You're missing out! Happy New Year's Eve everyone! 😘

 I'm making this post because I've noticed a trend lately. I'm a provider, and every once in a while, I'll get a date request from someone who clearly hasn't visited my site. I've gotten atleast 5 requests for dates before January 3rd - but it's on my homepage that I'm not available until the 3rd.  

Even I visit other provider's pages cause I have a few crushes and like to imagine being with a beautiful woman like most of you men on here 😏 And on her site there's always important info there like touring dates, info about donations, and more info about them. I could never book a provider without getting a whole picture first and you can't do that without visiting her site.

There's also important info my site that's being missed:

♡ Like my required date request form which I use to easily manage my date requests.  

♡ My donation protocols.  

♡ The fact that my nipples are pierced. (I know some guys don't like piercings so I think that's important.)  

♡ The fact that I don't take trips to Greece, which is also very important if your looking for that.  

♡ And lastly, all my rates including the special getting to know me drinks/dinner only date that I offer. Which isn't shown on TER.

Long story short if she has a site and you're going to book her, read her site and you'll both have a better experience 😊

that being said you do need to put some money into creating a professional site.  

 
Your site looks like those myspace sites or AOL homepages that folks used to have back in the 90s. Maybe you are too young to have firsthand witnessed what I am talking about about if your advertised age is anywhere close to your real age.  

 
And how about put that shit on NY page.. Doesn't NY have their own page..

I thought it was fine. And much better than many of them.

Nothing wrong with her site, chill out!

That being said, I am more irked by shit like this on GD board than the "quality" of her website.

Your photos are very beautiful and you appear to be a truly lovely woman! To address your point, I think you will always have some clients not look at your site, or maybe more accurately, will just skim it. You say it only happens "once in awhile" so that doesn't strike me as anything out of the ordinary but I know it must be frustrating at times.
The one thing I did notice reading your site is that it is a little difficult to read. You use multi-colored, upper case fonts which is just a bit tough on the eye and may make it more likely a gentleman will skim over certain key parts of your site. Just a thought. Have a great and safe 2022 and beyond!

Your last line above: "Long story short if she has a site and you're going to book her, read her site and you'll both have a better experience."

I agree with you 100%.

As wordy a person as I am, I appreciate the importance of paying attention to what someone writes. In the P4P world, reading everything in an escort's website(s) or everything in her ad(s), can be among the best time-saving steps a potential client can take. I'm the one will will be seen as a time-waster if I contact her with questions that she's already answered ahead of time by placing the information on her website and/or in her ad. More than once, escorts have dealt with the frustrations of being asked such questions.  

Often, I'll read something she's written that has me stop right there and move on to the next woman, based on something she doesn't allow (for instance, DFK), something that she's into but I'm not (for instance, recreational drug use during a session), something about her that doesn't fit my likes and desires (for instance, 18 years old), or a logistical restriction (for instance, can only see clients late evenings, or is too far away from me). If I don't read what she's already got posted, its my own fault. On the other hand, some escorts' websites or ads are pretty bare-boned, or skimpy on details. You mentioned that you post your rates, but not every escort does that, and some escorts even change the rates once the guy is face to face with them. Lots of other information is either included or lacking from one escort to the next, all depending on what she personally sees as relevant to have in her website. Potential clients also focus on certain key elements on escorts' websites and ads based on what they like.

Another way websites are not always accurate is when they're not updated. One agency website I know of I had to learn the hard way that every single escort is listed as being 18 or 19 or early 20's, even though many of them have been listed there for up to 7 or 8 years. The website is never, never, never updated. I know that many, many, many clients of all ages are looking to have sex with 18-year-old escorts, and that's fine, but it doesn't describe what EVERY client is looking for. It's a marketing move. The lowest common denominator is used to attract the highest number of potential clients. Aside from that, it's also time-consuming and costly to change a website.

All too often, even independent escorts do not put their ages in the online information about themselves. Even if they don't want to put their actual ages, how about their fake ages, an age range, or something that gives at least a clue? When no age is either specified or implied, that's often one of my first questions when I make contact with them.

Along the same lines of reading every word, I like to look at every photo she's posted. One can glean a lot of information from photos, each of them is worth a thousand words. More photos multiple the number of words they portray. An example of pictures providing good information would be your pierced nipples. Regardless of you spelling it out in writing that you have them pierced, one or more pictures showing the same thing can be helpful to both potential clients who like that and to potential clients who do not like that. Just like the escort having to say, "didn't you read my website?" she can also say, "didn't you look at my pictures?"

Reading websites, reading ads, and looking at photos also helps potential clients in filtering out the bait-and-switch, the rip-offs, the GPS, etc. When I contact a woman and what she texts/says doesn't match up with the online persona, red flags. "I just have to arrange for someone to watch my kids before I can head out to your hotel," "Hold on; your website says you've never had any children, now you have plural children?????"

I admit, however, that even I have failed to stick to knowing all of an escort's most updated information and contacted her without knowing something has changed. I have A LOT of women saved on my P4P "To Do List", and more get added all the time. Some of them have been there as long as a year or as short as a week. Often when scrolling through my list to see who's next on my hit parade, I'll check for her current website(s) and/or ad(s) and find nothing, zero, zilch, nada. If I contact her based on the old information I saved originally, she might have changed her name, created a new website or as that I know nothing about, moved, changed her menu, changed her rates, changed her photos, etc.

I have also had the experience of misreading or misunderstanding something in her website or ad, and when I contact her to find out if we are going to see each other, that confusion comes out.  Sometimes it's my own fault, sometimes websites and ads are poorly written.

Overall, you've brought up a good topic, and I'm glad it came from an escort (I'm not too partial to the term "provider") instead of a client, a guy. You have presented the perspective from your side of the equation, and I hope it sparks a lot of good and useful input as the thread builds. Thanks, chloe.

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Wow I didn't think about the text, you're right. Too many colors going. I'll definitely redesign it, thanks for the feedback!!

If you triple-space at the end of the paragraph, it will display a break between paragraphs.  This makes your longer posts MUCH easier to read.  A lot of members see a wall of text like this and just pass on reading it.  Just a suggestion based on comments made over the years about long posts.  

I use periods on lines I want blank rather than double spaces.  I am not sure double spaces are consistently handled in all browsers.
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Just curious, if you see another provider do you get a courtesy rate? How do ladies deal with this?

I don't know I haven't been brave enough to ask. I imagine it's probably the same for her time regardless.

Most guys aren’t going to read. They’re just going to contact us. It’s up to us to educate them when they do about whatever facts they’re missing.

That being said, if you reach out with one of the following:

Hey
Freya
How much
Available  

I won’t reply at all to something like that. I expect somebody to at least briefly say who they are and what they want!

the more common grievances most providers have: potential client's inability or unwillingness to read. Trust me, I get it. There are moments when I get a bit cheeky and will respond with a dad joke like "Hey is for horses" or "Reading is fundamental", etc. but honestly that's wasting my own time.  

 
Almost any small business is going to run into this: clients and potential clients not reading. In addition, when you take into account the average human's attention span, it's not surprising that people fail to read websites in their entirety. It's one of the reasons that people suggest ad copy for every page of a website and an e-newsletter never be more than 300 to 400 words. Realistically, it's all our brain is willing to sit still for.  

 
There are a couple options. Have you considered hiring an assistant to handle your emails? If not, do you have an "general inquiry"/ "advertisement" only email with an auto responder and a personal email? That made a world of difference for me. Yes - it may turn some potential clients off because it feels "too business like" but remember, the right clients will not be turned off by you handling your business professionally. This is your business and you are allowed to make decisions that save you time. If they follow the directions in your template/auto-responder they'll get to your actual email that you manage daily. I still check my "general inquiry" email every other day. just to keep an eye on things but it's saved a ton of time and weeded out a lot of time-wasters.

Completely agree. I've gotten lazy emails like Hey you free now. It's comical 😁

....if she has to hunt around and pick thru it looking for an indication if that provider sees solo women clients. Yours included. You mention liking 3somes but no mention of women-friendly. Just sayin.

If I am interested in seeing a lady I want to find out as much about her as possible. Maybe I'm a rarity but I read every page and every word on that lady's website.
And, of course, I like to look at the pictures too, lol  

When setting up a date if you communicate details that are found on the provider's website AND compliment her on the website layout, photos, etc. you'll make a GREAT first impression! (Believe me those things get noticed and you'll have her excited to meet you!! Seems like such a simple thing but it's truly a head scratcher why a lot of guys don't make ANY effort to make themselves look like a classy, quality client right from the start!)

Are you sure they weren’t trying to negotiate price? 🧐🧐🧐

Obviously I'm women friendly if I'm into thresomes with women lol. Plus it says on my site that I date both men and women.

I've questioned enough providers over the years to learn that that just because she will see a couple or do a 3some with another provider does not guarantee that she will see a solo woman client. I've also chatted with some providers that are in a personal relationship with another women and wont see women clients because of it. Bottom line - for me, unless it's stated clearly somewhere on her website that she sees women, it warrants either asking her or passing on her. Welcome to my world, lol

I believe there is a bi provider in a local forum here who doesn't see ladies because she lives with another woman.  

You might think so if you read that as one message.  Those were four separate examples of texts that I get.  

Hi.

Hey.

Rates?

Freya?

I get one and two word messages all the time like that. I don’t reply to them.

I’m pretty sure you are the person who said something like this  to me previously.  My reply to you now is the same as it was then. In 10+ years I have had one single woman ask to see me Who actually follow through with the appointment.  ONE!  Since 2009.  

So instead of finding fault with ALL OF US, Instead of feeling like we are not making ourselves available to you, or being sensitive to your group, maybe it would be more realistic for you to just realize that nobody ever asks us for that, like nobody. It doesn’t mean you’re not welcome.  

I’m trying to think of something equally as rare to make a comparison with. How about someone who likes to see a girl sit on balloons and pop them with her bottom?  OK that’s a real thing for some people. I’ve been asked to do that about seven times more often than I’ve been asked to see a single woman. But it doesn’t really make sense for me to build an ad around that when it’s such a minority group.  

I agreed with what the other person said, that if we say we do doubles and we see couples then you should feel reasonably comfortable reaching out about a one on one session. Instead of trying to change all of us, maybe it’s time for you to adapt to the system. There’s a reason why it is the way it is and it’s not because you’re not welcome.

Wow. I'm not trying to dramatically CHANGE any provider. I'm asking to consider adding a blip in their FAQ section to address if they see solo women. Many do address that already and those are the ladies that I will see. Most list that they will or won't see couples....will it kill them to add a line that addresses solo women as well? If they are willing to, great. If not then I move on. Sounds like you're the one making a mountain out of a molehill. But you do you and I'll do me, k?

Wow I didn't realize this was a thing, thanks for bringing it up! It would be my absolute dream to have a solo date with woman so I'll put that on my site asap 😊

I bought a professional template and spent time customizing it. Now I have a much more professional looking site! Thanks for the advice 😊

I usually don't read a ladies site.  And probably like 95% of the ladies don't read my P411 profile when I send an appointment request.  It works both ways.

an infomercial on PBS or WNET?

I do read P411 profiles. And if it isn't filled out, I'll either a) ask them to fill it out/update it or b) ask them some of the basic questions from the P411 profile to find out a bit more about likes and needs.  

 
regardless, what I've come to realize is if reading were the cure all, most people would be dead...

40 emails back & fort regardless if you have a professional website, or not. I deactivated my site because I do not hobby enough to justify the cot when the majority of men do not bother to read your site. I only need 1 smart man who sends the booking details needed & a deposit. Covid did not help adult entertainers.

Is NUTS. On one hand a provider is willing to add a single sentence line on her site catering to a minority group. On the other hand, a provider writes four paragraphs to explain why they're unwilling to add a single sentence for seeing a minority group they claim are welcome.  

 
It makes me question the sincerity of Freyas "welcomeness" when she put more effort into writing why she doesn't add a sentence to her site then writing the sentence itself.  In Freyas site she has a "I have no age or racial preferences." So it's not even a single sentence, it's a single word, "gender! “  Freya clearly didn't read lopaws post where she CLEARLY states,

 
"I've questioned enough providers over the years to learn that that just because she will see a couple or do a 3some with another provider does not guarantee that she will see a solo woman client. I've also chatted with some providers that are in a personal relationship with another women and wont see women clients because of it"

Good lord you woke-tards never rest.

Looks like we found Freyas simp/wk!

I just noticed she doesn't mention servicing club-footed Elbonians! How are club-footed Elbonians to react to such a snub?  Why the secret hate for club-footed Elbonians?  She's showing unstated discrimination by ignoring the needs of club-footed Elbonians.  For shame!

Oh those poor club-footed Elbonians! It's so nice of you to acknowledge them and worry about their potential inability to score a welcoming provider! But not to worry.....they don't need to waste too much time here. All they need to do is check out P411, which is a great site for the fringe Jane/John's of the mongering world. And again - thanks for your undying concern for those poor gimpy Dilbertians. I'm sure it means the world to them!

Ignore that clown about your site.  You're sooo hot.  Visit Vegas  I love pierced nipples.

Thank you! 😁 I've never been to Vegas but I'll have to tour there some time this year.

Apparently YOU didn't read her site PRIOR to her recently changing it because it WAS very hard to read. It’s MUCH better now.

Kudos to her for taking constructive criticism and applying it to her benefit instead of getting pissed off about it.

Why one has to resort to name calling just because someone has a different opinion on something always puzzles me. Guess different levels of maturity exists here even though we're all supposed to be adults.

Was that rude?  I’m sorry if that sounded mean.  I honestly didn’t mean for it to be. I was trying to say that just because we don’t specifically mention your group does not mean you’re not welcome. I think it’s far less common than you might realize.  And THATS why people aren’t mentioning it, not because you’re not welcome.  Maybe that’s all I needed to say.

But it probably takes courage to represent and try to get recognition for your group publicly. I respect that.  FYI, I already put the single women are welcome on my website the last time we talked about this in support of YOU.  It’s been there for years and I did it just for you. It’s on my entertainment page right at the top and it has been there.  And in all of this time I have not been contacted by a single woman.

I tend to over explain everything.  Writing four paragraphs about that doesn’t mean that I feel particularly strongly about it.

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What does that mean?  Simp/wk?

Apparently I DIDN'T.  But I also just don't give a fuck so it works out.

I do agree that men do not read the Provider's Site/Profile so that they can see what the Provider provides.  And Provider must put everything in their profile.

I think you did a great job on updating the site.  The "Naughty Activities" section is particularly helpful.  As a Web programmer by profession, I have these optional tips:

- Apropos to this post, maybe add a "blurb" above your email address/phone number stating:  "I've tried to answer many of your questions here.  Please do me the honor of reviewing my site.  If you're ready to meet me, please use my booking form.  If questions remain, feel free to contact me."  Or, something like that.

- The white font over the peach(?) background is a little hard to read.  I'm sure you can find another good color that will provide better contrast.  The "chocolate" color font for example.  Or, the red.

Thank you for the advice!! I really appreciate it 😊