stake since it's someone's business and someone's health reputation. Her writing reminded me of a note passed around, the non-needed question and the cutesy ending.

This is supposed to be fun and mutually beneficial for both parties :(

It's not for fun...it's a job.  And the only one that is paying those bills.

When a gal is exposed for being indiscrete like Yvette....it can (and hopefully will) put a serious crimp in her cash flows.  Hence too many gals are so manipulative in getting those 10's....it directly translates to higher rates and more inquiries.

The gals who are worth those higher fees don't play on TER...they are UTR and stay away from any drama.  

These other gals actually start to believe the fake reviews they "force" those johns to write about them.  And too often a 10/10 gal is a middle aged mediocre looking woman with, at best average skills in sex.
 

Posted By: Cosette
But I guess with a lot more at stake since it's someone's business and someone's health reputation. Her writing reminded me of a note passed around, the non-needed question and the cutesy ending.  
   
 This is supposed to be fun and mutually beneficial for both parties :(

Cosette1028 reads

I'm not usually a black and white person, but clearly wouldn't the right thing have been to end and refund?

That way a review can't be posted if she cares so much about them. People aren't understanding that money was still exchanged. She has managed to change the conversation for some into a health thing, when it was simply a money thing. Right thing to do IS end, but don't accept any money.

GaGambler1246 reads

She doesn't want to do the "right thing" she want to protect her "top ten" status of review scores, and isn't above blackmail and extortion to do so. She only managed to "change the conversation" for the new or stupid members here. Everyone else knows exactly what she is trying to do.

Cosette1048 reads

it really became a 2 sided argument, the post was pulled but there were both men and women taking her side. I can't quote now but things to the effect of you did the right thing! and he's disgusting! (from a male). Only one person managed to ask "Did you reimburse?" To which there was no reply except for someone on her side saying, "Her time is valuable (scary red face)".

I know her motives, but still surprised me that other people were divided.

GaGambler991 reads

none of that surprises me in the least anymore. After a while you learn that type of behavior is just SOP around here.

'did you make that money request?'

From what I got out of that, since I read the review, more money was requested and she wouldn't tell anyone.

hi there

i just read this post and i cant believe this goes on.

alley

xo

You know who I mean; the ones who sob about the "board meanies."  And there were plenty who swallowed Yvette's lie.  But the meanies, who are professional skeptics and wise in the ways of this game, cried "bullshit." And it was bullshit.  Bottom line:  this is a tough business and sometimes a tough board.  Don't come on here if you don't have your shit together.  Or if you do, bring a thick skin.  Tough is safe.  Idiots, BSC hookers, stalker Johns, manginas and WKs are not Protected Species here.  If you don't like it, go to some other board.

Thumbs up for telling it like it is and you wonder why there are guys like me who refuse to give out our real info. This has never happened to me but I still wouldn't risk it and I'm surprised by how many guys have no problem giving out their real info only to find it on some BL site.

The scoring system here is skewed so heavily toward the high end that it's essentially useless. I've had my share of not so great appointments but I'd never be stupid enough to post a review. It comes down to the old saying, if you don't have anything good to say, don't say anything. On this site, telling the truth can get your ass nailed.

I laugh at ads bragging about pages and pages of 10/10 reviews. Any provider bragging like this is an immediate pass because I know it's BS. Keep up the good work CO :-)

Well… it's more just sayin' than anything.

F*ckin pisses me off when innocent people get nailed when some of these guys really have deep hearts and would do nothing to hurt anyone.

May I re-state: When you see a rumor about a hobbyist by a provider, look at the review he gave her, lol

all of her other reviews and those pages of 10/10's she brags about. I'm glad you get it, many don't or don't want to. Scores are everything to them, they believe their rates are tied to their scores and overall average as well as where they rate in the top 100. It's all bullshit, those top 100 aren't there because they're God's gift to men, they're high up because they manipulated the review system, the TER staff and most of all, the guys who reviewed them.

You get it :-

a sexually transmitted disease. And the mortality rate is 100%.

Cosette1636 reads

Someone named Ivette from DC area (10/10 girl) posted on here and on the DC board (both have been taken down) that she had a bad review 5/5.

She claims she saw "blisters" and her health is important so she ended it early.

His review said she told him it was herpes and wanted $$$$ not to tell anyone.

She's got the money, but she also the review.

I believe she blacklisted him on a list.

I sent you a PM Tobi. Another hobbyist who is a major player called her out for "being up to her old tricks again with the blackmail and threats." He gave her an 8/8 a few years back and she sent him messages begging for the review to be pulled or she would ruin him. Review stood and he still has those messages. Just an FYI...TER does take this shit VERY SERIOUSLY so if you EVER get such threats from some crazy bitch, send them in tact to Admin. Watch how fast she gets banned.

Cosette1347 reads

You're right on the review, but she's in DC now, says so on her site.

Something funny though when reading the site, are there no copywriters for escort sites? If there aren't, people should definitely get on that freelancing gig. Her site is full of spell errors, and has a funny line on the homepage, "Atlas... You found me and you never need to look no more". When clearly she meant "At last".

Made me smile

Here… let me re-write it…

"*WARNING... You found me, and you've no need to look further."

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