dont want to give out info...dont see what the point is...

tomorrow April 14th marks the 4th year since the senseless death of Julissa Brisman
Murdered by the Craigslist Killer at the Boston Marriot in Copley Square.
She died in a pool of her own blood, alone.
Next week she would have been turning 29.

This is why we screen. She didn't.

Rest in Peace Sweetheart.

Thanks for the reminder for those providers who don't screen,,This effects us all!

You either got to be kidding or you've simply chosen to ignore all the BSC providers who appear normal until crossed. There are thousands of stories of providers who have misused personal information for the smallest perceived slights, everything from bad, but truthful reviews to NCNS, to the least little thing that might set a woman off, and this from "well reviewed" providers on this very site.

Any guy who is sending out his wikipedia file as a form of screening either feels he has nothing to lose, or is playing fast and loose with his life and needs a swift kick in the head from his mongering brothers.

There is a third choice that you so conveniently overlook, simply move to the next lady of your choice who's screening is not so invasive.

Disclaimer here, Personally I don't mind sharing my personal info, but I am "black mail proof" I am happily divorced, own my own company and don't give a fuck who knows that I frequent prostitutes. If getting "outed" made the least bit of impact on my "real" life, there would be no way in hell that I would jump through the hoops that some of you hookers make guys jump through. Actually I still don't jump through hoops, but not because I am afraid of what some vengeful hooker is going to do with my personal info.

the 14th of April is the day Julissa lost her life.
she did not screen
Its not a wake up call or a lesson its a fact.

just remember her on this day. thats the only message I ask of you here. its a sad day indeed.

Nicole

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her safety.  All hobbyists were new at one time or another.  When new, the screening requirements might seem demanding.  If a guy doesn't want to give "x" to a lady for verification, then he can either move on to another lady who wants less info or he can take is ball and go home.  

and see your  heart is pure???

As I said, I don't have a problem with it, as I am "black mail proof" but a married guy? or a guy that being exposed would impact a public or sensitive job? Not on your life. I would never put my entire life in the hands of a woman I had never met, just to get a little strange.

I know you don't believe in the "search message" feature here, but there are countless stories on this very board about "well reviewed" providers who have acted vengefully at the smallest perceived slight, and have made their former client's lives a living hell. Rare or not, it happens. So just how is a man supposed to know that you won't turn BSC someday?

this is why i try to get white listed.  i have found that white listing lets ladies know i am safe and trustworthy, and i don't have to give out my personal info so often.

Hence your BSC track record hasn't been established...and hopefully never will be.  But as Gambler commented above there are many many public stories of seemingly great gals going BSC for a myriad of reasons without warning.  The behind the scenes stories are significantly higher than any of the public comments, hence this is more common than you might want to believe.

There are providers who can't be trusted and clients who can't.

Amen, Nicole . . . A lovely young lady was lost to this world . . . The rest of this conversation is just noise.

There has to be a balance, but women with invasive screening tend to claim it's the "only way" and there are plenty of spineless men who agree with them without regard to their own safety.

I will grant you that there is a happy middle ground somewhere, but it's a moving goalpost, what's good for one person is not necessarily good for someone else.

I will disagree with your typical "more men have gone wacko that the established women have" your very syntax reveals your bias. How about the statement "more women have gone wacko then the ESTABLISHED men"??? Same basic question, but different bias. Don't claim to be even handed when your very words bely your objectivity.

Lets just agree that there are wackos on both sides. Men should expect to be screened, but should draw their own line where they consider the screening to be invasive or contrary to their own interests. How's that for a fair assessment?

Plenty of ways for a gal to "verify" if some john is safe and sane.  She NEVER needs his personal info to get that either.

and that maybe your short (four months) worth of history here might not be that confidence inspiring for a guy with a thirty year old marriage or a seven digit career to worry about?

You've been here a short four months, some of us have been doing this for decades. I've personally been around pay for pay for years before there was even an internet, and some have been around even longer than me.

Being cautious is one thing, but making statements that a guy sent you his wikipedia link to you after you convinced him he had nothing to fear only shows his naivety, not your credentials. No one  has a track record worth a dime after four short months. I've been on this board for ten years, come back to me in about five and then you can tell me how much you know. In the meantime there have been thousands before you who were just like you when they first got here, anxious to tell everyone how smart and different they were. Lets face it, there just isn't that much original thought left out there. So far you haven't added anything new.

Especially the ones that already know everything about this business after being in it for all of an hour and a half.

I don't think she realizes that this is us being nice, some of the BSC know it all hookders that have come on this board in the past have gotten a lot harsher reception to their know it all attitudes than she has gotten here from us.

I am trying to be a LITTLE BIT nicer on purpose, I don't know what's your excuse, why are you being so fucking polite today??? lol

Finished up what I needed to finish...filed extensions so that's out of the way.

I've been a couch potato today. I've been watching baseball and golf.

Today is the first day of Thai new years though, I am out of here in an hour or so to take a Thai friend out for dinner and sex.  Well out for dinner, and in for sex. lol

I like celebrating every culture's holiday's I get one day of partying for American New Years, three days for Chinese New Years, and three more days starting today for Thai New Years. Add in all the other American holidays, a few Jewish ones and fuck I don't have to work for the rest of the year.

Taylor MIGHT learn, she is a bit full of herself still, and she is an old dog trying to learn new tricks, so the odds are stacked a bit against her, but I will give her credit for trying.

A lot of women have hurt clients over the years, destroyed their livelihoods, etc. I don't blame anyone for being leery about their information floating around this industry. Its a two way street. If a gentleman has a problem with my screening process, he has the option to seek out someone else.  

I have my own way to screen my visitors...  But yes I do require first name last initial and phone number and a reference.  
I have a hard time if they do not have a reference and do not understand the importance of this.
From my experience from the begining to now things have so changed.
Back in the day, if you asked this information hobbyists wouldnt hesitate to offer the information needed if  they wanted to schedule a meeting..  Since I have come out of retirement things are way different and I am adjusting....as quick as I can.. Although I am a creature of habit.. I like the old days...

Like GG said, I simply move on to the next lady who will see me without the equivalent of an FBI background check. There are simply too many of you for me to give a shit about a couple ladies who won't see me because I won't tell them everything about my life.

try watching the news. this is not about screening. it is about a girl who died servicing a fucking john, so try having some respect. you are also out of your mind to thnk that a guy who just handed over his full name, place of employment, etc. is just as likely to pull this shit, as someone who hands over a fucking TER handle. that's why so many women require info regardless of how many refs you have. those girls rarely get into trouble.  

But, given the line of reasoning you’ve offered here, and your inability to manage a full sentence, grammar or spelling, you seem well qualified.  

then, don't hire providers! no one is forcing any of us to pay for ass! you take the fucking risks that go with cheating on your wife, or not. don't bitch about men being hurt, when they sign up for that shit by coming here. providers don't. they are doing a job!

then again, it is the internet and we are all fucking CEOs right.