I was sent a text a 4 days ago from a provider saying that her and her teen step brother were kicked out of the hotel room they were staying in and her vehicle was at the repair shop, and because she had no appointments, she was crying, hungry and would be sleeping on the street. She had told me that none of her "friends" would help her or even reply back to her, I told her I would go pick the two of them up and bring them back to my 2 BR condo and I would even buy a pizza for them, but in return, I would like to have a session with her for barter. Well, I picked them up and they put there bags in my trunk and I drove to my place, both of them sat in the back and she then wanted me to buy her some cigs because she was so "upset". When we reached my place, they unloaded their things and wanted to wash 2 loads of clothes and eat, I ate one peice of pizza as did she while her brother ate the rest and wanted more, so I  fixed him some pasta. He drank 6 cans of soda and two bottles of water in one night, they finally went to sleep and refused to get up in the morning as I had to watch tv in my bedroom while they slept, she said that she will become "angry" if I wake her up before she wants to get up. They both finally got up and went into my kitchen and ate all my breakfast that was proportioned for me the rest of the week! I had to clean up the dishes as they wanted to go back to sleep, so they went to my bedroom and both fell asleep on my king size bed. Four hours later, they get up and she calls a guy that has seen her and he agrees to meet, so she takes a shower and all, then wants me to drive her to where her car is being repaired so he can pay for it and she said she will get some money to give to her step brother so he will leave and I can finally get my "barter" session. They come back with her vehicle and she says she has no extra money, but enough to buy more cigs and alcohol for her. They both eat more of my food and she calls another client and he wants to see her so she changes her clothes and I got to see her in her panties whoopie), then she leaves with her brother and told me she will come back after she has some money for a hotel room so her brother can stay there, this was a few days ago and well, I still have all their clothes and personal items and she has not called or showed up to come get them. Now, I am thinking about taking the clothes to Goodwill and taking her bags to a local dumpster.

Because this kind of tale has been told so often on these boards some people are tired of hearing it.  All I'll say is I'm sorry you got burned trying to do something nice for people who are clearly dysfunctional users.  It's easy to say, "I'd never do that."  But I've never been in that position, and the girls I see are very good business women who would never get themselves into the kind of fix you describe.  Sorry you got screwed.  My guess is, she'll be back to get her clothes.  Just make sure you don't give them to her without first getting your accounts with her settled.

But I would say be careful about getting rid of her stuff.  She obviously knows EXACTLY WHERE YOU LIVE and probably more that could be damaging.  With her knowing that, she can make your life a living hell and maybe do some real damage like burning down your house, etc.  I'm not saying you should expect this, but you never know what desperate and angry people will do.  I would have all the provider's possessions neatly together and ready for a quick handoff or delivery.  Then, my advice to you (from inexperienced hobbyist) is to forget her number and limit your contact with her to ZERO.  I don't think I am out of line with this approach, but you have opened yourself up to endless possibilities for HELL.  Good luck with it and I hope you are able to get her things to her, wish her the best and say goodbye.

Your lucky they didn't rob you blind.

Not going to flame you Eddie, but I will say that I have gotten involved with a number of girls outside the normal business relationship, and I have helped out quite a few. I have never been burned. In my opinion, you cannot be taken advantage of unless you allow yourself to be taken advantage of (he says, adding a clause to avoid being accused of dangling a participle).

Reading your reviews, I respectfully suggest that getting involved with a lot of backpage and uber low-priced providers, especially those with no reviews, or a couple of bad ones, puts you at risk for problems. Getting further involved, inviting them into your home, and taking care of their family does not make you a nice guy, I'm sorry to say... it makes you a dope.

PS - in keeping with the quality of the situation, lock up her stuff in a closet somewhere, keep it for several months at least. If she does want the stuff back, make sure you get a blowjob up front. In fact, if she wants the stuff bad enough, fuck her in the ass. Merry Christmas!

ROFLMFAO..... really? really? rookie mistake, but seriously didn't you sense the scam coming on almost immediately?

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and put it somewhere in the house where you'll see it often.

I have a "gold Omega" watch that I paid $50 for at a highway stop in Italy from a "smuggler".

It ran fine for about 15 minutes or so.

I keep that watch on my bureau now.

It's paid off immensely over the years as a reminder.

All I do is pay for sex and have a good time.  No drama, no loans, no sob stories.  I've asked this in one thread already this week but I'm scratching my head and wondering where you guys find these drama queens...

Read his reviews; you think he's seen a half-dozen sketchy providers just to set up one crazy story?

LOL

You tracked how much pizza & soda two hungry people ate? You showed no generosity because you were expecting/requested to get paid with a date but your kindness is underwhelming, to say the least.

Should've just given her cash for a room for another night.  Geeze...sorry dude.

I had something like this happen years ago (wasn't a provider, but a similar story).  First it was just a ride request....then we we got to the destination, it was, "well, I don't have any money and don't have anywhere to go."

By that time, you've talked with the person a while, it's more difficult to just "dump them on the curb" if you have any sort of a heart.  

I ended up paying for a hotel for her for a couple of days (along with a few meals).  Lesson learned.  If you don't want to risk getting into these types of pickles, it's best just to say "no" from the get go.  It's not easy for me because I know there are people out there who run into bad luck.  

One thing I can say is that I did tell her "absolutely not" when she asked if I would buy her some cigarettes.  

Lemme guess...cheap rate, backpage? You should have simply said, you could not help her out. If she can't make enough money doing this, she needs to get a real job. What is she doing with her money I wonder....buying cigs and alcohol? Yea right...more like crack. To top it off, she is bringing MINOR family members in front of clients? Boy, you sure can pick em. You're lucky that is all you lost was your nut.

Here's a hint of where she might be...in fkin jail for tagging along a damn kid whilst she is out turning tricks. Damn....stupid hooktards I swear! No wonder so many guys assume we are all dumb as shit...because many certainly are! It boggles my mind how someone can screw up something as easy as spreading their damn legs, but here we go again lol. Being a provider seems to be the only job that is forgiving when one only has half a damn brain.

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I think he's already got those settled.  She and the "kid" finally left.

Do you suppose they'll all get together on Christmas and exchange gifts?

Yea, you really want some moron like this running around with a cell phone that has a list of the guys she sees? Gosh...some need to think with their brains vs. their pocket books, because it is always the same damn story. I wonder if that cheap rate, REALLY saved him anything lol.

Just say no. I could think of a number of reasons why. What if it was a scam by the cops to get u in the trap. There was a provider i saw a few times last year. $$ range and seemed to have her shit together. Actually drove her to run some errands. Well i get a call(the last time i heard or seen of her). Telling a story of how she was wrongfully arrested and could i give her a hand. Apparently she was out of jail but because of fines and such she was broke. I told her i was sorry but was not able to assis ther in any way. Now, i could think of so many ways how this could go wrong. Especialy when the majority of my visits have been with bp.

"wondering where you guys find these drama queens... "
Ding!  And the answer is: on Backpage.
PS: This is no slam on everyone who advertises there.  Only on those who see BP girls with no site or other presence on the web.  There's no way to do your homework and you get results like this.

You should not sustain Atkins as a permanent way of eating and the danger of going on something is the going off that very same thing. Carb cycling is awesome....if you're interested, email me.

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The reason I am EXTRA bitchy is I can't drink on it...AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! I can lose 20 lbs in less than a month on Atkins, and once I get past this first week of bs, I feel great!! Now I know why people smoke crack to lose weight..seems so much easier bwahahaha.

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You can always keep the weight. There is a market for chubbers. LOL

happened to me as well, well, almost.  Gal calls me and asks me to buy her a corset so she can hide the pregnancy... so I do, nuttin... Months go by.  Then I get a call to help her "move" so I just assume it would be a standard move and she wants muscle... I go, turns out, she has no place to move "to"!  so I foot the bill for a hotel room for her and her dog... no biggie, but nothing for me.  She promises to pay me back... she disappears again, I get a call from a stripclub.... at 2 in the morning... telling me she passed out, and I was the only # in her phone!  Can I come get her, I refuse.  see her in the club a couple of months later, she acts like she doesn't know me!  Yikes...

dude, we are the lucky ones... be thankful she didn't drug and rob you, Like we would be stupid enough  to have that happen  to us! Oops....    that did happen to me....

shake it off....  kinda like getting sacked if you're Michael Vick, ya gotta shake it off.... oh, wait a minute, another Andy Reid Career Destroyer move..... none the less, shake it off, walk on it, it'll be ok!

You line up a half dozen doughnuts on the front of your stationary bicycle;

every time you reach a plateau, you eat a doughnut!

Sure hope not though!!

But not everyone here has a sense of humor  

If he Was really a pimp that you took to your private residence! Not safe or kool!

Why didn't just make it a paid session as opposed to barter, I don't know, but that seems to be the logical solution to me.

If a girl needs money, then either have a session with her or give it to her, no strings attached.

I gave two providers each $200 because both were down in the dumps.  I didn't ask anything in return, and I don't.  Either do it the way I did it, or have a session.

SUCKER!!!!

Or a wish sandwich?

(Sorry for the ad, but you can skip it after 5 seconds at least.)

I left out the donuts...damn!!!!

on the low days and I look at cardboard and drool. Do you find the weight loss hard to maintain after getting back into carbs?

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Atkins is great. it ultomately makes u aware of the carbs that u eat. now i dont eat all the fries, or mashed/backed potato. its a process. 1 week of 0 carbs and 2 weeks of 30 carbs. ultimatel getting u to less then 100 daily. Anyway the drugged got me thinking.When i was single and overseas i figured i pick up a cheap provider and rent a room. Figured i would get in less trouble then drinking. Got to the room and she left for a bit. I figure I would hide my valuables so if something happed I would get robbed. Everything in seperate places. She came back and we started to dfk. She must have had something in her mouth because thats all I remember. Woke up the next morning at 9 am. With all valuables gone. Again I was young and dumb and full of cum. Still. I was able to absorb that mess. With a SO now, I doubt it.

I will gladly pay $300, $400, $500+ an hour to be sure I get with a girl who is trying to pay for school or LV bags (or simply make $$$) vs. buying crack LOL. I won't lie the pics from Backpage make "mini me" stand up but I stay strong!

Must you always link a bowdlerized version of songs?

Getting rid of her items after 4 days might feel good NOW but it might cause problems in the future. Creating future problems means you will have to deal with her more, and she will not be a "happy camper"!!

Inventory her items, take pictures as you go along, box every thing up, seal and date the box, store the box someplace safe.

Whew!!!

You escaped that one alive; nothing got stolen?

Now ask yourself, do you want to have anything to do with someone who lives like that? A con artist, irresponsible, self-centered, willing to use you for her gain.

Is she safe? Count on her being clean? Is she disease free? Addicted to anything other than tobacco?

the cost of a pizza($10.), 6cans of coke ($1.50), 2 bottles of water ($2.00), hmmm a week's worth of breakfast: eggs, bacon,potatoes,bread (??? $9.00), Has left you with so much negativity that
you actually feel scammed for feeding a homeless female who is dealing with the scary responsibility of raising her teenage brother (oviosly she doesn't have family) & Now you want to hurt her more by giving her cloths to Goodwill cuz you feel she owes you a session (cost is ???) Oh & you did alow her to sleep in your 2br condo. She did say she wud come back when she has the money for a room which she probably still doesn't if all the people that she knows are helping her the way you did....
What it looks like to me, is you saw a way to take advantage & scam a free session out of someone in a desperate situation, & it backfired, she decided if you were insisting on a session that she wud get enough to where she felt the exchange was even (she probably was scared that as soon as u got your session u wud have booted her out without even alowing them to sleep there)Maybe she felt instead of lettin u scam her out of a free session that she wud scam you instead & just get what all she cud. But to me it doesn't sound like she got much & honestly I don't feel she tried to scam you by letting her brother eat & drink your stuff. & she needed to go meet other guys so she cud get her car so that she cud get herself out of your home.... Seriously what was she suppose to do? Eat the pizza, giv u the session, then immediately in the morning tell her brother sorry go hungry, the pizza is all we are alowed to eat, then take her stuff & go sit out on the corner for hours until someone was ready to do a session? It is xmas time & everyone is spending their money on gifts & they're shopping with their family, the guys just dnt hav the time or opportunities to get away right now on their regular schedules....
If you hadn't bartered the session, I would think that when you let her sleep at your place that she would have felt grateful & crawled into bed with you & given you a BIG goodnight kiss & then again made sure you started your day off right.....
I don't condone disrespectful behavior or using anyone, but it honestly doesn't sound like she was trying to scam you or take advantage of you, she was desperate an she needed help & thought you would be kind & help her out But to actually help someone who has become homeless, one night in your home in exchange for a session & some food to eat, does nothing to actually help.....
You could have just bartered to get a cheap session for the cost of the room & then tipped her enough to get some food for her brother to eat, that would have actually helped, as she could have spent the rest of the day availible to work & gotten money for the next day...
It's hard to find a job when your homeless.....Guys think girls out here are making so much money (& I noticed accusing her of crack was mentioned), do you ever think about the fact that getting hotel rooms nightly for a month is double & triple of what you pay for your mortgage (are you smoking crack?). If she had an apt. she cud probably get herself back on her feet with the comfort of going to sleep knowing that she doesn't have to wake up & immediately start husseling hoping a call comes in (with so much compettition out there & then the fake girls who really do scam & rip guys off always advertising such low prices that the guys end up going there or trying to talk everyone else into offering the same price as the girls who r goin to run off with your donation or give a rushed shorted mechanical session)  & everyone nowadays seem to call for a right now session that you can't go do anything or u might miss their call & if they have to wait more than 15mins forget it you've lost that session, so you end up spending your day just waiting around as many tell you they are on their way & then don't show up, even after you've spent your last dollar getting the room because they've made the appt....
I'm a proffessional but I'm low volume cuz I have other things I have to attend to each day & I turn down alot of appts. because I won't reduce my services to the same price as the girls who are mechanical or short the hour (& sadly a few of my regs have learned what happens when they trust that lower price special)....so I can understand this girls situation to run out of money & it isn't fun & I don't smoke crack......
I'm sure my opinions on this probably wasn't welcomed, I myself have always gotten bitten in some way wenever I've helped someone, so often that I actually tell myself do not help anyone, but I always do wenever I can & then I get burned AGAIN, EVERYTIME....
But my point.....I know so many professional men & women with good jobs, nice homes who look like they have the perfect life with their wonderful family.....but we all have problems, they've gotten behind on their mortgage, they've had bills pill up from going out shopping & to fancy dinners everynight, they've had their car break down then oooooops they've lost a job, they've had custody battles (that mentally drain them) & alimony payments causing them to live paycheck to paycheck, one step from being out on the street......and well ummmm, they've had family to call up & get help so that they can get their car fixed & look for another job & get their mortgage paid before they end up out on the street.......
I hear stories all the time where a rich guy's car breaks down & he's got a buddy who just gives him a car or they go to a mechanic who actually fixes it, whereas us as females, we literally get dicked around & our cars don't ever get fixed....
As escorts, no one will help us when we have a problem (just like normal ppl), cuz they feel even tho we are giving them sessions in return that we are still scamming them????????
Although in above situation she didn't do as she said she would, but she left her stuff there so he knows she's coming back, she didn't didn't just take what she cud & run off to not ever see him again......
I apologize for rambling on with my opinions this evening, but it really disqusted me to hear that someone had a child in their home (a teenage boy is still a child needing an adult to supervise & teach him) & to hear a man is upset that a starving growing homeless child ate food while in his home because he didn't get his session......That's abuse!!!! It's bad enough what this child is seeing  (because they learn wat they see & grow up behaving frm wat they experience) he is an impressionable teenager & any adults around he is looking up to for guidance & character building, (not to mention probably crying inside wondering why someone wont give him a home or help him, he's a child) so daily he is learning do not feed the women & children unless you are getting sessions from them!!!!!!!!
And I cry because I know this is the real life that tooooooooooo many suffer!!!!!!

This girl is not a backpage provider, she is on p411 and had been one of the most expensive donation rates per hour, with outstanding reviews, but has dropped her rates by almost $100. I have read on another review board that she had taken advantage of a couple of other guys, and when I asked her about it, she said they "did not pass her screening", but she took advantage of their generousity, promising a barter session in return. I know I should have know better and all of her supposed "friends" would not help her, ( I can see why), so, thinking with my little head, I took them in for a night and they ate all my food, drank all my drinks, washed their clothes and made a mess of my place with their trashy selfs. I received a message from her stating that she would like me to bring her stuff to her as she has no money for gas to come get it, I told her that as soon as she does her promised session with me, she can leave with her stuff. She told me that she was going to cal the cops as I "stole" her things and report me for solicitation, then said she would get someone else to pick her stuff up for her, (probably another sucker for her promises).

You sure do ASSUME alot, and most of those assumptions are that all providers are victims and hobbyists are guys that have money, (not that they deserve it) and should help anyone out, not matter who they are just because. She told me she would do a free session for letting her and her brother stay the night, and I did, they ate the food, drank the drinks, I had to wash the dishes, they washed their clothes, which I folded up since they wanted to sleep, smoked cigs on my porch and left their cig butts there for me to clean up and she had me take her to her next appointment session, I think you need to recalculate those figures as far as the money goes. She left her stuff and then two days later wanted me to take her stuff to her as she does not have the gas to come get it. Even if the calculations that you make do not add up to an hour session, she took full advantage and not even a "thank you" but that she was going to call the police and report me that I stole her things if I did not return them. Who is the one that got the short end of the stick here, the provider or me?

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I mean if she did it would not exactly be a good one considering the last part of the conversation. Do you really want this to drag out and get nasty, because it seems it is heading that way.

It really sucks that someone took advantage of you, but these people don't have a conscience and don't give a crap. I would give her back her stuff and leave her alone...meaning not answer any more of her calls if she goes there. Some people are just leaches and I think you met one...so sorry.

I appreciate the advice, I have deleted her from my p411 favs and my hobby phone, yes she knows where I live, but it is a rent house and all the contents are insured.

No, I would have liked to have had more than one peice of pizza, especially since I bought it, not to mention, they read my refrigerator and eat my snacks and drink my drinks.

have a damn ZERO rating, yet you expect us to believe you see well reviewed providers ha ha. Ok.

You bring up many important questions that one probably ought to know about any provider if you see them regularly, especially if you're having them do outcalls and overnighters at your place. Some here on the boards advocate reverse screening and Googling their provider to see just who the heck you're dealing with. Its a great idea in theory but, unfortunately,  we know that most providers don't /won't share THEIR personal information with us. You're lucky if, over time, the lady may share her real name with you. But it is so much more important than you might ever imagine! Earlier this year, I was regularly seeing one such provider - a sweet, innocent-looking, cute, and petite lady -  to whom I was foolishly growing quite fond of and getting emotionally attached. She shared her personal info with me and I searched on her. I was shocked: the gal was severely bipolar (which explained her erratic behavior and responses) and she had a string of felony convictions (for a variety of things but not for axe murder of her lovers, thank goodness!). There were also numeroys indicators hinting at some level of drug involvement. You would NEVER know and NEVER even think that to look at her! Now, we may not expect to find girls in the hobby worthy of bringing home to mom and meeting the family prior to marrying them, and of course we all have made some mistakes or have some health issues, but past a certain point you may be endangering yourself in potentially much worse ways than you might ever have imagined by hanging out with some people in the biz/lifestyle/hobby. And, ladies, that is also so very true for you. So many of you need to be screening to find out more than just if your next client is not LE. Perhaps it can be difficult to do for first time clients. But you should definitely do so for clients you're repeating with as well as for outcalls.

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don't get rid of the stuff.  she knows where you live so it could go bad if you get rid of the stuff.  you are lucky she did not rob or kill you when you were sleeping.

If you value your privacy and place, don't let them crash there.

I had a provider who ask for bail money. I let her borrow money. I've given her full donation every time I see her and even bought her food.  Then, one day, she ask that I see her since she needed the money.  I met her at a parking lot and gave her cash so she could pay the room.  She fled and took off.  I've seen her about 4 times and thought I'd trust her after I let her borrow money for her bail.   At any rate, she went to jail for 1.5 years as a felon, and for trying to swindle a big store.

I have many stories of providers who have stolen money from me - all I did was give them kindness.  They've all gone out of business.

On the positive side, there are also providers who have good character and who I trust wholeheartedly.

That would be awesome to have someone help me out like that however I'd never move in.
but to do  like she just did to you is unthinkable. Toss that shit in the fire!